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THIS WEEK'S BROKEN HAVDALAH SPREAD OVER TWO NIGHTS - Tisha Bav Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner
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Shiur at the Morning Kollel at Bais Medrash Ohr Chaim
Categories:Torah/Yamim Tovim
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These are
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that gives a simmon when all the y of
the year of the year is going to fall
out
and that's based off pesar
says the days of pes
the first day of p
is tish b the second day of pes
like this year was Monday to Pes fell
out this year. famous year of pes.
So Pesak, the first day of Pesak was
Sunday. The same as tishov as well. Also
this year tishab falls out on a Sunday.
Something that's not not common. Tishab
could be on a Sunday. That happens a
lot. Meaning to say is if tishab is on a
shabas it gets pushed to Sunday. This
year that tishov is on a Sunday is not
common. I don't want to say the next
time in 20 years Mashiah's going to come
before but alapon tishb this year is on
a Sunday.
I would like to speak about in today's
shar
the changes that come about to have for
this matzah shabas
and let's begin with havdah on a regular
matzah shabas on a regular matzah shabas
every other month shabas of the year
every other matzah shabas we make two
halfdolls the by dingu
that'sd
And if a person forgets,
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he doesn't have to d over. Why? Because
he's still another.
If a person knows that he's not going to
be able to make,
he has to d over.
So one Abdullah is abdu
before we go to tish tomorrow night and
Sunday night first let's speak about a
regular shabas and then we'll see how to
apply it on a on a shabas of tishov
we'll see how that works. So there's one
in if you forget to say that
you don't d over. Then there's another
abdah
or is made out of four braas
and
the abd
that we make it out is
and that's The first if you're going to
make
you say the ofen
and as we're going to see in a minute
has its reasons not really connected the
todah has nothing has not nothing to do
withdah and really you can make thear
speaks about it if you do it separate or
it's in abdullah
Gabra says that we wanted it to be so we
put it into but really it has its own
reasons and it's important to speak
about it because we're going to see
the reason we smell bis either because
you say leaves
so to calm ourselves down
to relax so you smell bam or another
reason is because ganim the fires of
ganim start again and To counteract the
smell of the fires of G and we smell
Bam. Two reasons we smell Bam. Not
connected to the mitzvah of Abdullah.
Like the Gomorrah says was created. Mat
Shabas created the Huarish
came about to make the fire with the two
rocks happened. Mat Shabas. So therefore
we also shabas again really
and
doesn't have to be indal and if a person
didn't make
during he can make it later it's not
connected but
it was put in so it should be
really maybe it should be a heik you
make hagoffen in middle kdish if you
make hagoffen and then you make Bum in
the middle it's a heik
fordah it's not a heick because that's
they put it it should be they put it
into
says that you can even make if you
forget to make bim before
you can make bim after before you drink
the k but anyways that's how how they
mak
and then the garra says that we do both
why two abdas one ad is enough. The
Gmorra says that Abdullah was
then hi when Clius became poor and
couldn't make it alumar
says we do both. It's a gar we do both.
So that's Abdullah on a regular week. A
regular week. These two Abdulas, these
Abdullah al-Hak
and these also as we began these
Abdullah. And now let's move over to
Abdullah ondah
by Davening
there should be no difference and there
is no difference.
is
if a person forgets tomorrow night
you do not over
it's a
shabas you do not d over even though the
is that on a regular shabas if you
forget by ding and you're not going to
be making
you have to ding
over here. If you forget, you don't have
to dive over. Why? Because you're going
to be making as we'll get to
Sunday night.
So if a person tomorrow night forgets,
you don't have to dav over.
If you did forgetd
bying you should make sure to say
if after dvening before you want us to
do you want to get into your car you
want to appear for you should say of
course ladies if they didn't
it's like every say ladies so they'll
listen to so sometimes if they don't say
but on
if there will be No, they should say.
Now we'll go over to the
right. We said these two havedollas that
you make every month of Shabasda
andd
it's a regular. It's regular like every
month of Shabasd
as we said before is made out of four
parts
and
no why no because we're fasting. So you
can't make
because we're fasting.
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>> We're going to get to you. Very good. Do
you want to know if you could give it to
a cotton? Now in a case where you need
to make which we'll get to your gift but
that's not the time to make
just like what
not particularly for this but just like
you don't make and a cotton should drink
it is a yam you don't make kdish and
give it a cotton because
anyways you don't you don't make you
don't make abd
and is like this those two like we said
before you could really make it withoutd
furthermore
the only time to make bas
and is only shabas if for whatever
reason you didn't make
matzah shabas
and we'll get to it these
is only.
So
you make tishov by night
you do not you do not why not
because bum you smell to relax yourself
and tish is a so therefore you do not
smell bings
tokim
it's really the
the from the and the of the z
the says he's a
if not smelling bim is only
a shabas I'm sorry
because you're smelling b for the
purpose of to relax yourself that's why
you don't smell b or it's not to smell
bam the whole tishov
Is it only that we're not we don't smell
the if somebody wants to smell the
throughout could you or could you not
bring
but one thing is clear we don't make
clear the would be and the brings this
he's if he's a bris on
to make a boy.
Do you make bum as well by a bris on the
says
that you do not but is being
that you don't smell bum the whole
it's to be of speaking about bishov
to bring out a very important
between tishab and yipper
Even though they both may look the same
in the sense of both are in the
but they're bother
it looks relatively the same. It's
important to note that it's
it's completely different. We spoke
about it here at the morning
a year or two or three ago.
makeer
is a you're supposed to make
the English
is like the explains because the theme
of the day is to get closer to Hashem to
do chuva and therefore when a person
eats it's harder to connect he's feeding
his gashmies it's harder so therefore we
fast the is more to refrain from
connecting to gashmas. That's what it's
about.
You you're for sure allow to smell bam.
You may even be an Indian to smell
is a yam. You wear big shabas these
white tablecloths
is not like that. Defing
is to help us connect. It's a different
story. It's a different story. It's
important to note going into
it's different than the reason why we
have the gave us the it's for a person
to be able to connect
to the
good. It's a question about if
maybe only not but the idea of is to
connectis.
So what we have so far in in of a year
like this yeard
sayen
you do not say you do not say
you say you say
that's the time to make you say it as we
explained you can make even without and
you're not going to make it without
Abdullah.
If you don't make it tomorrow night,
important to note, if somebody forgot to
make it tomorrow night, you don't make
it anymore. It's only tomorrow night. If
somebody forgot to make it matzah shabas
when he's going to make matzah tishov
you don't make
>> oh where do you make when when do you
make the bo when when you're making so
you put it in abdullah if you're not
making when do you make
so the say the taz
brings the taz the says that You say it
before a
after before. Why before? Usually in a
regular month of Shabas you make
Abdullah when you come home. So maybe it
should be after
to end why before. So there's two
reasons. Reason number one
we say
in we say that the put us into the dark.
So
you say that the abisha put us in the
dark and then you go and you light a
candle you make it light.
What kind of shot does it have to
you said should put us in the dark and
you're lighting candles.
light the candle before
that you should have light to be able to
say to read
the proper time to
is before
on a regular week there's a place where
should be said the bruter brings the zy
that alab
after
means after
brings in
however it's with the exception.
So here it's to do it before
we're going to say after but there's a
reason there's a purpose to say it to do
it before. Maybe we do it before.
What's about doing it
shabas before you go to my
Yeah, man. Shabas you're about to go out
put on you switched out of your shoes to
weekday clothing
then and there's even a why because
you're going to go to shul and you're
going to hear
lisa the ladies if they don't go to shul
they're not going to hear
so and if you heard what they're not
going to hear it it's pretty practical
to make it at home but I let them do it
themselves. These are Shilah. These are
Shil if ladies are included in Bes means
besides Shild which is a separate Shilah
the Shilah if ladies are included in so
in a practical
you can make before you go out to sh
and Emma says
he says you could do that. He brings
it's a practical good idea.
First of all, even though we said before
that you could make
before
which means before
when quoting this he says buton it
should be after which means after
so in it's going to be before
but it's after if you're going to do it
at home it's before
We do it for people that wouldn't
otherwise hear. It's either do it after
which we say
>> one second. One second. Well, good.
You're saying what's the one second?
You're doing it for people
that maybe can say it don't have it. Oh,
good. Very good. Very good. But first,
why not to do it before? First of all,
we said is because you shouldn't do it
before
questions doing it early. says cuz the
mig by clus is to do it in sh after me
before so he doesn't like so you're
doing it at home you're going to stop
doing it in sh everybody's going to
start doing it at home
says
after
a asking what's about the people that
let's say the ladies he says and em's
other po say like that as well also raos
the ladies could make my they could they
could so he it's better to do it after
my re and the ladies will make it
themselves
to say that it's to do before you go out
can't say it's
bring you could do it then sure
for sure the time brought us before if
you want to do it before you could do it
before if you didn't do it before you
didn't do it before even though we said
reasons to do it before
a person could do it if he missed it at
he missed it before he didn't do it it's
11:00 that he didn't do can make all or
shabas but again only matzah shabas
after m shabas you can't
so now we're going to move over to
again m shabas
and what part of abdah do you do from
The four parts of you only do one part.
You're not you don't say cuz there's no
bim and also you don't cuz you can't
drink the nod. Now we're going to go to
Sunday night.
You don't say cuz you already said
mabas.
Now even if you didn't say
and we said you don't d over
I think it's his own that you don't sayd
even if you didn't say why there's a
reason
to say
shabas so finish that's you missed it
you missed it you can't start putting it
into dinging Sunday night so if you
forgot got to say
you don't say it's Sunday night.
Now we're going to go into
we didn't make abdas.
What's about now Sunday night? If you're
going to make
let's just remember that you're not
going to make bam and not going to make
bares. for some and mares is only matzah
shabas and it happens to just be you
already made bores matzah shabas and
even if you didn't you're not going to
say it's Sunday night because the time
to make those two are only matzah shabas
so now our discussion is about
and Sunday night so so who said you can
make Sunday night let's take a look for
a minute on a regular mat shabas
What happens if a person didn't make
some say it's only through Sunday
and some say till Tuesday through
Tuesday
till Tuesday through Tuesday. So it's
very clear we didn't make
you can make Sunday night even though
it's a we
can make up until Tuesday afternoon till
Tuesday night. So for sure you can make
Sunday night.
However,
but again before every
you can make and Sunday, Monday, Tuesday
which is Sunday night we pass and you
can make
these are new and
particular fetishabove
the ram brings that even like him that
say on a regular week you only have till
Sunday
here they will agree that you could eat
you have Sunday night as well why why do
they say there is on every m shabas you
only have to you only have Sunday so
they say because
if somebody's
he misses a ding he's there's no tash
Schluman.
So is it so is it withdah
after Sunday a person's a we understand
somebody misses sometimes matzah shabas
you have Sunday for three days you
couldn't figure out how to make abd
you're a pa
however
and someday you couldn't make
you're not a
so therefore even there is that say that
you only have till long day in a regular
week. Here they will agree that you have
Sunday night as well. So you can make
Abdullah fine. So that's
you can make Sunday night and even the
that say you only have till Sunday will
agree here you have Sunday night.
These are
that says like this even on a regular
week that you have till Tuesday
have
these nodah no a why
on a regular weekd
if you couldn't make shabas these until
Tuesday afternoon
of this year there is nod
because you can't shrink the there is no
it's back to what the garra says
there is no
so if there's nodah it's not applicable
to even like that say on a regular week
you have up until Tuesday
this
nod there is no anymore
so interesting
this
clearly
there's one sim
it's called
which by the way it's not only a year
like this year if falls on shabas and we
push it to Sunday it's also It's
it's three lines the whole and the
speaks about the what do you do about
so
you make
and
clearly we pass and you make clearly
again no bay
even if you forgot no only
the dog is madak from the maril.
He says you make
it in it says
but maybe you should use
other
says that you make our you use wine
you use wine but
Sunday night when we're going to make
our you use wine
and their media using wine and the marel
doesn't say to give it to
like it's brought
shabas
why what's the last week shabas
it's brought
a lot of to give it to a kid to drink
it's not brought to give the to drink
that a kid should drink the is because
or this this year it wasn't shabas but
it
Shabas of the in the nine days
is not in the nine days. That's the in
the nine days
in the nine days
you should give it to and of the nine
days you could drink the k yourself even
though the says and that's a that even
after
through the next day either or says the
whole day because the mikdash started
burning tishab in the afternoon
throughout y when
told
in the afternoon
says kosher
not just masher to be no not to drink
wine and meat and laundry and swimming
till till the next day that's like that
but it's
when it comes to the nine days there it
just says m and The Mishu one speaking
about it says that it's user to eat meat
in the nine days to say he's a between
and
here's the place just a very bit to
bring out that we have to understand
that he's a super clear
between
something that's medina for an example
for an example learning on is the hash
sitt Sitting on the floor is a m
we could speak about it a whole year.
There's a lot of things on that we do
but m is only
is the whole day. I get a lot of times
questions in the afternoon. Could you
learn? Could you put on shoes? Whatever
is
the whole
is only but that's to understand that.
So just to be makum
sum up everything that we spoke up until
now
is only
we also make
is al
and you make the no
and and what we said also is another
part we said is that if you forgot
you say it you don't say it you don't
ding over and you don't why because
you're going to make Abdullah
and then if you forgot you don't say it
the iss
of a good few more minutes
to somebody that eats on
the
but that's going to have to be sometime
later today. I must probably record it a
separate. It's still going to take
another good 10 minutes. So, we'll keep
it as a part two. If it's relevant to
anybody, it'll be available on the sh's
website on Torah anytime. If somebody
does have to eat, then he has to make
Abdullah. When do you make Abdullah?
Ladies making Abdullah. Do kids make
Abdullah? If you make Abdullah, what do
you drink? That's a separate discussion.
Have a wonderful Shabas. And I just want
to be Messiah.
We spoke about making Abdullah
the
said
said over that he remembers his
father-in-law his first father-in-law
before the war tishov in the afternoon
under a tree
humming the nusk of kdesh
because a mashia is going to come tishab
is going to be a yamtiff and he is
connecting to the day of tishov
sitting on the floor
and a person supposed to bear
but it's all with the connection with
the understanding and with the hope of
the mikdash so even though we spoke
about
we should be
tishab is going to turn into a yam
and he was huming the kdesh and we make
kdesh
new.