SIMANIM ON ROSH HASHANA - WHAT WHEN AND WHY? Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

The McCoy for what's brought in Shanar of having Simon and Le Rashashana is a Gomorrah in two places a Gomorrah in a Gomorrah inus. The Gomorrah says the Gomorrah before speaks about to make a simmon about some things in a person should be rog we'll see soon what role is but a person should be rog to eat in the beginning of the year and the garra says five simonyim The five simony car which is pumpkin yellow squash. Rivia is black eyed peas. Karti leak silka spinach beets different the two of them. And then the garra says tamry dates. So the garra says because of similar one should one should eat these five simas same go but says again is to look at it to see it. So it's interesting the first garra says to eat the simash the first day of the year and the other gar the gar says to look at it. So is it to eat or to look? So the kafim says that really if somebody doesn't like the which that could be many times the case, you don't want to eat it. You can't eat it. You're allergic or even more sometimes, especially from the spinach has bugs in it and you can't eat it and you shouldn't eat it. You're not allowed to eat it. So then you look at it and as we'll see soon, So these two garamar says to eat it. Wang Gamar says to look at it. You could even you could look at it says you could be mpar will soon explain what this is all about but you could be mpar even if you have no on him that we should have shuka even if you don't have it. I usually get to shila almost on a yearly basis. What's about having other sim to eat life cereal and have you know he rots him? So the kafim says even if you don't have the simum at all you could be masal but we'll soon see what mean yes and what mean not. So we see the m the formash is not a is is not just something that people do. It's a theor brings about it. What's the reason for this? So these different reasons in the says based on it's also moral the says that and he says that's where you see by the n and when they got a of something for they tried to put it because once it happens once the thing happened already that there's no on the rashashite It's not yet the doesn't happen yet till the morning but we want to do something look at it have it eat have sweet we want to do that's why we have another reason the schlaw says the reason why we put it on the table, you eat it, you put on the table. Theor is to be maspel to be to be mpow for a good year. It's not so much like the says it's to have boil the food there but rather it's attempt is to bring a person to that's reason number two to be all the we say to be a third reason the says on the reason why we have sim is more like the first reason like that it's to bring a person to believe that he's going to have a good year, a sweet year, a year full of that he says to have it to bring a person to the says it's more the of the is what we do the of it. So three different reasons why we have rash. Reason number one is po to try to bring out the sack of a good year for the morning. Reason number two says the schlaw that it's to be a person to put a person in the mode for rash to be mal. And reason number three is to be a person that he's going to have a sweet year. The Gomorrah doesn't say anything about saying the Gomorrah says that was the whole Gmorra. I read the both places because of either to eat or to or to see to have it on the table. What's about? So these really about it the tour brings the tour brings the tour speaking about dipping the apple in the honey which we'll get to soon. So far we didn't see anything about it. The doesn't say anything about it. But the Torah says when you dip the apple and the honey you say rotten from the ra that by all the you say the rotten all the all of those you say the you say rotten. So we have clearly if you say or not it could be the if you say the rot in the when you eat when you look at it is mit in the reasons if the reason why we have simonyim what's the reason why we have simony if reason is like to bring it or for so then you don't really have to say but if the reason if the reason is not the reason like the schlaw says to be a person to be then of course you say rot the whole idea of having the sim eating it or seeing it is to be so if you say rotson or not is the reason why we have simon M >> is not an end during the is just a wish. It's not really >> uh very good. We we'll get to that. Some tak say that it's not left. I think the says that the says exactly that. Very good. Yankee says it's not cuz the time to be is not during you eat. Exactly like you're saying we're in we're not during the suda. That's what the says it's not it's for >> it puts it puts ideas in a person. >> No. No. So really you're saying even in the you're saying it's that you need then it's later. >> No inspire person to mispo it puts ideas in his head. So the schlah says that's what it's not just that we eat the because we eat it we eat it because to bring a person in his head you don't have to it's not about the we're not during we eat the reason why we eating the while we eat the or why we look at the so it's during right then and there you're saying even the is that what you're saying am I understanding correctly even would agree that could be you don't have to miss tomorrow for a good year. What's this? Regardless of the reasons, what is the what are we being? We're being what are we being? So thei says that the is even We're not being that the it's our in other words he says that this that we're being a spiral is a what type of is it a of chuva it's a of chuva all the rotans that were saying is all about being not just a don for chuva [Applause] The asks the asks how is it that we must follow by night? We say the we should have a good year, a sweet year, a happy year. How rash you're not supposed to d for yourself. How is it that we're masp that we're being for? We're being we're dominating for ourselves. So the it's very says even what we're being is the himself has a different he says it's more it's we're not openly being we're eating the things it's in other words it's not like we're getting up by ding and we're being maspal directly to give us parnosa. It's really what we're being it's it's in what what we're saying the so we have over here says five what we use the and we saw a few reasons for this we see is if you say the do you say what is do you say do you say the So either way you do is right because it's a clear when brings a different meaning. He doesn't say the also when he brings it does not say not to say it. So he says he puts it in brings the for it. So we have if you say theem it's interesting some only say the shame hashem by the sim that the garra brings. We we didn't get yet to the other sim but only what the garra brings. Which is interesting. Many don't even do what the garra brings. those interesting sim you could buy in the store such a tray you will see the seder of it but some the mataf brings that only the simon that the garra brings these ru and ki that's where you say the shame hashem so we have over here five simonyim that the garra brings ruia I said the ta black eyed peas leak beets okay dates those are all the gammorra There are a few others that are mentioned in the rishim. I don't think I'm listing all. I think there are more. I looked in the n gabriel brings other defan hogam. So if I left out any you can mention if you have any others but these are so to speak I would call it the standard shim. The tour brings Bashm dipping an apple in the honey. It's interesting. The lion is tapash. Is it a sweet apple or mo means? In other words, the the honey is sweet. Do you have to have a sweet apple? Could you have like a a little bit of a a kind of a sharp apple? There's many many different apples. Yep. Do you have to is the minute to have a sweet apple? The is it or it's a sweet apple? So, it's a sweet apple. It's >> not a sweet apple. What's the point of the apple? It's a banana. uh you're asking I wasn't going to go into it. I'm still not going to go into it, but there's many reasons why we have apple and it's and a there's a whole braw and the goyan says that the story of with the taking the happened and there was an apple over there being for that apple to certain things it's brought that it's that we want to try to take prove that we get the but that's the reason for an apple it's a I don't know and as we'll get to in the s there's some start with the apple before the but that's in the apple but we dip it into honey to have a sweet year so it's not relevant to have a sweet I don't know if we take an apple because an apple's Another another is to have a brings to have sweet things. Maybe means now to have candy. The tour brings Bashm to have Ro a Roas and a ro Kev is that was Could you get in the store ro Kev? Yeah, little piece or you could buy a >> a brought in the but says if you if you can't get a roy so then you can bring a roy of a it's interesting he doesn't even do say what we do the head of a fish but it's all the concept of not brought to later and And we eat dogum fish and we have so this is the list of sim if it may be more everyone with their mig asks the following question. Some of the sim that we eat were some for us that we should Why can't we have any food we want? For example, you do eat. You don't eat cuz it's sharp. Some people have a hard time. Pickles. Why can't we eat that? And for carrot when we eat the we must follow. Why not? Because we we don't want to have a Sharpie. So the should have a Sharpie. Why can't he eat the things that we don't eat and we must spar on the just like and he says the following he says the first thing is is you have to eat a good food in other words you need two qualifications in a sim in the sim number one it's a good food and Besides that it's a good food it also has to be on something. So the first thing is it's a food because that itself is something that's for a good year a good food on top of that it also has to be besides a good food something that you can spar for. So something that's not a good food something that's a sharp food we don't eat. >> Something at the table doesn't like to do much. They should look at it and they should say the rotats are that way. Maybe without the shame baby because if part of only fitted too well or maybe without the mashemos like the says even if there's no sim you could also be like the says there's no sh of you make a sh if it's not the right if you're not you could always be >> can a person just say the name and without those things he has like one of these and he's just Yes. Yes, you could definitely definitely you might you could even be right. You could say it could be you could even save it with you. Forget about the sib you're being if it's for a person to be so you got to be without the >> according to this >> says that it's a rais maybe it's only rem >> I hear I hear I hear it's a good point what you're saying then then if the redness is only while you're eating it it's tucked in >> right the question is if you don't >> I don't really the I make it that I I try to properly understand it. Why is a straight up? What's the you have to understand properly clearly what he means that it's a ramis? But you say maybe it's only to eating it or seeing it. Now we're going to the braha part. You make a bra. You make a bra and because it's not part of the suda under fruits you make and under vegetables leak and all those that the garra brings besides the last you make and if you can eat fruit again at the end of the suda you'll make another you don't make because you already made on something that's not part of the suda Being that you make a bra, you make the bra, you have to eat a little bit and then you'll say cuz if not it's a halfick. Let's say you're going to make on the apple. We'll soon see what you make the but let's say you make on the apple. That's the meaning of you make and then you want to say so first you have to bite and eat a little bit of the apple and then you say and then you continue eating that's what the says he brings the the magic says that it's not a halfick and I'm not going to go into it he brings some other places you can make a that it's not a because it's considered a and you could say the before says you should eat before what comes out you should say the before and what comes out like this if let's say by the second fruit that you're eating you already made now you're holding by the so before you eat the you should say it's only the first when you make a you can't be mafik And that's brings that you should eat a little bit and then say let's say you forgot you made and you said that's not a >> always say before you ate it or >> so the answer pretty clearly is it depends if it's the what you're making a you have to bite into it a little And then say and then continue like but anything else that you already made on you must follow you already made. So now the next fruit that you eating says then you eat it. What's the seder? The seder of eating the simony not so clear. If you have those different booklets and pamphlets, you'll see different ways different you go to and then in itself you really go first what's that the bra you learn you make on the first so like the brings you so you make on the tomorrow first and then after the after After the tomorrow you after the tomorrow you go to the other and when you finished after you finish continue goes and you go to laa there are many I know if it's hard to say but there are many many that make the on the apple that's the first sim that they do [Music] some because of that don't bring out the shiva on the table till after they make the I think it's to start with the apple but is supposed to make the so they bring it out later. That's our he has a he was to go up of the gammor which even though interesting the gum itself also brings eight but he says first we do the simon of the gamarra and then we bring the simon of the risham. We eat the one that say and mainly he used to start first with these interesting ones the and then ah you're supposed to make and then he didn't bring it out very good and even in itself also the same thing he started with the apple and then he brought out the he brought out the >> two the same order >> yes well asked and I I made sure to check and that was very interesting if that was changed I think mish literally is only between the between to see it or to eat it. [Music] When when do you eat a sim eat? after right to after this mash from the tour. However, and it's brought in the say and others maybe to do it right after kdesh but the is people do it after explains why it's not a heik between kdes and ami envision it actually is not even to do it not by kdish not by wherever it comes up that's where they do it by the main If they have carrots, they say that you are by dessert. These other to do it over there. But the island does it after just real quickly to two more pointers. Rel says that a person should be rog to do it. Regillus means three times. So some say to do this all four sudas. all four sudas to do the sim. It's actually brought in the mat. The mat does says that if you want you could do by day also not but this is a nice thing but if your kids learned in play group in the younger grades about the morning and they they went to sleep by night till you come home a long you do it by day but it's not st you know to do it to show that's also a fine but to do it so some t say it's the benes in two places in the ben and also in benes says to do the by to do the by you could do it you could you should do it all four however the he brings this and he's says doesn't mean more than three times that role means every year to do it and ask him only to do it by night but both nights most people do it both nights the mafim and others >> there is there are those that only do it the first night and they explain the reason is is because we're being a spiral for let's say just like we don't say we don't say the second night because there are those that had already the first day so he was only the first night not the second night on the first >> I want to just finish afterwards please I want to hear but most is is to do both nights. KVski did both, but he just didn't say he ws in the second night. Zman did both, but he didn't make such an asich of it the second night. But the min is to do both nights just to be one of the ate by and he said we have all these but he says for a person to stay calm for a person to be nice to people rash to give a smile the lion he brings that's How do we do all these things for and like the brings which is yard site was this Tuesday Wednesday he says not to get mad. We should all be for that for you. >> Yes.