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RESTRICTIONS CREATED BY MITZVAS DALED MINIM IN PARTICULAR WHEN THE FIRST DAY FALLS ON SHABBOS

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for this man this el's mount tin gimmel in between makas we finish makas tus or some are more or less finishing we're going to start after another maka but for the in between we're learning the per goes through the of the minimum starting from lul and the other dalm in this Morning Shiryus Petyus opening and for those that are haven't started yet the of I would like to focus on what the Dal mean do to us when it's shabas meaning to say shabas it's mah we're going to try to go through the of muk of the meaning Shabas which is relevant every single year. Every year there's always a shabas somewhere through sukus. So it's a Shabaso and it's negated this year as well as Shabas the first day as a Shabas and we'll see these are very interesting Shila that's relevant in particular to this year to bring out to illustrate to understand properly the concept of MT by Dalad Minim allow me to first begin by Schaer the MT by Schaeer which of course is relevant for this year this falls out to be shabas and some there's no shabas. We don't blow. Why not said we're afraid that if somebody doesn't know how to blow he's going to take the and carry the to show him how to blow he's going to come and he's going he's going to carry. So therefore said we do not blow shaifer on shabas and you put away the which being that we don't blow the other is also comes back on every shabas you're not blow why not blow on any other shabas so shabas first of all we don't have the mitzvah said you don't blow and also semi shami is not in glacier. So we don't blow shaifer but once we don't blow you have shm glacier and therefore what comes out it comes out is that the shaer is mokah it's mok but what type of mox theer is a cle so being that it's a cle it's a but it's a cle is very Easy. A second. A second. I want to hear about a second. You were practicing blowing the you put it down on your dining room table and now you want to move it cuz you need a place. You need a place for something else. It's to be metallical even though it's what's using the for is you want to use it to scoop out to use it for something. M which interesting the second day rash you're not let use why because the second day rash you're using the for the mitzvah being that it's you're not let to use it for something else but the first day that you didn't blow with it it's to use so what do we have over here before we begin and go for this year. The first day it's not going to move the only to scoop out and the second day you can move the as much as you want. It's not you can move it from today till tomorrow. Not just you can be but is because it's on the first kiss. >> Oh very good the before going the is that it's not and it's that's clear. You are right. You're bringing up a good kiss. It's clearly kiss and says that it's kiss people. I blow about I put high up. I don't it's not I have two threeers cheap ones for my kids. It's expensive. And then you can't be atl good point but it's also a good point because we'll see it's going to be relevant in dollar medium as well also just a minute it's a very good good point. So now, so that's Schaefer. >> Why is it also not meant for us to care? >> Why is that? Yeah, because you can't you can't >> like any other shabas. It could be it is. It could be it is, but it's the it's a good point. But at the end of the day it's a which clearly it's unless you run into that it's then it's completely >> not usable why can't you know because >> only on Shabas Sham every other Shabas Pesak or you know blow >> shash and also because it's it's a because of >> correct >> of >> absolutely there's two reasons why you can't use the on on shabas good that's I was trying to make it clear before but 100% shabas you can't blow the first of all because the said and also the general clay you ality use it to blow dessert when he said you so we're going to leave that on the side. I don't know if I ever spoke about earlier, but it's a discussion if if there were some there were places that maybe did blow, but we don't blow. We don't blow >> and we don't blow hooked. >> I want to leave it. I'll tell you why. I want to get to that. I want to We're going to move on. We'll get back to it afterwards. I want to I really want to We're learning of minimum. So, I want to get on to the focus. I just brought up a tyrus bringing out the concept of mukt and I I please want to hear afterwards. We'll continue about it. What's about the the onabas? So says the lulv is m on shabas. The lul is on shabas. Now what type of the we mentioned before is a it's a ki. So you can move it if it's on the dining room table. The lulv is not a kali. It's like a rock. And therefore you can't move it at all. It's you can't move it. So if you leave your lulaf, you're preparing your lulv. Someone took the lul of Friday and they left it on the table. You can't move it. And the pkim say that it's not only the lulv who had the is also they're also you can't move them it's a complete muk even you can't move it >> what it says >> okay so we'll we'll explain in a minute to understand properly the gather of the smoke so we'll get to it the estri however the estri is mut the estrig you could move. Why could you move the asteric? The reason why you could move the aster on on on shabas. We're talking about any shabas. Not only we're talking about shabas of sukus, but even if it's shabasa that it's the first that like this year that the first day of shabas, but you allow to move the aster. Why could you move the aster? Because it's usable. It's usable for smell. And being that you could smell the asterigg. So it's not you can move the as even now let's say your aster is in one place and you want to move it to another place you're allowed to move it it's not clearly because you could smell it >> what say >> I was going to get to that soon but I want to answer you clearly that says that it's the yardite was this past Monday says that there's noar and kiss on food in our right but says that food no matter how expensive it is if a person is desperate and that's the only food he has he's going to eat it so even though now he he's not desperate there's no such concept on food so on the aster I was going to get to it later brought it up very clear it's questionable but let's just say that if it's not the Clearly, you're allowed to use the asterigg. You could smell the asterig >> during the what the is is a question. We're not going to go into it now. >> What' you say? >> Oh, very good. I I What's with >> What's with You can also smell good. >> No, no, no, no, no. Let's we're leaving. That's why I was going to say the the the part of let's let's delete that for a minute. You regular move cuz you could smell it. So we just mentioned a minute ago. You cannot move the hadum on Shabas. Ah you could smell the also. So no you're not allowed to smell the you're not let smell. You're allowed to smell. You're not allowed to smell. What's the difference? Why can't you smell the hadasim? Meaning to say is if you would be able to smell the it wouldn't be m at all. You can move the because it's usable to smell. So what's the difference between the and the with me? Why is the not m at all? Because you could smell it and theim you can't smell. So the is in the mitzvah whatever the item is used for it becomes user to use because you're using it for the mitzvah. An aster what is an aster used for? An aster is meant to eat. That's what aster is meant for. So you're now to eat that's the you eat a called shiv because you moto from eating the aster. you're not allowed to eat it. First day sukus, you took the arig for the next seven days, you know how to eat the aster because an estrig is meant to eat and therefore if you take it for the mitzvah you're not to eat it. Smelling however that's not what the estri is meant for and therefore if you want you could smell it. So therefore the aster is not shabas at all the first day of shabas. It's not cuz you could smell the asterim on the other end. What's made for for smelling? So when you use the mitzvah when you use the mitzvah you're being you're being the whole not only on shabas but you're m from using theim for smell because you're using it for mitzvah to so to sum it up clearly to sum it up clearly a in the mah and then we'll move on to particular for this here on shabas. What' you say? >> Hold your your far away from your face so you don't smell. >> First of mean you should hold it. >> You don't smell it. >> Maybe you have to hold it normal. These once we spoke about it how far how when you hold it how far you're supposed to hold. I think the Kesh speaks about it. You're not supposed to go and smell it. I mean, if you smell it, you're supposed to make a bro. You're not smelling it. You smelled it. You smelled it. So, just to be makum very clearly, just a easy and simple takeaway what we spoke so far on Shabas is it's a so it's a lad moveer on Shabas. which is not so relevant. If your is on your dining room table underway, you got to move the lul is and therefore you cannot move it for any reason. An estrig being that you could smell the estrig the whole sukus shabus it's not muk and you could totally move to illustrate this let's get into for a minute have such a minute and some that are no to smell bum on Friday night the hadum who's busy sukus or shabas he forgot he want he doesn't have so he wants to use the dasum of the lulf could you use the dasum of the lulv so what does the say could you use the dasim of course not absolutely not it's mk we just said you're not allow to smell it and mo means you're not allowed to move it but we said you're not to smell das >> to hold it smell it hold So he's still not allowed to do it. You're not allowed to do it because it's because >> I take it on is not a mitzvah to use them and you can't use them on. So it's not mitzvah and then >> so you have a point. You're saying that when it comes because we don't take the mean it's a stop. It's not like that because the rig you're now going to eat is it's it's becomes so it's even though you're right on Shabas we don't take the but once you took it the first day becomes and it stays till after suckers >> even by the if you eat it you destroy it here by the response destroy >> it's not about it's not about the is nothing to do with destroying it is from a mitzvah which is used for the mitzvah even if you're not destroying it for an example your fillin bag your bottle you know if if you use it to putting fillin inside you're not to put money inside so this is very clear you forgot to get you can't use it >> without shil want to ask the what happens this year. It was a busy few days. You forgot to get hadim to smell for the hadim by kdesh. Could you use theim Friday night? You didn't use it yet. >> Oh, very good. We ask meaning to say if you prepare something for the mitzvah and you didn't use it, it doesn't have the kaduca of the mitzvah. >> Once once you used it already, it has kadusha mitzvah. That's it. You can't smell it. But before if you prepared, you bought a beautiful fillin bag and you you made it for the fillin, but you never put the fillin inside. It's amazing. And then you decide, you know what, you're not using, you don't like that color, that mix with the felt and the leather, you want something else. If you never used it for it's so the true you spent hours to find the most beautiful and you already prepared it and you tied it up in the lulaf but at the end of the day like the says if you didn't pick it up it does it doesn't have the the it's not it's not mitzvah. So watch come out come out is that you should be allowed to use it. >> What say? >> The whole rul. >> So let let's say it's separate. Let's just say it's separate because the other ones it's there's nothing what to use it for. But let's say that let's make it simple that are separate in its own package. And you want to use that could you should come out you should be able to use it. However, It's not it's not this year. >> Why is it ever the first night? >> I don't know. I don't know. These are sh by the way if the first night also if it also already becomes hook to the first night could you smell the first night but here we want to know it's not even the first night it's the first day. There's no doubl. >> Let's focus on on the first the first night is just sh the first day of shabas. Could you smell the could you smell the so you should be able to use it says like this it's pretty clear but he brings it out. There are two mukes on the dalim. These are mah that's masitzvah which that is then there's another mah which is which is shabas these two mukas. He's a mah of minim which that's co and then he's a mah of shabas which is oh and shabas raq is mah because a person's you put up grapes on the roof cuz you wanted to dry out to turn raisins. So even though you could go up now and you could eat the you could eat the grapes but you were maxed you moved your mind away from it. two mas. Therefore, he says like this. He says is between the two. The first is that the mitzvah is only once you did the mitzvah the mah of shabas. Even if you didn't do the mitzvah, it's still going to be because you even though let's say the now the first day it would be another. So before going further what would come out now is that the even though it's not because but it would be that's what should come out. So it should be aer however one minute one minute however however there's another that he says which is also pretty posh the first is even which means something now like we said by the second day you now have from the however the of shabas the mz is only bilto It's not a m of and then he goes on to say also these obviously the is the shabas is only shabas. So what comes out? So really what comes out and says the same thing and what comes out is that the these you want to use these Friday night it's not why is it not because it's as but being that you put them in the fridge in the back far away no one should touch it you you So it's a it's not move it. However, however, even though you can't move it, you could be in the hand or you could smell it. So if it's in the back of the fridge and how you going to get it out of the package, I don't know practically how you're going to use it to smell it. But let's say it's in a bag, you could just open without moving the hadasim. You could smell it. So Friday night this year Friday night you'll be able to smell it. So, so what comes out just to sum it up over here with the dal and with this I'm going to conclude the aster which we'll move on the side for now the you can move the you can move it you can smell it though says that it's questionable he says that it's could be kiss so it's questionable the other three Clearly it's a over on Shabas during sukus you're not allowed to move it you're not allowed to move it we did bring up a point that maybe the first day of sukus which is shabas the l if there's nothing what to move what are you moving it for but maybe the hadim is not a rockus is a rock you have no business moving it there's nothing what to do with it butim you have what you benefit from the because you could smell the true mitzvah this year the mitzvah didn't start till a day later. So the mitzvah it's not but it's like we saw you it's not any different than putting the grapes on the roof. It's not because these lights and it's because you from the hadum as well. So what's going to come out is of you have but you can't move it. So if you'll have a way to use the without moving you'll be able to move it. Have a wonderful Shabas.