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RESTRICTIONS CREATED BY MITZVAS DALED MINIM IN PARTICULAR WHEN THE FIRST DAY FALLS ON SHABBOS
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Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner from 2023
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for this man this el's mount tin gimmel
in between makas we finish makas tus or
some are more or less finishing we're
going to start after another maka but
for the in between we're learning
the per goes through
the of the minimum starting from lul and
the other dalm
in this Morning Shiryus
Petyus opening and for those that are
haven't started yet the of I would like
to focus on what the Dal mean
do to us
when it's shabas
meaning to say shabas it's mah we're
going to try to go through the of muk of
the meaning Shabas which is relevant
every single year. Every year there's
always a shabas somewhere through sukus.
So it's a Shabaso
and it's negated this year as well as
Shabas the first day as a Shabas and
we'll see these are very interesting
Shila that's relevant in particular to
this year
to bring out to illustrate to understand
properly
the concept of MT by Dalad Minim allow
me to first begin by Schaer the MT by
Schaeer which of course is relevant for
this year this
falls out to be shabas and some there's
no shabas. We don't blow.
Why not
said we're afraid that if somebody
doesn't know how to blow
he's going to take the and carry the to
show him how to blow
he's going to come and he's going he's
going to carry.
So therefore said we do not blow shaifer
on shabas and you put away the
which being that we don't blow
the other is also comes back on every
shabas you're not blow why not
blow on any other shabas
so shabas
first of all we don't have the mitzvah
said you don't blow and also semi shami
is not in glacier. So we don't blow
shaifer but once we don't blow you have
shm glacier and therefore what comes out
it comes out is that the shaer is mokah
it's mok
but what type of mox theer is a cle so
being that it's a cle
it's a
but it's a cle
is very Easy.
A second. A second. I want to hear about
a second.
You were practicing blowing the you put
it down on your dining room table and
now you want to move it cuz you need a
place. You need a place for something
else. It's to be metallical
even though it's
what's
using the for
is
you want to use it to scoop out to use
it for something. M
which interesting
the second day rash
you're not let use
why because the second day rash you're
using the for the mitzvah
being that it's you're not let to use it
for something else but the first day
that you didn't blow with it it's to use
so what do we have over here before we
begin and go
for this year. The first day it's
not going to move the
only
to scoop out and
the second day you can move the as much
as you want. It's not you can move it
from today till tomorrow. Not just you
can be
but
is because it's
on the first kiss.
>> Oh very good the
before going
the is that it's not
and it's
that's clear.
You are right. You're bringing up a good
kiss. It's clearly kiss and
says that it's kiss
people.
I blow about
I put high up. I don't it's not I have
two threeers
cheap ones for my kids.
It's expensive.
And then you can't be atl good point but
it's also a good point because we'll see
it's going to be relevant in dollar
medium as well also just a minute it's a
very good good point. So now, so that's
Schaefer.
>> Why is it also not meant for us to care?
>> Why is that? Yeah, because you can't you
can't
>> like any other shabas. It could be it
is. It could be it is, but it's the it's
a good point. But at the end of the day
it's a
which clearly
it's
unless you run into that it's
then it's completely
>> not usable
why can't you
know
because
>> only on Shabas Sham every other Shabas
Pesak
or you know blow
>> shash
and also
because it's it's a because of
>> correct
>> of
>> absolutely there's two reasons why you
can't use the on on shabas good that's I
was trying to make it clear before but
100% shabas you can't blow the first of
all because the said
and also the general
clay you ality use it
to blow
dessert when he said you
so we're going to leave that on the
side. I don't know if I ever spoke about
earlier, but it's a discussion if if
there were some there were places that
maybe did blow, but we don't blow. We
don't blow
>> and we don't blow hooked.
>> I want to leave it. I'll tell you why. I
want to get to that. I want to We're
going to move on. We'll get back to it
afterwards. I want to I really want to
We're learning of minimum. So, I want to
get on to the focus. I just brought up a
tyrus bringing out the concept of mukt
and I I please want to hear afterwards.
We'll continue about it. What's about
the
the onabas?
So
says the lulv is m on shabas. The lul is
on shabas. Now what type of the we
mentioned before is a it's a ki.
So you can move it if it's on the dining
room table. The lulv is not a kali. It's
like a rock.
And therefore you can't move it at all.
It's
you can't move it. So if you leave your
lulaf, you're preparing your lulv.
Someone took the lul of Friday
and they left it on the table. You can't
move it.
And the pkim say that it's not only the
lulv who had the is also they're also
you can't move them it's a complete muk
even you can't move it
>> what it says
>> okay so we'll we'll explain in a minute
to understand properly the gather of the
smoke so we'll get to it the estri
however the estri is mut the estrig you
could move. Why could you move the
asteric? The reason why you could move
the aster on on on shabas. We're talking
about any shabas. Not only
we're talking about shabas of sukus, but
even if it's shabasa
that it's the first that like this year
that the first day of shabas, but you
allow to move the aster. Why could you
move the aster? Because it's usable.
It's usable for smell. And being that
you could smell the asterigg.
So it's not you can move the as even now
let's say
your aster is in one place and you want
to move it to another place you're
allowed to move it it's not clearly
because you could smell it
>> what say
>> I was going to get to that soon but I
want to answer you clearly that says
that it's
the
yardite was this past Monday says that
there's noar
and kiss on food in our
right but says that food no matter how
expensive it is if a person is desperate
and that's the only food he has he's
going to eat it so even though now he
he's not desperate there's no such
concept on food
so on the aster I was going to get to it
later brought it up very clear it's
questionable
but let's just say that if it's not
the Clearly, you're allowed to use the
asterigg. You could smell the asterig
>> during the what the is is a question.
We're not going to go into it now.
>> What' you say?
>> Oh, very good. I I What's with
>> What's with
You can also smell
good.
>> No, no, no, no, no. Let's we're leaving.
That's why I was going to say the the
the part of let's let's delete that for
a minute. You regular move cuz you could
smell it. So we just mentioned a minute
ago. You cannot move the hadum on
Shabas.
Ah you could smell the also. So
no you're not allowed to smell the
you're not let smell. You're allowed to
smell. You're not allowed to smell.
What's the difference? Why can't you
smell the hadasim? Meaning to say is if
you would be able to smell the it
wouldn't be m at all. You can move the
because it's usable to smell. So what's
the difference between the and the with
me? Why is the not m at all? Because you
could smell it and theim you can't
smell. So the is
in the mitzvah
whatever the item is used for it becomes
user to use because you're using it for
the mitzvah. An aster what is an aster
used for? An aster is meant to eat.
That's what aster is meant for.
So you're now to eat that's the you eat
a called shiv because you moto
from eating the aster. you're not
allowed to eat it. First day sukus, you
took the arig for the next seven days,
you know how to eat the aster because an
estrig is meant to eat and therefore if
you take it for the mitzvah you're not
to eat it. Smelling however that's not
what the estri is meant for and
therefore if you want you could smell
it. So therefore the aster is not shabas
at all
the first day of shabas. It's not cuz
you could smell the asterim
on the other end.
What's made for for smelling? So when
you use the mitzvah when you use the
mitzvah you're being
you're being the whole not only on
shabas but you're m from using theim for
smell because you're using it for
mitzvah
to so to sum it up clearly
to sum it up clearly a in the mah and
then we'll move on to particular for
this here
on shabas. What' you say?
>> Hold your your far away from your face
so you don't smell.
>> First of mean you should hold it.
>> You don't smell it.
>> Maybe
you have to hold it normal. These once
we spoke about it how far how when you
hold it how far you're supposed to hold.
I think the Kesh speaks about it.
You're not supposed to go and smell it.
I mean, if you smell it, you're supposed
to make a bro. You're not smelling it.
You smelled it. You smelled it. So, just
to be makum very clearly, just a easy
and simple takeaway what we spoke so far
on Shabas is
it's a so it's a
lad moveer on Shabas.
which is not so relevant.
If your is on your dining room table
underway, you got to move the
lul
is
and therefore you cannot move it for any
reason.
An estrig being that you could smell the
estrig the whole sukus
shabus it's not muk and you could
totally move
to illustrate
this let's get into for a minute
have such a minute and some that are no
to smell bum on Friday night the hadum
who's busy sukus or shabas he forgot he
want he doesn't have so he wants to use
the dasum of the lulf could you use the
dasum of the lulv
so what does the say could you use the
dasim
of course not
absolutely not it's mk we just said
you're not allow to smell it and mo
means you're not allowed to move it but
we said you're not to smell das
>> to hold it smell it hold
So he's still not allowed to do it.
You're not allowed to do it because it's
because
>> I take it on is not a mitzvah to use
them and you can't use them on. So it's
not mitzvah and then
>> so you have a point. You're saying that
when it comes because we don't take the
mean it's a stop. It's not like that
because the rig you're now going to eat
is it's it's
becomes
so it's
even though you're right on Shabas we
don't take the but once you took it the
first day becomes
and it stays
till after suckers
>> even by the if you eat it you destroy it
here by the response destroy
>> it's not about it's not about the is
nothing to do with destroying it is
from a mitzvah which is used for the
mitzvah even if you're not destroying it
for an example your fillin bag your
bottle you know if if you use it to
putting fillin inside you're not to put
money inside
so this is very clear you forgot to get
you can't use it
>> without
shil want to ask the what happens
this year. It was a busy few days. You
forgot to get hadim to smell for the
hadim by kdesh. Could you use theim
Friday night?
You didn't use it yet.
>> Oh, very good.
We ask
meaning to say if you prepare something
for the mitzvah and you didn't use it,
it doesn't have the kaduca of the
mitzvah.
>> Once once you used it already, it has
kadusha mitzvah. That's it. You can't
smell it. But before if you prepared,
you bought a beautiful fillin bag and
you you made it for the fillin, but you
never put the fillin inside. It's
amazing. And then you decide, you know
what, you're not using, you don't like
that color, that mix with the felt and
the leather, you want something else. If
you never used it for
it's
so the
true you spent hours to find the most
beautiful and you already prepared it
and you tied it up in the lulaf but at
the end of the day like the says if you
didn't pick it up
it does it doesn't have the the it's not
it's not mitzvah.
So watch come out come out is that you
should be allowed to use it.
>> What say?
>> The whole rul.
>> So let let's say it's separate. Let's
just say it's separate because the other
ones it's there's nothing what to use it
for. But let's say that let's make it
simple that are separate in its own
package. And you want to use that could
you should come out you should be able
to use it. However,
It's not it's not this year.
>> Why is it ever
the first night?
>> I don't know. I don't know. These are sh
by the way if the first night also if it
also already becomes hook to the first
night could you smell the first night
but here we want to know it's not even
the first night it's the first day.
There's no doubl.
>> Let's focus on on the first the first
night is just sh the first day of
shabas. Could you smell the could you
smell the
so you should be able to use it
says like this it's pretty clear but he
brings it out. There are two mukes on
the dalim. These are mah that's
masitzvah
which that is
then there's another mah which is which
is
shabas
these two mukas. He's a mah of minim
which that's co and then he's a mah of
shabas which is oh and shabas raq is mah
because a person's
you put up grapes on the roof cuz you
wanted to dry out to turn raisins. So
even though you could go up now and you
could eat the you could eat the grapes
but you were maxed
you moved your mind away from it. two
mas. Therefore, he says like this. He
says is between the two. The first is
that the mitzvah is only once you did
the mitzvah the mah of shabas. Even if
you didn't do the mitzvah, it's still
going to be because you
even though let's say the now the first
day it would be
another.
So before going further what would come
out now is that the
even though
it's not because
but it would be
that's what should come out. So it
should be aer however one minute one
minute however however
there's another that he says which is
also pretty posh
the first
is even
which means something
now like we said by the second day you
now have from the
however the of shabas the mz is only
bilto It's not a m of
and then he goes on to say also these
obviously the is the
shabas is only shabas. So what comes
out? So really what comes out and says
the same thing
and what comes out is that the these
you want to use these Friday night
it's not why is it not because it's as
but
being that you
put them in the fridge in the back far
away no one should touch it you you
So it's a it's
not move it.
However, however, even though you can't
move it, you could be in the hand or you
could smell it. So if it's in the back
of the fridge and how you going to get
it out of the package, I don't know
practically how you're going to use it
to smell it. But let's say it's in a
bag, you could just open without moving
the hadasim.
You could smell it. So Friday night this
year Friday night you'll be able to
smell it.
So, so what comes out just to sum it up
over here with the dal and with this I'm
going to conclude
the aster which we'll move on the side
for now the you can move the you can
move it you can smell it though says
that it's questionable he says that it's
could be
kiss so it's questionable the
other three
Clearly it's a
over on Shabas
during sukus you're not allowed to move
it you're not allowed to move it we did
bring up a point that maybe the first
day of sukus which is shabas
the l if there's nothing what to move
what are you moving it for but maybe the
hadim is not a rockus is a rock you have
no business moving it there's nothing
what to do with it butim
you have what you benefit from the
because you could smell the
true mitzvah this year the mitzvah
didn't start till a day later. So the
mitzvah it's not but it's like we saw
you
it's not any different than putting the
grapes on the roof. It's not because
these lights and it's because you
from the hadum as well. So what's going
to come out is
of you have but you can't move it. So if
you'll have a way to use the without
moving you'll be able to move it. Have a
wonderful Shabas.