RECITING HALLEL ON CHANUKAH - CHIYUV FOR LADIES LIKE CANDLE LIGHTING OR NOT - Rabbi Scheiner

Today's shir is my greatgrandfather of the shul shiner shul 184 is called bdish after my great-grandfather we're just about approaching Hanukkah the garora in Shabas After going through the story of Kaneka, [snorts] the Gomorrah concludes and the Gomorrah says the following year after the nace at the time was actually later than an fortif. Like Rashi says there's no actually we find originally when he was he made it for a formal like the Gomorrah says in the beginning of migillah and then wasn't a kabalit and therefore later you see that it wasn't called there's no buton there's no when the says there's no that we say and Of course there's a discussion these are part three also that of course we all know which is those are the three and alanim yeah we're going to focus on today's sh about the but let's understand for a minute why is it if there's So it's not a that if they made it they could have said that happened. So in Kaneka I think he brings the brisk because he mentions a few times the briskar I'm not sure if exactly this particular part is also from the briskar but he says you can't just say you can't just say has to be attached to y now usually means there's no It's a call that some bring that boss on though that's not a we don't say that he's on there's no but it's interesting in by the midst They have a gear over there in the words of the new ones they don't have that gear. So he says and then he'll to say if it wouldn't be a you wouldn't be able to say how the also explains when the ra says it's a sim that it's aimk how does a raom know it's a yimka It has to be because that's the only way to be able to say how we say it's yet. >> Good. Very good. So the Gmorra says that the is considered a you're asking good what happened to that's a good shaka. When we say that you can always say halo or that you know however you want to phrase it is that talking about full hollow or even like what we would say for >> Oh very good very good we're going to go a bit into the hollow to answer your question you want to know if it's the full howl not the full howl. The focus of all of the discussion is the to say is a full howl. Full when you don't say full howl, it's not really considered like saying we spoke about it over here actually around the time of P. Maybe it was right after Pes between the that's not a full howl. These are how of the remainder days of Pes that's not a full how. And then he's the howl, the full howl. So let's go a bit into how and then we're going to zoom into the how of the Gor says there are 18 days that we say how when it means eight what it means to say how by the whole how these the eight days of sukus there it's a stroll in it's a bit more eight days of of sukus eight days of kanaka that's 16 one day of Pes and one day of Shu. So that's 18 days that you say hal. Now the Gmorrah says why don't we say hal on Shabas. So the Gmorrah says Shabas is not it's not a Y. It's not a we should say howl. We don't say we don't say the full howl. If you even say but you don't say full why don't you say why don't we have the to say cuz even though it's not so you don't say very good it's not and it's not why do we say you know why you on a new reason the gar says you say because it's a and it's not the reason you say but you need those [clears throat] is but it's not shabas is but it's not so that's neither neither Why do you say a different reason to bring it out that it's a different reason? Let's go to the Gmorra. The Gomorrah says there are two different the Gmorrah says that to say how one of two reasons either I'll call per meaning to say any once in a while pes and then the garra says there was another time there and how alultur Harash and explain had a sorrow and they were neat. was a you says the there are two types of these say how 18 days in the year full how of the 18 days some of the days is als and like what we saw in the gam it has to be a has to And then there's another of once to go in. We're not going to go into it now, but these two types of howls there are big minister Briskarov and speaks about the two types of meaning to say it's the two and the fine but as we're going into eight days of Kaneka as we saw the Gomorrah says means the Gmorra says you know why you say it and the gar says when they said and when we say that's how now let's take a moment and get right back to Kaneka there are three on Kaneka there's no to make a ma it's very nice it's very beautiful and if you see it becomes a sudas mitzvah there are three among kaneka these near kaneka these hall and these the focus in today's is our ladies in hollow of kanuk what's the shila to says, "Ladies are in just like ladies are they are even though it's a mitzvah, but it's avo Why they were in the n of for most of the part the ladies don't light the husbands are but for whatever a ladies by herself a she's 100% she's and even if she's not by herself. She's with her family. She's however she's with the but she's why even though it's a what are the other okay soim even if we forget alanim you don't d over and if a lady ds she should say alanim it's not so such a shila and by the shabasa when she benches of course she should say alanim And if she forgets, you don't d over. You don't bench over. What's about? What's about? Just like delight. And we just spent a few minutes now explaining that the is sukus is one thing. Sukus. The Mishna says in in in that a lady cannot be mighty a man howl. Tyus explains why not because ladies are not and how why it's a mitzl is it's the first day of pes it's a ladies they can't be so a lady can't be a man because she's not and but even though it say the howl we say is for the n We say because it's a Y. Okay. So it's to say she's just like a lady is not to take she's not but even though it's just like she's to lie even though it's what should come out is that she's and ding we know as much as they could they but but should come out that and are fall he says yet should come out in he says he says even though it's a ladies are you going to ask me says the ask I theory says that ladies why doesn't Gomorra say as well also you're telling me that ladies. So why does he say it? Why doesn't he say? So he says that Levy spoke about it's a bigger say ladies. Why? Because the reason why we have near is for the n of the mikdash ladies are less applicable over there. They don't give the notd they're not really part of it. still still ladies but he didn't the didn't even have to speak about how for sure the gummor says like we began today's shir the goes through the story of he was a and cloud is nit from the and the isl so the ladies were also nit of course they say hal just like purim they they were nit they weren't we No, we were all saved from being killed out from including the ladies. How was the same thing? So what should come out just like ladies to light them ladies and to say hal that's we could stop right here and that's what comes out. However, it's not so paret. Not only it's not so posh the Rambam is not like that the Rambam and the Rambam has together and together and from starts the Rambam says in Khan that a lady can't be Moy a man howl he's speaking on it's true that the Mishna in Suka says that a lady can't be Mozy a and howl. But as what what we came out is of should clearly be different because of they should be able to be from the Ramb says that a lady can't be a man on is that the Rambam held that ladies on and the question is why why would we say the ladies just like the so the says I would like to give an answer and say you know why why they're not was the nace that we found the oil the eight days of so that ladies How that we say like the Gmorrah says we from the and ladies are not they're not part of just like one of the roots and why ladies are not is because is to kill like ladies are not so they don't say they're But he says of course you can't say that cuz purim purim we read the mill ladies why they because they were part of the nace part of the n of the honey they were saved. So I'm going tell you the same thing also they were saved just like poor ladies of because they were saved from being killed out also they were saved from being killed out. That shouldn't be a reason why they're potter from. So why is it from the mitzvah of just like the so himself says true they're but they're not in the whole how the even only in one per but at least only one per they don't have to say the whole howl so the rama says a lady can't be mighty a man Because the for men is the whole howl for ladies one per is enough that can't be mighty though it needs a little bit more beer to understand why should ladies be different to only have one per but he says one per is enough therefore they can't be mighty to men the men and the whole ladies even one of is enough but there are These are no terrorsman and say the following. It's true that on Kaneka we say because of the nace the nace of Kaneka but there's a difference between when you do something for the nace particularly of Kaneka or Purim or if you do it for the general a nace in general and I'll explain purim we read the mgilla it's not general nace it's for the nace we read the mgilla the nace of what happened on Purim Kaneka. We lie to Maninoa. Why do we lie to Manura? For the particular nace that happened on Kaneka. However, how that we say on true like the Gomorrah says and like what the Gamarra says in but once we say the hollow that we're saying is a generalized han generalized on the N. You look into it doesn't say anything about the n of it's all thanking of course like the gmor says it's we say throughout but when we're saying how what's the howl the howl is on general nace on general what's the terret the question Because why don't our ladies not they should be the says is a when you do something for that we read the because connected to the n of purim we light thera which is connected to the n of Kaneka. Mash get of course we say the n that happened on and we say was we were [snorts] but now that we're saying the is more of a general it's on general mad a third terret it's along the lines of these terret but it's actually a big a bigger step further. What we just said up until now in this terret is that the reason why ladies are not is even though it's a nace but it's on the general nace not particularly for another terror and yet even call it a step further by swirl I learned in patter and they both say this same. Of course, they say it with clarity going through a lot of parts of the suga, but I just want to take out the punchline. Of course, like what the Gammorra says that the reason why we say mishumna, but what they say is like this like what we spoke briefly in the beginning of the year, you say how on a yiff if somebody has a nest, this person has a nest, you bench, maybe sometimes you don't bench go, but there's no howl. You don't get up and say hollow on a nace because of a nace these are yumptive and then you say hollow up until now again what we said is how is for a n but it's a general n that's why ladies what are saying is that of course the garra says But they made a y like the gar says the how that was saying of course but we made a and was saying it's a ladies are you know why ladies are Cuz is not the Y of [clears throat] the N. There was a N in the BD to light. You don't have to have a Y. There was a indilla. There's no Y like we mentioned in the beginning of this year. Of course, like the gar says but we made a you don't need the like other though also you don't need the but why are you saying how why are we saying over this we're saying Just like just like if we're saying it out the it's lastly one more I conclude there are other but just to sum up what we're speaking about the whole sheek has three mitzvah, three and ladies and you say it ladies should be and says they're not. So we gave a few one final terret in the he says very interesting [snorts] that ladies but it's only when these pursums had of course is pursuing Issa Kaill is also a concept of pursum issa that's why with minion pursum issa It's not pursuing. So even though is only when what they're going to do is pursuing you have to understand why. So they have to make a but he says only when he's pursuing. So what we have over here is ladies are talking. Of course they could say howl just like they could say howl in all the could be all the mitzvah shazman and we should be yet this year not just for the mitzvah of we should be able to have the mikdash and bring the carbonus from have a wonderful shabas.