Rabbi Simcha Bunim Berger Kedushas Shabbos - Kiddush B'makom Seudah

Can you hear me? You want to listen to the thing? [gasps] Okay. Good evening. Welcome to Torah Anytime. Another Shir in Shabas. We're starting a new season. Tonight's shabus kesh. He makes kdesh and he has a little bit of mus or he has a little bit of pis. He goes home to eat the cida. Does he have to make kdesish again? You know what a ceda is, right? I want to tell you one funny story if I may. I can't tell you the names of the people because I don't have a right to. But when I was younger in Los Angeles, California [snorts] Rabbi Lo, he was the son-in-law of Rabbi Isacson. He called up one of the balabatim to invite them for they were say and they were yakasha people. So he called them up to invite them. So the bayas that means the wife answered the phone. So he says I want to invite your husband to ca. She said to what? To a ceda. She said I don't know what that is. You know, you know, oh, yeah, that's what we're talking about. Okay. [snorts] You want it reveals, you want to know when you go home on Shabas, do you have to make Kdesh again? Is the D ofish a din in the Kdish? Which means to say where you make you have to eat something or which means to say the iss and that has to have with it that means that kdish isn't I'm going to show you soon inside the exactly this and the difference if The din is the second way a suda misinus won't help you. If the dinner is the has to have kdish with it then having mus is not and mus is not called then you didn't have kdish but if it's in the kdish as when you make kdes so you had a mus also let's see this inside here you go so the first of all the mar we're going to go to page number one this is what it looks Like I'm actually going to pull out a just to start from the from just to read a little bit beforehand. So and then we'll go directly into this page look excuse me. Thank you. Theor says like this. Once upon a time they had people stayed in the sh and they ate in the those people who made kesh and they're going to go home to eat. So they're the they're the mispalim who are not eating in sh but they made kdesh. Now the top of the page says the eldesh you were the gaba and you made kdish in youish why you making kdish at home to be because they didn't hear kdish whoever was there in the house didn't come to If you're not being so what are you making for they're eating in and they need to hear kesh your kdish and their is good enough. We're going to learn more about this soon. means that held even where there is no and you're also but held. So now ram who do we bask in like but before we go there when we said according to maybe if I made in and I'm going to another place like home that's two separate places in you made kdish and sh and you didn't eat. You were you you made k you were the gaba or you were the sha balaboo and you made kdish for everybody but you know what I'm eating at home so according to you weren't ya kdish this is you didn't eat you're not ya how about if I'm making kdesh upstairs for the women and now I'm coming downstairs such a nice fellow he decides and the the women are sitting in a different room I'm going to go kdish for them over there. I'm not going to eat there. I'm not eating by the women. Then I'm going to come back and I'm going to eat by the kesh room. It works. It doesn't work. Wouldn't be a problem. I remember that I was by the he went from the roof to the ground. He didn't want to make kdesh upstairs. He wanted dka to make kdesh where he was eating since he wasn't going to eat up by the roof. He was going to eat downstairs. So he waited before. meaning that even though it was in the same building so to speak, it wasn't good enough for him. He made the lights blew out the candles once upon a time electricity. So when they have that job candles, the candles blew out in the same building his son Rabbi lived. So we'll sit there. What does he do? He goes upstairs to eat with his son and then he made kdish there. He had made kdish downstairs and the lights went out and then he went and made upstairs a different house. Does that matter? >> There's there is a it's underneath your talks about that. Okay. [gasps] says next to you over here. If you made Could you see where I'm reading? You have to have a with your kdish. What's the reason? Where does this come from? Says it's in the gray over there. Wherever you're calling, wherever you make your kiddish, make sure that the is make and have there with it. Now, I wanted you to pay attention to the of the and is going to point it out. Pay attention. Flip to the next page. It's number two or five at the bottom. That one they printed back. They print they stapled it backwards. Now pay attention. Was that what Tisa said? It's the other way around. >> The if the and the rush use the same three words, but what they placed in the beginning of the sentence and what they placed afterwards is a I can only say it in makes a whole that makes a revolution. How so? The lion of the rush is where the is which sounds like the is the [snorts] make sure you have kdish with it. This is precisely what next page right this is precisely what focuses on. You see where this is? The is where you call Shabas. You have [snorts] don't make which means don't make just make a with your kdish which means eat something ma make it mean something right. But the you're doing is okay. On the other hand, that's what he says. But if you pay attention to the lion of the rush the rush the gear say and that's what the rat [snorts] what is the gear the lotion of the of the rash and it says shinish the anus But the of the [snorts] which means to say I want to tell you I'm saying this for myself but I think it's emis If you're mad, if it's a dinner in Kdesh, Shabas is leas the Indian of ineshabas is already holy and as we'll soon see the kdish of the day has less of a than the kdish at night. Okay, foss. Because you already make kadesh by night grad. Back where my yeshiva was in Bridgeport, there was a rabbi Epstein. He used to say the le shabas kdish on shabas in the morning. He would say the kdesh of in the morning. Do you know why he went over he said because some of my mispaleim didn't make kdesh last night for them shabas in the morning was the first time they were hearing kdesh you make a different as we'll soon see you only have to make a pri for shabas by day you don't have to say the hope sukim of kdesh do you know why because you're in mkish at night you're mkish at the kdish at night right But in all three times if there's a in the right if has to have kdish there's a to say if the shabas kishab kdish is the kdish so I don't have to have much of a suda but if it's aud and the needs to have a kdish can that there's no difference between the first suda and the The second one also has to have has to have the same >> about you already made you made already that day. You already made that day. If you go to any you see they make also right. So that that it's don't wonder right that people which make they say a different right that they make their own they do make kdish it says page number four eight at the bottom in the gro the The [clears throat] His was when he made Shabas by day, he did not skimp in anything. meaning he made with his not just Friday night but Shabas day also. I'm just adding that if it's a in the so then the of Shabas are by day and by night. You're asking if it's a in the there's a to say the day and the night are the same. They're both sudas. If it's a den in kdish, there's a very big difference between the kdesh of nightm and the kdesh of day. And let's take a see that you're on page number four. Let's take a look on it looks like this. You can make for somebody else even though you plan not on eating they're eating but for them it's their'll be the in general. [snorts] If you make a bur priyaguin to be might see them, do you have to drink? Can you make a burriyen and not drink? It depends what kind of bery you're making. Friday night in ch >> that is because I want to drink called cuz I want to be a mitzvah is going to explain says one more time we'll read it he can't make a unless he also asen is because of the kiddish responsibility the which means the of how a person normally makes kdish is you make kdish you makeen correct right you liked the kdish is a of the mitzvah the is a part of the mitzvah. So this although it's a but it's not a because I want to drink it's a because I have to make kdish says the and we'll see now in the bur the difference is if you want to drink not do a mitzvah so you're making a to have hano [snorts] how could you make a bra to have hano if you're not having hano even if you want to be miy somebody else but it's a you have to have but if it's av and the is that call is rais somebody else if he has a even if I've already made kdesh cuz his is on me too which in English means I don't have to drink it take a look inside in the mishnab you're >> making kdish with someone else doesn't that prove that the kdish has to be for the to make it. >> Well, well, we'll soon see a person wants to have Yes. If a person wants to eat something about what does he want to eat? If a person wants to eat something, you have to make kdish for him. So, he should be able to eat. Correct? Because he can't eat without kdish. But now the question is what is he eating? Is he eating something that he could be the kiddish? Or is he just himself? I just want to take a drink. I just want he likes some candy. He wants I just want potato kougal. I just want to eat potato kougal. What about mazo? What about mazo? You're not going to have any miso. You're only going to have potato kougal. Not so pit. Let's see. So first of all like this number one you want to do is so the den is if you are not eating right I've already been I can make a right I can even make a even though in a normal I can't do that. Here's what I just told you. You can't make a for somebody else. If you want to make a name for somebody, you want to just make a for someone and he should be with your and you're doing it because you just are thirsty or hungry. and he says with your going out with a non former person he doesn't know how to make a you want to be you need to eat too it's a no longer then it's considered the what's that letter you test the explains the mission of very important theoras in the morning is not right. It's very nice that you say that is so that which is a but because you're being in the morning becomes avail Yes. Therefore, he doesn't have a liked at night. When you make listen to this, this is great. Shabas the mitzvah of is to bead the day. The mitzvah of is to enjoy yourself on shabas. So the oig becomes a mitzvah but it stays in. So you have to have from it. It's the is the mitzvah. So it's a mitzvah to be mic and if you're not it's not a mitzvah to be mad. It's a mitzvah to be manic. So therefore in essence you have to go ahead and eat. Okay. So what [snorts] do we now? Hey, moving along. We're running out of time. >> Shabas can't shabas. Hey when we say right, what do I have to eat? The said if even if you ate just a little bit of you drank a cup that you have to make a what kind of does he mean to say take a look at the bottom reas like a re some people hold you don't have to Let me explain to what I what we just read. In order to be the mitzvah of you're going to have to drink a little bit more. You're going to have to have a re of and then the will consider that that you had a suda. Now continue page. This continues actually mu >> um a kazayas let's say >> of of potato. >> Why? Let's let's go watch take a look at page we're continuing page nine is the second side of this right. You have to to be you have to have he says but you cannot haveis >> right this is what it looks like that's right now says the mission peris and is also there you go right there. And also satiates other things are not aud when they go to a todish or they go to a brisma which means you're going for a kdish the cake right you better shouldn't eat anything cuz if this isn't audit kish only then you're not kidd hearish. So how are you allowed to eat? This is a big deal. >> Is that a sim? >> What are you eating when you go to the sim? So they put out those nice vegetable platters because everybody's on a diet and they shine. Yeah. And if that's all you eat, you weren't yikes. You were not yet. You were not yet. You know that nice little dip over there? They make etc. Beautiful shine. Right. And now he's telling you now this went next page. Page 10. This was which past the fact that you're eating on shabas that gives it a does not work. A person doesn't feel well. He cannot eat. He can't eat cake. There's a sad to say that we can for where the whole of kdesh is already a lower level of kdish that he could be ya for it. Now let's talk a fellow doesn't want to drink the wine. If you drink a raas of wine, then you'll be because will do it according to that means it's it's hurtful for that person. That's good enough for Paris. Why? Because that's a sudo. You can't eat it because it's difficult. Push yourself. If it's you, you have no need to be mazic yourself. But if it's a little bit hard, go ahead and take a drink. When is this most Take a look at this page. Second column. The is saying the you have it over here. >> Second paragraph says you need to have two right. It's actually it's talking about and it's not mostly we don't have everybody goes home there are some places we'll What do you give and then you have giggle potato giggle, right? That's not that's that's that's not that's not audition. So listen to what he said. He owes that are called You don't have a choice >> because you don't eat that food. So this becomes [snorts] in the previous paragraph he wrote that when a person's is to eat something and that is his so then you could be this is called his so on in the morning but you can't eat any cake and you can't and a person isn't going to drink and let's say it's maziko reas of yan right so he wants to be kesh he'll have such an so let's summarize what do we have question is can when he makes kdish we started off when he makes kdish and he had he had mus he didn't do that he heard the shir he didn't have just the fruits he had mus was kes and now when he goes back home, does he have to go to make kdes again by a suda? So now if the family did not hear kdish yet push it, you make kdes and you're good to go. Then you have no problem. That's simple. Okay. What happens if they were in they also heard kdish? It depends on the we're talking about. If you learn that the of is a in the that you have to have aud and the is the in you didn't have a suda you didn't have a suda so maybe you were maybe according to those otheras you were that you had kish with something right but your didn't happen yet and since your suda didn't happen yet now that you're making your suda now you make kdesh but if you hold it then in the kdesish that the kdish has to have a it's not my kdish had a you want to make a pri when you come home you make a pri but you're not making kdesh anymore and therefore according to those opinions if you are making in your house and you were already in then this isn't kdish anymore then you have to drink then you'd have to drink because now you're making because now let's right Because now this becomes a it's not a kdish because you already so best the we just we saw a few moments ago the would only make a day with means it stayed clear I don't think he I don't think he did anything in he went home he just did it in the house I'm like that that's what he did but if you have been a bias that didn't hear kesh yet so then it's a beer So even if you make kdish and you don't drink, you're good to go, right? Because it's avas. But if they heard kdish, and by the way, if they heard kish and they ate cake in because if they heard kdish, they didn't eat, then they still weren't yet. Then the gornish, they also weren't. So then you make kdish them, you make kdish with them. So it's a okay.