Rabbi Avrohom Reit Shofar and Lulav Presentation at Scheiner's Part 1

Um today's program >> is >> um >> good morning. Today's program is divided into two sections. One is we're going to talk about shy. What's a good shy? What's a kosher shaer? What's what's not a kosher shaer? And the second section will be about okay. So we'll go quickly through this um part. Where doers come from? which kind of animals the shaers come from and the most famous shaer comes from the the ram. It's a It's good that people should know what a ram looks like and what a ram horns look like because once once in a long while the question comes up where did this horn come from? 99% of all shyers that are sold in the market in the stores in the Judeica stores are all from rams. There's a very small number that come from goat. Mostly they're not sold in generic stores because they're more expensive. They're sold only in specialty places. So that's your basic rams one chaer. You've seen that they're all over the place. Chaers also come from goats. And that's a goat chafer. They make a slightly different sound. Some people find them easier to blow because just how they're made. Their their mouthpiece is a little bit different. Professional musicians who are used to professional music pieces are like like the um the goats chaically a goat chaer probably it's cauter 100% that's not the question the question is whether or not it has the milo of remembering and it probably is not as as a ram horn. So you you want to use a ram's horn unless you feel more comfortable blowing this then you would um use a goat horn. This animal here is the ibeck. Ibex is was called in eur that's the English name for it American name. The European name for this was a Steinbeck. Ashin a Steinbach Steinbach actually a Steinbach is a is a mountain goat. A stone buck is a goat. A stone goat. It's a mountain goat. The Mishna in Rashashana talks about the yo that the the horn of a yo is a straight horn. And Rashi says the yo is the stein book and the horn is not very straight. We'll get to that in a second. But the mission says that there is on the hold that's the proper to use. We don't pass like that. The ram better to use a ram's horn. But there is a T in the mission that says to use the horn of Steinbach. And the reason is because it's straight. Look at the next picture. Again, they're not very straight. But when you look at the horn itself, the part that could be used for blowing, it's not nearly as curved as the picture before. I wouldn't call it ramrod straight. I wouldn't call it super straight, but when you compare that to the picture that we saw earlier of the of the of the ram's horn, this is a straight horn. In comparison, this horn is straight. It's not perfectly straight, but it's definitely straight. Look at that one. It's the same horn, just a different angle. It does look pretty much straight. And this, the Mishna says, is a y posh. the straight horn of a yol which the ta compares to the picture we saw earlier the cough of horn of a of a um ibex horns are not very popular they're not very common they do exist as you see this one um this one I this specific one I actually got the picture from the to museum living tour museum in Burough Park they had this horn and that's where I took the picture It's not a very popular thing to make a shif out of ibex. They're very hard to find, hard to get legally. It's very hard to get one. So, you're not going to find it in the stores. Now, this animal is called a kudu. K U DU. It's an kind of antelope in lives in Africa, parts of Asia. And look at the horns. Here's another kudu. This is actually animal called the greater kudu. And that has that familiar horn that was sometimes called a Yemenite chaer. You see the guy in in the postcards, he's blowing this kind of horn. And this horn is again it's kasha for cha. It is kosher because the says that any horn anyher of any animal is kosher. That's the maba says. But in order to get the mile of the and that the after the found the the you're not going to get this on the on the on the kudu. One other problem with the kudu is that the Rambam says the Rambam says that the only horn which is kosher is the Kev is the horn of the Kev. The Kev is a sheep. The Ram says this horn is not. Now why the Ram says that that's the T is about this. I'm not going to go into that that background but and the doesn't like the RAM that all horns are kosher. But if you had a choice between two horns, why would you want to use a horn that the Ram says is not kosher? I call upon him. This is the horn of the kudu. It's a popular horn. You see it around. They do sell it. They they they're expensive. They cost a few hundred dollars to buy such a horn. And it's kasha. Yes, they're different. The way you blow it is different than how you blow a regular. So people that are good at blowing chaur might have a harder time blowing a kudu. This animal is the big horn sheep. The big horn sheep is a kind of wild sheep. Its horns are not very accessible. They're very expensive if you do get one legally. And yes, you could make a chaer out of this. A friend of mine um received a this as a gift. He traveled in Europe someplace. He did a guy a favor and the guy made him a chaer. It's too hard and too sorry too heavy to actually hold such a chaer and blow it in shul on rasha. You couldn't blow you could you couldn't blow that 100 times. It's very very very heavy. But it's a horn. It's a horn. It's a sheep's horn. It's a wild sheep. It's a wild A wild sheep is probably also called a sheep. And therefore, it's probably also to use it for a shash. It's not practical, hard to get. They're very heavy, but it probably cost. Let's move on. This is a water buffalo. Water buffaloos have been around in the kosher market for a very long time. Um, it's a kasher animal. Water buffalo in is where the original mozzarella cheese was made from water buffaloos. The original real real mozzarella cheese, not the kubai today version, but the kubai in Europe is made from water buffaloos. And it has very large, very hefty horns. And you could make a h a shaer out of it. And once upon a time I had a water buffalo horn and I considered making into a shaer just to the stick of it. In the end I just donated it to the living toy museum. Um what is the water buffalo in Hebrew? So the parish on the every once in a while the uses a unusual word and there's a somebody wrote in parentheses the t of those words in either Hebrew or Yiddish. Exactly who wrote it and when it was is debated among the scholars but it's been around since the second or third printing of the notab's lifetime but the printed after that it's been around for a very long time in the says there's an animal called that the suffic and therefore with a um without a and the perish of the says what animals the koi It's the It's the water buffalo. That's the parish says. So, this is the animal they're talking about. I guess once upon a time, people ate this animal. This is a deer. Deers have a kind of thing on top of their head that we might call horns. If you're into your anatomy, you might call it an antler. No difference what you choose to call it. It's not the same kind of material. It's not the same kind of thing of the horns we've been talking until now. All the horns we're talking until now and I'll show you pictures coming up soon are made of two basic layers. The outer layer called their sheath of keratene. It's like the same kind of material you know you're familiar with it at the traers are made of and inside layer is a bone. This is a antler. Antlers are plain bone. Many animals that have anththers also have a skin growing on top of the bone, but it's basically just a bone. There is no outer layer, no sheath of keratin, which forms a chaer. So the say that if you took a horn such as this, the antler of an animal that was solid and didn't have two layers and you were to drill a hole through it and make it into a a um a blowable instrument, it's not kosher. It's not kosher. I'm going to say later there's a kumar that we have to understand properly in order to know why that's not kosher. But we're going to get to that later. Anyway, this is a plain old deer and it has a antler on top which would not be acceptable. Not be kosher. How do you make a shaifer? So shaer that's a goat head. That's the skull of a goat. It's the two horns as they come out of the head of a goat. Move on. That's again a goat horn. It's been cut off from the skull. And you see that there's an outer layer. You see the ring and then you see inside you see regular bone. That's the bone. Take partly coming out totally out. That's the That's it. So the outer piece the on this picture it's the top part. That's the piece that you use to make a shaurher. Any animal that you can use to make a shaur has has these two parts. A inner bone, which is what the part which is attached to the head of the animal. And that's what's really on tight. And animals that use their horns for fighting, whereas a weapon, it's on pretty tight, and it's it's attached very well. That animal can use it for fighting and not injure itself. And then there's the outer layer which is the sheath of keratin which is called chaer. What does the word chaer even mean? I know if you say if you say the put they use the word to be shapier that's they use in the puter is a Hebrew word it appears in ksh and shapier is a araic word and it's you're a python and you're writing put that's an acceptable usage of the word but that's not what the word chaer means chaer is the idea of a shiferis a tube meaning the word means the outer coating. That's the T of the word. You're trying to say that the word means the outer coating. That's the simple T of the word. It's the outer coating of what? Of the bone that's inside it. So using a we're using the outer piece. Any animal that you make you can separate the inside from the outside you can use for and that's what the Gumar said and that's what the said before that a deer which only has we would call the inside it only has the bone part you can't use for good now what's the talking about I said you have to know the says if you let's go back a second here if you take this picture and you would drill you wouldn't remove that bone piece like my next picture you would take this piece there and just drill a hole through it is a you drilled a hole through the that's called that piece in the language is called if you drill a hole through that it's the says it's so you see I you left the bone inside says it's the same min it's it's the same men as It's not a okay that's great but but the I'm not I have I'm blowing into the bone but that says no you're really blowing into the means means you're blowing into the you're blowing into the and the bone part is just not a but if you just use the bone if I would if I just use the piece over here in the bottom if I just use the bone that is not the chauffeer because that's not the means the outer layer that's not the and that's why it's not good. So if I going back to the picture of the deer if I only have a what's called the inside the zak I only had that kind of piece only had the bone and I would hollow that out that would not be because there's no cha part to be blowing in. Okay, so this this is a common question of all the phone calls I get about charis and we're taking a quick second to interrupt to make an ad for the books. On the back table I have over here two books that I wrote about chaer. These books are primarily about how to blow the fascinating books and you should take a look at them. I also have the book I wrote about everything you want to know if you about when you're not the and the third book I have in the back for sale. The fourth book of is if you dash it's the best out there. If you darland or whatever any other glitzia it's not going to work for you. If you digit it's the best out there. Um we'll talk more about that but anyway what makes apostle so of all the questions that people call about is they want to know how do I know my is why my isple and there's one very short line about that in the Mishna and a lot a lot a lot of discussion about that in the so at the end of the day what makes something a puzzle it's not so many things that are practical that you have to think about and worry about on your personal that might be kosher apostle. There's a few examples of things that I took pictures that most of these pictures I'm going to show you now of I got from Benny Atinger. Benny Atlinger was the bakea in Bruyers Washington Heights for about 50 years and he wrote two books on his own about charis and he is fascinated by cha and he no matter where he goes no matter what he does he's always finding something interesting about charis he might be on a on a cruise in Alaska I don't know if he does such things I'm making that up but if he'd be on a cruise in Alaska he'd be on a remote island over there he would find a shaer and have an interesting story about it. I know that because if you read his books, he Yes. Over 50 years he had thousands of questions and thousands of interesting and things that came up that he as many go ahead. >> There's an animal called the prong. >> Yes, he writes about that >> and it it cipher every year and it's a real cipher. It's got bone. >> Yeah. Yeah. He wrote an article about that was printed in one of the magazines like 5 years ago. >> Would that be he wrote an article on that printed 5 years ago? I I don't remember which magazine. I think it was Mishbah, but I don't remember which magazine it was. It was I think five years ago. If you need his phone number, you want to call him later, I can tell you. It's not in his book. Okay. What makes a what can go wrong with a make a impossible? Well, the first thing the Mishna says a cow's horn is possible. So even though a cow's horn meets all the conditions that aher that we spoke about earlier, it's possible. The gives a few different reasons why the cow's horn might be possible. One reason is because it reminds of the that's the most popular reason. That's the most well known, right? It reminds of that. Okay, that's one thing. But the also says I wish I had my my my laser that it looks like it's made out of two pieces. It looks like it's made out of two pieces. and it looks like when you blow it looks like you're holding two which is a different case in a Mishna that if a person put one inside another depending on how he actually did it there are some cases where that would be possible and and therefore it's on the horn of a that always looks like it's made of several layers that it's possible okay but anyway here you got it here's the horn of a cow that looks like it's made of two pieces. This was a young cow, so therefore it's small. But a bigger cow would have the same thing just in bigger. Okay. Um this line, this line from the screen um is interrupting my picture. I apologize for that. Nothing to do about it now. But right over here, you see um actually maybe it's helpful that line from the screen that it bicts a line in the chaer. That line in the shaer is a crack. Most likely the shaer fell. It hit something hard from a high place and it cracked. The chaer cracked. That kind of crack I I I saw the crack. That kind of crack goes all the way through the layers of the chaer. layer it could be um quarter inch thick could be thinner it could be thicker and if the crack goes from the outside always all the way to the inside in that direction that direction is the length of the direction the is always possible that's the mish says the bottom line said there's a lot of discussion there the bottom line is the says a crack like this which is a lengthwise crack that goes from the mouthpiece up from on the that would be hidden on the left side up towards the right um that would always be a puzzle. Not all cracks are the same. >> Here again, it's right around that line in the um in the screen. There's a crack going, we call it widthwise, even though the angle of the sheaer doesn't let you know that it's a widthwise crack. That says it depend where on the sheaer it is. If it's on the first teac which is closest to your mouth the part the person blowing it'll be pos but if it's on the end of the towards the top which is more than a teak away from your mouth the picture is what it is that's the picture I had available but I don't I'm assuming that it was probably more than a tak away from the person's mouth so I'm going to take a guess that this is a kasher the crack is kosher not a problem because it's more than more than a tap from the mouthpiece. A B is that it's a widthwise crack, not a lengthwise crack. Okay, now this is a little bit more complicated. Which kind of crack? Do you see the crack over there? Right. It's it's shaped like an L. Which way does that crack go? >> Right. So, what do you do with it? So I have a I have a simple solution practically how to save the and I maybe I have pictures of that later but um what do you do with it? Um I would assume that understanding the reasons in why the different kinds of cracks are diff are um are one's kosh one's ple I would say this is kasher why what why what's wrong with a lengthwise crack a lengthwise crack mish says is going to continue to spread and eventually your sha is going to is going to split it's going to separate and you're not going to have a shaer you won't have a shaer left altogether so therefore if it's lengthwise Doesn't matter where it is, it might spread and before you know it, there'll be in a problem area and therefore it's always possible even though it didn't spread yet a width wide crack. If it spreads and that part of the falls off the lower part still will be the kasher and therefore it's kasha. That's what she says. This piece, if it would continue to the way it is now, if it continue to spread, it's going to spread um widthwise. And even if the piece came off, the rest of the would still be a kosher. >> Um in the original, I have many more pictures of this. In the original picture, it definitely went through here. I think this is the same. I think this is the same picture. Yeah, it's going. >> Yeah, I think that's the same shaifer. It's the same thing. It's it's going through. Okay, this is of the problems and cracks in shaers. This is a common issue. This is a very old chaer probably. I mean, I know who the shaer is. I know where it came from. It was my mother's uncle cha that he bought from Europe. Um, and it developed a crack on the on the tip. That's that's common old old chase they can get just from age or from getting banged up they can develop a crack that's a lengthwise crack and that's going to be a problem. So that would be a problem. So what's the solution for this crack? Sandpaper take a sandpaper or a pen knife and cut out the crack. So you're going to lose about an inch of your I don't know maybe that's maybe that's a quarter of an inch eighth of an inch. And a bigger problem is that the mouthpiece of the chaer is designed to make it easy to blow. And if I cut it, I would have to um I would have to uh what you call I would lose the mouthpiece. I have to send it to a professional who's going to reform the mouthpiece to make it blowable. Um it's only worth it to do that. It's expensive. It's only worth to do that if it's your great uncle Shaer that you brought from Europe or it's your favorite Shaer or you like the size or the color or whatever reason you it's important to you. But the usually um buying a new shaer is cheaper than getting the mouthpiece fixed. This is the same thing you see in the top left. Hey, got a got a got a piece over there nicked. So that's not a crack. That's a nick. Nicks are not the same as cracks. Nicks don't spread. Therefore, nicks are cauter. This surfer is cauter the way it is right now, but it's be very hard to blow. It's going to cut into the guy's lips, and that's his business, what he wants to deal with it. I would just say get a little bit of sandpaper, smooth off the edge, and keep and move on. This this picture I took in the store. That was a shifer that was for sale. What happened to it after I took the picture, I don't know. But that cha is not cautioned to begin with. Okay, two things at this picture. First of all, you see there's a little nick in the bot thing over there. That's again that's a nick. That's not a crack. That's kosher to begin with. But what happened over here was that the chaer had a bigger crack in it. That would have been problem. The what the person did was he took a very sharp knife and he cut a piece off the sha. This is the top of the sha is now a little bit shorter than it used to be. It's missing the fancy design that it came with originally, but the was kosher. Either he didn't do a good job or he or another crack developed another little bit developed. But the bottom line is he took a pulleer that had a crack in it and he cut off the crack almost like a millilia would do. He cut off the crack and now he doesn't have a cracker anymore and it's a kerifer. Okay, even that little bit over there is not a crack. It's a nick and nicks are not a problem. This picture I got from Benny Atinger and he found the shaer in some shul someplace and you see it's full of holes. Um worms got into the shaer. They made holes in the shaer. Holes are not a cashous problem of the sometimes some if the hole does not change the sound of the it's not a problem. This now how do you how in the world did you know if you discovered the with the holes in it? How would you know what the original sound of the Shaifer was? That's anybody's guess. But if you owned the Shaer and you knew what it sounded like last year and now you discover has holes in it and the sound is the same as it was before, then it's kosher. Now, something interesting about holes is that a hole when it's there and it didn't change the sound, it's kosher. However, if you fill in the hole and you don't fill it inly correct, meaning you use putty or something plastic or something to fill in the hole, that's a bigger problem than the actual hole. That's again, that's the same just close up on the hole. That's that's another I got from Benny Atlinger. And this one I got from the person who is involved with the onif. This is one of the shaers that he found that had something wrong with it. I don't know. Nobody ever bothered scraping out down to find out what the real problem was because the picture with the putty in it is worth much more than knowing why whoever was put the putty. But somebody putty inside the Now if there was a hole and you stuffed the hole with the wrong materials that says that's a that is not possible. If you if you saw if you close the hole with not Minoi a different min that that is now apostle. So this is possible. In fact the person who who found who discovered the who bought the he brought it to and that's when the this is the story 20 years ago. That's when the got involved with giving they didn't get involved in it was this person and this that started the whole thing about this is a story about 20 years ago that's what he got to get involved and and if you ask a guy why do you need a so they're going to go back to this story people know the full story they don't know the full story but they're going to go back to the story that sometimes there are holes there not it's not a common thing but they're there go ahead If you put your finger over the hole as you're blowing, do you tell if it changes the volume, changes the sound? I >> I never experimented with that to know. I'm not musical enough to know about that. That would be you have to be like a a real musician to understand that. Okay, let's go on. What's with that little spot over there? You see it next to the guy's thumb? So, I took this picture. I wasn't sure myself if that is just a discoloration because chaers have discolorations and they can have rough spots and they they get banged and animals are in the wild. They fight with each other. They do get bangs and they do get like scars and I wasn't able to tell. I I sent it to the professional but the picture not the greatest picture and I couldn't tell. But the point of the point of the story is does the problem exist? Yes. Do you have to be alert to it? Yes. Is it a prevalent problem? No. Meaning you could go to a store, a regular Judeaic store here in Muny, and you can look through hundreds of shy and you won't see anything that's a problem. And then once in a while, if you spend enough time in the store, you're going to find something which is a problem. >> If you have a hole and it's going to be new, meaning you grind a little bit another sulfur and a little crazy glue when you stick it in. >> No, without the crazy glue. First of all, you don't need the crazy glue. Second of all, the crazy glue itself might be an iminoi. So let's leave out the crazy glue. His question is if I have a shaifer with a hole and I melt cuz you mix you can boil a and it will melt and it will come like glue and you can cover it with paste. There is a person in far away that used to do this. You charge money for it. They did it. It doesn't really really work because eventually it pops off anyway. But some people it's their prize. They want it fixed. it's worth it to them so they can patch with it. The answer is yes. Practically the answer is don't waste your time. You're going to spend a lot of money. You're not going to get your results. >> So I have a question. That crack that you're showing >> the one in this picture. >> Yeah. It might not be a You have to How do you know when to the other side? >> How would I know? Yeah. So the person who that I would send it to has lights like lights the kind of things that a plumber might use like a light you can stick inside a pipe and you can see what's going on and you go look from the other side and you hold you can hold it up to the sun sometimes it depends what it is you could feel it you can sometimes if you know what you're talking about you feel it you could scrape it >> how you were saying before where the crack is the wrong way that'll be tussle right >> it's only if it's shows up on the other side >> that's correct it's if it goes through and through cracks are cracks are a prevalent issue and not every person's going to find one, but it's it's a sh that comes up um five I I hear the question five times a year. Not necessarily the shadows come to me, but then that I hear the question a few times a year cracks, but these things are are much less common. Much less common, but you have to be alert to it. These are the topic of this part of the program was what can make a sh apostle. The answer is this is something makes shel >> crazy blue on top of the match. >> Is that okay? >> Okay. So that we're about to get to that in a in a future slide. Um so let's wait for that. So over here the problem was that he sealed it with let's move on to the next thing. This is another I found in the store. Um, what's that stuff? That white stuff. It's looks much worse in the blown up picture on the screen than it looked in real life. In real life, I wasn't sure if it was just a discoloration. The I mean, eventually I decided that it was a problem. But when I first saw it, I wasn't clear it was if it was a discoloration or if it was actually somebody put something in to seal the >> hal. Right. Right. that that for sure not that. Um I have another picture of the same thing. There's two different things over here. One is the right side of the picture. You see the white area here which may have been putty. And over here you see in deep inside the tag. So it's two different things. The putty if it's putty it's putty. It's a problem. If it's the the tag in the back means that the guy who drilled the shaer made the mouthpiece was not very competent and he didn't clean up after himself. And this is not such a uncommon thing. Cheaper sha um often have these little tags. In fact, I'm going to give you take a break for one second. And that's so a tag. A tag is not puzzle. Those tags hang are not puzzle. It's just it just interferes with the quality of the sound. If you care that your should sound like a balta that people can go home and say we had a balt and sura knew what he was doing or that sounds like he was a frog. So that's that that little tag is going to interfere. You know, a whistle. Things blow like a whistle because they're polished. This little toy would get rid of that tag. And also, I can use this to polish inside of your when inside the is smooth, you can hear the sound, the difference in the sound. Another thing that can make the impossible is if it's too small. The Mishna it's brought in that it has to be a that's 4 in. That's more teac is 4 in. That sha is 4 in because coin to the um Oh, sorry. That horn is 4 in. It's not a I apologize. If you cut off the tip to make it into, you're going to lose part of it. And even though right now it's 4 in, that's good to um you lose a little bit. So you you might still have a but then you have to deal with your about what the share is. My understanding was that when you hold the chauffeur like to whatever degree the chauffeur has to >> there is a lotion like that in a >> you hold the chauffeur in your hand and you cannot see from either side that there's a chauffeur there >> right the guy for his hand >> right that's that is there brings but is no this as you can see one side of it was painted and it also has a hole. So the hole we spoke about already, but do it the um the paint the says not to paint the because putting an a something on the outside of the he says specifically paint I know what kind of paint they use in time but the paint could alter the sound of the and if it alter the sound of it's possible. So that's what the says. So even though how often does the paint alter the sound of the chaer our paint I don't know um mosters and I'll show you in the next picture mosters come with some kind of sticker whether it's a hexra sticker or an advertisement for the company um what's the deal with a sticker but the makab have the same problem with stickers if you had a problem with paint we have the same problem with stickers most are polished Most are polished. It means they take some kind of putty and they rub it or wax and they rub it onto the surface of the chaer. Is that a is that is that the same problem? So obviously not because 95% of all commercially available are polished. Okay. Um but there's a difference in polish which you can't feel is not and paint which you could feel would be a so I can hear there should be a difference. So your question earlier about um about um crazy glue. If you covered the with crazy glue what would the deal be with that? So that would depend on how you deal with stickers and this how do you remove stickers? So the stickers of the the ones that the put on are meant to stay on that you can't take it off and move it on to you can't that it shouldn't fall off the cha you can't remove it from the and that you can't um put on to a different chaer. So the way you take off stickers from shaers is WD40. >> They look nicer. I I don't have with me. All the shaers here are polished. I don't have here with me my unpolished strafs. They look different. It looks It looks off. >> Um >> I don't know the difference in this house. >> I don't know the difference. >> Aesthetics. >> It's it's purely aesthetics. >> What you pay more for? Polish. All surfers are polished. All >> All anything you want commercially. >> I can blow. >> Okay. >> Buy the cheap one from Bingo. >> If it has polish on it, >> it's not a it's not a on your lip because in polish is not a It doesn't It sure doesn't change the sound. For sure not. >> Okay. But most commercial chaers have a sticker on them. And if it has a sticker, I advocate to remove it. Not just because it looks ugly, but because I have a have concern about it. And therefore, the way to remove it is with WD40. Okay. The next part of this of this slideshow is about mouthpieces. What the people who make shaers know and the people who do shaer training know but the people who sell shaers don't know is that every shaer has a different shaped mouthpiece. Why do they make shaers with different shaped mouthpieces? Because just like two people don't smile the same way. Everybody's lips curl and curve differently. Everybody's lips will match better with different kind of sha. And when one guy tells you, "This sha is a great chaer. Put on your lips. It will blow perfectly." And the other guy says, "I can't blow a sound out of it." They're both right. It had to do with not the but with their lips. And you could go, you want to blow, it could be like you're sitting in the room right now, you're saying, "I never got a sound out of a shaer." It the problem might not be you. It might be you always been trying on your father's cha, the one you got for present, and that's just not the right shaer for you. There's um about 10 or 15 different shapes of mouth pieces. I have pictures of like six different shapes and just to give you just just to give you the idea that different mouthpieces of the sha are different and it makes a difference in how easy it is for you to blow. Makes a difference how easy it is you blow. I I have this all the time. people come to training and I carry a whole box because I have 10 different shapes to try out what what what um what works. So just look at the different different shapes. You'll see that they they're all different. >> What's the one the same there's the same and different all apples are apples. No two apples look the same. that all mouthpieces are are more or less mouthpieces, but no two are really the same. And it's on purpose that way because the people that make the know that what I just the secret I just told you that different people's lips um form differently. Okay, I think that was the end of this presentation and it's 11:15. We're supposed to get a few minute break between till the next one. Um any questions? If it's a wider mouth piece of how much hair you have to put out or >> it might make a difference. Yes. But the wider mouth piece is for the guy who appreciates it and the narrow mouth pieces for the guy who appreciates that because yes, people naturally blow harder and softer and people naturally blow bigger holes on the lips and smaller holes on the lips and yes there's a lot of things that go into the and if you want to know the entire it's all there in the book. >> How's it? >> One second. Is it a rambomifer? >> The ram there are people who call it a ram sha. They have a lot of other names for it depends on who's marketing it. But there's no in the ram that such a exists. It's it's somebody's imagination that the raom says such a thing. It's imag purely imagination. There's no place in the ra talks about it. >> The raom I'll tell you the raom says the ram says you have to use a sheep's horn and all the horn is kosher. So this person who's no longer alive, he died about 25 years ago decided that if the ram hold you have to use a sheep's horn. It must be you have to use a sheep sworn exactly the way it grew on the sheep. >> Go ahead. >> They do. >> They do all kinds of things to it that they don't tell you about. Next. >> Yeah. I write I bought a shifer that had a bad on it. >> No. And it was a very expensive shape. I was very excited. >> And >> and then I took off the badat sticker and under it there was a big nick. >> A nick. A nick or a hole. >> It looked like No, it looks like >> it didn't go through. >> It looks like a like a thing. So >> someone was saying that the guy was on purpose. He put it there so that >> so that I shouldn't see. But someone else said maybe they put it there to tell you that they're capturing it. >> They want you to know that it's kosher. I >> I don't know your specific story. I do know that the people that I deal with that are the people behind theat they're not they're not theats they're importers but they import are very people they would never do it to trick you and if you bought it from that person and you'll tell me private later 100% you should bring it back to him and he will definitely change the for you no question >> probably like that >> that's your decision >> the thing is Professional decay. >> Go ahead. >> Is it a different >> 100%. The professional decay is because he has his favorite chaer. And I happened to be me this morning. I was in a show this morning and they needed to blur and I refused because I don't want to ruin my reputation and take the and it'll take me three tries and to get it right. That mean I'm gonna ruin my reputation that I can't blow. No, I definitely I didn't do it. Yes. And the guy who did volunteer, he took him three tries until he got it right and he broke and he messed up on the shows because he wasn't his favorite chaer. >> Does it change the actual sound any mouthpiece? >> I don't know. I never I never took a shifer and changed the mouthpiece to know if it would be a different sound if it was a different mouthpiece. Different shies make different sounds. Absolutely. You can >> Is that what is that or not? Really? >> I don't know. I don't know. The answer is yes. Change the mouth, it changes the sound. >> Okay. >> You change the shape of the chauffeer, you can change the sound. >> That's for sure. The shape of the definitely plays a role. The length of the thickness of the walls, the the opening, the w the the opening of the bell, those things definitely make a difference. >> The between a hole and a crack or even foolish. So, what's the difference between if they're both shape? the shape. It's a long mishabur. It's not an easy read. I grant you that. But that makes that difference that the problem the difference is that a crack is going to continue to spread and a hole because it's it's circular it's not going to spread. M R says this. >> Is there is there this is not really this is more is there a like if I had a choice I'd show you first to use small not real but like like like what a set you can see on both sides versus a very large one and the sounds are pretty much the same to use a bigger one. >> I would recommend you use one that you can blow better. There's no difference in the size, shape, color. Doesn't talk about this. >> Is there related to you like white versus the dark? >> It doesn't say in Okay. Okay. I'm going to take a few minute break because we're going to start again around um 11:30 the next program. I think most >> theers in the box are also for sale. Anybody like the >> guy this guy is >> meaning >> cousin. >> A cousin. >> You didn't talk about actual You shouldn't talk about the sounds, right? >> No, that was not today's topic. I've done that here many years ago. All right. I see you took the pictures from the book. >> That's correct. >> You ask permission from the author. >> Um, yeah. Hopefully I >> How much how much is >> the is 35? >> How much? >> They're between 80 to 100. Every here is if you buy in a different store will be in the range of 150 to 200. But many of the shaers, the reason why you ended up with them have something unusual about them. Like this one is very thin. You can if you see you can see your fingers through it. So it's not no good. It's the reason if you drop it something it's much it's much easier to break such a shaer. >> Therefore if it says puzzle probably it is I imagine that it has a crack over here. >> How much money is it? There's a crack right over here, which means there's a little bit of sandpaper and I can tell this one is not for sale, but because I can fix it for I can fix the I can take off the with sandpaper. I can take off the crack and I'll have a cautious shower. Oh, one second. There's a crack over here. Maybe this is the No. >> So, >> no, this is nothing. >> No, there is a hole. Oh, no. There is a hole. There's a regular hole over here. >> It's a hole that cannot fussly set. >> It's not. Look at Look at it. It's It's a crack. It's a >> You can fix it. >> For this mouth pieces, I found the best thing is a wire wheel. >> You can fix it. >> A wire grinder. >> Yeah. Yeah. A wire wheel. Not Not a standing. >> No. Wire wheel just smooths it very nicely. >> Okay. >> They're pretty hard. And the wire wheel is pretty hard. And you just twist the knife. You don't shove it in. Twist. >> Crack on my shelf. >> I bought a bunch of bingo chauffeers and they all come with the mouthpieces are really sharp. >> Yeah. >> You don't spend much time cleaning them up. So I took them all on the wire wheel and cleaned them up so they're nice and they don't cut your lips every time you touch them. >> You have to have the same shame. You have to do the same stuff. >> No. No. >> No. Most choices are made by glam. >> Also I found that this polish >> they hit it with a buffing wheel. >> The same stuff you polish with. >> The spinning buffing wheel. They just >> Yeah, I know. >> There was a crack right over here. Right. Right over here. >> So we cut this out. >> We did a pretty good job. >> No, we also made the We also made the things. That's my brother. >> I know, Levy. I know. I'm working with him. I'm We're straightening out the show first. So, you have Yak show first. >> How you cut it off with a knife? With a knife? >> No, he didn't straighten this one. >> Did you straighten this one? >> Straighten this. He cut. I'm not letting him do it. >> I cut it off with a knife. >> He cut it. Yes. Come >> out. Dremel. >> How you cut it out with a knife? >> A Dremel. Dremel. >> What? What's >> Oh, here. I see. I see. Right here is the >> Yeah. >> And if I have This is putty. This is what? >> No, that's part of the sh it's it's it's >> part of the original. Yeah. That's normal. That that was my shy lift that if that picture I've seen this or that it looked different. >> Why is it not so common that the regulator >> Why is it not common to use it? Says he's supposed to use because what are the twisty ones? >> They're called kudu horns >> orite horns. They don't the real the the the in itself I in t in being a Yemenite in that way there's two different schools is that you call them the ones like the more traditional ones and the more in Yemenite not in Yemenite more modern the traditional ones would never use such a >> would never use a twisty >> no >> who uses twisty only >> only the the more modern people >> everyone Yeah. >> No, no, no. >> These they came from the same person that sells the but I told you why every one of them had that he didn't want to sell it to the regular people. So I'm selling it here for half price. >> What's the reason why they don't they don't they don't use why do they >> why they da that's all they had available. >> Uhhuh. I know just a minute. >> And how much are these? >> These are between 80 to 100 depending on >> continue please. I didn't mean to. >> Um my son-in-law >> Yeah. >> is Benny's cousin. >> Okay. >> Now are the prices listed on the on the >> No, no, no, no, no. On this far >> on the books. Yeah. >> Oh. Oh. >> I have two questions. What are the prices? Can you take zel? >> I can take zel. The phone number is in the is in the front page. >> You're going on the phone number, not the email from the >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And and the um and it's 25 for >> I have the um rectangular one. >> The one the one that the cover >> I have the white cover. >> The white. >> Let me pull over. >> What's the What's the best you can? >> This is how it comes off the sheet. >> Which one is um the cab? The caber is only on blowing becoming a master about like you're running for 500 people and the other one is everything else about chaer. Look at the cover. Everything else listening buying tips mistakes. >> Which one? >> The black cover. >> The black cover is everything else. >> Yeah, >> this this is a bang. I mean something happened the way it got banged and it's got mushed. That's it's regular but banged up. That's maybe why out of it and you never know the difference. >> Yeah, that's I just use sandpaper. >> But it doesn't affect the color. >> Exactly. Why that that wouldn't affect >> So there's a dude on YouTube or whatever. >> I don't sure that a Chinese dude make sure I make sure that it doesn't get um >> make sure doesn't get dirty. >> No, no, no. >> There's a cake over there. I want to get rid of this garbage. I just want to get the garbage out of the way. Give me a favor. >> Once it gets vibes, I can't sell it anymore. >> I have to wait for the cash. >> There's a dude I saw YouTube video makes the mouthpieces. >> I'm never going to be able if I get down. I don't >> actually he blows. They take a little tool and >> he blows again. Yeah. And he blows again. >> So there people that do it right here in Muny. >> Yes. So my friend, his brother Ben is your uncle. Third cousin great by the way first cousin. My first dime. No, >> you're also salt box >> on the side. >> How to make this up, but >> that's from the lane. This is part of the part of the >> Yeah, it's going to eventually come out. >> You see it's starting to come out. The little hole behind it. It's going to start to come out. >> When it comes out, you're going to have to use sandpaper to fix it. That it should be smooth or use this to fix it. >> That might be the why the was given to me. The whole box of that are like uh something epic something wrong with it. You mentioned about stickers. Initial they put on just cuz I guess they don't want to get lost >> on or during the L. >> I see it now. I don't know what they use on now. It's not saying it's >> so come back. Come back. Come back and ask what they do on >> the I don't know. I didn't see that specific sticker but in in general I would I would Yeah, I would think. >> Try to find if you want. I can try to general even though you're doing I wouldn't even put tape on it. Do I have like masking tape or anything? That's nothing. >> May I ask you what it mean? If it's blow on the big side, it's not allowed to be there. What mean? >> It's not your problem. You don't have to know how to blow it. >> What? >> It's not your problem. You don't have to know how to do it. >> Not so many people even even try to figure it out because you can't do it anyways. >> But I'll tell you the shot really. The shot really is he didn't blow from here. He cut it over here. Yeah. >> And the this is a he cut it over here and he blew from this way. And this side this side is the same. >> Yeah. A lot of a lot of I'm talking about what he as they squeeze it right that say that but that's not not all say I'm saying I'm saying a shot that works according to other that don't say he changed it. >> Good morning. How are you? First, I want to wish you >> I don't have I don't have money yet. Come back yet. Even if you're doing it for it doesn't get lost. It's not there's no at all to put something on it. >> Oh, no at all. If you want to know if you ask the what what head do they have he has to put the sticker on it doesn't say on the sticker you have to take it off before you blow >> it doesn't say it so they might tell you that this is not the same as they might tell you that I don't know I never asked them but is putting the stickers on put the stickers on these are big Jews and they don't write on the stickers take it over before you blow >> really be a big big issue they probably would write >> obvious that's that's what I would assume But they they didn't ask my opinion. >> And what if 11:30 something? >> Does it ever happen that a shape blow it grows an animal the other way that it's smaller or they all grow? >> It's not definitely not a normal situation. If it happen then you would be able to blow from the other way or >> you wonder if it's physically possible to blow from the wrong side from the white side. People do it. It won't sound Are you supposed to blow from the side that's supposed to >> Yeah. Yeah. That's >> That's what What if I say the bad side is happens to be bigger than >> So you'll have a hard time. >> Show them what you look familiar. >> How what we where do you know me from? >> I don't know. >> I don't know the answer. >> How much have these books? >> 35 >> 22. >> Oh, one second. This is the same. >> These are these are 35 each and this is 22. >> Okay. So, let me put >> Is there any of the books free? >> Free. Nothing is free. So I can't have anything as a gift? >> No. No. >> They're all They all They all full price >> on main. >> Actually, I want you. We want to go here. >> About relaxing uh things before you blow the shaer. >> I'll be there in a second. Yeah, I'm listen I'm listening to it here for air. Go ahead. >> No, it's fine. It's that for every person. If I hear a the face turns red, that means he's not blowing it right. Not the right choice for it. Right. >> No, it means it's not blowing properly. That's not blowing properly. >> That's not blowing properly. The face >> you're not. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> No. Now >> according to at least according to the schedule they sent me. >> Okay. I see it doesn't have any English. >> It does not have English. It doesn't need English. It's such a smooth read. It's like a pleasure to read it. Reading it. It's so easy to read. You'll see >> because you'll see if you if you basically go to regular t you'll you could you can get through with this. Also, I don't have time to right now. I want to move on. Okay. Okay, good morning. >> According to the schedule, we're supposed to move on now to the next part of the program. And um again, thank everybody who bought anybody who bought things and they're available all the different things on the is available for sale and you can have a chance to look at it when I'm done. This part of the program is supposed to be about ESRIG. The goal is to explain what an ESRIG is supposed to look like. In order you should know what to look like, look for this. I'm only I'm not going to go into super duperim. That's not the purpose of here. It's just understand the basics of what anarch looks like that you can learn afterwards and come up with your own decisions what you want to buy. We're going to start. This is a picture of the of the paradis in Bamesh. Right outside Bish. You're going from the back side Bish. You pass the paradis on the left side of the road. Um this is a picture of that paradise. Let's let's go into the paradise. The first and most interesting part of the esrig part that gets the most attention is the pitum. How does a pitum develop? What is a pitum? So this is your ess blossom growing on an ess tree over there in bish. No difference. And see the different parts of the pitum. Let's go. Let's go look. Let's let's zoom in on that blossom a little bit. That yellow line pointing at the green tip is what's eventually going to become the pitum. And the red arrow point at the green line deep inside the blossom is the area that's eventually going to become the assri. Um what happens what happened over here before this in the previous picture was just the pitum came out of the blossom and that's where the bees come and they put their pollen and they get the whole thing going. That's how the fruit develops. And once it starts to develop, the pitimum grows first.