Parshas Shekolim – The Mitzvah and the Minhag Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner from 2020

Shabbas besides it being paras it's also the first of the d parasum I would like to speak about this morning the text didn't go out the title I would like to speak about the mitzvah of weis as a of the mitzvah of so I would like to go into the mitzvah speak a little bit about the mitzvah about the mitzvah and a little bit about that we do there's a mitzvah it's listed in the mitzvah of the other to give a shackle every single year this mitzvah is a mitzvah only to give a shackle the is what we lay in a paris theem and the says the that we give every year went towards the the collection was to be able to use to be able to buy carbonis the carbon sour how was a carbon sour b michel [snorts] because it came from this collection of zackle that all of cl gave s was a carbon s that's what it came from depos says the you learn and that's learns a says that these allow for to give lesser to give more from this that the says that can't give more he says it could be that the is just saying is not a lot so Maybe he doesn't have to give more. Maybe we should say that should give more. So that apost says which means you don't have to. But since the also says and over you can't touch should mean what does it mean? That you don't have to give less. What would be that which means just like you don't have to give or you don't have to give less. What would be you do have to give less? So say means that he's not allowed he's of fori to give less than a or usher to give more he's the learns the pos coming to say >> what's this thing again the is that it's >> or what >> talking just about >> we're talking about in parisha that we lay this is the par of sash and there's a mitzvah every year to give a mash. We're going to see soon when we speak about the many that these there was three there was other as well. But the we're speaking about over here the brought in the mitzvah on that thera says you can't give more you can't give less. So the say it's not going on any other in general. >> Which which would it go? Yeah it's going on the So that smoos for itself in in general to daka but I don't I didn't see that somebody should learn that it's going in general but the rabban learns that it's going and the if you give less you give more there are two shas asked on this on the what the rabban is one of the shilas asked is why the ramban in minitzvas when he goes on the raom the rambom's minitz The Ramban says he left this mitzvah this. So why does the not ask that it's that's one in other words besides these to give a also not to give less not to give more. Why do you need this in the not to give more not to give less paper? It's in the in other words says give a if you give less than a says what's means if you add on now just to explain first of all it could be it's of lavaltigra if you give less than a shekele and also on the that's one but but that's the shil that it could be and not because says if somebody I mean that's he says three times he goes to goes he wants there's no doing the mitzvah more than once is not would be if you have fill in four parases four bim and you add on and you add on a to the mitzvah that's so here adding on to the whether a little bit more or you give a double you give twice a that's you will not be so that's not a sh that's what the Tory says even though you're not however you should still be careful you should not add on to the that's exact amount that you should give but what's Why do you have to come clay anyways? You can't you're not going to do it cuz of you but you meaning you if you get with the master although we explain why it might be yes it's cuz you're just doing it surprised but you still did master even if you give it but like if you do less master you didn't do master. So you have a good point. There's another Shila asked under Aman T left it out. There's another Shiloh. Why do you have to come on? Why does a Tory have to say if you have to give a not to give less? You're not giving five. You shouldn't give less. That's how you have to give a if you give less than a you didn't give. It's also a shy last. That's what you're asking. Why do you have to said he's a diff there are few other and this will be of the shim infam when you give the you can't give it in installments credit card and so on pay it you know you can't give the whole makle give part by part you know you put it to you at the end after a month you'll have you'll have the whole you can't do that you have to give the whole thing at one time that's the says when you give the you can't give it piece by piece you have to give the whole in one shot what's the cast of Mishna doesn't say what the mar of the rama we we have such a why should you not be able to give it in you know so the say for the says that he learns to now we're learning what the Raan says means that you can't give less than a talk means you shouldn't be from giving in one shot the sash that's the Rambam something I hear >> what does it mean in part? So what does it mean? like you asked before. >> Let's see because we said he's no of Shila. >> Another reason why a person would I'm just saying the way was more because of a person. So why doesn't mention it as the Rama was not in the lav. So we're trying to really say why there's no lav and adding also it's not a lav. It's just a well it is a lav. It's a lav. say >> I'm saying there's another reason besides the way it was said that maybe a person would want to give installments not financial or giving day after day like he said in there's a mitzvah it's I don't know if I'm weird the opinion is if you could give a dial to one person or a lot of a lot of you have to break it's harder >> right so I'm saying don't do it I don't know if that answers it but >> no so doing you would think you do a is >> no but we're going into doesn't mean that you should give less means you give it an installment so what's >> I'm saying >> with more installments >> you know how are we touching means don't give less amounts not that you're going to give less than a means you're going to give a little bit at a time that's it but at the end of the day you're going to give a change >> what says The nina has to be in the of shekel as opposed to giving a shekele and taking back over here in also says along these lines about giving an installment and that's what the when the says means you can't give the over amount of time which really comes out the doesn't know like that because learns means giving less than a but could be giving a little bit at a time. You could do the Marit Gazi asks on this. He doesn't he doesn't like the idea why you shouldn't be able to give a little bit at a time. He says just like you find you have to give five that if you give it that it's a problem. You could give the five one after the other. So why shouldn't you be able to give a part of the a shekele today apart tomorrow over installments. Why not? So therefore he learns it's to give it a one shot by also you should give the whole five one shot but it's not which means not like what we're saying told now that the of the is the says that he's alive but rather we're not going to go into but if if it's he says you should rather give the whole five and over here also the not just to give it but to give it all in one shot over here also the should be given all in one shot >> practically speaking wasn't a reason to give it so you should be able to count people wasn't that one of the reasons for to actually make a count of the people how do you count people if you have all these partial payments coming in >> so was it I I don't I don't think it was more but every year I don't think so every year there was a a count every year the collection was a collection >> so I always thought show has something to do with counting. >> We're going to get to it soon that there was a few the one that they counted which was for the crush there was three and paruma and that's what we do. We'll get to it shortly, but I think on a regular I think so every year they gave us for the Koopa to have to be able to bark our bonus. But you're right. If let's say you need a count of if you give it in in coins at least like that. So they counted the people they counted. >> But you're saying that even more not only you can't give it in installments. I mean you can still work that out if you give one coin then. But even when you give the you have to come you have to give one coin. You're right. They can't count. If you give nickels and dimes and pennies, you don't know how much >> total amount is divisible by a half. >> Uhhuh. You count here just to read a little bit of it also says this concept about not to give it together. He speaks also to give to you. You can't split it up. >> [clears throat] >> So in other words, even though one should give it all together over here also you should give one. So what do we have so far? of of giving once a year and as we see not to give less, not to give more, not to give it in installments. Maybe it's only part this which since it's a mitzvah it's to any god that's right from 13 years and older like anything a godly you become a god that's one of the says write again in which means from 20 and above. So does that mean that the mitzvah is only a mitzvah from somebody who's 20 and that's the and that's how learn the rav brings this when he in the mission so he says that our from is up to 20 so the learn like that later on the go that's the this mitzvah is a mitzvah only for 20 and above however The brings other brings the Rambam the Ramban as well as others that say that no the it's really from 13 like any other mitzvah and this that the Pik says 20 and above is talking about the Truma of Donim do a three trumas Rashi brings in a parish truma we're going to have it next week but Rashi brings to his three trumas It says the word truma three times in the parish. And the three trumas, what was the truma for that dan? That was just one time when they built the mishkan. There was another one time truma that was to build a mishkan. Anything you want you could donate for the mishkan. And then there was a third shroom of yearly and that was for the carbonas a yearly collection. So this that the PK says from 20 and above is not talking about the yearly collection of the forban that anybody from 13 and above is the talking about the bring it which the pisk speak about. First of all, it's in the we have a which we're going to get to shortly. We have a for that we have a and we give it purum. So when from 13 from 20 would be the same when we do the theo which the ra brings. Ramos says the mic to give an arm is from 20 and above. Why? Because the mitzvah itself is only for 20 and above. So the as well is al is also from 20 just a second. Just a second. We're going to get to the mic clearly. But the is from 20 and above the says that it depends on this. If you hold like from 13 from 13 as well brings this. Not really because we're already also even so we do this doesn't really happen but in the we do would depend what the essence of the mitzvah is that the mitzvah is from 20 and above. So on the 20 there's no also not >> what were the three her and then when they built the mishkun whatever you want anything you want to bring the a whole list whatever is needed for the mishkun >> whoever wanted no no no the makash the coined makash was relevant legab giving for the carbonus the general eneral collection. Anybody who wanted you could give more, you could give whatever you want. Truma in the beginning. Any material that you wanted to give, you could donate for the building for the cause of building the Mishkan. And why is master I want to speak I'm not going to cover that but we'll get to we'll get to the minute a little bit at least you know to handle and also three is one we're going to get to that hopefully just the 20 and above has something to do with the census also cuz like you see when they report on how many males above 20 and in the army is above 20 it was all tied like that >> she's saying for the county they're more than the collection a very clear nafamino of when the skull is from the age of 13 of the age of 20 would would be the following either was last year or two years ago. He was I gave a legab the d that musf ka musf now I have to be careful not to when the guys are >> that was last year cuz it was a leap year. Yeah. So is >> Oh, [snorts] very good. This is a new year. I made sure you know the we we spoke was either last year, two years ago. Maybe it was two years ago cuz last year it was a but we we we went through the the says that since Musv how was the brought was brought from the from the and since which means that the carbon mus women were not included they just weren't included because the money didn't come from them the sashke So says that it could that ladies are noting yeah the whole was a whole she the same sh would be up until the age of 20 the place can speak about it since the mitzvah of just like we said ladies on smite they don't have the mitzvah so if the mitzvah of only from a 20-year-old and above so it comes out from a 13 a 13y old baker a bra mitzah baker is not included in the carbon and if he's not included in the carbon he's not also now that's okay but would be about that's of course a 13-year-old would maybe not the speak about it They d up the culture of Frank others in in the coven of speak about it but they all come out for various different reasons that they are some even want to be it's clearly that a I'm sorry a from 13 to 20 could yes and be let's go now a little bit into the min so we covered of the mitzvah obviously it's a lot to talk about but This is in the overall of the mitzvah. It's only a collection for the carbonus. In other words, we can't do now and we have a box and we'll save it for when the bdash comes. We can't it's only when there is when there are you can't give less. You can't give more. And we discussed about the age from 13 to 20. if these are or not. Now that we don't have a B mikdash and we do not have the mitzvah, we l depending what the is I think I spoke about this a few years ago also. However, we do [clears throat] we give either by before we give three to sash >> per person. We'll soon see not everybody gives three. But where does the three come from? The three comes from as Rashi brings that there was three there were three trumas. There was a truma for building the mishkan. You can give whatever you want. He was a truma of building the mishkon the part of giving fadonim and then he was a yearly truma a third truma a truma that you gave a mash for the carbonis. So since there were three trumas to the three trumas for we give three per person. You come to you give for you for your wife for your kids. So you make a but threeack per person though what we read tomorrow shabas the mitzvah of is one we give three to the to the three chumas >> the other one Okay. >> [laughter] >> So it's just so the the three for the three theim I don't know if that's the meaning by the but the kafim says not to give three to give one the when they The minute Arab prob how many a shekele did they give? >> We give our value a little different. We have to give a real currency of silver >> like the like a like of a shekele of the >> Yeah. Whatever silver is worth now we have to give that [clears throat] portions of >> but not just to use a silver half a dollar you actually pay the value of that >> which is more than a half a dollar. >> Yeah. Much more like 13 12. So we have to make sure tak to have it for people that want to be mim I mean to have >> we still use three coins but we'll give more money. >> But interesting you're saying about the value but the says what why would you give three? We're doing a to the single the mitzvah of every single year. So that for every year that mitzvah that's only the shackle that we gave for the carbonus. So why should you get the other two s the ones for and sign the donations to build the mishkun that wasn't every single year it was a one time one time donation when they built a mishkun so says that you should only give one one so if it's if it's more it's a bigger value it's good anyways one and he brings that's also the goyan the goyan also says only to give one Is it universally accepted that it's the only half of the current currency? >> I think so. >> Wherever you are. >> Yeah, I think in it's um half a shekele as the half a shekele of their currency. It's just interesting to note that the goyan even though the says that the goyan says only to give one the I'm not going to go into of it but the goyan says that all the mitzvah all the nas of shackle and all everything they gave that was in the mitzvah of that we're speaking about now this whole morning about giving a half a shekele for the says the go that's we read because It speaks about the but the we give is >> so and therefore that's he says we only give one because we're referring to that one we're not even if we would give all three means if we if one of the three of the would be the yearly maybe you would give all three but once it's part of it you give three for the three of them but he says no it's neither of the three of the mak that we give for the just before concluding the the says that when we give the it's not it's a because we want to have theapor we want to have the so we give three the asks how why do you give three hold on the really what we're doing is only of the yearly collection action which was only one. So he says no the the giving is guard to remember to be says that even though it was only the first year when they built the league of three just to conclude in the in the concept of how many you give and to how many you give these are in there's a big cami last night but I'm just going to read the lion it's not even clear it's like a hard the thei it's not clear exactly but the let's see if I have the lion thei seems to say that maybe they gave three to maybe it's just I think the learns like that but I'm just I'll end offic of >> [clears throat] >> In other words, you give it three times a year. So what does he say that you give three others learn differently doesn't mean that they gave three times a year a does that what the means the on to the ra that says that our meaning is to give three to the brings this I didn't find he's m to this which would seem that gave three times and that's what we're doing three others learn I'm not sure who this is because the learn that to give three means to split the into three that goes into the discussion we had earlier today could you give a broken up in installments and that's what the isi says that you Maybe the shami later changes not to but I'll come upon him just to be Messiah over here the minus to give three says only one and the go also says one but there are says you give three and this is not the says that a person again have a wonderful shabas