NITEL - MINHAGEI HAKEHILLOS WHEN FALLING ON SHABBOS - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

Everyone has surely heard the minig by many to refrain from learning on however before explaining elaborating I want to point out that there's a misconception that people think that the concept and the minig of not learning Learning a nit has to do withimum. So before starting and going through the makyus and explaining what nit is all about, I would like to share one march. We'll get into it of the year. It was before the balm in 1639. He was nifa 1702 right around when the balm was born. was born around 1700 1698 and he brings the meaning of not learning a so it's before the yes that's the massid but just to understand even if your min is yes to learn it's for sure it's worth it to put in some time to see to understand what nl is why the minute came about not to learn a nlam as well also has a chuva about the was already later but was and I think and he also discusses the reason his reby's reason his reason so let's try to go over here in order step by step first of all the word nettle before understanding what nettle means but the word nitl is brought in reshin the true masses in a chuva speaking about and speaking about sending gifts which is a huge sha for itself and in the heading of the chuva to give gifts so it's important as well also as in Isaac to from the and his hog will get to it soon what he brings at but he brings n so the word nit already is not like a new high word it's already what is the definition of nettle what does nit mean so the true misades when bringing the word nitl he brings nitl with a to if you look around usually when n when nitl NL is usually spelled with a task he writes with a tough and as explained that that's the day that isu was hung other it's brought in other places also in regulara this is the safer it's a more safer as he brings and others bring the lion of that's the day when he was killed So that's the time NL NL is either NL he was hung or NL means he was taken. However, the question is that the garra the gammor it's not in all the gammoras. But in this gamarra, if you look, there's like a different uh it's written a little smaller. They added it back in. It was taken out. Gomorrah. They put back this gumra. The garra is speaking about a different shove. And the Gomorrah says the gar brings the gar says. So the gar says that was hung was killed of pes. So how do we say that he was killed now whenever we're going to get to it when NL is but nitl is not pes it's either December 25th so sedus sedus brings that there were two yus there were two is now in today's shir we're not going to go into that that's a more than a shir which I'm not even so familiar with but it's its own's discussion to know to understand the stand and the history what happened. One of the Yeshu were hung were killed on the day of the more famous understanding of NL is a Latin word of born truth is it's used Native American you go into the hospital these the natal department is talking is the babies so it's a word that even adapted in the American language lion when ish was born. So this is Masha first of all he was killed Araf Pes but he was born now Bleo he was born on NL though the history it's clear that he wasn't born these different shist when he was born in April and March it's pretty clear in the history that he wasn't born now but that's what it's meshian he was born and that's the lion of nl So we see we found the word NLim the definition of NL means either whenish died or when he was born the not to learn like I mentioned before in the is the safer of the his safer the on and when the says that a person is supposed to be every single day. On the bottom in his he says except for NL and it's on it has to be every single day. So on the bottom he says as we mentioned this was before the not to learn amongst many others in cubis has a nice brings some things of but he also brings this mig he says it's a mic by he brings this mic of not learning a nettle Why? Why not to learn a nettle? >> Why not? Why not? What's What's the reason? What's the time now to learn a nettle the rebi of theam says it's actually not murish but in the chuva theamifer when theamifer argues on his rebi disagrees to the reason you could understand from his conscious what he understood and he understood that it's what's the veil is that is was born a is not supposed to learn. So that's why we don't learn of that was born takes issue with this. He has two questions. First of all, okay, is he allowed to learn? We learned var's allowed to learn. So it should it shouldn't be an is you should be allowed to learn that part of the day should be mut and part of the day should be if it's if these a day it's the whole day n only goes till the night mix we say >> that's just in the morning but here >> one day you have mix the first day. >> So then it should be only a little bit first of all mix goes till the morning after that part of the morning here it goes till midnight >> I think leak it's clearly it goes till midnight >> what's the next day after >> no tish first of all tishov is very clear it's the full day of tish I'd rather get the question almost every year many times could you start learning after I mean whatever is onish is the whole day learning is brought in shass It's also the whole day but it's the whole day even a morning where do you find this by midnight everybody ends by midnight where do you find such a concept that it stops in the middle of the year the whole year >> what say the most important existence every day of the year >> so theam cipher says a very fascinating shot in the mig not to learn and he explains the following he says that the mig was the mik still is but as I heard in European countries it's much more with aarite laavd but they midnight mass they get up middle of the night December 25th whenever their holiday is they get up to go to to to they go to their tifla to the church they go midnight that's when they get up to go to pray over there. You have it over here also says theam this could be a kitri on clrol when it comes midnight we as cli are sleeping what I mean they learn the whole day they learn to get dark you go to sleep you get up early in the morning they're sleeping it could be a kit on cl so really what could have been done is to make a takana that the night of their holiday when they get up to all the we should get up and we should go to sh to learn to counteract the kit. However says the that's a problem just like we you get up before you eat not to be imagine all of gets up the night of their holiday to go to learn it looks like we're doing their mig it happens to me we now want to go into a church so we go to learn so not to do their mig it shouldn't look like we're doing their minn you can't make you can't make a minute to get up to learn. You can't do that. >> You can make a minute that there should be a learning um session the whole night. Like per night people can start or people start when they finish. >> He's saying they could have made it that you start not at 12:00, you start at 9:00. I hear >> midnight mass doesn't take all night. So they're there for a little bit and we're going to be there tonight. What's the difference? I hear but they could have you learned the whole night therefore the of wasn't that you now let to learn up until they said that you now let learn till if you can't learn you go to sleep and if you go to sleep you get up after you go to sleep you get up at to learn so it wasn't that they made a mic that you get up to learn at 12:00 they said you're not allow to learn at night and if you're not allow to learn till at night. So what do you do? So you go to sleep and not to waste the time. So you sleep early and you get up but understands there's no to learn on there is no it was a to get people to get up after to learn. So you can't learn to if you can't what am I going to do? I'm going to go to sleep at 11:00 at night and what am I going to do till 11:00? I'll go to sleep five, six, seven o'clock, get up at and then me's gonna happen to be come out is gonna be learning and it won't be a kick. >> Why do you spend the same time as them to take away doesn't have to be on the same day? >> I don't I don't know the kit. I don't know but if they're going the Sultan could say listen look the go are taking it very serious now midnight and we we asleeping so you're saying you could answer back I don't know like every every time but if it works if it works out the same night >> another reason so this reason is really a reason not that you're not to learn it's just the had to be able to get people to get up to learn after there's another reason brings this reason I think this reason is more or less famously known that on that night on that day and we don't want that when a person learns there's a lot of but the concept the concept is of then and we don't want that the of should go to that just to bring it out to illustrate it. One second. One second to illustrate this concept in the safer tar used to be a commonly used safer on it has a brisker and he says design se gimmel. We're going to speak a little bit more about it. the hems. But he says that a person should refrain from being with his wife Leo NL and as explained for the same reason because obviously being together is a concept of kadusha bringing down the shamas but alon this mus is brought in this concept to learn just to bring out the vart They say over from the Bab of Reb this that the Gomorrah says that you're supposed to listen to what say. So he explained al which is tora who smoil that it goes to the smoil and not the lord you should listen to them in the sar he says but I can't really I could say over the words not the full it's a kabala safer but the mitas he says is is that the isue has to do with clo them with the and what he says is very clear that he says the mitas was that when People used to come back from learning at night. They found dogs in their house. B invited that the learning has to do with giving over to the kipa and that's the next reason why not to learn this part of that day. Really, if you say it connects to the TBA, the toma has to do with we're actually going to get to it soon. When is NL? No, it's a good question you're asking. Not everything was born. >> There's no word that it says, >> but we don't know when he died either because apparently he said he died. >> I think to say we know when he died. The Gomorrah says that he died. The Gomorrah says, "You're right. We do not know when he was born." 5th is most people celebrate they say it's his birth and then tonight which >> what did you say May 5th he said >> the 25th of December they're saying that's the day he was born that's when a lot of people in places out of Russia Ukraine 30% of of of people Christian they celebrate tonight is their main holiday >> so we're going to get to that shortly about when NL is based off the holiday that we'll get to. >> But Michoint that you said that they don't know it it's believed really that that he was born later. This concept one second this concept of when were when Wendy's atmo that has nothing to do when he was born. >> Yeah. Not celebrate when they go to their tiffas. That's when these tommo >> the actual the uh the Catholic church said he was born in June or August or maybe July. I mentioned that before he everyone is moa that he was not born on December 25th. It's a madeup myth over the past over the past couple hundred years it was made up that he was born on December 25th. He wasn't born December 25th. It's March. It's April but back to your Shila not to learn because has nothing to do with born with dying. Has to do with the tum that they go and they go to the v. Another reason, another reason why not to learn. Another reason, but this previous reason again has nothing to do when he's born and died. It just has to do that that's when their is and we'll get to it soon. Mash what you mentioned when it is the 25th tonight. We'll get to that in a moment. Another reason that says and if Clausal would have learned the Bikdash wouldn't have been says if Clalus would learn properly the whole Christianity would have never happened. So to show it's beuki a little bit of a mus that we stop learning to show to think that if we don't learn if we don't learn this is what happens I'm saying over said this is not a shash I'm saying overus if you want to ask questions you'll ask the questions afterwards this is not a this is all marus So this is not a >> scary >> it's not a you can't ar you could argue but I could just say over what I could say another reason which is also brought there are four times a year the fourth kufas in the year winter summer I know of now it doesn't seem to be like winter but upon these four kufas in the year winter summer spring and fall these brought >> [clears throat] >> that the beginning of the beginning of winter, beginning of summer, beginning of fall, not to drink the water. We're not going to speak about the tufa now. We're also not going to speak about this meaning of not drinking from the water and how to go about with it and put in metal. This is its own discussion. But alapon, the beginning of the tufa is mano. Some connect that the beginning of the tufa of winter which for this year and usually falls out connected to this nettle the second n which we'll get to shortly is today and it is like that the nit the kufa for winter theatu kufes which is referring to the winter kufa which is the most so to speak the biggest sak of All begins tonight at about 1000 p.m. So ma's connected to that. And yet one final reason this this reason actually maybe we could handle more. It's a of sak but we'll leave it for now. one one more reason brought why not to learn sport and time amh hogim I think it's also known that it was a saka to go out that night the got veiled they got drunk they got vile and there was they used to go and kill it was a sakana to go outside therefore they they were making the pasana not to go out to based I don't know that these law you have everyone has a everyone has in their house maybe it would be different but I'll then when a person wanted to learn where did you learn like the people didn't have shanks of that's where you went it was a s to go out they said you're not allowed to learn means you can't go out to learn the same is also they closed the mikvo for the same thing also was a sak nothing to do about not learning or not going to the mik for the it was a sak to go outside everybody learn >> yeah that's what I was saying is manu I'm not sure if the concept was wasn't to learn was to go outside what happens if you don't learn. How could the world be misguided that says that if there's no learning for one minute the whole world becomes could even be Mumis and Arashi Tus. >> Oh very good. So one of the asked and I this question you have a mig not to learn le I guess he was a little bit insulted. It's their we don't learn on their day. So he tried to get him to get him to learn to say what do you mean the world's going to come bottle. So answered the not to learn isra. So that's a good answer to answer the but you need learning that the world should be in a sky. So where's the learning? So that's a very good Yankee like you said they bring it's known from the that's why they able to create the world in different time zones but that when we're sleeping in America and Australia in Australia different places it's day it's night it's early it's late when it's tish it's yum kipper matzimer there's always times in the world where one person can't learn doesn't learn sleeping up there he's always learning so may the same A got to be n as well also at the minute not to learn the minute not to learn and the reasons why not to learn. However, there are those that were opposed to the minute. The yitz doesn't speakab, but he speaks and he says anything that's not brought in shas we're not we're not knowing like that. So not to learn on NL's not broad in sha that's not neg he doesn't spell out n he ground the spells alabu that the brings which is from but it's not brought in like that water of the later they bring brings wasn't he learned he was on people that were not to learn He held you're supposed to learn the stipler learned when is NIL. So that's who you mentioned before a little bit about it. When is NIL? There are two dates for NL. It's really one date. It's December 25th. It's the night of their of their we mentioned it's the born. Whatever the reasons, it's be on December 21 the holiday. So what's tonight this January 6th? So that that has to do with the Greek Orthodox the calendar. They moved up the days. It's a smoo for itself. It's a whole history. But alapon today is really the day of December 25th. So that holds a seabb >> in 80 years it moves one day ahead. >> Every 80 years. No, in 2100 it's going to move to January 8th instead of the seven that night just cuz the way they're >> they set up the calendar they add in >> the tourist. >> So it's interesting. So you're saying then it's going to be n going to be pushed off a day. It goes with that day. Very interesting. This itself is a and a history but even just a touch on the baseline. Very interesting where you're saying that we add in a day. Good m then it'll be pushed off also. But but it's all it's all it goes with their holiday and correct me if I'm right. I think this the lab said because it's when they came to America is no when the holiday is so back in Russia back in Russia I don't know if you lived there if there's no back in Russia we'll get to that in a minute actually back in Russia which taka they based off the calendar they had a later the holiday was later so ma taka is that what it is in Russia that when did they have Russia they have taka January >> tonight yeah tonight. >> So T if you're in Russia NL tonight but in America December 25th NLS December 25th is that right >> they celebrate >> when they celebrate but the is all these things has to do with the holiday it's not a it's a day in the calendar there's a background for the reason >> this is all be the last reason that's get treat doesn't make difference where you are It's the toma of the place of where they are. It's a toma. There shouldn't be a kit. So if you're in America, there shouldn't be a kit December 25th. If you're in Russia, there shouldn't be a kit. >> The one of that also >> I think Tuma also at the place of where a person is. A person's in America, the tum is December 25th. >> In a Muslim country, >> you mentioned it before. I don't know that there's no not. But I do know I'll mention that in a minute because they speak about it. It's a they say that it's not near BL even though it is. I mean you go to Bethlehem and these places it's big time over there the Christianity but is a place that doesn't have could be could be right. it wouldn't be when so we have the date either December 25th it's eve that means it's December 25th it's December 24th that's when they're no that's for itself also they're even though they go with the with the date maybe because he was a ye but it's the night before it's the 24th you are today January 6th when does it start he's also the hogam from 6:00 many different hog. Now let's go over which this was part of the the title that went out I believe is no shabas today which is tonight let's say it's 6:00 to midnight is no after the sud you have if a person has the mig not to learn what's about tonight so I'm going to say it's very these minhog different places bring that it's also no shabas list of marus about it. It's interesting they say the [clears throat] the firstb did not say tora when n fell out on shabas like now he did not say tora other places other mar there are many that say that it's not on shabas if you learn it's it's so the shabas counteracts it so it's it's no tonight a person that's no if you if you do hog about being shamas tonight. If a person goes with the meaning of nit not to learn this is important to share somebody there's a nice letter written somebody asked alter what should you do in stroll it's not clear if it's no there's no Christianity no over there which the first the second these are kav a whole list of questions. Should you not do yet to? So he says like this to be make to learn that's you could be if you're not sure you could learn but one thing he says clear and this is a good takeaway he says for sure the minute of nettle wasn't to waste time do something productive figure out what to do if you're not going to learn do something else it's very interesting it's brought that the used to do his for the whole year how much in out expenses, pay his bills, whatever was possible, he took care of it. He took care of it. The night of NL, there's many other things that the chabiner used to say of Sadik. In other words, if you're not learning, there's a lot of other things that could be done in the sid. bring that the knight of nit to go through the the hamus and the shat of there's a lot of things that a person can educate himself even if he's not learning just to conclude and somebody mentioned this maybe before lightly brings speaking about nettle the l of their rashlana was very happy and he explained because really rashana come say it's not fear we know about rashash we take it serious we d we utilize rashash shana but you get rash is the even for the as well they have no clue about it they don't know anything about rash it's not fear it could be it looks like a becomes lean which is there and you They go you see that they don't take it serious anyways it's that it's rightfully slow for client have a wonderful shabas