MITZVAS SHOFAR: BLOWING OR HEARING THE BLASTS - WHICH IS IT? Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

In last week's sh we spoke it was a shak the for the mitzvah say of the reason for the mitzvah and this week we're still in the beginning we just started the s officially this week I'm not going to go into the more overviewer You don't have to worry. I don't say every week. It's every other week. But next week, the speaker is available next week for arranging. So I I'm going to say this week instead of next week. The mitzvah the mitzvah the mitzvah in the of thera says let's say in English a day true of blast to blowifer what is the mitzvah mitzvah say of is the mitzvah to blow scher Or is the mitzvah to listen to the marshall by the mitzvah is to read the mill. Now we don't all read the however it blah. That's the what's the mitzvah when the says is the saying the same that the mitzvah is to blow it's as if we all are ballet or is the mitzvah to listen to listen to the we have to learn well go through the sim that we're learning now in the night how exactly how long the kas have to be the sick How does it look the half in the kilus? >> But what is the mitzvah? Is the mitzvah the blowing of the kus or is the mitzvah the listening of the kilus? >> Oh, we'll get to the bra. Very good. Very good. We'll get to the bra in a minute. Excellent. If somebody blows and he doesn't hear the he's wearing earplugs are you if the mitzvah is to blow you did a you blew if the mitzvah is to hear you didn't hear the other way around also if a a kid blows blows if the mitzvah is the mitzvah to blow. So they're not about you don't have from a kid. If the mitzvah is to hear the coil, you hear a coil, you hear a coilus, who cares that it's coming from a cotton. So what is the mitzvah? Is the mitzvah the blowing or the mitzvah is the mitzvah to hear. Let's see. We're going to go through a little bit >> what it say [Music] a little a little bit more is that the mitzvah is the ra the beginning to listen. The mitzvah is to listen. Obviously, the only way to listen, you need to have somebody to blow. But the mitzvah is to listen. You have to hear the as well. A lot of times quotes says since the mitzvah he brings the bahag like you mentioned very good the starts off and he brings that says that the iser but the rush quotes the what do we make cuz the mitzvah is to listen. So the bala that's going to be blowing even for him even for everybody the mitzvah and that's what is the rash speaks this out that it's not though one of the bringer and he says it's like in this week's parach is it's not you're not listening to what the is telling you though like we spoke last week that the is supposed to be but it's not you're not listening to the direction of the it's theapon what we have over here with a clite is that the mitzvah are say of that we're learning the mitzvah is to listen to the shar brings very interesting from the there was once a town that they didn't have a bala so they had to bring in a bala there was some people that were able to afford and some people not tol I'm skipping really towards the end of the scenario but I'll >> you have in mind some >> oh very good so the people that paid said Listen, we're bringing you in. The other people can't afford. We're paying. It's on condition that you only have a mind for the people that paid, not for the people that didn't pay. >> Okay. >> So, we're not going to go into that. Lisa, we're going to go to the end. I would say the he brings let's call it. The person came and the person that said, "Listen, I'm coming anyways. My let me have let me be mighty everybody saying this was he came ready to town why not be mighty everybody [Applause] nobody is nobody even the people that paid also why the people that paid the way they're and this guy didn't do a they told him you can't blow And only for us, not for the other people. He didn't do their they are not clear. >> What? Oh, very good. Very good. Exactly like you're saying. Beautiful. I don't understand. What's coming over here? You don't need the only thing the people need is to listen to the the only thing that's needed is to listen to the only thing he needs to listen to. What's an if this was smart and everybody they needs to you need which means if it would be a mitzvah. So then he wasn't a proper because he didn't listen to them. But if it's just what difference does it make they hurt >> what say yeah the balta hands in to be everybody the people that paid and the people that didn't pay and everybody had to be with it doesn't work >> why should why should it says it it doesn't work for anybody He's push he's because he's not a good but if you don't what should be the problem because they paid him. Okay. So they paid him I hear. What does it have to do with the good we'll get to that? We'll get to that sh of mamish in a minute. That's one of the shilas that they ask. We'll get to mash in a minute. Alapon, what do we have over here? The mitzvah is and the people everybody's >> what it say. >> Yeah. I think in the beginning it is on the bottom. It starts on the bottom and it goes to the next case. >> What' it say? If if nobody's like says you're right about the himself about the himself if he didn't blow earlier. >> Yeah. Then it wouldn't be like this. If you learn like we see the pashta is that the mitzvah is the there are three basic questions asked in the number one the brought in the test that's the to blow they're you can't be so the sh is if they need to be if you I understand. But if you just need to hear a schem if it's Yeah. Yeah. It's if the mitzvah is to listen. >> Yeah. >> Why should it be if the mitzvah is to listen? And at the end of the day, the Tory says listen to it doesn't make a difference who blows it. Anybody hear we understand that reads and you're not because you read as they're reading is like your reading. So you can't have their reading because they're you have a Miss somebody that's playing around with the comes out also on that the dinner is that you're not what's the difference doesn't make a difference and lastly why do you have to have this is what you were asking before why do you have to have cavonas the balt care to be and for the to be to be from the person that's blowing. Why do you have to have all these? He's no you're listening to the that's what the wants the mitzvah. >> There's no way to these things. >> So, so that's what we're going to speak about a little bit. How t how that's you have to say. We'll see. Let's see. There's a few different go through and both say like this 100% the mitzvah is the not the blowing the however however the type of that you have to listen to the you have to listen to is a that was blown mitzvah the mitzvah is not to blow the mitzvah to hear but these in the mitzvah just like everybody agrees you can listen to a coil from today till tomorrow but it has to be by day not by night. So there's another that the has the have to be that will blown it can't accomplish it. Miss can't accomplish it. Somebody that blows and he's not biblra says to listen to but it has to be kilas that were blown mitzvah but what comes out very interesting ra is that if the balt blows he's he himself for him it's good but and he's even if he's for him he's blowing in his but for the other person he wasn't and he's not it's very interesting because the coil is really a coil that was blown about himself as being I'm pointing out on the third it blows up this because when you when the when the bake is blowing for him himself it's a regular clear mitzvah So what are we saying? You have to listen to that was blown. So the blew it because he was somebody else. That's not a mitzvah. Yeah, that's that's that's a bigger Israel only had some in mind and not the others. >> Not the others. >> You're saying could be over there is more could be says the same idea, the same concept, but he uses a little bit of a different word. He says that when you don't instead of saying that you have to have a coil that was blown mitzvah he says if if it's not a this coiler if you don't have item mitzvah instead of how they say obliv he says it's as if a coil that doesn't come out from a aer comes out from a k something that's not ker but the same idea the same idea you have to have a co sh mitzvah If you have a mind to be has a mind to be everyone sitting on the left side of the room, right? So then that's the left side had to be they were the left side and he was to be them. That's beautiful. >> The right side even though they had to be to be >> but he was not to be them. Therefore, they're not >> right >> and and the reason why is because they didn't hear a which which was saying in the is that you could split it that then because the wasn't to be the right side the right side is not for the left side it's yeah you know I'm saying the same thing even without right side left If the blows and he doesn't he's from self and he doesn't mind anybody else that's also very from self he's avah everybody that's listening is hearing you're saying there also is for everybody but the the the listeners were over there also. They were a lot. Yeah, that's also no. One second. One second. One second. This is not This is to be one second. Here we're talking about you do a mitzvah. also even without this whole blows. He has he's doing it. But now here we're talking about something else to be the people that are listening and the listeners says a little bit on a different note also also that the mitzvah is the like we're saying till now but he adds and he says like this theory says the Tory says the already says to blow now there's No mitzvah on everybody to blow but somebody has to blow like his best bezdon what he means the baya somebody has to blow which means for all of us for every single one of us the mitzvah of the to listen however that has to come together with a blowing you don't have to have to have the blowing but it has there has to be a blowing understands the mitzvah is to Listen, the mitzvah is to listen like we're saying till now. However, there is the word is not however to listen to the coil. It has to come from a what we clar in the beginning is the mitzvah to blow or the mitzvah is to listen. The mitzvah is to listen. However, it has to come from a blowing. It has to come from a blowing. Is not a blowing. Is not a blowing. is not a blowing. But you don't need to have it. >> What do you mean it's not a blowing? Not blowing a mitzvah. That's what we said before. >> No. No. If if you Good. Very good. If to up until now we said the only thing is no. The type of that you're supposed to have is a of a mitzvah. He was saying no to listen not. However, because the toyra says the toyra says blowing, you have to listen to a coil that's coming from a blowing. Not what we said before that the coil has the shme has to be a mitzvah. No, no, no. It's a regular shme, but it has to come from a blowing. If I would tell you the mitzvah is blowing, you would totally understand. Here we're saying it's not that the mitzvah is the blowing, but there has to be a blowing. But there you're not even a registered. >> It's not blowing. It's not a registered blowing. It's not blowing. It's not mic is not blowing. Just like when we said before, if it be a mitzvah to blow, we would totally understand cuz you don't have the blowing. So he was saying it's not a mitzvah for everybody to blow. The mitzvah is but it has to come from a blowing. Someone has to blowden the balta. >> Shitzvah really means is that the it's only but these are and you have to listen to coil of a shitzvah. He was saying you just have to listen. But these another thing besides listening to a coil you also have to have eight. It's the same thing. Could be. It's the same thing. I thought that what they have saying that's a very small piece. You can look very short. He he says he he makes this big that says to blow. It doesn't mean he means about you have to have a blowing saying that's right more about it. could be another registered. >> One second is is a perfect you don't have >> you don't have the you don't have the because it's it's a but it's a registered blow. >> Yeah. So you see that spelt in between the two. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so one thing comes out the the what we saying >> in the book. >> Yeah. Yeah. If you listen. Yeah. But with this that we're saying that you still need you the up until now we're not of the asks why shouldn't the the person be all the why should nobody be that with the story of the there's no it's so up until now we're saying it's the compassim says And also says like that that it's both. It's both. It's and it's both. It's both. So if you stop right here, it's both because even though you have the you have the you need both. It's very simple because you need both. You need both. Says the same also. You need both >> at the same time. >> Oh, very good. He himself read. He says, listen to what he says. If you could a person be you have I blew into the bar. I did it here. So there I'm going to be and then I'm going to have a cotton blow for me and I have the not. He says, "No, you have to have both together. You have to have both together. It's posh needed together." He says, "It's two in the mitzvah, but you can't have each one separate. You have to have both together." Where does the compass come to this comes to this? It's both the speaking about the he says it's both. Brings the capus tomorrow. He says, "What's the ray?" It's like what we said before. It's really just you have to have [Applause] what if you hold why not? You mean if it's both right now we're going to answer the why. So why is the brings that there are two one that's and he even wants to say like that what we said before he brings the rush I I don't see it in the rush but the what the quotes in the rush is and not [Applause] the ter is he says he brings the rush I saw the rush and I don't see it. But he says, you asked why do we say it's both to point out that you also need you also need but says it's both. It's both. The rush says Nami though I I looked I didn't see maybe it's somewhere else but when the rush speaks about it over there he doesn't say the Nami. He brings the sh from and he says the bahag but he doesn't say the nami theam that we mentioned before that the raam says and we were pretty that if the raam says the mitz not he says no the ra the reason why he says is because the d of the ra is to go on what the speaks about and the says yu which is which isn't I I would have thought is actually not say that's why the Rambam said but it's it's well so that's the that's the compass the mitzvah is both and what this I'm going to conclude even though they want to be the Rambam holds that it's both the Rambam and Chu they bring this maramara The Rambam and Chu spells out mafurish mafurish black and white that the mitzvah is only the Rambam asks why do we make a why not the words the mitzvah is and not he says clearly he spells out clearly the mitzvah and Not then he says to say there >> then >> then he says no that's why he says why the is not kia now even though maybe if we said before it's both but he spells it out clearly and he says it's not now he says if the mitzvah would be to blow how could you have it's Just like Lulov, you can't have somebody else be made to you with Lulov. How could you have somebody else blowing the for you? Just like shaking the Lula, somebody can't shake the Lula for you. Some person can't blow the for you. So the mitzvah is the mitzvah is not if the mitzvah would be how could you be mighty somebody else? >> Yeah. >> Oh. Oh very good brother. though yeah the himself brings this he has a different he says that only he says because it's why they can it's only but I thought you were going to say you have to also if you hold it if it's if you hold it's both so how could it be so the cup what it say >> it's a code is it Is it a deep >> It's different. You're saying no. >> Yeah. But how could it be mighty the blowing reading even if it's the is like you read it is like you blow the shifer. What say? So how if you look like the so is if you look if you look in the himself the himself is of this and he says and he says that these over here when the tora says is that one yim True or not everybody has to the mala here by it's different even though otherwise lul everyone has to take lulifer the mala one through or one blowing is enough for everybody the everyone has to hear it's a tomorrow inside why is other places what do we have over here that the says that and the raam it's the ram says ver that if you use a stolen the is it's a that the mitzvah is not the blowing if the mitzvah would be blowing you're using it's a if it's just so then it's not the it's the so just to conclude to the mitzvah of is it the mitzvah or is it The mitzvah we saw the mitzvah of listening to the co we saw there is clearly in the capas tomorrow that it's both side no. He doesn't even bring it. Yeah. Seminars.