Hachana L'shabbos - Rabbi Simcha Bunim Berger: Is Shabbos afternoon sleep for Motzai Shabbos?

Okay, good evening my rabbi side. This week Shabbos Kodesh Shabbos discusses can you tell your children to go to sleep on Shabbos afternoon because on Motzei Shabbos we have a bar mitzvah or it's erev Shavuos. Sometimes Shavuos falls out on a Sunday and therefore Motzei Shabbos is leil Shavuos. And that's the night we stay up and it's a mitzvah to learn all night. Brought down in the Zohar Hakodesh. So, I want to go to sleep on Shabbos to be able to stay up at night and I want my children do that as well. Is it appropriate to tell them "Geh shlafen. Go to sleep so you should have koach to learn tonight." Leil Haseder every couple of years comes out on a Motzei Shabbos. By the Leil Haseder, one of the most important nights of the year. If it's on Motzei Shabbos, great. So, you can sleep on Shabbos and have koach. But are you allowed to tell that to somebody? And the shaila goes even farther. Is it assur or muttar on Shabbos and how about erev Shabbos? Can I tell the kinderlach, you know, tomorrow Shabbos is erev Pesach or erev Shavuos, you should probably chap a rein and go to sleep. Can you tell them on erev Shabbos? Let's see the shaila and the chakira. The bakasha. Mishpacha she kavu la'arach es sudas bar mitzvah shel b'nam b'motzei Shabbos. Mishpacha decided that their son's bar mitzvah's Motzei Shabbos um machmas kein m'unyanim ha'av v'ha'em she'l d'eyam yishnu b'tzaharayim b'yom ha'Shabbos. So, they want their children to sleep. Kiday shoo a ram in the same car should this guy be mostly Shabbos so it should be awake on mostly Shabbos. Can they tell the kids gayish love him so you should have a mostly Shabbos. A person is not supposed to be making the coil. You're not supposed to do that. I tell him he can go ahead and learn. Go to sleep. You're only saying Right? You're only saying. Yum show slime right that the mix of a soda that a person makes for his bar mitzvah bocher is one of the biggest soda mixes out there. So are you allowed to prepare it or not? Let's talk and see that yum show slime. Look at the yum show slime. That's page number four at the bottom. Sodas bar mitzvah show awesome Ashkenazim. I don't know why he said that Ashkenazim. There ain't no bigger mitzvah than sodas bar mitzvah for us. The shmo Yechia Chola. The name Seudas Bar Mitzvah. She is some simcha and nice and welcome shabbos she is a narrow Bar Mitzvah. To have your son become Bar Mitzvah is probably one of says the Yamos the biggest event in a Jewish person's life. Much bigger than a bris. A bris he gets a bris isn't a table. The kid's not doing anything. It's a father's mitzvah. Here the son every day every minyan you go to nine men this kid after his Bar Mitzvah is mash'em the minyan. Everything he does he's now considered a mitzvah like he says Shazacha Nalius Bar Mitzvah Hamitzvah Av Zacha Shegali Atala Avris Atala what is the father has that he was able to bring his kid to be Bar Mitzvah and he brings a Raya like the Gemara says. So this Seudah is a major Seudah. And it's Motzei Shabbos. So I want to tell my kids and they should learn I'm going to you know what I even tell them what to do. I tell them you know I'm going to sleep because we're going to need to be up Motzei Shabbos. So I want to tell my kids right not do as I say but do as I do. I'm going to sleep so I should have the same thing like we just said before and if it's a layla say done Motzei Shabbos if it's layla shruis you want to go to sleep so I'm telling my kinderlach I'm being am I being a good example by telling them? So now like this what is the Sugya? What's this all about? What's the Sugya? What why would it or would it not be mutar? So let's start. Let's turn to page number 13 where we quote the Gemara Shabbos and Gemara Amud Bais. Page 13 at the bottom. Shabbos Kuf Yud Gimmel. Shaloh Yehei Dibburcha Shel Shabbos Ke'Dibburcha Shel Chol. On Shabbos it says, "Daber Davar." The way we speak on Shabbos is not supposed to be the way we speak during the weekday. Says the Gemara, Shaloh Yehei Dibburcha Shel Shabbos Ke'Dibburcha Shel Chol. Says Rashi, top of the page, So our our Shabbos conversation is supposed to reflect Shabbos and not Chol. V'Olam Alah. Now Tosfos says something fascinating. It was just Reb Shimon's Yahrtzeit, so why not quote something from Reb Shimon bar Yochai? To be Tosfos, Shaloh Yehei Dibburcha Shel Shabbos Ke'Dibburcha Shel Chol. Peirush Ba'Kuntres. Rashi says, "Business." Says Rabbeinu Tam, "Ein Meira." Because business is already prohibited from Mitzui Cheftzecha. Al Amru Rabbeinu Tam, I'll tell you what it means. There's a Medrash. Reb Shimon bar Yochai had a mother. Hava Lei Eima Safta Da'Hava Mishtoi Sagi. She spoke a lot. Asach Gebet. Safta Mishtoi Harbei. She spoke a lot. You can't tell your mother not to that mom, you know, it's not Kibbud Av V'Eim. So what did Reb Shimon bar Yochai do? Says the Medrash, Amar Lo, "Eima, Shabbat Shabbata Hi." It's Shabbos. Shoska. And she shain farshtan, she understood, maybe I shouldn't be talking so much. Chas V'Shalom, he didn't want to tell his mother what to He just said, "Mommy, it's Shabbos." Says Tosfos, "Mashma, She'ein Kol Kach." shabbos that Indian >> [clears throat] >> to have to swigon a bit slower to be on a madrega of shika to be on a little bit of a higher madrega niche also and if you take a look in the shulchan and turn to the next page please and we look at the shulchan and the mission of bro the name shabbos the dim war the laws of shabbos that are dependent on the bird the the war surely the bird the bird the way we speak on shabbos we elevate ourselves and we elevate what we say and how we say it and what we talk about sure [snorts] our shabbos discussions and our shabbos self should not be like the weekday you can't go out and say I'm going to do this tomorrow I can't wait I'm going to go buy a suit tomorrow yeah we're going to go shopping for a suit you're not supposed to say that on shabbos the feeling the seekers the taylor master of the harvest even just some drama detail now they like telling stories maybe some ice is etc and that's an motor less apron the shabbos motor you can go ahead and say them I want to mission in the miss on egg also I'm wrong if it's not a tonic for you just for Yanam you can't do that says the says the bear hated when it talks about not we talks about limiting what we talk about not talking about things of the weekday what about for doing a mitzvah says the bear hated right over here this is it. It's on this page right there. Says the Be'er Heitev. The afelu dvar mitzvah, when it puts a restriction on what we're what we are and what we're not allowed to speak about on Shabbos, it includes even a dvar mitzvah. This Sefer Chassidim, let's go back a minute. We're going to come back to this in a minute. Go back to the beginning of the book. It's quoted on page number five. It says on the top of the page, this is this what he quotes, "Bishabbos lo ya'ameir adam nishon." A person shouldn't say "L'meiga'in shlufin nishon k'dei sh'na'aseh melachten motzei Shabbos." So we should have koach to work on motzei Shabbos. "She' assur l'eimar l'machar asseh afilu chofetz l'ichtov Torah." Even if the reason he's doing it is something as grandiose as writing a Torah. "B'meishim mareh mashsheyoshen v'neich b'Shabbos." He's showing what he's sleeping and resting "she'eiseh bishvil achayil." He's doing that for the weekday. That's a shtikel zilzul on Shabbos. When you're taking what should be, as we'll soon see, an oneg Shabbos, and you're using it just to prepare for the weekday. "Ela [snorts] ya'amein anucha ki Shabbos hayom." "Vos gein shlufin gezunterhalt." It's Shabbos. On Shabbos, it's a good thing to go to sleep. No problem. Go ahead. "Ober don't say for the weekday." If you take a look at the Orach Chaim Shulchan that he quotes, you'll find that on page 18. Our Hashulchan says The aim rugel, you see where that is, Rabbi side? It's about six lines from the bottom. The aim rugel be shana's tzarayim. If a person sleeps in the afternoon al yevatlenu the one who lay You shouldn't be mevatel it. It's an one who lay. The shana's shabbos tinuk. And the shana's sleeping on shabbos no I get the children. Uh-huh. Right? No, after a good challenge you're comatose. You can shluf as I get. And it's a tinuk. But the also lay mar as shown to the last of the malacha be erev. I want to if that's who I believe, right? I have to go work at night. That you're not allowed to do. The feeling could they little might be erev. And even if it's to learn Why? The zeal can make him a shabbos le choyel. Wow. You can be you'd considered preparing preparing from shabbos to choyel. You're making. Eliezer could they learn no be shabbos. From the Hashulchan, it doesn't sound like you It's not a daber dover issue. We're still going to see there are multiple reasons. One of them, which we started daber dover, you can't say you want to prepare for something. You can't speak about something which is inappropriate on shabbos. But here the Hashulchan gives us a different reason. Even sleeping, he considers as a hakana. If you're doing it for the weekday. And therefore, you want to go isn't that right? But for Shabbos okay? It's let's go back to the to the mission of brewer that we started with back on page number 14. Thinking is one thing. >> [clears throat] >> So we said that one more time, the deeper of Shabbos the deeper of Shabbos should be some more over here. The deeper of Shabbos should not be like the deeper of also I can't I'm going to do it tomorrow. I'm doing something now for tomorrow. I says the bear hate and even if it's a safer we quoted we just saw the safer it says I will gain something. I want to go to sleep so I should be able to write a safer Torah tomorrow the safer also. Because this is you can't say it. But that's not so positive. Says the says the shower of chuva. The rubber highlight. The mixture of motors. And the also seems to hold like that. So it seems to be it's a like this. The the honey. Says the mission of brewer right here. You see where the gray area is at the bottom. Again, it's on page 14. The S of the marker. He makes a That means he balances it out. Safer of state you can't say anything on Shabbos that you're going to do during the weekday even if it's a mitzvah. In the beer came the Shavuot brings down from from the rabba that if it's a mitzvah it's motor. Says the mission of the road the following. The dark motor so losses be Shabbos. Those things that are also to speak about are things that if you would have want to do them on Shabbos it would be also. The film is a bonus. The issue of mitzvah can see the safer also learn S L M A C H E R. That's the Morgan of room the Morgan of room can I say good safer them they all bring down you can't write a safer turn on Shabbos and you can't talk about writing a safer turn on Shabbos even though it's such a big mitzvah. The also learn S L M A C H E I will be Leo rabba. My mom beer came the Quran. They argue the same room. The call the call the bar mitzvah sorry. It's not a zero to talk about on Shabbos mitzvahs that you're going to do. That's not a zero. It's Shabbos appropriate. >> [snorts] >> The call my time. Pass against the sky in the call the call the call the call the call Since there are those who hold that you shouldn't it's appropriate to be a mitzvah. The call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call If there's no reason to speak about it why should you take a position can I get those who say you shouldn't? The call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call the call But if you feel that there might be some is which means that if we don't talk about it, then it might not happen the way it's supposed to. There'll be some type of law. Hit rash loot means to say it won't be taken as seriously. It won't be as effective. Then says the mission of Brura So if you need to talk about it, if you need to have the mitzvah of davening something because if not, you might be mefases, you might lose in it. Beseder. Beseder. Then you can do it. Then you're supposed to do it. But if it's not necessary, better to hold off. So once with shlufing we started tonight and asked, can a person say shlufing is not much of a ma'aser, is it? I'll give you one. B'vakasha. To go to sleep is not much of a ma'aser. So can I say I'm going to sleep because, let's say, like we said, shlufus comes out motzei Shabbos. Shlufus comes out motzei Shabbos. So can I say I'm going to go to sleep? I'm not doing a ma'aser now. I'm doing it for learning Torah. Layla seder that falls out on motzei Shabbos or the story we said that the kasha that the shaliach asked you make a bar mitzvah motzei Shabbos. So suddenly one of the kindler have to go to sleep. So you want to say you say kindler I'm going to sleep so I should be able to have koach tonight for the bar mitzvah. The bar mitzvah is the thing. It's all for a mitzvah. Learning is for a mitzvah. Layla seder is a mitzvah. They're all for a mitzvah. >> work six like I have to call off the work my pizza so I'm motzei Shabbos. That'd be a bigger problem. That's out of bounds. That was a zikaron good. Yeah. That's right. You can't say that. You can you can have an intention. Yeah, you could have a mistake. We'll see right now. We're going to summarize. It's on page eight. It seems that it seems that Rabbi this is back in years ago wrote this chuva. Is it possible top of the page in sleep today April showers? So they bring down Gimel there are three different sugars that we need to discuss and we've touched on them without actually pointing them out clearly but we've touched on them. We're going to see them right now. If it's permissible or not. And we'll see one of the we'll see is can I tell my Kinder lock Arab showers that on showers I'm going to sleep because I want to be up showers to stay up all night. Is it only if it is also is it also only on showers because but if I made I say it on Arab showers so it's because it's Arab showers or no. Because maybe the also no matter what so saying it on Arab showers doesn't make it any better. Let's see inside. Why did the why did he say it's awesome? Number one, which we began with that it that you should you should speak we should speak a little bit less. So if so it's you're talking about to say on Shabbos I'm doing something on Shabbos for the weekday. So I should be able to make pizza Shabbos. I mean it's delicious pizza, shall we speak to us good pizza, but but you can't say at least on Shabbos. Maybe [snorts] you could say pizza is good on Shabbos, right? But you can't say we're going to go buy it on Shabbos, even though for Malko. Shabbos the second reason is like we saw like we saw the show home. The only mayor I'm sleeping. For I should be up Shabbos he does a zoo. The covered Shabbos. You're taking what we just saw which was so appropriate for Shabbos Shabbos is a time. You're doing it for Shabbos. That's why you're doing it. That it so is a zoo on Shabbos. You're not even being the Shabbos when you do it for Shabbos. That's two. Number three, a third possibility is because of a as we saw one of the explained you're preparing for the weekday. The also you're not allowed to do anything that it's that you're doing Shabbos. For example, one of the that's brought down is if you need wine for Havdalah. And Shabbos afternoon, you say, "Let me Let's go to the garage and get a bottle of wine for Havdalah." On Shabbos, you're doing that? That's preparing from Shabbos to Shabbos. How are you allowed to do that? That's a kind of honor. A person parked his car Shabbos Friday night Shabbos he went and ate someplace by a cover >> [snorts] >> or someplace he a certain he drove the car there. So, on Shabbos afternoon, he wants to walk to that So, he says to his wife, "Honey, I'm going over there to pick up my car Shabbos." Fair. You're not allowed to say that. You could go there maybe for maybe the gives a nice and once you're there already Shabbos but to go on Shabbos you have to pick up your car Shabbos and to say that that's a sir. That's what I get the idea. You can't say that. That's not over. So, is it a deeper issue? That's one. Number two, it's a little of Shabbos to sleep on Shabbos for not for Shabbos to take something which was a and to use it for something else. And the third thing is playing the Shabbos. Those are the three reasons that we find in the first. Next paragraph, the winner. Here it is. It's at the bottom of the page right over here. On page number eight. The winner and the difference between these would be to share I am she today last but Shabbos. He doesn't say it. He doesn't say it. Like he should Shabbos. If he doesn't say it, okay? Excuse me, he says I'm doing it so I should learn. That's when he said I'm doing something which I can't do. Like we saw talking to Mission of Brewer earlier in Simmon Shin Zion that brought down the my case between the safer and between the my mom Mordecai in D There was motor right the Morgan of Rome brought down the safer that says it's also the my mom Mordecai So according to that side that there's something to be matter. I will let's try to base But the reason that says it's Shabbos also that I'll call miracle the Shabbos. It's if doing whether you said it or not but you're doing it for months of Shabbos is certainly also. The idea that give them because of a corner the corner of the Shabbos with even if it's mix up You're not supposed to go to be making like we just saw a moment ago. Is it a mix up to make up the one again? You bet you better believe it it is. Should you make up the one of course you should. Can I go on Shabbos and take a bottle of wine and bring [clears throat] it to the to the kitchen and put it in the fridge so it should be cold when I make up the one. No. You can't do that because you're being making the Shabbos the one. No, you can't do that. Can't chill the wine so that you should be nice and cool when you make Havdalah. Why? For Motzei Shabbos, if you use it sudas, you know, the Rambam holds that you're supposed to drink wine by Shabbos by by all three sudas. So, in Shabbos I used to go to my rebbe Reb Moshe Shapiro, so we used he he would give me a little I would go there for shala sudas. So, he would say to me, "Take a bissel of wine shitas Rambam." So, if you chill the wine on Shabbos afternoon, so you could have it on suda shlishis. The vakasha, you're doing it for Shabbos. And then when you put take it out from the fridge, you could put it back in cuz no one says you can't put it back. And then there you go. So, you used it for suda shlishis. Now you're good. So, then you use it again for Motzei Shabbos. But did you have to take it out just for Shabbos? The vadai it's assur. That's called the zilzul Shabbos. That's called the mechum Shabbos d'coil. So, that would be an af kamina. If it's because of deebra, I didn't say anything, but if I'm still doing it for that reason, that's a problem. V'eina af kamina. Another af kamina. Im mutal Shabbos shiyanuach harbei. Like I'm going to kadesh you on Motzei Shabbos. I Let's if she omer b'erev Shabbos. Not on Shabbos. Erev Shabbos. Shabbos what is g'zult? Shabbos I didn't say a word. But erev Shabbos, you know, tomorrow you tell the kinderlach megayish shlufin. You know, tomorrow it's erev Pesach. So, we're going to have to go to sleep on Shabbos we'll be up all night. When do you say it? On Friday. If it's cuz of zilzul Shabbos, it's still a problem. Because you're identifying that mach b'tli you said it on Shabbos you said it before Shabbos. What's the af kamina when you said it? The important thing is you're using lashon hara on Shabbos you're That's lashon hara. You're Lashon Hara on Shabbos in English. You're declaring that what you're doing on Shabbos instead of the time for the purpose of Shabbos, you're declaring you're doing it for something outside of Shabbos. So you're using your Shabbos, you're taking something so geshmak as a time of Shabbos of shalom bayis Shabbos, you're using The but the problem is you're still being mezalzel on the Shabbos since that's why you're doing it. >> [snorts] >> K'dei she let's say the according to the first reason, that's cuz of davar davar pshita d'shari. D'amira ossur b'Shabbos mishum d'davar davar. And because on Shabbos there's no amira about it's okay. Aval l'tzad tzad d'ossur. Why the kol ponim zilzul Shabbos? Shoyim mishum she no say day l'choyil. D'maykin mishum zilzul Shabbos b'zeh shoyim mishum she no bishul Shabbos. I'm not doing it for Shabbos. I'm doing it because normal Shabbos I sleep for a half an hour, 45 minutes. Oh, if I'm going to have to be up late last seder, so now I want to sleep a good two full hours. So I should have a groise koach. You don't want to say that. As we're going to see, you can do it no zugnish. Be like Reb Shimon bar Yochai's mother and make shtika. Better don't say anything. But don't go ahead and and say that's why I'm doing it. And v'lacheira yesh l'tzad so therefore and also for the reason of achana l'chayis is also a reason. V'lacheira yesh l'tzad gam she'lasein mutar l'eima l'achar hashaina. After the person slept, shainoch harbei k'dei she yuchal l'lumad b'Shabbos. After he sleeps, he got up and he said, "Ah, such a geshmak'eh shluf. Now I can learn motzei Shabbos." Can he say that or not? Says It says Rabbi Aaron Leiberman Zocher Azoy According to the reason um Latzas Yeshua the divrei mitzvah like they said beforehand. Right? But according to the the Magen Avraham But mitzad zilzul Shabbos now afterwards to say that you did it for the weekday you're still being mizalzel of Shabbos. Al ko panim it sounds pretty clear and it states that if a person does want to sleep on Shabbos and he knows that he wants and he needs to be awake on motzei Shabbos the kavana should be for Shabbos Kodesh. Period. The kavana should be for Shabbos Kodesh and it's a mitzvah. In the Mishna Berurah um like we go back to page No. You go to page six. You go to page six. Six, seven. It brings down It says Yarbev Yarbev Peras Reish Tzadik Yarbev Peras Megadim Minei Reiyach you're supposed to do things to have Hashem Minei Mayah Brachos V'im Rogel B'Tzohorayim Avin Rogel B'Sheinah if you sleep in the afternoon Al Yevatelenu Ki Oneg Hu Lo Don't be mevatal the sleep because it's an Oneg for him. It's an Oneg to go in sleep. Says the Mishna Berurah letter Daled Aval Lo Yoman Neilech K'dei She'Nuchal Lasmach T'ein B'Shabbos She'Marish Sheinah V'Yoshev B'Shul Motzei Shabbos You think about But Zukman, I'm saying the Shabbos Kodesh brings down the Shaarei Teshuvah, the last line before it becomes what I wrote over there from the second last line. Because of the shame of Shabbos. He slept two to three hours. I once heard from my rebbe I think he said He said over the shame the guy. Why did the Kodesh Baruch who create sleep? Why did they create sleep? What when the was programming a human being? So he could have programmed a human being without the need to sleep. I'm sure there are many of us that wish we didn't have to sleep. Do I know what the girl says? The girl says there's a certain amount of Torah a person can learn while he's awake. But Torah is so big. So when a person sleeps, he has a capacity to learn much more than he could when he's awake. In today's day and age with computers, you would call it you get to download a file. The Hamidim writes the Vilna Gaon writes that one day the Vilna Gaon came to Shachris and he looked like he something was bothering the Gaon. Something was on his mind. He didn't look his regular self. The Hamidim asked him, "Rebbe, what's wrong?" He didn't want to say. But they pushed him. The Gaon said, "Last night someone came to me in a holom and told me 2,000 shatim of a luzer ben Banegev. Moshe Rabbeinu told the miraglim to go up from the south. The grow was taught 2,000 reasons varvos shotim of why Moshe Rabbeinu goes up Al Ze Banegev. And he thought about it before birchas haTorah. It's a machlokes grow and Magen Avraham tzimtzum make trachten if you could think about divrei Torah before birchas haTorah. The grow and she tossa holds you can't. And he lost all 2,000 of them. Nishkan ain gedanken. He didn't remember any of them. It was a matana and he lost it all. And that's why he was upset. So the tamidim gave the rebbe a brocha, you should find your aveda. A few weeks later one of the tamidim had the courage to ask the guy, did the guy did the guy get back his matana? And he said, yeah, baruch Hashem I got it back. I heard my rebbe zechrono livracha said, the Rebbe Kodesh was sleeping Shabbos noch Mittag and his lips were moving. And one of the tamidim came into the room to look into the Rebbe and he saw that his lips were moving. He was so curious, vos redt der Rebbe? So he approached him quietly, but he made he rustled a little bit and the the Rebbe opened his eyes. And the Rebbe said to him, vos vos gekent lernen achtzig yor to know what I just learned right now, 80 years of limud to know what I just got in this Shabbos noch Mittags shlof. Avada, when you when you're awake like the grow and like the Rebbe, then you're sleep the Reb Tzadok HaKohen has a safer in his farim. He has divrei There's a tire that he learned in chalamus. He writes the night and when he learned them. In a chalam, you have an opportunity to download so much more. If that's the way a person gets a shlaf, then a person is oisek batoy so the sleeping itself that says the guy is the reason that they should created shlaf. As maso cannon, you could be able to get more than you would be able to when you're awake. Al ko panim shana be shabbos tanu. Oba medafis tan le kovid shabbos koidish. When you do it for kovid shabbos, it's the greatest mitzvah. Even if motzei shabbos you have a layla sayda, even if motzei shabbos you have a a a layla shavuos and you want to sleep so you should have koiyach. Zug is nicht. You can't say that. Zug le shabbos koidish. You're stewing it le shabbos koidish. What you have afterwards gezinter height, so you'll be awake, so you have an extra bonus. Am I lozecha is a best of shabbos baruch to use the shabbos ice both the chelek that we sleep as well as the chelek that we're awake to be ma'anik the shabbos and to give kovid to the aibishter. Reb Chananya ben Akasha