GIVING TZEDAKAH WITH OTHER INTENTIONS - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner at the Night Kollel

In the previous sh the shakama we spoke when you're actually giving saddaka but we focus in the giving saddaka how to give saddaka we said you have to give to want to give if a person has a hard time giving he's alive and today I would like to focus in on from a different angle. First of all, when you're giving the of and also could you give saddaka with having in mind to get that to get that reward. We'll start with what's brings in the beginning of Zion that if a person gives saddaka he becomes wealthy. The Rama says you become wealthy when you give sodaka. The brings that not only besides becoming wealthy it's also a Aos on the note of the medish the medish in next week's para is upd made and the was to give up giving saddaka you become wealthy. What's the m that when you give saddaka you become wealthy par what does it have to say to speaking about taking off true muser you should take messer why can't I just say is what's give and giving you become you'll become now the says that the is really not speaking about giving sodaka the is talking about giving me like the p saysis brings the says this that the Gomorrah says that you become wealthy. How do you know that that's maybe it's only everything else as well also anything that you gain any money that you gain pra you gain money if you give me you become wealthy now the sug of giving mser is a shar for itself is it the risa is it the raon is it mimig but alopon that if you give me not only on the if you give me on your money you become wealthy. We're talking about sedaka in general is of in middle of in the he says about giving one of is by giving says giving the even more clear like that that it's of him if somebody gives saddaka like The says it's I wouldn't call it a school. It's the [snorts] right you find other places also says that if a person gives these he become wealthy. Just on the note that we connected and so we have to mention that in this week's para it says the says so brings some he gave mistress the raam says that who was by and okay this is we're talking about just we connected but what's clear is that if somebody gives me it's a good says you want to preserve your money which means to make your money less so what does that mean rash explains the way to s to hold on to your money is by giving it to you want to hold on to your money to hold on to your money you should give that's how he's going to hold on to it then also the says of course the ra says that if a person gives saddaka he definitely doesn't lose But the for this is one other thing speaking about these three times in the year that we l later after [clears throat] the second day and if it's shabas You need more alias then you start from before. However, you always start from even when it's not shabas. Why? Why is it like that? Because it's a time that a person brings in his money. So we lay in to remind the person to give money to give sodaka of that if you give you're going to become wealthy is the same says also the but not the of the same also and the they all say the same they do see where is it when the Tyra says that it means that you're going to become wealthy this way where do you see it said they all explain the same that the Tyra is saying let's say you have a field with 100 core of Tua So mser is 10 core asser if you take 10 core off [clears throat] the hund which really comes out that the whole 100 is part of the mitzvah why you going to become a usher because it's what's going to be next year is going to be your whole micer meaning to say is this year you took 10 out of 100 next year the whole 100 is going to be a which means you're going to make a thousand. That's why the Torah is saying they also want to say that means that when you your whole field this year is going to be next year. That's how it's where the Torah says it's referring to to the everything becomes. >> The more you give the more you'll get back >> the more you'll have next year to give. If you give 10 out of 100, next year you'll have a thousand that you'll be able to give the whole 100 everything you have now. >> Yeah. And if I give 20 also I guess up until you know >> Yeah. They also say the flip side as well also that if a person doesn't give the miser then unfortunately next year what he was supposed to give me the hu 10% the 10 his whole field is going to be just my just the 10%. >> What she sayswhere else that the whole thing is going to >> be none of them actually bring it into now that if [clears throat] a person gives saddaka he becomes these the say become you become wealthy the shila is could you gift saddaka for that reason [clears throat] or could you give saddaka for a school of he made a for protection says somebody not only that if somebody gives that you're allowed to do it that there's no problem You're what's so already mentioned in the previous year says and he was doing it because that's the ine In other words, these are dual to give because on top of that also he's also giving you know spells it out. He spells this out. And he says like this [clears throat] you're giving the besides because you want to give because that's the rot and hashem you're also giving you have no person wants his name on the building that's he said alpha Of course, he's giving because that's the but on top of that also besides that he also warns that the should be made with him. So you says the same also and you mentioned this already that even if even though you have another kavana he brings a marshall aster you have a beautiful aster you're taking the aster because the is said to take an aster but on top of that also you have kavana mitzvah the kavana everybody should see you have a beautiful astric it's not mg and the mitzvah We see the garra says it's not just that it's the garra calls this person over there asks how could it be that he's the says he's doing it he's giving soda because he wants to become wealthy so I maybe he could do it but he's The says you're not supposed to do something to get a reward over here. You're doing it to get a reward. So says that this that the says don't do to get a reward is that if you don't get the reward you have that you did it but if you have it's okay with the would be this that it says don't do something to get a reward that's if you only do it for the reward but if you do it for both S for the rot besides that also for a reward that's besmer asks as well as here the gammor says that when a person gifts saddaka with an alternative motive, he has a different idea, a different re uh something else in mind why he's giving saddaka. He stole the mitzvah. They asked from the Gomorra. The Gomorrah says was going and he saw a lady collecting kernels in the garbage. This lady was the daughter of Nakim Bengurian and he was the furnace. He gave a lot of saddaka. He helped out. So you explain why was it that he lost his money? What happened to the money? He lost his money. Why? So the gar says cuz everything that he gave was he did it he gave the money to get honor. So that's why he lost the money since when is your prom to to do it. We just said the gammor says that you do the mitzvah to become wealthy that it should be gifted. You're allowed to give saddaka because you want to become wealthy. So what's the problem? Why did lose his money? Because he did it. What's the problem that he did? >> So you need a duel that you're also going to >> Oh, very good. Very good. Maybe you're going to tell me that didn't have both. only very good very good himself says maybe I'll tell you that over there it's he says it's not possible says one of the four people that the son was held up it's not that he did it only that he did it both also I hear but only he left out that he didn't even do it because that's the ruts in Hashem that's very hard it's not sh to say So, how do we understand why the Gomorrah says he lost his money because he did? How do you understand that he lost his money because we just saw that you're allowed to have another as well? So, they both answer which is a very scary terrorist. They both say that you can have another cavana included. However, if the other is that's a problem. If it's you have another like the Gmorra says a protection, you want to become wealthy, you do it to become wealthy, that's okay. Not only it's okay if you do it mitzvah and to become wealthy, you're sad. You're sad. However, if you give saddaka to get honor from it, that's already problematic. It's problematic to the extent not only but the gar says that lost his money and the em says that it's the says this the quotes it he brings from the when you give not to bear to to honor yourself then if a person does give soda to get honor to make himself with not only you don't have the even more that you get. So it's scary if a person gives because he wants to become wealthy. But if a person does it, not only is that he can even get he gets there is however another ter and he says that the the reason did it both but for him it was a tiny he was he shouldn't have done it a regular could do it for him. was a so this minimizes the even of a regular person wouldn't for him it was a [clears throat] even though it was together >> what say why is knock it out while everything else >> what's the time so they bring the what it saying >> so what does I looked they they quote he when he when he says this they bring I I looked over there I didn't see where he tes [clears throat] what's he gets on we said last week that a person has to know that the money that he has is not is really he's holding on to the money when he's doing it the he he's doing it because he's the he knows he the gave it to them no but he's giving it he has his name on the building What's what's the what's a person does not get even though the motive is very clear there is meaning it's not directly correlated to him it's it's more there's the code is solely for the individual opposed to having ulterior votage that's But you could do it for yourself also. You're allowed to give money because you know you have a mind when you give money you're going to become wealthy. You're giving money because you want to become wealthy. >> That's not covered. That's >> No, no, I understand. But I thought you saying cover the thing is for yourself. A person wants for himself the money also. So his goal is to put himself in a circumstance where he's going to get more, you know, let me stand up for the guy. He's in um um opposed to uh opposed to like okay I'm going to do this other thing I want I want to come to us here but it's not like his >> he's saying like anyway like he's in charge that's >> solely for his own personal benefit meaning for his ego >> I hear what we saying there what >> the is really him not the mama. Even though we said that giving saddaka we saw rashi we saw that if you give both to gain from the mitzvah is I raise but if a person only gives for a different reason he's talking but you still have the my it's very important to note this is it doesn't answer any questions but goes on to explain as well in another BI about it the son of the brings this in the name of his father that saddaka is different than other mitzvah by other mitzvah if you do the mitzvah even without the of why you doing the mitzvah you're taking the lul if you don't you don't have a mind you're doing it because the told you to take the dalim so why are you taking the minim gains, he benefits, he got money from this person. So even if you only had a mind that you had in mind that he should become that the person he has a mind he wants to become wealthy but since the po the outcome of the mitzvah is what's what's needed over here by what's needed is that the army should be fed. So even if the person the is giving the money and he has a reason because he wants to become even a bigger lama he's accomplishing that the that the army the army has food. Even though the Gumarus says that if you do it like says you have both in mind however even if you don't have you don't have that mitzvah still you still the mitzvah and they explain with this that we find was to the that the ye were giving shouldn't end up by by people that need it. The shila is and let's say it doesn't end up by people that don't that need it. If you give it's like you did it. So what difference does it make the it doesn't end up you have a mind to give you give the so they say knew that they didn't have a mind they didn't have a mind to give toi they had a mind for themselves it should save them if it would end up by an so even like we said now even if you don't have a if the po happens that the is you get even if a person doesn't have if money falls out of your pocket and on gets it he's so that it shouldn't the money shouldn't end up by there's no there's no for and if it doesn't end up by armies then there's no buten if a person gives for two reasons but even if you don't give it's still called considered it's not what it say >> two ways to get it basically >> if you give >> either you receive it or you give with the right intention either way you have >> right but if you give it with the right then you're says that even if you if you give it without the right it's not a mitzvah it's not so posh this that we said now that if you give if you give only to gain from it says you're not the mitzvah however just to conclude what we just said now is that if a person gives saddaka hashem and also for his own benefit And if a person gives only for his own benefit says not but what's important to note is that he's another level on top of if that somebody should give the without having a mind to gain out of the mitzvah. It's important to note that as well also speaks it out. Of course, what we just said now is that if you do it and also to gain, but he's definitely on top of this yet even more of a madrega just to give just because that's the