EATING ISSURIM AND EATING ON YOM KIPPUR SIMILAR OR NOT - Shiur by Rabbi Nachum Scheiner

As we continue our journey through Yuma, we hope to finish before Pes we're holding now before Yamipper and the EM is the whole we learned we should be that should be this year we should do that on the mikdash. We chose to skip to the eighth peri till the end of the pay and then at the end of the we'll go back to the beginning of the perk. The Gmorra on the is going back on the Mishna of the beginning of the peripur. The Mishna says the per called what does it mean? Two yippers. There's only one. in the beginning of is bothered. There's only one leer true says it's referring to also but what's so brings from the marile That is also for the mason to say is also for the mason. We're learning now the eighth. Why is not only for the live people, it's also for the mason. Before beginning this year, I want to take a moment to give a big yash to for being so devoted preparing Marus the pace setting up. The Mishna begins. What's the m where is the in the for? So it's twice in par thera says in we're familiar with the over there is the says after the 10th day thera says of the brings on This para that the is of course is an in when the goes through the so the says the 10th day this again is an to be to to But then the says if a person is not here a few mitzvah later brings that if a person is on he's over. So we have very clearly we're going to be learning exactly the details of but let's first know where the tells us and in par and this is a chorus. What's the definition of in the Tyra says? So what is in to be in pain to bear? So the that's the first half of the par that we're going to learn at the end. But the Gomorrah says when the Torah says to bear in pain you should sit out in the sun. It's uncomfortable sit in the cold and that's how you get the dinner. So the Gmorrah goes through back and forth and the Gmorrah concludes then in means something that a person would if he continues doing that he will die and the Gmorrah says a person will die says the Gmorrah that's if somebody refrains from eating and drinking so when the Tyra says What? What does means not to eat and not to drink? The garra continues on to later. And the gar says that included in enu is also the other inim all five enuand also that it's included in enu though it's a very big shil big if the other besides it or I theor works to include it in what the says but that's a separate discussion maybe there'll be a full a part of a it's a big discussion in the if the other besides even if it is there he's no of somebody's over on the other what's for sure is that when The Tory says is not to eat, not to drink. And that's the we're learning now. What's the but that's the for a person not to eat and not to drink. And if a person eats and drinks, he's being in declares the following shila. You see in when the Tory says don't eat don't eat on Pes over there it's clear the is the Tyra says don't eat the Tyra says don't eat and the same is also with a mitzvah when the Tyra says to eat matzah the mitzvah is to eat matzah What's about when the says what is the Tyra telling us? Is the Tyra telling us the same thing that these iser to eat on just like to eat is to eat to eater. That's one sad the same like any other or is the telling us a brand new den these are of the Garra wants to know what the Tyra says to be to be let's call it uncomfortable to be in pain how do you do that does it mean to sit in the sun no the way you accomplish that is by refraining from eating and drinking but the din is not about not eating the dinra is about being how do you accomplish that by not eating clear? Is it or is it au and the way you accomplish is by not eating a simple would be person's eating. What do you what's the is whoa whoa wait a second you're eating on or is not the eating is you're being that's not because if you if you give of the then you're saying if and also doesn't make because the is of chorus is to know that he's doing aid when it comes to of malus here is so inim they know if the person was amazed but we'll soon see >> these a lot a lot more >> minutes very good we'll get to that right away we'll get to that very good very good >> we're going to see there's going to be it's a say that it's and we'll be that's what we're going to speak about today what's together. This is the whole that we're going to be learning about. What's the when the says when the says >> you know you're saying that it's something which eventually would the person would die from that correct? >> So then what about IV? >> We'll see if we could get to IV at the end of this year. We're going to speak about it. This is a a lot. I don't know if could be the practical is going to have to go into another sh but let's see we're going to speak about the gather of what being on enri Ivy is a good chil a person needs it I is is different but what we're going to get about it but no we're going to speak about it we'll see if you need a also let's go but it's a good good aura says that This shila is a theor that if a person eats on he's not that's the garra speaks about if you could learn the den of eating on that potter could you learn that to call out what's The sha is if eating the eating on. So then you can learn from that if you eat means you're stuffed. It's not considered like you ate you're not over on eating on kipper. The same would also be however if oner it's a brand new of so maybe only when you eat when you eat you're stuffed and you eat you know why you're not over because you're not breaking the it could be even so says that it's You could see it inside the Yipper is a brand new den. It's a denui happens to be how do you accomplish enui by not eating. A person is over on enui by eating. But the den is Inui and we're going to see now. We're going to spend the next couple of minutes seeing clearly that it's a unique den of Inui number one like you mentioned before. So what's your name? >> mentioned claw you see that the ofer that's that's the is different than the other. Why is it like that? every other every other is all the why is it like that cuz the is to give it a sh if you eat less than a it's not a so is the a date a bigger the ter is like what the gmorra says we're learning it this week the garra says That is to calm a person down, to relax a person, to take away his enu. And that is not accomplished with just eating a kaz. You have to eat more more than a kazar and suka. We'll bring this garra as well. we're holding now in the parasa speaking about going back to so the shiv the gammorra says the shiv of aritrol is each one of the shiv gives us a different cheer obviously is kazar says the garra goes through each of the sam Then the garra says [Music] dates is a date explains like what we the us that the gar says the and that's if you learn that it's just like says so why do you have to have a she already have a being that it's a not that's the he's that learned out from the diner a mitzvah to eat. If the mitzvah is falls out comes from the mitzvah just like which means you have to refrain from eating not just you have to refrain from eating something that's yes to eat. It's not it's not it's to do that you do not have maybe you have to have a bigger another being that it's not it's a theam has the following chuva is actually speaking about tishab is applicable on tishab as well and he starts off with the following shil he wants to know he's speaking about himself he says that that tishov he's going to have to eat so he wants to know they asked him if they could give him an aliyah so really on a tinus a person that eats cannot get an aliyah he's not he's not the because he's not fasting however it's a big toml I'm just taking out one pointer and he brings a few reasons and it's a shah and his father-in-law argues but you know why I say I could get an aliyah and the same would be for kipper because even though a person who's eating a regular tusl but now he's eating so he doesn't have but he's the If it would be a so then I believe if it's a he's eating it's a being that it's a forever >> I think over there would be even more par you could but it's the same idea if a person you're asking what's if a person let's say needs to do needlessand one other of the other >> exactly the right if it would So if he's eating he's not if it's not he has other reasons also but he says if it's not you have other but very good if a person can't be different but yes not eating his face >> exactly so but he's still but as much as we're saying it's not There's still a big discussion that it could be these there is a that you need a brings the following and he says if a person covers the you cover the So, and you eat it, you pot because it's person wraps up. That's why sometimes if there's like a certain medicine, a pill that could be a serious shin if you cover it up. It's part because it's not an it's not it's not a normal way to eat to to have the food that you're eating wrapped up. Wants to know what's about when a person person eats it or he needs to could he wrap up the food and it's now right it's now we should all say okay it's but has nothing to do with that you relax if you eat it even if it's you should still be it's a diet a person eats a whole meat deal but it's wrapped up at the end of the day he's diet he's relaxed he's not IV will be a separate discussion not for right now but here you eating it we said there's no says that even though it's a but it's you have a you have to eat these meaning to say is The Tory says, "How do you accomplish the by not eating?" It's a and he brings a What's the even though is a different Yeah. You need to eat it in a certain that's so we know if a person needs to eat it they can eat spread out over time you need if there's no who cares you eat matzah you have to eat it so it should be counted as an so says even though we're learning and that's the but But tonight you have to have and therefore you need. So if you need that could be what will come out is that if a person eats on and the food is covered because even though taka he's breaking the but you have to break it with an you don't have an ail the bra argues and the bra says no there is no. No. If a person eats and the food is covered, you don't eat. It's only to calm yourself down. And even if the food is triple wrapped, it doesn't make a difference. The food goes into your body. It calms you down. What the says the food is what's the the for drinking that's less than a raas and to be counted you need a raas and here it's less than a raas says the you see that there's no ah Ah, why do you need a dinner? Says, "No, no, no. You know why you need a you need a because that if you eat something over a very long period of time, you're not going to have me. You're not going to be relaxed. So, it's not a the reason why you need to eat this this date, the shear of the date with the P. The reason why you have to eat this in a time of is because if you if it's dragged out, you're not going to have a soak what we have so far is to eat. The other that seems to be more the past. This is the dinner is how do you break the enu by eating and then we saw these are if there's a that you you may have to eat. Is there a tenai when breaking the enu that you have to eat but not that the isra is to eat is to break the enui on the note of enui there's a very interesting shim is it a 24-hour ui or the tyra says every minute you should be and And I'll explain. If the is every other if somebody ate should eat more garlic smell. You don't if you somebody ate you don't continue to eat and every time you eat you break the if somebody would be very clearly if somebody ate one time he had to eat is it over now he could continue eating or the says every minute of these He's a dini. Just on a side note, very posh. When the Tyra says to be inui, the definition doesn't mean to be starving. That's not what the tyra is saying. The Tyra is saying don't break the by eating. But the the in other words, don't do something that will be. And I'll explain when you come into and if you say before so how does it work the I mean the of only kicks in at 11:00 at night when you start getting hungry. If a person eats an hour into that's clearly a breach in in it's not when you're starving and then you eat that's that's where you break the ini. If that's a separate discussion, but if a person eats a to break the that's where he's overing over here. When a person eats onion kipper doesn't make a difference if he eats an hour in or he eats at 5:00 in the afternoon. Is there another or or 9:00 in the morning? It's not it's not the vert is not cuz he's starving again. When the toyra says inu is it a one time in for the whole kipper or is it each minute a separate in so this shil says it's a one time in for the whole the whole it's a one time in the if a person had to eat a person ate it's done the m the says no the is in every single minute he brings a ride a Gumar says but means you ate and then you remember you ate again then you on each one wait a second how you on each one I thought once you broke the it's over so you see clearly the in is on every single minute this answers and he says it's talking about one is eating one is drinking and that you that is separate but clearly we have a shila if The inu is in a one time inui that's the whole block of yamipper or it's each minute each second of yamipper has its own den thera is being on each minute of yamipper to be lastly and to conclude one more pointer for now in the din of inui being that yipper the iser to be it's not a wants to say the following. He says he's afraid to say it lisa mafino because I don't see anybody else saying it but he wants to say the following the in the to eat what is the is the is or the iser is meaning to say is when the says you're not eat. Where exactly does the is play out? When a person eats and it goes down his throat, he's enjoying the kaz or when it goes into his stomach. And the garra says the would be if a person ate a kazas aas and then he threw it spit it up. threw up that and he ate another kazas. If it's a nogis, he has agor of a kaz. He never had a kaz of his but says being that it's leve to relax yourself. It's not about in your throat if you enjoy the food. That's not the point. It's not it's not if it's you declare what the point in is what gives the in the throat in the stomach but if it's to calm a person to relax a person that's the bottom line it went into your stomach and it calmed you down. I think clearly that if a person eats a katias spits out, throws up that katizas and eats another katas, a person would be pottery says I'm not I'm afraid to say it but that's what you come out and says that a person's not over this exact of the He says you're not the brings from your we're not going to go into the it's already past 8:00 but the brings from the there's a big toml that from that it's actually a the other way around and the son comes he starts off I'm coming to to the rescue for my father and he of is actually to the somebody eats spits out the half a and eats again it's not going to be so just to conclude what we spoke the sh today is we're going to be learning now throughout the is not what the enu is or maybe even the Torah is saying is to be not to have it to be uncomfortable. How do you accomplish that? By not eating, by not drinking. My teachers I can't use CPS.