Avodah Zorah 44

Today's and we are at the Mishna three lines from the of today's being learned as so we're moving along in the third of which deals heavy with related to so the Mishna that we're about to start with right now is really a continuation of the previous Mishna. discussed what does somebody do if he stumbles upon he finds that have on it surro that suggests that clearly these caim have so the Mishna said if somebody finds and it has on it the pictures of the sun the pictures of the moon suras the pictures of dragons where you have to do is you have to throw it into the our Mishna is going to begin with a that is with the previous Mishna and it's none other than the Rabi said if somebody finds Caleb and it has that suggest so he doesn't have to take it and throw it into the that's a plan A but there's a plan B as well if he wants he can take the kay he can grind it and do zer. Zer is one of the lamentas malas. He could throw it up into the ear and let the wind scatter it wherever the wind scatters it or meaning he could be and then scatter it into the sea. So of course agrees with what the previous Mishna said and that is if he wants to throw it into the yama and have it never be heard from again but he doesn't have to do that. says if he wants he can grind it and do one or two things with it after it's already ground either throw it up into the wind or told I disagree because if you're going to do that who says what's going to happen is that the wind now says this comment is on the first thing said and that is if you're going to be then the wind may take it into a field somewhere it's going to become fertilizer you will benefit from him and the changes the from and the says have any from and this is something that can lead to having enough from and for that reason this is not going to be okay. So again the in our Mishna and really it's an extension of the in the previous Mishna are of the opinion that if somebody finds that have you have to just get rid of the ki throw the whole ki into the says that you don't have to do that if you want you could be if you want you can be and be seems to be on that's where they fight back and they say how could you do You may be creating fertilizer that is part and parcel and the Torah says which in English means not have any benefit from that is going to give us the more elaborate version of the exchange between and says the rai talks first in the and he turned to the and he said how could you tell me that it's user to take It's a says, this is talking. He says that you did that you created the I took and I burnt it in fire and I ground it until it was so thin it was mish like and then I threw the into the into the stream that was descending from the mountain. But what do you see from here that what did Moabu do with the ael? He took the he was right. That's in the and then afterwards he threw it into the this stream that was and allowed it to ostensibly maybe fertilize some area. The point is it's very possible that someone would have in some way had h from this andu didn't seem to be concerned. So if theel which is himself was so how could it be says that it's not okay to be now the truth is that the way we explain the now is the way explains the in the name of and really if you look at the bottom what exactly is trying to prove from that because really what seems to be at odds between and is could you bear or could you not bear says yeah says I'll prove to you you could where could I prove it from I could prove it from this wasn't it says clearly what he did what he did was now it's similar maybe to being but it's not what it was and it's for that reason has a big mist not sure how to figure And means which says he thinks is also it's a little bit later in the either way we explained it the way the re explained it which is that although it's true doesn't have a proof from that you could be but does have a from a because taking the and allowing it to flow down the stream the is something that could potentially cause you now to benefit just Like in a case where it's and if the are so sensitive to that then don't even be should not have been okay with that either did he did it to the means this in and of itself would have to be okay but either way after they heard this bringing from there's another that talks about the now the first we mentioned was that's the first is that's the first time it's mentioned in the it says burnt in fire again he ground it until it was so fine and he spread it on top of the water and he gave the to drink from it and say you know what that means What was doing was he wanted to give them water to drink with a little bit of in it. Where do you find water and that's the par of the And what's the reason that the drinks the me it's to be b it's for us to figure out it's some sort of diagnostic. Is she innocent or is she guilty? And that's exactly what was doing. He was giving them to drink cuz by them drinking was going to be able to figure out who worshiped the eagle and who didn't worship the eagle who has to get punished and who doesn't have to get punished. But what's the point of what are saying the saying that it's true the in seems to say which sounds like let it just do its thing similar to but that's really not what it was. The offer was taka thrown into water but that water was very much contained. In fact, it was given to the to drink literally that was the purpose of what this was. But I saw that in paras he talks a little bit about this. He says what was that? What was the first of all? What was the heart? It's right in the context of and of is obviously the mountain. It's the mountain ascended from it's obviously Hari, right? And it sounds like there was some there was a stream of water that was flowing down from Hari. Okay, you'll say maybe. Yeah. He says that the reason he has a little bit of a problem with that is because they have an Ezra in Paris and Ramb both say that one of the names that we find for is right midi is considered and the say the reason it was called is because it was and it was it was very now the midbar on a rainy day is so if this part of a midbar is referred to as says says must be it was so ticken. So where in the world is this coming? He brings a zeresh. He brings from Andra that seemed to have it's mashma from what they said that maybe this is coming from the beer. Was there even a miriam yet at that point? This is all going on classic in here. But either way, so this was the first time that the told, "How could you tell me that you're not let this is the first place you go to when you're thinking about anything related to back was that?" No, it's not a good came another time. He said the Pik says, "Now this Pik is a little bit more obscure." How much more obscure? So we went from to so what does the over there says? It says so the is talking about the king Assa. King Assa is one of the good kings right? So we know whenever you go through the Maluda there's the good kings and the bad kings. As is one of the good kings and one of his big avoid that he got rid of all the different right look just like so there were different kings got rid of all is one of the kings that's because he was now the pik says that one of the des that he got rid of was of his mother it actually means his grandmother. So the baba of had had this what was so it says she had made for she had made a so what does do with the mic and he ground it up and he burnt it into either way what do you see from here you see that you're allowed to take a des you could it and put it into the again a very similar kasha to the previous here too. You're bringing right from there that you're allowed to take up. Nothing is going to happen if you put it into the and you want to know why? Because the area is not fertile. And because the area is not fertile then there's nothing to worry about. What's the problem? But over here you have nothing to worry about. So, and this is a real these and these. Now, this is referring to the after there was always leftover blood. So, what they do with the leftover blood. So, they would pour it into the am. Now there were two on the and the or the is saying that the blood that was poured into one of the one of these uh pipes and the one that was poured into the other they would mix together and eventually they would end up in. And when they came to him, they would be sold to the farmers to the gardeners for them to use and concludes and says that Rashi says, by the way, we're not learning this now, that there's no real when it comes to it. It means no, but it's not the real of. But either way, what do you see from here? It sounds like it was sold to the gun in how could you tell me says the Gmorra that it's for that reason it was okay for Assa to do what he did you seem foolish that they were over there you see there were gardeners over there were different places within the region of there was an area there that was and there was an area that was not so again what's the saying don't bring me rise You see from you see from the B over there that it's not a because you could always say within that area was not this area referring to was says the mark could advance it even more who said the came from maybe the came from somewhere else They came to buy it and they brought it back home with them. That's where the says could have said it would have said it should have said it didn't say either way. So we just mentioned the of the we refer to it as a said it was something that was peladic. It was wondrous in terms of the level of late. So what's the rest of the story? What the aim did was she made like a fake zak and she was to the zakus that she had placed on this every single day. Either way, moving along in the said that you could take and this again is going back to a par. Now the POS we're about to read from is but the background is so let's read this first the is talking about and it says he got rid of all the he broke the and he chopped down and he destroyed that serpent had because up until that point the were worshiping it and he called it but the bottom line is we're familiar with right the were in the midbar and they were bitten by snakes and they didn't know what to do they needed some form of tells make this and you look at the and all of a sudden you're going to have this was a very imagine it's and it survived all the years and the generations The problem is in times of people will worship. You could see how a a generation that's steeped in the culture of idol worship and would uh find it interesting to want to go ahead and and worship this. So sees that there's a big that's happening because this is around. So what does he do? He gets rid of it. Right? Just listen to the it's important for the understanding of the why because then we're worshiping it. But the bottom line is is what did or what did I'm sorry do with it says he went ahead and he chopped it up. If he chopped it up then presumably he was also afterwards. And if he was also afterwards then you see that you could be he was now the truth is it doesn't say that he was that he was it's says that you have to say that usually if somebody grinds something what do you do just throw it up to the I don't know you just get rid of it what else do you do with it now if would have done something else with it like he would have thrown it into the yama then the would have had have said it from the fact that all it says says he didn't do anything that's worth mentioning something that you wouldn't otherwise have realized on your own he did so if the says it's he was this is accept it they say stating that is right from the air and what does the word mean it means that means who paid for the who paid it that means it belonged to if it belong to If that's the case, then no person that worshiped the years later would have had the ability to be able to make it because of one of the rules here in the Now, if that's the case really, you didn't even have to get rid of it. Why not? Because it's not like we saw in the he saw that the were worshiping it. So that's what he got rid of it. But at the same time in terms of it being it's not. So all you needed to do was get rid of it. Once you got rid of it, who cares? You want it to become zevil. Let it be. Let it fertilize your fields all day every day. We don't have a problem with that cuz it's not. What do you mean? Why is it not? It's always the answer is yes. But this is different. The reason this is different is because this belonged to because he contin and this is in it says it's talking about is fighting against the Philistines right that's one of the themes of the early years of the fighting against Philistines # Gaza right but either way so David Aamelik is fighting against them and they have all their kids and the says they left and what did it now if I asked you what does mean what would you say he carried them right it sounds like he carried them away but the says that's not what it means you know what it means it means he was even find why do you always find him brings in basically doesn't like it is because and there's a that you're not allowed to learn just like you weren't allowed to write you weren't allowed to learn and being that was a for that reason he became a he that's why you find throughout and all the interesting is things that you find related to he's the he's the no this is one of the things that is part and parcel of why does not like it by the way he says because we know that years later we were allowed to write today we write why so says if someone's a and he can't learn something it's going to be okay but anyway this is a says that is a inhale said you want to know what the target of that word is. So again, now here it only says that's the last part. But you see it's in the context of that's how you know this is what it is. But next I know you see it sounds like tell me that's not okay. You see it told him the says the says that what did took the and he burnt it. Now where's that? So that is in so again we have two of them. The first said, the second said the first was in the second by the way is a little relative to the rest of right. But the point is in it says but in it says coming back. You want to know what I think happened? I think what happened over here was is they re they burnt it and over here doesn't mean that he was something else happened. What happened was he burnt it. Now you're going to tell me what do you mean? Maybe does mean like you find. So we need this next line and they're preempting this. They're saying that doesn't say in the same meaning I know that could mean to be and that's where you come from. You see him in the context of a desire. Maybe that's what's going on. But let's be honest, that's the most simple. No, we said if you ask the man on the street, what does it mean by you would mean or you would think it meant that he carried it away. Let's explain this even a little bit better. What's mean? It means it could mean that, right? But what does it usually mean? He lifted it to lift, right? That's always what it means. So over here every time you find this every time you find this lush and literally in the this is what it means over here. But the reason is very simple. The reason is because means he carried it. What does it sound like? It sounds like THEY LEFT SAID LET'S TAKE IT BOOM. Let me take it. So that's where a little bit that something's uh a little bit off. Right. So that being that there's another Pik anyways that says and already tells us that he got rid of it. So says he got rid of it. So then I don't such a problem with he took it away because he didn't just take it to keep it because he's anyways burning it. So if all I would have is so then it probably means he was because what else does it mean? It means he took it away. I don't like that. But being that it's it also says so it's for that reason I'm more okay with this and just a little sharper because again you have to touch the lo that had it said in the same p would have said it in the same even then maybe I would have thought that what he did was he was a visar and afterwards he was a vis and why would you think that because once he burns it what's he taking with him right so again then I would say vis If it didn't say, I would think he was because the other side of him taking it I don't like. If it says I would also say because once he burnt it, what's he really taking with him? But it says one says, one says, so I think the way you have to learn this is means he burnt it means he took it. But does not mean that. But the Gmorra is still not happy with this. The says there's still a little bit of a steer because sounds like he burnt without seeing the sounds like he really took it with him. Could that even be? So says you have to say asked this that how do you answer the steer between these. So there was a Yid actually there was a guy whose name was and he had come along and we know a lot of and he works for this is like an and he has him being for him. So initially initially there was a feeling of you have to burn it. Why do you have to burn it? Because if nobody was you can't have it around. After came then already they were able to go with a different mahal. Oh, moving forward, we're not going to have to burn it anymore. You could stop burning it now. Already you want to just be and if that's the case, you could have from it. And if that's what happened, then you could already be in fact says there's already a came and he was being so this is referring to the crown of David. So the ping says about crown it was then it says it had very precious stone on it and it was mish on the head of David. This was the crown of David. Now David Amel's crown came from Malcolm. Now what's the rest of the story to do's crown coming from Malcolm? So Rashi says that it actually came from Malcolm but you also have to read this M. It came from the des of amidor was and that's where this crown had come from. So takes me right but also it's a play on words who is the that's what Rashi says. So ask how is used this crown that came from the for himself came again you see plays a role in this and that's the way you're going to be as it relates to those but here's the point the point is over there does not mean that what does over there mean by some over there means literally he carried it says We just mentioned the crown of so we're going to digress and talk about it for a couple of moments. The Pik says that a weight a kickers off. So I don't know exactly what a kicker is but it's very very very very very heavy. So the Gar asks, "How in the world was able to wear a crown that was so heavy al that the way that this was able to happen is that it was just done in a way where they somehow carved it that somehow it would fit." It was like a magnet of some sorts that was coming from the top. And that magnet somehow gave it uh some pull. So it was like hovering on top of his head somewhat. It wasn't like holding all its weight on its head. So you have the magnet that's fighting gravity. And like this it's somehow working. What it means is not that it weighed a Kiker ZV, but there was an Evan Yukur that had the value of a Kiker's worth of ZV, but it didn't weigh so much cuz had it weighed so much, it would not have fit on David's head. More about David Melik's crown. The Pik says, and this is not my what does this mean? So the says is referring to the crown of was talking about and he said you want to know why you had why you have this crown because of the that I kept your mitzvah it's for that reason it's for that reason that I have this crown and what does it mean I have this crown it means I have so means I have the crown. But not only does it mean I have the crown, it means I have the crown as an [ __ ] If you look at where does it say the word [ __ ] I don't even know where it says this. Doesn't say crown. And what does this mean? What it means is I had the crown as an either way. He had the crown. What is the adus is is that he was able to put up was able to work and this is says because really the crown was round but a person's head is not a perfect round but he was able to put it fill in somehow it covered that whole area and it was able to work so it was bed and the nest is the [ __ ] it's the miracle that David is worthy of being king by the way why does need an [ __ ] that he's worthy of being king so That's the paragoro where they questioned whether or not he was taky being king. But the bottom line is is that's what he meant to say. I had the crown which was aos that I'm the real it's not punked I have a crown and not even the fact that it's such an expensive heavy crown but it's an [ __ ] for me. That's the reason that I was like but where was it? It was filling. If it was fill then where was his fill in? It sounds like it's in the place where you put the fill in. So if it's in the place you put your fill. Where did we know this, right? Once upon a time, people used to wear two pairs of fill. That's the real way to wear by the way, right? To wear at the same time. But that's what went on over there. Another on this note says the what are these things referring to is a crown is that whoever wore the crown of it's not just a crown it's an [ __ ] there's a needed it but really every king afterwards the fact that the crown fit him was a sign that he was fit to be king So we know after passes away become the next king but really wants to be the next king. What does this mean? What it means is that he was trying to put the crown on his head. He was trying to carry the crown. He was trying to wear it. Didn't fit. And that was an [ __ ] that he was not worthy of being king. of one last little digression here related to says the he had and 50 people that were running in front of him. What's the grace of 50 people that are running in front of him? We learn they were all missing their spleens and not just that the bone on the bottom of their foot was taken out as And the reason is like this. They should be able to run very very fast. They should be able to run on top of the thorns and they shouldn't be able to feel it either way. Some of the mice and een that took place with the mal of do by the way a lot of these in we learned together not so long ago. Again, what's the recap of today's or the first part of today's whether if somebody finds do you have to take it physically and throw it into the or is there a plan B which is you can't why you can't say and you're going to end up having from it and it says and in the B and any rias and these are all rias number one the isn't that what did with the right now he didn't take it and be but he threw it into the so didn'tu do that what respond it was contained he put it into a whole idea was to do for the his second ria was from the aim of who had this mletus but either way that's what she did and what did one of the great eradicators of he takes it he grinds it up and he puts it into the said there's no right from is an area that is not so there's no zevel going on over there this is not something that you're ever going to be able to get anything from because he saw the other worshiping it and he did the same exact thing to it says probably says he Oh, that wasn't because that belonged to why they get rid of it to it. But really, it's not a real mean probably doesn't mean he carried it. No way would have taken it. Mor says, "No, I saw him over there does mean he carried it." All right. What do you mean he carried it? No, because in another passing it says how do you reconcile the tube? took him till it haggiti came. It was Visar and once it came he was at that point they were a little bit more comfortable but either way varing around a little bit of Tanak to try to bring to this regardless we now turn our attention to which is a classic philosophy means a type of or he was a SL it's the same thing but the bottom line is this person asked me a while was bathing in the merk in the bath house of Afroditi so Aphroditi was a Greek/ Roman gatka and it seems that one of the places where there was this Aphroditi a desara had courtyard there was a in there was a and is bathing in the and sees and he tells him what's going on over here I know it says now have any from how could you have from the aren't you benefiting from he told him so I'm sorry I can't respond to you in when he walked out started being mish of him. Not only did he stop being m of him, he brought him a whole bunch of he started giving him share. He told him about he said number one I didn't enter its shear entered my what does that even mean says that what it means is the was there before the des not the other way around meaning if there would be an aid and then they would build a to the would be But that's not what happened. What happened over here is the mess was there first and then they built this in the being that they brought the to the does not have the ability to make the and because no one has a right to go ahead and bring up a desert to an area to make that area also. Reminds me I once saw in a safer that somebody once asked the Kaz that there was like a something going on in and it seems that they were there and they asked the Kazh if you're allowed to talk and learning because there's an Indian that not let learning someone asked Kaz is it appropriate or is it not appropriate and the Kaz said that one pruda doesn't have the right to go ahead and be from their and say that this whole area all of a sudden is not going to learn the but this is the first that he said the second that he told him was says besides is not an adorement right it's not you don't take and say I want that to be the for the afroiti the aphroditi was actually used to bash the but not the other way around so he said I don't see this mess in any way as an ancillary for the afroiti and if it's and I don't think this is a problem. Another he said was he says I want to ask you something Mr. He said, "If people would give you a lot of money, right, I'm confident that you wouldn't enter your as urinating in front of it." Yet the zoomedib this stands, this statue, it stands at the bib by the sewer that schles all the water out of the and everybody is mashed in in front of it. And if that's the case, he said, I don't think there's a problem. Why? Because the P says and we learn from there that if you know, but in that instance, it's going to be either way. So fascinating in exchange between a fellow incidentally is a little bit of a shaw whether Benos is his name. Meaning his name is Prolo and his father's name is Phosphosus. These are Greek names obviously, but this is their name. Or some say Fosus is Mashian philosopher. So he was a Ben philosophus like you say a Ben. So he's a a Benfos. Regardless, they have this exchange in the Afroditi. He comes and he says what's going on over you're in the Afro having I can't talk. Then he tells him already he says now three times number one the came first so no person has a right to bring a that's now going to make an area to number two he said I don't even think it makes sense that the should viewed as as a as an adorement as an ancillary to the other way would make sense but not this way and number three you don't treat it like a and if you treat it like is going to be but the asks How was allowed to even respond to America Doesn't matter if you say or if you say either way this is going to be a problem. He said to how is this okay it's an if this is happening in this should be something that you're not allowed to do says theoram when did he tell him what he told him he told it to him when he left there now I just want to be clear the mission itself you see that rabbio started talking and learning when he left the merits right what was response told is on the original of that's also and on that this was not but this was that one line of is not something that he said in right you can't say you're not let talk in America it's in America That is in and of itself. So when did he tell him? He told him when he went out. Incidentally one interesting thing you see in the Gar there was like a fleeting that maybe the only time you not let learning in America is if you speak but now this opens up a whole of there being some inherent sanctity and toes. Now when we learned we went through this fact we did part one, part two, part three and part four very much related to these few lines. GMR over here because in this Gar you see that there's at least a maybe to talk in learning in America but to talk maybe that already not either way. This is false. So said in the name of what does mean that's the truth right asks Rashi in a bunch of places says is shamed in other places Rashi says it's means godhuda said that what is it when it says it's shamed but if it says like it can't be because you don't find anyone that has two names what's the for that that's already he has this dig piece about two names in but either ways said that heman that when spoke to this heman and he gave him his answer the answer that he gave him was a truva said in a geneva it's not you have to get the names here it's the same go the Rabbi said that this Mishna was a chuva but I hold it's not a chuva ganua. So first things first what does it mean? So if you take a look at rashi Ibraas ganu this is a kashiash he wasash meaning he knocked them out was kash mean straw like in a in a way that was seemingly very frivolous but really what he told him was not real. meaning I think the more precise way to touch you would think is like he was going right but that's what it means it means that he was going from he didn't give him a proper answer he didn't t has a different shot we'll see where came to his shot from the itself but for now let's go so said I heard say that this gave to this heman was a ga what's the going to have four differentars What was the he said? Because what say right? It was the third that said to that was the truth. What was the third time? You want to know why I'm allowed to bathe over here? Why there's no problem? It's because look at what's going on over here. They're not treating it like right. What was the truth? If someone's that means he's not treating it like aka said in a different context he says I don't know what the context is but in a different context I have they used to defecate to everyone knows that's what they used to do it didn't become bottle right you would think if somebody does a just the opposite this is what it is but the point is that you see from that if you're mashed in it doesn't mean mean that you doesn't mean you're acting disrespectfully towards it. This is how desire it's a whole different business in that world and that business. This makes perfect sense. So it's a true he's telling him this is not a problem because not treat is like that said I hold that as much as I it's not and the reason is different that's the way it for all its shortcomings it seems like that wasn't the proper way of being and if they were no problem then it must be something that they're And if that's the case, it's not included in the but either way. So says, I heard from that said that it was a chuva. I wasn't avua. He explained why thought it was a trua and why he holds it's not a chuanova. It was based on the third of the third is reason that you not what about and why is it not says because is different that's said I think that what was saying was really something else the reason he thought that it was a true is the what say he said right which was is this was the first the first Tina was that the only time this would be a problem is if the mess came into the of Afroi but if Afriti came into the of the like Rashi said right that's why this says right so so why would this be just because it was does that in of itself mean that it's a problem meaning another It sounds a little bit It sounds a little bit like what is saying is that were it in the reverse there first and then came then it would have been a problem. Is that true? that has as long as you're not going to be to the that's involved with that but you can't have if you're going to be but what do you see from here you see from here that if you're not to the that's associated with even if was there first so said it's not accurate so you see it's not accurate if it's not accurate that's why it's a true I hold it wasn't a true because the reason is that because just by him bathing there even if he's not to anymore it's the equivalent of because they're going to what's the mak the kimer they're all having enough from it rubber gum wheel you heard who bathed in my bath house rubber gum wheel wow breaking news so that's a huge deal and it's for that reason even though rubber gum wheel of course was not going to be macro to anybody but he was saying good was at the end of the day if would have been there first then it would have been a problem the reason it would have been a problem was is because once I'm bathing there even if I'm not having to the but at the same time it's it's going to be the equivalent thereof tus jumps on the way rashi just learned the scamar and typhus says now I understand chuvanuva trying to figure out what was the truva in the second by his understanding you know what the truvanuva was chuva was that was trying to be mash of himself he's explaining How could he bathe in this bath house, right? What happened to those say it's not a problem. You know why it's not a problem? Because who came first? The came first came first. It's held. You know why? Because it's mash that if would have been there first. It would have been not true. It still would have been because not being to the say it's not true. He would have been m let's say how does the make a truva so adab if anything rea could have said better but he's not giving him where's he been going means he's fooling he's faking out he's not faking him out to the contra he's being generous he's saying that had been diverse it would have been a problem should mean that me and you are having an intellectual debate and I tell you something and I'm tell you this is the way it is and you take my word for it. Okay. So yeah, I'm going to do but over here there's no d because if anything he could have said even better for himself not better for so says because of this you have to say that doesn't mean it's not of but rather he says the word sometimes means to conceal there's an idea of sometimes you conceal something where you don't show your whole hand where you're not 100% forthcoming. That's all he meant to say. He meant to say wasn't giving him share, right? Didn't sit down and say, "No, let's open up two and let's go through the together." That's not what he was doing. He was like being a little bit not me. I wasn't fooling him. If anything, he could have said better, but he's not showing him his whole hand because like why should you like me? Why would I show my whole hand to the [ __ ] But really it's not so much from the in the argument component either way and what the that saw in this was that right what was the third the third was that who cares if somebody spits in front of or if he slept but he threw or right he threw it at it. It's not bottle. What do you mean it's not bottle? It's not ble because it's not considered that you like disrespected. Right. Things like this happen sometimes between you and your and as a result you see from here that it's not considered that you didn't treat it like right because if being means I'm not treating it like a gko then it means I acted disrespected if I act disrespect you should be considered a see it's not considered and this said people get angry at and then afterwards they make up they become friends again but over This was something that was a regular occurrence, a thing that was a regular occurrence. It's for that reason this here was already different. You want to know where the was referring to was as it relates to it was the following he told him it was the second of the three tas of and that is the is not ancillary it's not an adorment to the if anything the would be an adorment to the now what does it sound like it sounds like what would be if Somebody would say I mean people don't say no one says let's make the what would be if somebody would say let's make the it sounds like then the would be right that's what it sounds like why should that even be any impact if somebody says I want this house to be of a desire I want this to be a desire it's nothing meaning we know one of You don't have to do a all you have to do is talk. But when it comes to it means nothing because you don't have this concept of when it comes to okay so what's the is telling I can be in the bath house. You know why? Because the merit is not it's not a it's not an adorement of the right. It's not an adorment of the because nobody will ever say oh it sounds like if you would say then already it would be a problem even then it wouldn't be a problem. Why ain't hector and if that's the case? So that's the here too I have that is not the way Rashi learned cuz again this is a case where could have said better for himself is not that he was him with a nothing he just wasn't showing him his whole hand if he wanted he could have been a little bit better he was a little bit but he didn't want to show him everything but either way the says that said I hold the And the way Rashi explains is is that that's true. Simply saying the words of would mean nothing because it's not when it comes to but bathing there. Bathing there is a the actual bathing is a and if the actual bathing is a a being so that would be the and that's where the problem would have been. the ter is the mess is not considered annoy not just the the actual but even the bathing in the mess and it's for that reason this is something that's not going to be a problem so either way in this mishna we have this very interesting exchange between the hegmo and who mysteriously was bathing in the sheli in the city of ao sees him and he says what are you doing here and his problem is says I can't talk. They go out of the he tells him I'm sorry I couldn't answer you earlier because of right more clarified that that's how the sequence of events took place and then he told him I have three reasons why this is not a he said number one what came first the came before Afr doesn't have the ability to go now and beam and say no one's allowed to bathe over here number two he told him that the merk is not a a dorm not a t Aphroditi Aphroditi is a of the And number three he told him you don't treat it like an you would never be mashed in front of your yeah people have no problem being mashed in over here said that there was a mess for who said that this was a truva the time over here was a trua and there were four different in the what might have been the the truvanuva right where exactly was the first time it was or the first in the gar was based on the third time of rabl that Because you're mash that means not. What about par used to be mashed? What would be the reason that it's not really avu? It's not really dark as opposed to when it comes to aphroditi which it's already not dark. The second Tina that Gumar said was that Kubi was a truva because it was a little bit mashma. It was a little bit mashma that had the Aphroditi been there first and the meat second then what was doing was a problem and we know it's only a problem if you're to the why would that not be a chuva because being there without being to the is the equivalent thereof of being mak to the third mahalak and why this would have been a a chuva ginuva is again based on the third kind of rabb saying that because you're mashed in that means that you don't treat a guy It's a if somebody's you see it's not a to say now that's because you had a little bit of an argument but you make up afterwards but this is called this is already different and then finally the fourth said and why the chuva might have been a chuva gin is because said no one ever said as if to say if you would say it then it would be a problem. There's no merely very concealed. He didn't mean saying those words. He meant that no one would ever suggest that the be by you bathing there. Now maybe that's a misa where you're somehow by shining it and that's what the issue would be as it relates to the four possibilities of the chanuvas. Two of them were chuvas where Rabum seemed to have been fooling pras and fus by making his sound better than it really was. Two of them sound like he was actually tining not as good as he could have t it. Rashi said means he was it garnished that works for two out of four. It doesn't work for the others. Ty says it means something else just means it was like a hidden chuva. didn't he he was mass some of the details but he didn't want to share with him all the details.