Inside ArtScroll - Season 5 Episode 5: Rabbi Heshy Kleinman - Living With Hashgachah Pratis

[Music] Hello everyone and welcome back to Inside Arts where the books you read and the people who write them come to life. Today I am privileged to be joined by Rabbi Hashi Klyman, author of many popular books including a brand new volume called Living with Hashem on Hashkahus. How are you Rabbi Kleman? Pleasure to be here. So nice to see you again. Thank you. Uh we've still enjoying your previous books. Uh we're here today to talk about your newest right living with Hashem which is on the topic of I know you've covered many topics over the years in your books in your speeches and so on prominently which is something that you brought so much inspiration to. Thank you. And today you're very focused on hashkah which I think every from is on some level but you've made it almost like a campaign of yours. talk about what got you into it and then what people will gain from this book. Okay. Ironically or not ironically but Hashka Prates is the way I got into Hashkah. Uh about 12 years ago uh I was contacted I think by Jonathan Rhoden Bloom I believe. Uh he was putting out the first volume of CL perspectives and he asked me to write an article. Uh but at that time my daughter, you know who that is, uh was getting married. Mhm. And uh when I sat down to start to write something and then we had an interruption and I I called him back and I said, you know, I I my head's not there. My daughter's getting married in four or five weeks and there's just too much going on. I won't be able to do the justice that I thought it deserved. And oh, the topic was the disconnect uh that exists. In other words, Hashem Cly is wonderful doing mitzvah and learning to and this and this and but there seems to be a disconnect. Okay. And through the years I kind of noticed it that there was this disconnect when I would go to different communities speak in different places. It just you get the vibes that there's a disconnect. Well, what what do you mean by disconnect between one and one? Okay. And Rab Va Miller is very big on this. an awareness of uh hashkis and of spirituality in the world. In other words, we do mitzvah almost in a vacuum. And we do the mitzvah. We wrote almost the mitzvah. That's an it's an old thing. That's many things written about that. But we kind of don't connect with the fact that the aisha is here. It's funny as little kids we all know the song but when we become adults and we stop singing we lose focus and lose sight of that particular aspect. Now less one say that that's not a part of amun but the truth is the ram says that it is and levenstein and all the big bala the bal have written about it for many years vulva was very big on this and it's something that it kind of got gets lost in the shuffle and again we're doing a magnificent job arch gold is part of the region because of all the wonderful swarm that they make available to everyone in their language in in the mode in the way that whether it's in a book in English they're able to get into the medish into the gam the uh the agata there's so many things that does to make all the swarm and and the hashkov available and if I may mention yes over the last few years I've observed let's say just in the world of art scroll yes there's been a proliferation of books and on the topics of especially especially correct and that kind of dovetales perfectly with your focus on on correct right that's correct so people are now uh aware of it it's not all the way back here in their mind and this is not a criticism it's you know I I speak in the shool that that uh you know every single shabas in Jackson and that's correct and I was once uh I mentioned something and somebody came over to me and says, "Oh, that's Musa. People don't like to hear MS." I said, "You're absolutely right." I said, "But let's just give it a different perspective. You know what MS is? M is that we are unbelievable in this day and age of each generation. You have to look at the generation. We are unbelievable. Call yourself. Unbelievable. Can you imagine people that have so much more to be able to accomplish and they may be unaware of that or the strategies, the tools, the vehicles. Musa to me is you're wonderful and you know how much more you can accomplish. You know, as greater you can be for yourself, for quality yourself, bring that's like Wahhabil. If I said, you go over to a wealthy guy and you say, you know what, I've got an unbelievable tip. Now, here's what you need to do. You need to sit down with an adviser. You need to read a couple of uh I don't know, portfolios and and and rearrange things. It'll take a little bit time, but after that, you'll be on easy street. So, somebody wouldn't say, I want to hear what you have to say. So Mus to me in my mind it's not it's not pointing out the it's pointing out how wonderful each person is aim each person we're called we all have unbelievable abilities which the gave us let's utilize it to do even more so that's kind of like from where where we're coming from to just make people aware of the that they're focused on amuna. Wonderful. That's great. And it's helped. You're right. And now let's point out some of the aspects which they can connect with to enable them to go to the next step up the ladder. So in practical terms, what does this book do for the reader? Okay. So first we talk about in the first chapter be assemble talk about um how each individual has has within them the ability to do unbelievable things and often times the abilities are dormant. They have not been tapped into. Uh just like again in so many different areas I I mentioned in in building wealth. What about child rearing? If somebody would have told me things that which I still don't know but which I may have recently read but if somebody would tell me that you know I would say wow you know what I could have I could unbelievable what I could have been able to accomplish. So it's it's just a focus of of uh bringing again making people aware of certain things and and uh you know trying to get them to connect with certain concepts. Now let's let's go back to the drawing board. Okay. Hashkah hashka for the layman out there. Okay. What what is hashkah? What does it mean? And how do we apply those concept to our life? Ashkahus means everything, everyone, every place, every moment is provided by every moment. It's not like God pressed a button and then he went out to lunch and it comes back and oh good, he's happy to see that the world is running. every moment without the aa in effect willing that moment there would be to vivo there'd be darkness and and the bus would fall off the rails. So it's the fact that which means that every moment has spirituality embedded within it because if the aub is so to speak willing each moment that means each moment comes from our now we don't see things that way for one basic reason if it was so clear then we wouldn't have and we would have we wouldn't have reward with the whole reason that the aister in effect really created us. It's because right and like discuss that there's cause and effect. That's correct. Them put into the world a system and that camouflages his omnipotence and his his his running his running of the world everything else right is for us to be able to find ways to connect with that. So everything the fact that I even decided to write this book theim that I may have looked into the people that I met I'll give you an example. Okay so we started Thursday night in Jackson a couple of weeks ago we'd like to have a vad we call it a vad uh with the people living in I live in Whispering Hills. So what do we do? What's the VAD? So although it's the beginning of November and it's a little bit cold, but there's a fire pit in someone's backyard and they bring food uh the first week. But yeah, someone bring a guitar and they're hanging, chilling, whatever they call it. I'm a little bit older than I was going to say. Yeah. When I walk into the meeting, the mean age goes up like, you know, 39 years, you know what I mean? Um and then I say to them, ask me whatever you want. Fire away. There's no topic. I'm out there to talk about the Pa whatever you want. Whatever you want to talk about and we talk about absolutely primarily. Yeah. Everything. So the first question the first week which was a wonderful question uh how do we understand what was going on in Israel with the the the he crimes and and and the slaughtering and then the little babies. So right away my first answer was if I recall and I believe this is in the end of the book they told us Aaron had said after the marone tragedy that we say we do not say right away off the bat it's not for us the thoughts are the depth is very deep and quite frankly I would never think that I know how you guys do the wonderful things that you do because I might be a bright guy. Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. We can debate that. But I never created something like you guys have which is what you do is unbelievable. So no one's created a world. You know what I mean? So the so we might want to have some insight to understand how we should react to things. But to suggest this is this makes sense. So that basically what I told him and then we started to talk about somebody asked me a different question. We started to talk about Ashkahas. So one guy says to me I have a great Ashkah story. I said so let me hear and let me I'd like to share that story with you and with the people watching this. Okay. He told me that when he was 19 years old, uh, one long Friday night in the winter, he was sitting on the couch and he was going to be right, but he had the whole night to do it. So, he's sitting on the couch and he's thinking to himself, should I get up? Should I do it? N, you know what? I'll get up. and he picks himself up, goes to the other end of the couch where the humish is next to the uh small table next to the couch, gets the humish and sits down there at the other end of the long couch. 10 minutes into his being mobed the cedra, the other end of the couch where he was lying down with his head at top a pillow at the end the other end of the couch which happened to have been right next to the wall of the dining room which had a floor to ceiling mirror. The mirror all of a sudden 10 years after it was installed comes crashing down right where his head was on the other end of the couch. He is over here shook up. Everybody comes running in. Are you okay? Are you okay? He's okay. A little bit shook up. And then he kind of collects his thoughts and he realizes had I not gotten up to go be maded when I did then I still would have been lying down over there. By the way says that someone's there you go. When I looked at him I said we got to get this one into the book. Uhhuh. So this is a couple of weeks ago literally. So I've uh suggested this story going over with my wonderful editor from Mko Bzan the next couple of days and I'm going to substitute that further because that's a remarkable remarkable story. So you know tell me if I'm wrong. I think there's there's somewhat of a misnomer that Ashkahus is where things work out the way you wanted it to or things you know kind of there's always a happy ending. Okay. Really in essence in principle is telling us of Hashem's control of the world regardless of how things play out or how we feel they should play out. said that does not mean just because the abish is doing it does not mean it'll work out the way you want to right now. Okay, I'll give you another idea. I'm not talking about because I know is a separate discussion according to the shittas that hold that if you have proper on the very high level you could actually you know bring bring about a cause. I'm not getting involved in that in that conversation. So there are different ways to interpret the meaning or to define what it means also means it takes a whole lifetime which means it'll be good now we won't necessarily see the good it's more than this is what the wants the is a total mive a perfect mate and therefore it'll turn out well for you. It may not turn out well right now. And the book is Hashem will have uh at least 125 stories. I got a whole bunch of great stories. I ain't going to say it now because then let's hear what what's your best one? Give us Oh, I Okay. So, one that comes to mind is a story with uh with uh his name with Mosha Salvich and uh he was a very wealthy uh timber merchant and all of a sudden in the days of he loses his money. They convened a court because this guy was a real real good person, you know, he get stuck and everything. How could this have happened? What? He lost all his money suddenly. So by the way when he lost his money with a very bright guy he sat down and he started to learn he wound up uh becoming a member of the bezden and they convened uh uh I guess a bezdon for the lack of a better term to understand what happened and the only conclusion they reached was he gave too much stucker supposed to give a certain amount and he gave too much so said that can't be so here is someone no longer has his uh timber business. He's learning. His kids get into learning and his son marries daughter, I think it was. And then he becomes the beginning of the brisk dynasty. Lost at the time look terrible. Could you imagine if you say to someone, okay, 30 years, 20 years, 50 years, whatever it is, wealth, but you won't have that. That's the way the worked out. You got to read the story in the book to see why that but that's the so yeah the gar that says that the word ms is spelled alf me to first letter of the hebrew alphabet the middle letter of the hebrew alphabet and the last letter the word three letters relate to each other this is also in the What's the hasha behind it? So there are several explanations. I'll give you one which is in this particular day in the book. She abounds. You can find it. They're all there. It's all over the place. Okay. That's corporation, right? MS. If you want to get the MS, you got to go from the beginning. You got to know the beginning of the story. Mhm. the middle and you also have to wait for all the way at the end and you'll find out the MS. It might take a while. If you look at the olive and the mem you won't get the MS, but you've got to go further and you've got to go further and you have to give it time to develop. I would I would add that we're not always in our lives to see the tough, right? It's not always the case. We are asked the question of sad later said if I tell you to answer I have to dismantle the world. So again it's the aish world he created the world nobody's done it. So so now having said that now let's take a step back. So we understand it but we understand it intellectually says was called a mime. So, here's what I told the seems to me and this was at the beginning of the war. Seems to me that if I had to pick a generation that I'm familiar with, I would say our generation we're like, we're mim 100%. But m of course we're like it's it's a tough nut to crack. Yeah. our gener take a look the generation bened unbelievable I remember over 50 years ago my rebi once gave I may have said this the last time I was there I don't remember and he changed the smoo this is because of someone who was went to rebi the week before said I'm having so much difficulty the the yam no wrong coming up and I'm feel I'm not good enough and then like uh you know what I mean I'm I'm I'm being mi I'm giving up says please don't ever do that. He's not the only one but that's the one that I can recall. Please don't ever Jews are never supposed to give up. So changed his to say that we have to do chadic. You know something in our generation the people that are watching this now I must tell them they're all sadikim sadikim. Are we perfect? No. But that's we're down here and the a created us with the don't forget that sodic falls seven times but he still called it sadic. So as I think what was missing in so the stipler on says it was a yeah he understood it he learned about he understood it but it was it was an intellectual concept we know what all the bal say the most important thing is it's got to you internalize it yeah you got to internalize So how do we internalize it is being chased by his son and yet he should have said lamentation if it would have been but now that it's his son wow that's the reason for a mismo so the obvious question is that's not a reason for a mis your son premeditate So Rabion I says an unbelievable shot. He said of course it was a difficult his son is trying to go after him to kill him but he saw it was so unusual was so out of the ordinary when things happen out of the ordinary we see clearly. It's like when miracles happen we also see clearly yamm. Wow did hey you know what happened? Can you believe it? What happened was wow that is remarkable. Wow. Oh, my daughter became a and you know how you know what happened? She wow that is remarkable. Okay, you know what happened? It was an accident. But then, wow, that's really Oh, we're not to miracles, but what we are to is the moments. And just like because he saw so clearly, he was so happy. He knew that. No, when you know the is with you. You have hope. You know that the the big ofay he's with me. He's not a he's mish. He is the director, the producer. He is doing everything. All the little moments, the nuances, all even yes, even the difficult part. There must be a ronius reason otherwise he would not have willed it now for me. I want to point out you mentioned Rabbi Miller before Rabbda Miller. Um one of the one of the things Rabbi Miller was able to teach Kalis was that we don't have to wait for those moments to recognize. Maybe Rabbi Miller more than anyone else in our in the previous generation in our time was able to highlight the presence of duram in every facet of our lives from our health to our sustenance and so on and so forth. The watermelon, the potato, yeah, the apple the apple so on and so forth. That was that was really what what what his message was. Um, so, so we don't have to wait for the for the abala moment, you know, we don't have to wait for the tragedy and we don't have to wait for the for the miracle to to see the yashm. We really could see the absolutely right. But you know something, just like the ordinary moments happen, the out of the ordinary moments happen so frequently. That's how I'm able to have 125 stories. Stories. It just takes it's a question of recognizing. Yeah. I I've got so many in my family. I'm sure you have in your Here's an example. The Thursday night story where we got around not to talk about that. Wait, then then somebody else said, "Oh, I have a story with my grandfather who was in the Russian army and and I got three or four stories just by people getting together." It's it's a function of being aware of something. If we're aware of it, then we start to look for it. And if we start to look for it, we begin to notice it. And when we notice it, we internalize it. And if we internalize it, we move up that proverbial ladder where was and were able to reach the heavens. We're able to connect with the Right. Right. I would I would mention we're talking about um I think in the last years, let's say the I I'll bring up one story, the story of Khubashkin specifically. Interestingly enough, and I think he lives not not far from you in Jackson. His story his story is in the book also. It is. That's correct. At the end, but but wouldn't you agree that his story resonated so widely with people because they saw the tangibly someone who lived it and still lives it and uh and how he was to the Yeshua and it it gave people a lot of in that in that fashion. Right. Right. Right. Right. We we have the story with the when President Truman recognized the state of Israel and the State Department was against it and how did it happen? So, President Truman had a friend Eddie Jacobson who was a non-religious uh Lower East Side Jew who moved in 1913 to Kansas City, which is where Harry Truman was living. They went to school together. They fought in World War I together. They started a habadasherie store for three years. It wasn't successful. They went their different ways. Harry went into politics. Uh Eddie Jacobson did something else. And in 1948, Harry Truman is the president. And but the State Department wouldn't let anybody talk to Harry Truman about recognizing the state of Israel. So somebody remembered that there was this year. Wait, didn't President Truman have a friend, a Jewish friend, Eddie Jacobson? Yeah. So, they contacted him. He calls up the president. The first thing the president says is, "But we're not going to talk about the state of Israel." Eddie Jacobson says, "Fine, but can I come see you?" People did not want the president to see him. He said, "He's an old friend of mine. We started a business together. How can I not see him?" Mhm. And he comes to the White House and Truman Hashkah brought this happens to have a bust of I think it was Andrew Jackson on on the table behind him. Eddie Jacobson asks President Truman, "Who's that?" He said, "That's my hero." Jacobson starts to cry. He said, "Well, I have a hero, too. Who's your hero?" Cam Whitesmith. Would you please speak to Cayenne Whitesmith? Well, I mean, I can't have my one of my best buddies crying. I'll talk to him. He talks to him. And now, that's not that's only one aspect of the practice. The other aspect was in 19 uh I forget the year. It's in the book. Truman was down and out. He was depressed, had no job. He was down and out sitting in his mother-in-law's kitchen. that's also in the book. And somebody calls him up and says, "We need someone to run for the local congressmen in in would you run?" And some, you know, one of these powerful men in the I think in the party, I don't remember, says, and I'll back you. Truman wins. And Truman becomes years later the unlikely vice president of Roosevelt. So Truman getting into politics was all because he was down and out with no future starting to get depressed. There's so much hashtas in this. It's like and and you go wait I mean this is remarkable right? So it's Hashkahus is all around us. Yeah it is all around us. And I think today I you're you're older and wiser than me. Um I think I'm I'm older. I I have more gray than you. That's correct. I think one of the tactics of the today is that he makes us so busy and so harried that he doesn't allow us to stop and see what's in front of us. Like you were saying, there are moments that are obviously uh orchestrated from above, but uh Yates just keeps us on this this this this deal that I'm older, but I'm not that old. That was the deal in Mitraim. Keep them busy. Keep them busy. Keep them busy. By the way, the title of the book is living with Hashem colon and in smaller living with clarity and connection. We don't have clarity because the HR sends so many obstacle there's confusion. If we had clarity, we would see clearly and it's all in front of us. It's just a function of being aware that it exists, taking a step back and noticing. It's almost being mindful every moment of take a look what's going on and now now that uh we're we're in a war right uh cl is is is engaged you know people are tuned in they want to know what's going on Israel that seems to be a tremendous wave of chuva and people recognizing the more than in regular times which is interesting also people are recognizing dashka you see people who are putting on putting on sit is soldiers who are who are recognizing the adashem and so on and so forth. It's it's definitely an opportune time wars and difficulties trials and tribulations uh when Israel seems to be to come closer not the other way around. It's it's somewhat counterintuitive because people would think sometimes when they go through difficult times it would push them away but on the contrary we're finding that people are drawn to their spirituality and drawn to their abundance level. So this is the Mishna the Bash and we are definitely without a doubt in the by all accounts of in the current generation in prior generations it's really like the leader there are difficulty there's immense pain I mean go back we've had covid we had the marone tragedy we've we've had a whole and And then we had this. So I'll I'll tell you another uh I guess Hashkah brought this in a way. In February 1960, this is also in the book. Revelon told his students the following. There was an earthquake in Morocco. 5,000 people died. And Rella Leon told his students that just because it happened hundreds of miles away from Israel, don't think it's not a message for us. That's the garbus peron. He said it's not that we're we're not at fault. Don't misunderstand the but it means we're supposed to take it's a message for us. Why? We have to do cha. That was the message. I'm in shul and this is right before Russ. And then I tell the I said, "You know that the largest earthquake since February 1960 just happened in Morocco. 3,500 people died. 5,000 people were injured." And I said to the week before that's if were around now. What do you think he would tell us? Let's fast forward. We have to do chuva. The Rambam says that if we don't do chuva, be called an azour. It's cruel. The obvious question is you're not an azour. I might be mindless. I might not be focused. Why call me an ala? And the obvious explanation is which some of them are far from say there's an obvious message. Knock knock knock. Who's there? Would you please get up and go answer the door? If you would answer the door, you would see what you need to do. And the Rambam says, "And if we don't do Chuva, there'll be more turus." That's the Lion of the Rambam. So here I am right before Osana and I'm telling you I love what Rella Lopeon said in February 1960 and guess what we just had an earthquake a couple of days ago the largest earthquake in the same place if Rabella Lopeon would be here now what would he say mindful of the Rambam that if you don't do Chuva you're an Aza more terrorists will come and then a month later we have this war in Israel so here I am after the war and I repeated what I had said that time. I said, "I don't know what's going on. I'm just telling you what Revelan said. I'm telling you what the Rambam said and I'm just reporting the news." But you see, if if we start to connect the dots and we recognize the Ashka, everything happens for a reason. That's what Ashko brought. This means no such thing as coincident. Truman becoming president, how he got into politics. Eddie Jacobson, his friend. Okay, I all the stories this guy being Mava Cedric gets up decides to be Mava Cedra just then 10 minutes later that 10year-old uh mirror falls it's not it happens to have happened to have happened everything happens for a reason and everything has a spiritual aus lesson whatever it is even if things do not turn out well okay Rabula was stuck in Sweden for eight years right after the war and this is also in the book and there was no minion rabba said this is the same thing who was learning with his father the Jacob who goes to Mitraim can he say well this is terrible where's no dash brought this he goes to mitim we all know the story right he's in jail come down don't you see even the difficult parts in a person's life if we're mindful that this is the only does. Now we have to process it. There's no doubt we have to process it because we're human. We're boss of Adam. But our conclusion really if we're focused and if we're well educated and inspired by the whole concept and the stories, we'll begin to see that everything happened. So, yeah, go ahead. No. So, I I I So, here's what I want people to do. That's what I was going to ask you. I know you I know you want people to take you you're you're on a mission. Yes. You're a man on a mission. You didn't just write this book. You told me before we started this interview that you really want this book to be um I don't know if the right word is a roadmap. You almost want it to be a guide to people to do something, to take action, to apply it. How how do you want people to implement? By the way, that that always seems to be the uh the genesis of of all the books of all the books that you've read the but this happens to everyone. This happens to everyone. It happens to me. It happens to you. It happens to me and my family. I'm aware of many of the incidences. It happens to me in the place that I go, Jackson, of some of the people there because they related the story, except we're unaware of all these things. We're unaware of the things that happened to other people and we're unaware of the things that may happen to ourselves. Can you imagine the gold mine? I I have one of the days in the book is called uh turn dirt into gold. Could you imagine the mundane? When I say dirt, it's like it's nothing. You know, you take the, you know, there's a little dandel on on my shoulder. You go like that. Take the mundane like what's embedded in this moment. There's nothing there. Be aware that as Sashkah brought this to turn that into gold and we can all become closer to the Aisha. Now, I want people to keep a diary. It's not my suggestion. In 1984, Ramosa Ramosa Feinstein Kamineski suggested I found this in one of the wonderful art school books. Okay, I think it was uh Ra Sutton of the Blevi. I found it in a footnote. I was waiting for Ma to start one day. There was a sa I picked it up. I start reading and I said husk the aunts and don't you see that's an example husk and do the minion they had nine guys usually mean I sat down and what am I going to do so I picked up a safe the safer happens happens happens to have been there with that safer wait I happen I had like a minute because the tenth guy comes in I I happen to have opened it up and I'm looking I'm reading the story I'm going wow oh I didn't know that not only that I find Doctor of Katsk Levenstein used to suggest to his daughters to keep a personal journal and he would incentivize them practice. Can you imagine if everybody started to keep their own journals which meant they became more aware of it. They would write it down. They would write down and their kids would keep the stories of their own Ashkahus. And could you imagine and I'm going to suggest it in the book that people email to me their stories right now. The addresses vanitila.org v a n like in no i t like in Thomas e f i l l ah.org O RG well if the story is a really good one which means and it's relatable we'll put it in a book you'll have your story in an Oscar book we're working on trying to incentivize with a raffle for wonderful gift certificate I don't know yet we're in the process of doing that can you imagine and you would have this of helping thousands upon thousands Thousands of people see dash which is one main aspect of a by the way you know every day we mention because that's the aspect of and that's more important for us to remember and to relate to and to talk about than the fact that the aish created the world not mind as I don't remember exactly this is also in the book so if we can help claw Israel to focus. We can bring everyone. That's what the says the gula comes. We rely on the aster. Now if we recognize that he does everything, then of course we will dive in and rely on him. That seems to be a main part of the recipe to bring kahula. So this is like a wonderful opportunity to get everyone to focus, get everyone to internalize, get people to connect and to bring gula. Could you imagine? They'll say, "Ah, which generation was the one that brought the goula?" Yes, that was the one that brought the goula had all these amuna and ben books and everybody started to read it. Not just Arkll, but everybody to their credit. As I mentioned before the Salom Kim people they started the 1% they started to connect and they enhanced that connection because they started to focus and they realized it's a it's here for the taking. Mhm. I think there's no more opportune time honestly for this book and this topic than now and that's and that's also but you're you're the to bring this message to the public at this time. uh people who are going to read the book that they they won't only be inspired by the stories, they will be inspired by the messages which they'll be able to take with them because it's not just about stories that happen to work out nicely. It's about totally I think right it's really about reshaping the way we look at everything. But I do want to mention I've got a couple of chapters on dash when things do not work out to explain it. Right. I have um uh a chapter about people that go through difficulties. And it's it's all about just focusing on what's going on whether we recognize and it works out in our best interest at the time or even if it doesn't, right? They're all opportunities literally tailorade. I have one chapter about you mentioned how I'm sort of I'm not doing one part of the puzzle. No, that's the emis are doing their part and everyone is going to be doing their part. There's one long chapter in the book about and you're tough kid. Everyone has a purpose. And the way I explain it, some people say, well, you know, who am I? Can you imagine somebody gave you this big beautiful puzzle and they said hang it up in your living room. Now the puzzle has a lot of details. There's the building and the colors and the foliage of the trees, the beautiful kite and everything the plane and then the top part of the picture has got blue sky. If let's say one small piece of the blue sky, the nondescript what what is that part of the picture doing? It's a nondescript little blue sky. If that piece was missing, would you hang up that puzzle? Big beautiful puzzle. I wouldn't. People come in and go, that's an incomplete picture. Everyone has a tough everybody helps to bring to the world brings a dunos that says why one person has this mission and that that's not for us. He said it's also in the book. The maramokum is there. That's not for us. But what's clearly for us, I have my mission, you have your mission, everybody else has their mission. And we might think that my mission is not as great as yours. But guess what? The a don't make mistakes. And if he created each individual because he holds that person is worth it to be created. On that note, Rabbi Kleinman, thank you for this magnificent book. Thank you for this message, a reminder of Dashkah bratas in our lives. Um we appreciate the work that you put into this and we appreciate your your general inspiration that you provide to cla. Any final note before we wrap? very kind and I appreciate the fact that I have partners who take the next step always with literally with excellence and with perfection as much as a human being can do and who helps claim it's a team effort the credit goes to the truly rabbi and the rest of the art and it goes to the readers who then internalize and they'll hopefully send back their By the way, when they send back their stories, we'll take out any personal information that they all want. Don't worry about it. But we can really help to bring the gula. I really I really feel that. A main Rabbi Kleman, thank you again for coming in. I appreciate your time. Thank you. [Music]