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Ari Goldwag - Vayeshev - Free Will Spectrum
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What is the difference between Yosef and Yehuda's approach to free will and our level of involvement in doing God's will? Why did the brothers say that there was a difference between the dreams of Jacob and Joseph? What character attributes did they work on to receive prophetic dreams? Where does one cross the line and find oneself in God's exacting justice? What was the deeper message of the dreams of Pharaoh's baker and his winemaker? Find out in this week's parsha podcast.
Featuring:Ari Goldwag
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this week's participation of a chef it's
really interesting this week we talked
about we begin the story of Joseph at
Sadiq Joseph and his brothers and this
is a topic you know safe the story is
one of the most fascinating stories to
me in the entire Torah and it's a topic
which I've actually written about had a
blog which I was writing about yo se
finish really no safe for many years and
I stopped out about five years ago but
the idea is here are so fundamental very
much connected to the entire concept of
what what we as Jews what we understand
what we believe as far as mushiya the
Messiah the Mushaf Bend of admire from
David he comes from yahuda from Judah
and there's a connection between him
between the story of you who Daniel who
to the the whole story with you who Dan
Tamar which is the beginnings the seeds
of the story Mushaf Bend of it comes
from parrots who comes from those twins
and there's a deep connection between an
Amishman Yosef the Messiah comes from
Joseph not everyone knows about the idea
of Mashiach Ben Yossef the Messiah comes
from Joseph but these two ideas are very
much connected and they're the rooted
then the seeds for these ideas are in
our partial so it's an idea that I've
spoken about at length and it was
interesting as I was doing some research
looking around I made Russian so Kim a
fortune of different commentaries of
this week's parsha
you know I try always to find something
new to find something interesting
something interests in me and I hope
that it will interest my listeners as
well and I was finding it very
challenging
these are precious that I've gone
through and I've seen so much about and
to find something new something that
interests me is challenging and what I
did find what I want to share with you
and I'm gonna read it inside and I'm
gonna translate it it's a very beautiful
piece from the edge Bitzer the mashallah
and it's it's the schita you know in the
past I've gone into different form
different places different commentaries
I've gotten into measures of late I've
been talking a lot about the magic and
sometimes I quote from from MAS and
Breslin from Luca de Lucas and there was
a goof it was time where I was talking a
lot reading
reading from the issue it sir and I just
had to find something fresh so this is
where I went this is where I found
before we start just important to
understand that the issue bit sir
his pieces can be opaque difficult to
understand and with a himself will try
to understand and explore the depths of
what he's saying begins Vasia of Yaakov
Jacob dwelled in the lands of his
father's dwelling is Esha Kozlov and
this is what it says in the verse this
is a reference to what it says in the
verse in Jeremiah chapter 30 verse 10
the Shah of Yakov a shock 8 Hashanah and
vemma hurried that Jacob will sit he
will dwell he'll have quiet and he won't
be afraid
oh yeah hurricane and it will be after
this the the Jupiter refers to a
different posture which is going to
which is speaking about the fact that
Jacob which is reference to the Jewish
people when they have calmness and
quieted in their land so afterwards the
result will be even a hurricane Bertha
sruthi who like the verse says that God
will pour out his Spirit upon all of
mankind
Zook Nathan columnist Yahoo Lyman your
elders will have dreams but horican has
Yanis you and your young men will also
see visions so the issue sir is using
this posture which speaks about the
elders who have dreams and the young
ones the the young men who have visions
as a reference to Jacob and Joseph
Yaakov and Yosef the two of them Yaakov
the Torah tells us in previous parts we
spoke about the fact that he had a dream
Jacob had the dream of the latter as he
was going out to hustlers out of Israel
he had the dream of the the angels and
you know all the ideas that that
represented and Joseph also he's the
young man he's not the other he's the
young man and he also has a vision and
his vision also is one which is a
prophetic vision now he continues to
explain how you call him master minasan
Balaam
all of the things that we see in the
world all the actions that are done in
the world near in um I suppose ever done
if we look at them in a superficial way
so the things that I do or the things
that you do look to be they seem to be
things that are done by human beings by
flesh-and-blood
ACME I hear of a merkava and now if we
were to look at the thoughts
and the the inspiration behind it Niram
Seamus a chemise bark it would seem that
the thoughts and inspiration come from
God
booberella parshas says deja produced an
amazing thing profound idea to explain
what's going on here and really bring it
home for us we need to understand this
so much in these parishes in in the
context of what we're speaking with the
stories that the Torah is telling us the
events that it's recounting malama
discern wash Emmys were God teaches us I
share her my Samia jammies boa now when
it comes to the actions the things that
are being done those things the actions
the events that occur belong to God
those God is there in them profoundly
Masha voice hey Messiah Adam now when it
comes to the thinking the thoughts that
are there those thoughts are actually
what remain in the domain of the human
being I mean if we look at the events on
the world stage if we were to you know
expand this idea but look at the events
on the world stage it seems like you
know Putin is doing something Obama is
doing something Isis is doing something
Israel you know all of the things that
we look at we see it it looks like there
are individuals who are taking action
but in fact the actions themselves
belong to God
Hashem big a doll on a broader scale is
in charge God is in charge of all of the
actions that we see the thoughts that go
on inside of a person's mind perhaps
impress us of what he means as those
actions are being taken those belonged
to the person who is taking the action
the thoughts that are involved the
initial desires of what the person hopes
to accomplish that might be in the
domain of the human being but the
results do not belong to the human being
Hamas tsim-sha-tsui Adam the virus shows
and all the things that a person will do
that seem to be within his domain within
his permission so to speak so as we said
they don't really belong to him I was in
mr.kia Colby - um I'm in regards to this
or say just tell us that everything is
in the hands of heaven my son Mitzvah
heifer Haim be out of Shem Apsara even
the myths themselves and we see this in
this story you know we have we have the
brothers as our sages tell us they were
trying to kill Yosef and they had adjust
the vacay
from a holic standpoint they felt that
he was high of misa that he was liable
for death but the mitzvahs the the and
and the opposite when a person doesn't a
very heaven forbid so these things are
really in the hands of a shamrock Lapham
utilized samba Adam only on occasion
only on occasion this is a sheath of the
dish pizza which is an unbelievable
profound concept but the the level of
our freewill and how much involvement
that we have according to the age Bitzer
is very limited and it's important to
hear this and understand there's a
spectrum within Jewish thought as to
what is the idea of free will how much
we will do we really have have what
level to what death is Hashem
controlling all of reality where is our
freewill hat as our thoughts and actions
play into that so the HP tier is all the
way on the extreme of the spectrum
saying that our freewill is there of
course because that's why we're in this
world to choose but there's a limitation
on that and what's amazing is that he's
going to go into an enroll we'll have
time to read the entire piece but he's
going to go into in depth that air
there's actually an argument a
disagreement between yahuda and Yosef
between the shipment of it I'm a Shia
Ben Yossef which he doesn't speak about
explicitly but that's also true there's
a disagreement as to how much
responsibility we have and how much
belongs to God and in fact the way that
a sham manifests in the lives of each of
them is differently in the life of
Yehuda as well soon see in the life of
Judah so he had less bashira he had less
free will but he also is willing to give
up his free will in a certain sense he
was willing to completely make himself
subservient to God and so we'll see that
his free will in a certain sense was
less Yosef was held more accountable
because he took upon himself instead of
giving himself up completely even his
free will so instead he chose to have
free will which is of course connected
to other my regional in the faith in the
sin of Adam and and he is choosing to
enter into a place of free will which is
a whole other discussion I'm not going
to get into but for our discussion we
see that there are two different levels
of which to speak so now commotion was
seen while my C Hooda the
continues and says that we find in
regards to the actions of Judah hey
Hashem nice Bora South come here many
God says in regards to the action that
you who took which was to be with Tamar
unbeknownst to him
so me many Hashem says this was from me
this a very or the seeming sin that
Judah did was something that I
orchestrated God says as our sages
explain the verse aah-ha-ha la maestra
Yosef italic number shame me here who
are di ma interestingly when it comes to
the dreams of Joseph so there's a
different explanation for it
there's an explanation that it's because
of the thoughts that he had during the
day meaning was it because of something
that God had given to him was it because
of something that he had chosen he
thought about being emotional he's
thought about leading the Jewish people
leading his brothers is that why he had
those dreams or was it because Hashem
planted it in him so when it came to
Joseph as opposed to Yuda there was a
different thing that was going on there
was more of a bethere a more of a choice
that Joseph was making as opposed to
Yehuda whose actions themselves even the
actions themselves were something which
was a result of a Shems will directly
playing in his life now Yosef also even
though yes he's choosing things and yes
he's thinking about things and that's
affecting the dreams but still it's
important to understand that Shem is
within that as well
a shaman is always within everything a
sham is always guiding and touching
everything but to what level is it
masked to what level does ashen give us
Valera
so that we feel like we are part of
we've earned the good that he's giving
us so in yo safe there's more of a level
of it seems like he's doing it
uni Hooda there's less of a level and
it's clear that Hashem is doing it more
kiba m/s the Jupiter continues and says
that the truth is Cana she voice ah hush
bottom this was the response of his
brother's theme catcher CLA Mahalo I'm
when he told them his dream Jia Covino
lava column because Jacob kasha Colin
Lee haha lame by the hosel 11 when he
had his dream and he was on the way to
Levin's house his ski line Bible ominous
American in Sabich the harsh waton he
was able to look in
dream and to learn and understand the
depth of what the references were what
the implications were for all of his
children for all his sons hey mom do I
say and they also studied that dream
that revelation in the Scottish Lambo
becau Panthera Tara had awesome and they
were able to learn new things about
God's will from that dream as they
studied it , Uncas to retire him sabaha
la maza because there's so much depth
and wisdom and ideas of Torah which are
found in the dream of Jacob because sure
I'll run ahem yes about Sonic now when
Joseph said to them Keegan like
homopolymers ka Leah Karim he also had
dreams he was saying that the dreams
also were spiritual and had a spiritual
message and they had did retire they
were there was a message for them has
she Willa what was their response to him
imma let him like Elena
do you think that you're going to rule
over us he did me lovino the brother
said how could it be that you think that
you are similar to our father that he
had dreams which were spiritually
powerful you think that your dreams are
also spiritually powerful Holly Aveeno
who call a mbu of a dog Buscemi's para
our Father Jacob he's always involved in
in awe he's attached - am la cámara la
chemise for holiness and that's why
Hashem shows him these dreams
half-machine even when he's sleeping he
Gamez who drove up Buscemi's Berg
because even in the dark even when he's
sleeping even when he's not fully in
control of his mind even then he's
connected to Shem Hashem shows him
things not only that I shall reveal some
amazing things in his dreams of a lot
top but the brothers said to Joseph -
Joseph but you ain't comin my dragon's
eyes Gernot on the level of our father a
Hulk a moussaka a man here who are the
imma the dreams that you have are just a
result of what you're thinking about
during the day
chata writes a big duel Oh businesses
they wanted to say to him that you you
Joseph you just want to be greater than
us you want to be raised above us look
on the halima scale that's why you're
having these dreams
gala doula me me this year of
innova
because the greatness which you're
speaking of the grain is that you are
going to be a leader so to speak which
is what your
James seemed to imply that type of dream
doesn't come out when a person is
focused on aw and his has humility so
they were saying that the oh and
humility of Jacob is what gave him a
dream that was a spiritual dream and had
spiritual content and that things could
be learned from but they were saying to
Joseph that he wasn't on that level and
his yireh
his his awe and his humility was lacking
and therefore the dreams couldn't have
that depth of spirituality
Yakub Aveeno here tell me I have a dust
was it Jacob was somebody who was
constantly working on this idea Yura the
idea of aw hiya sashimi smart
maashjay'eh Alec oh that's the concept
that Hashem his divine providence is to
be seen and then Hashem looks down on
everything is involved directly in all
that occurs on earth could sit like the
verse says me Mahesh kiya from the place
of God's place he looks down below
y'know and the verse also says that he
doesn't slumber asleep Vanover what's
the aspect of humility I knew Shana miss
Gao embryo that Yakko Aveeno his me
there was his attribute was that he
didn't see himself as greater than
anyone Kim my solemn and I'm a Himalayan
like the verse says in reference to the
concept of humility that what is man
really greater than even an animal
lush and iron which says he my stardom
in a Bahama I'm its insignificant the
where I mean means in its null it's
nothing the the greatness or the
advantage of a person over an animal
what is that language of nothingness hi
no off Sheba MSMEs out of shame is Mara
yes he'll look that even though it's
true as far as the Shem is concerned
there's a difference between man and
beast I think how to automate lovara but
when it comes to the person the way that
a person needs to think about it is that
there are no differences there's really
no differences as far as I'm concerned
and so the anomaly humility that Jacob
had was that he didn't see himself as
greater than anyone else he was able to
to have that idea within him and the
brothers felt that Joseph did not have
that and therefore because he didn't
have these two meadows in their eyes you
know these two attributes so his dreams
didn't have that spiritual depth and I'm
skipping a piece of it and I'm going
straight to the taina the complaint of
bottom of the brothers to Joseph is a
Hyatt is a schwa to my use of exotic
this was their complaint to Joseph kick
am Who I am is nyog as a dominance a
gyro that yes he was somebody who was
involved with having this he was trying
to inculcate in himself the attribute of
awe miles nmmm a Trish and this is what
it says in the message this is a
reference this is what the measures is
referencing shall I use if economy law
it says that the the luck if you would
look at Joseph he looks similar to Jacob
behind Shahan may God smile it a meters
hallelu with what does it really mean
the depth of what it means that he
looked like him it means that he tried
to take on his attributes just like
Jacob year of innova Kadesh a Alif betta
he tried to have all he tried to have
humility so that he would indeed be able
to trust God and the way that the verse
refers to the fact that Jacob trusts God
so he also tried to develop that inside
of himself
listen Emeril of cabins hakuna Malloy
that's why it says that he was somebody
who was a Benza kunam this child is
special child to Jacob
Heine commercial Yaakov eNOS now I gots
my b---minus Yutaka vino just like Jacob
took on the attribute of Isaac I new
hero which was this aspect of aw gum who
is now got some about Mira has ice so he
also tried to take on this attribute
uber Nova to Maya via Jacob imitated
Isaac so to speak Joseph imitated Jacob
so to speak
vosdek the Kumarasamy spora and as a
result of this that's why I Shem was so
exacting with Joseph Kiev Shami that's a
little toy of him even though these are
good attributes to inculcate into
oneself
comic America Ottoman Turkish em damn
cane a person also needs to trust Hashem
and another level
he had NASA meets at autumn an opinion
on the odd that even the things that I
accomplished even though me toes the the
attributes that I in Coke into myself
are not something that lasts forever Jia
Jie save publish mera Samoyed even
though Joseph was indeed able to
accomplish a lot through his carefulness
in his areas our me many got to call my
his role the result of which was that
all of the kings of Israel would come
out
honey crocodile Amal the great kings of
Israel would come from him
okay the use of a mesh like the measure
says nevertheless it's not something
that's permanent I know to be known are
they odd you want to have something that
you have forever in a shackle how come
Rocco hey like a hula by trying to earn
it the way that Joseph was trying to do
it
inculcating forcing himself to be
spiritual to be deep to be to be humble
to have all those are amazing me those
whose amazing attributes but the moment
I think that I am doing it says the edge
but Sir if I'm believing that I'm doing
and I'm establishing this for myself
that's a very deep mistake the only one
who lasts forever whose attributes
indeed are our deep and last forever our
yahuda Judah because Judah has that
recognition he has the depth to
understand South call me many that the
things that are happening even the
righteousness that happens is from God
even the good things that we
accomplished ultimately it's because
Hashem has allowed us to accomplish them
whereas our Bahia where's our free
choice perhaps it's in the thinking of
it in the desire the rut zone that's the
issue but sri suta his idea is that
really comes down to what do I want if I
really want goodness that's the but here
that's what I have a choice around
that's where my freewill revolves is the
wanting the desire for goodness the
result can I accomplish can I actually
do the mitzvot can I can I be successful
in fulfilling God's will the answer is
it depends if God wants me to or not the
results always belong to a Shem and
depending on which schita which way a
person goes the the gisha the approach
of a person if a person goes with you're
safe so he has to accomplish it himself
but that doesn't last forever because
Hashem wants us to know that ultimately
all that we have even the mitzvahs even
the accomplishments even the good deeds
they ultimately belong to God there are
an a manifestation of God in the world
now I just want to share one last idea
I'm not gonna read it inside but he
talks about the dreams that Joseph
interpreted one was a sorrow femme which
was the baker and he had done something
wrong he had had a there was a stone in
the bread of Pharaoh and as a result of
that he was put he was incarcerated and
he ended up being killed because he was
eros
sponsible he was he should have been
more responsible thus I am asking the
wine Bearer
he brought this cup of wine to the king
to Pharaoh and there was a fly now the
fly is something which has its own mind
so to speak it's something that he
couldn't possibly possibly be careful
about it could have just flown in at the
very last second it was completely not
his fault
but Pharaoh got upset at him but
ultimately Pharaoh took him out of jail
now these two people actually says the
issue Bitzer are a muscle or an analogy
for Yosef which he was to learn and
understand the the sorrow of him the the
one who's baking the bread so he's
trying to be perfect but he makes a
mistake what's the result of that
approach of Joseph's approach which
corresponds to the sorrow open to the
Brit to Baker the result is that back
that accomplishment is lost
just like the Baker ends up being killed
so the accomplishment when one tries to
do it all himself without letting God in
also to the results acknowledging that
God's in charge of the results as well
even within mitzvahs the results the
result is a loss but when it comes to
you who is approached you who does
approach is that no I recognize that
everything is God if something comes not
something negative occurs if a fly falls
into the into the cup of the King that's
also something which is out of my
control that negative thing even though
Avera can sometimes not be my fault
yes I've that doesn't mean that I don't
have that I don't have to take
responsibility for it but but ultimately
everything that happens comes down to
Shem have to be so careful when I say
this idea because it's important to
understand yes I have to be responsible
for myself but my responsibility is at
the level of ruts on to the level of
will according to the issue but sir
kurta he understands things and this the
Ritzer finishes off by saying is you
know when yo safe when Yosef was looking
at what was going on between the
difference between him and yahuda when
when he was looking at it so he said
it's not fair how come I am being held
to such a high level to such a high very
very fine why am I being held so finally
why not getting punished why am I going
through all these difficulties how can
you who does things which seems to be
weird seem to be wrong and yet he
doesn't get held to such a high standard
so so he was
able to understand this lesson from what
was taught to him through the sorrow
from the sour mash them through the
baker and the cupbearer the wine bearer
and that's ultimately what the verse
refers to as an interpreter that in
Isaiah it says in chapter 11 verse 13
that ultimately and finally Connie asks
you who to believe
yo Garissa frame these two different
approaches approach of the h Pitzer
which understands that everything
ultimately comes down to Shem as opposed
to the approach of others which is most
of the mainstream thought of Judaism
which is that no I have to be
responsible and so so like the one side
looks at the other and says how could
you be right I you're wrong and each
side says it's wrong ultimately there
will be a harmony a recognition of the
validity that that a frame will no
longer be upset so to speak a friend was
the son of Joseph well no longer be
upset Joseph won't be upset he'll
recognize the validity and the greatness
of that ultimate way or that ultimate
gift sha the ultimate approach to
reality which is that a Shem is really
in charge of everything and that's the
idea of the concept of Mushaf and of it
everything happens miraculously former
chef ben Yosef everything is within Teva
it's within the natural or you don't
openly see the supernatural something
that it lies beneath the surface it's
itching to get out so to speak but it
doesn't actually come out he seems to be
earning everything himself but the
deeper the the the reality as it's meant
to be when we return to other my reach
from Kodama hey - adam afford the sin so
to speak that deep reality is that
everything is from a Shem the good and
the bad all of that is from a Shem and
our job is to acknowledge that and to
receive the the gifts - Emma wants to
give us and let go of even needing to
earn it it's a deeper level of receiving
the goodness that Hashem wants to give
us Shem should bless us to have an
understanding a depth of what it means
to serve Hashem at these two different
levels
Shem should help us to always deepen our
relationship with him give ourselves up
more and more to him thank you so much
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