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Rabbi Perr - Reb Aharon Kotler's Yahrtzeit 5781
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Rabbi Perr, one of Reb Aharon Kotler's closest talmidim, reflects on the impact of his rebbe 58 years after his passing.
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I have to ask him
AA because I got engrossed in something
else a matter that's very
engrossing so I simply forgot to look at
the
time we started a new section of MRE s
but I would like to digress today an
exception and talk to you because today
is the Earth said of of rabar
cuddler and I had the privilege
of learning in
Lakewood and a special privilege of
being close with him of all the people
around perhaps one of the closest if not
the
closest part of it had to with the fact
that my father in SL and was very close
with them all the years
and when I came
to Lake with khah
time so
theiva greeted
me I had met theiva in other cases when
I was
younger whenua said to me the first
thing was I remember when your father
came to
sa my father was
maybe a year younger than him
something like
that I always like to tell this
story because it really
illustrates his
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I one of the Russ Shas that I was in
was there many many many years I was
there was there
rash so I'm one
rash I said to him there was a by the
sud so I said to I sat was to sit by his
table and I was to sit opposite
him face to face 3 feet away
and I said to him uh it says the minut
is not to sleep on
rash because we don't know the moment of
den and a person shouldn't be asleep at
the moment of
den you may have heard this from me so I
said I know the moment of then that's
the way I put it very challenging
manner I said I know the moment you
did so Shea said to
me when is the moment then since
supposedly since you know it I said the
moment then is very easy I
said is at
rash 18 hours when the sun is 18 hours
East
of that is the end of the
den and it's very easy to figure
out right longitude where you are in the
world exactly what time the den is at
that time
because that's the only
time that the
didn't the only time that the whole
world has r at the same
time because after that the sun has gone
further and the day is over as as as the
world Revol revolves I I'm explaining it
to you would I have to say it to him I
just said the only moment there's a in
on the whole world and the gor says
they're all judged with one
glance
simultaneously so that means the whole
world is judged in one moment so there
only one moment that the whole world has
BR so it's very easy to figure out when
R over according to those opinions that
is 18 hours which is majority of
opinions 18 hours
East so sh SM
and when I tell the story I always
say
that this Hano that he had from the
question it's a question that gave him a
pleasure and the smile that he had when
he heard it gives me
pleasure she said you're making a
mistake you don't understand what it
means all judged that one
moment then he said
aot theot he said
was that when a person is judged this is
not his original says this in other
places if a person is judged let's say
he has to have an oish so it's not just
an oish for him but the family suffers
with the
also if the family didn't deserve the
let's
say person's
injured so the parents suffer from the
injury sometimes the siblings suffer
from the
injury they have a lot of Desire from it
that one of the members of the family is
hurt that this particular child is
hurt so in order for the child to be
hurt you had to do an a of some kind in
order for the parents to be hurt they
also have to do some kind in a ver that
deserves that hurt because the doesn't
hurt somebody unless there's a reason
doesn't hurt a person emotionally unless
there's a reason if the Mommy's going to
feel bad about it and well she will so
she deserves to feel
bad so the
person is judged and at the same time
he's judged he's supposed to get a pain
so everybody around him is judged
and they to get a
pain and the people around them are
judged let's say an uncle or an
aunt that they get a certain amount of
minor pain because it's their sister's
child or their sister suffering because
of the child so they also are suffering
so they also have to deserve the pain
and if any one of them doesn't deserve
the pain the pain won't happen to the
child you all have to deserve the pain
that's s on
M but is
perfect she says so everybody in larger
circles is affected by what happens to
each individual until the whole world is
really
encompassed and beside that he said the
Judgment
goes if he deserves to get a pain but
there's a question why does he deserve
it his father or his mother trained him
a certain way
so maybe it's not fully his pain his
his it's not fully his
punishment and his grandparents trained
the Father the great grandparents Grand
trained the grandparents and they serve
as an
influence and there's
another if he has a pain what kind of
effect will it have on him and what kind
of effect will it have on his children
that yet to be
born what kind of effect will they have
on the
grandchildren s effects the question but
nevertheless an
effect in effects that are so subtle it
can't be defined perhaps can't be seen
but they have an
effect SOA says you see that the din on
each individual encompasses the whole
world and the whole
bries
ious so that's what means that when a
person is judged it doesn't mean
everybody's judged at the same moment
but the Gabi this individual who's
getting judged the whole world is
judged and why I tell you this
story I told you if you to
understand that Riva understood the
world the whole mass of the
world you understood the implication
ations of something in its Universal
sense he understood that in his time 65
bam later on I get became about 104 if I
remember 65 b or 100 B in the United
States of
America where they were at that time
five million Jews there still are five
million Jews because rest already
stopped being
Jewish you
100 bar and he had at that time when I
came to Lake was 65 70
bar
small he understood the impact that 100
that 65 bam going to have on on their
families and the world and the whole
Jewish
people and in fact in one of the times
he spoke to us
so in fact he
said that during the sa it
says that
g went to fight the
battle against the
goam and in order to fight the battle he
had to have soldiers who had not
knelt had not KNE maybe or knelt I'm not
sure the right word knels probably
toar so he took his troops down to drink
water and some of the soldiers went down
on their knees because they were used to
going down on their knees drink the
water there were others who went did not
go down on their
knees
because they never went to AAR on their
knees and they just didn't want to go
down on the knees
so they got a hold of the water they lay
out on the ground flat and they and they
took the water that way without going on
their knees they didn't let their knees
go down on the
floor there were 300 of them out of if I
remember correctly
10,000 and those 300 became the
soldiers so 300 people 300 young men
army men who had not bowed to the idol
bow and of the whole Jewish people
people and rash said and from these 300
they rebuilt
CL few Generations later buil
thees so 300 people can rebuild
Clos and take a look at
what not only what Lakewood has become
what lakan has
built throughout the United
States and
Israel you
know largest competing is with
lir wonderful
place a wonderful place
I have a brother-in-law who's a couple
years younger than
me married to two sisters his name is
a his father was
famous
verit remembers very
clearly came time Ina I think 2 o'clock
or something like that
25 he had to go out in the street in
and asked us to come in to make a Minion
for
men there was no minion
issue you hear
that it was nobody
there
brilliant said a
year you know how many B were in
it
two were two B in this year
two
BR look at the mirror
now and where do those boys come
from they come from America or they come
from England from other places too of
course now that you have
a volume coming from America so of
course you're going to have others why
they come from
America because Ran's impact on
was the impact of a handful of tum that
he had that they had on
America through
him and that's why
does and because Mar is anothera that
didn't
exist or
brisk was the Yesa had two or three Tom
them so we B Sines
through the tah throughout the world and
the yish throughout the
world it's so
strong came from
him
World from
him when I was young were very few in
the world were they come from C
background but they didn't turn out to
be and they went toas
turned out to
be just B
regular he became rers and the children
became
rers and they became rers because they
were Bar's impact on them went back to
the authenticity of your
obar that's all his credit all of it and
he never looked for
credit but he had a view of what he's
doing as he he understood the gigantic
impact a small thing
has one of the important things he said
was that buer make a big
mistake I think I should share this with
you B make a mistake he thinks like this
well I made have see on this
m i Lear so many BL this year
you year we learned 30 BL I learned very
well next
year 30
BL
another year later I'll learn another 30
Block he sees every year year as just a
repetition of the present
year and that's not
true because what happens with tah
is tah just
multiplies it
explodes it's not that you learn 30 BL
this year and 30 BL next year 30 next
year's 30 BL is a different kind of 30
BL than this year your knowledge your
head your information caring around is a
different thing it's like having 300
blot next to you will you actually cover
300 or not and a year later it's not 300
blot became
3,000 and a year later becomes 30,000 or
300,000 and that the B doesn't
understand and having heard that from
him they look at Lakewood which they
don't understand what they're looking at
when they're in Lakewood they weren't
there in the beginning like I
was I look at Lakewood and I say look he
started with who knows I think he
started origin with 13 B I think so
maybe
14 time I came by the time my came was
65 by the time I came maybe was 70 I
don't know never counted them at that
time maybe 70 maybe 80 a few years after
I came I know they count somebody
counted was 104
down to the
beds look a langu can you believe
it have you been
there
gigantic and that's all from one
man just like he said you can't measure
the impact just by looking and thinking
it goes further it just explodes
and in individual
life your knowledge of to and your siss
everything that you have in yourself
explodes and you don't realize
it a person is like a
seed from a seed there was a whole tree
have you ever seen an apple seed what
piece do about this
big all Tree Grows with apples hanging
each one of them has dozen
seeds one little seeda
grows you read the
popcorn you ever see the
kernel little kernel like
this exploded Expos it to fire just
exploded into different shape
popcorn
pop that's what happens to a
person and the fire that you expose the
popcorn to is of course the
fire looks like a
fire you know
fiery law was given from the bur's right
hand
fire exposed things to fire they melt
they change can be shaped they can be
formed
explode that's the story of
RAR other the time there
were wife's grandfather
special
Jew great
man he didn't do
it and I think what was missing was
this by all of them I don't think that
they had that
suet that this can explode to something
gigantic
have the world
view gigantic change that will take
place I think that's the most important
thing to have to realize that when you
are doing something it's not just you're
doing it now having profound
impact your children will be different
your grandchildren will be
different sometimes an older
person children say you know
he has 140
descendants it's true it's happened by a
lot of people my bbby has so much and so
much so old
shabas and they're having each one is
having is married with a family of six
kids and next generation is is larger
still that's what's happening
that is small because the physical world
doesn't multiply to such a great extent
as R
worlda they told the
story and I never saw this
happen I to
drive a number of
times remember how many but quite a
number of times
to New
York it was a
cycle those who were
drivers it was like a a gab Yesa who
said this time you
going I was on them I didn't put myself
on there foolishly I didn't put myself
on there but they put me
on I tried to get off because I didn't
want to waste the time waste the time
you understand driving TOA I want to
stay with my
gamor so I said to
the
gabbi came to tell me it was my turn to
drive I told the gabbi I just got my
license you know not a good driver he
not safe he said I know you he said
you're just got your license but you're
a safe driver anyway
the St was told but I never saw
it in those days it was no easy
P but there were my time they installed
automatic
Lanes where as you pass you through
change into
the a kind of a a half circle
buckets and count went through a machine
and counted it
before my before that was by
each by each lane of the exit there was
a
person then they put these automatic
machines of automatic machines they put
in there always was
one lane where there was a
person was you had didn't have the
correct change and had to get change
to one Lan had a
person so they told in yes the was being
driven he said to somebody I'm sure the
story was true because so typical of him
the story is typical of a person that
you know is
true that's the kind of thing you can if
you knew him that's the way he would
be so he said when they were approaching
the tall booths
he said to his driver go by the
man made it hold there then driver said
he's got to change whatever was 50 cents
two quarters just throw it in said now
go by the
man and the man you should know was a
slower of getting
through was there other people needed
change a guy would come with a dollar
bill need a change you know took time
car after the car go by the
man so you know why you should go by the
man is it because the man sees that a
machine is doing his
job and he's
denigrated it's a m for him that a
machine can do the job of a human being
he's what what is he he's just it's just
something just a subtitute for a
machine has to know these we need to
have
him who this man who was a relative
about was Aid was just another human
being
boy she would treated everybody with
such
respect with me I don't remember it even
happening once
and I'll tell you I know why it didn't
happen because I knew the
rash it happened to be that Riva at that
time was driving with somebody and told
him to do it but usually when you were
driving
Shiva he was thinking and
learning he was so into
learning he didn't know where he was
holding he didn't see
it you could see in his own eyes when he
was thinking and
learning like his eyes would go to the
side and then the back to the middle as
he thought about
things and whenever he had was was free
he was thinking of learning I used to
watch him sometimes when he was at
a a meeting with other people sitting
with
them and they
drous this one would speak this one
would speak
R also spoke of
course the other speeches there you know
there weren't much to listen to except
they were
long and you look ata's face you saw his
eyes you knew he was thinking and
learning wasn't wasting his
time he couldn't hold the safer in his
hand he would had such a mind he didn't
need a safer to think and learning
but we knew he used to think and
learning
and would be sitting by lunch and they'd
be could see they were quiet they were
thinking and learning sometimes they
told you sh I'm thinking and
learning he carried the T with him a
whole times C safer or not to usually C
safer my time car M Brewer
usual I went some with I was once
traveled with him had a mar with himem I
remember
surprised on
and that is of key
importance that's what we saw and that's
of key
importance if you push yourself fast a
certain level
so learning was very
easy you have to push past
it the Lear becomes very easy happens by
itself
she had not been feeling
well and we heard about
it by the daughter base managed to his
mail and on the nail was a
small piece of paper from a small
notebook like Place 6 in by 4 in
something like that
a small loose leaf notebook
always and I had the mar clus the next
year hanging there was sh in
shabas or shabas night during the winter
8:00 sh Monday
morning and the Mar m clus he was going
to talk about were on that paper
and she had been
posted and the paper there was a little
nail sticking out next to the door on
the
doorpost M side toward the inside of the
Bas
Mage and whoever had the marus who had
taken had been dictated
him would take that sheet of paper and
wrote it down
on and he pushed it over the top a nail
and let it hang from the
nail and when Yeshua started she said
somebody would take it
down the list on the bottom of the page
would say the she would be at this time
be
Bas and the
shear just hung there
marus she did this say a Shear which is
very
shocking and hung there and hung there
and hung
there day after
day and then we heard he was in the
hospital
and there was some who
were were getting phone
calls brother's
condition heard had had a
surgery a big
surgery and
somebody picked up the
phone and his remark about the surgery
was you hope it will be
good was after the
surgery when yov will be
good very upset when I heard that yov
would be good it sounds like despite the
surgery there's something else to worry
about
you on the
surgery very
upsetting it's very
upset and
then he started saying to him around the
clock
pretty
much I remember we said to
him till late at night I don't remember
maybe 12:00 at night or
something and I was newly married I was
married a
year and we were told you know okay go
home and I went home
home got to bed about 2: or 3: in the
morning my phone
rang I got to call
and come back to
Yeshiva it's a very bad
Massa and I got up with an hour or two
of
sleep and I walked back through the
night to the Yesa
maybe a block or two
away it was 2 o'clock in the
morning a block or two
away I heard the
cry qu the
tilling in the
nights in the quiet night quiet
streets would hear a block
away came to Bas MS
was crying as hard
out and up on the
Bea I think it was three steps only the
be dur CR was
open a whole bunch of B I don't remember
number
standing with their heads inside their
AR
crish together bells are standing by SM
anding and crying and saying till P by P
these guys were standing up with the
heads on the AR crish trying their
hearts
out it wasn't enough to try in front of
the AR
CR open the AR cred she stuck their
heads in around your
brother save our
re he said to him maybe for two hours
and the phone call Rang in the hall
again
and things took a turn for the
better and we
took went home again took a
nap came back from
shakas
openes I don't remember what they open
door in CR I do not remember if they
open door in crish before c up to take
out the was Thursday
morning where they finished or the the
second time I don't remember that I just
remember they were Ines and he started
say till
him I remember AB
seagull was leading the
by was responding after him B by
B and I remember the sh bline came
in had rung in the
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hole came in the door the
basement he walked down the aisle that
was next to the door near the
door and it was a Roy B on one side on
the other side as he walked turned his
head to the right to the B to
left he
said
B to each
grow
and the
well rose up
as he scoll heard
it but the moment or was in my mind
impressed that I R
seagull was standing by the the
friends and he didn't know what was
going
on because the guys who were saying to
were saying so loud such a
cry that he didn't know the difference
between those who
crying that he should be
saved and those it were crying because
he was
gone and the word spread around the
Bish and gradually all those of the S
tomb stopped and start to
cry and single was saying P by
P and somebody went over to him and
tapped him on the
shoulder and he stopped
and the was crying as heart
out they sat down on the
floor on the dirty floor in
fact everybody took off his
shoes they were mourning and
groaning there was a guy who used to
sweep the floor and he came into the
smackage came into
Yeshiva in the front hall guys were
sitting Bas guys were sitting every was
on the floor and he
looked and somebody said to him you
didn't speak good English to guy
somebody said was is
dead an expression of his
face and he just left his broom and
walked out
fores
that so
hard was so hard for K's resol not just
us and after Levi in Brooklyn
manatt put his are an
entity herse I guess it
was crowds such crowds you can't believe
50,000 e maybe
more they reach forward to touch the
hearse to touch him
what a Devastation for was bless of that
man man who shaped the
generation and future
Generations shaped all of
us who are listening today
and thousands more weren't
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listening and my friend who had been
with
him in the hospital before he died
because he took shifts in the
hospital told me that the Ron
came and she sat next to the bed and she
was in terrible shape what she saw what
he was going through
and he said to her and my friend heard
it and told
me I deserve it all he said in
yish I deserve it all he said there
comforting her of
course you know he's not getting what he
doesn't deserve I deserve it all because
I didn't accomplish enough
Bo
son he didn't accomplish
enough what do he say about the kid that
has a good
head and could be a good will be
S he turns out just to be another
schnook what about his
accomplishments it never happened
so of course there many of you that are
thinking listen I don't have the talent
and the Brilliance and the
brains I'm sorry to tell you right Bo s
I'm an old
man I've seen many things in my
life and I've
seen tremendous things accomplished for
ter for yish for
am by people who pure
Asia very untalented of all very
untalented just ordinary very ordinary
kids as R said the biggest mistake you
make is today I do this and then later
on it'll be like
that and you don't know that it will
explode
explodes like
popcorn when it's Expos when it's
exposed the fire of ter
look what
happened that the best friend of the
Jewish people that has ever been in the
White
House was primarily not supported by the
Jewish
people and the people other the people
who supported
his
opponent rep people who hate
Jews not only they say so they say so
but they write in their
constitutions and the secular Jews who
have no Torah are with
them I is not good for you is not good
for your
people no we hold like this and this and
this how did that
happen if majority of secular Jews
support somebody's not good for
Jews Giuliani ran for Mar
mayor Italians will voted for
him when
dinkin the African-American ran for
mayor the blacks will voted for
him why don't you vote for somebody's
good for
you you know
why because Jews need something to make
them
smart how smart we are this one thing
that we don't
have we can never think
straight we can never think
straight we can never think straight
unless we have Torah in
us we can never think straight unless we
have Torah in us and all these Jews have
no Torah
we can never think straight that's a new
a unique trait of the Jewish
people we can never think straight
unless we have
children we don't think straight without
sir and just like T mixes think straight
R
Boi the same reason that makes us think
great and T thinks greater than
non such basic things as your own
welfare so T there's a lot of other
things toes
perfect makes even a fool
smarta is
pessy makes a fool
smart the person who doesn't learn that
to and understand
that remains a pessy
he gave us
life and no doubt
sh is
Ted the source of all
life who again win
we talk about be for
us should protect all of
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