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Ari Goldwag - Mikeitz - Dreams and Chanukah
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What is the idea of the teaching that the dream's manifestation follows the interpretation? What happens when one dreams after drinking wine? Is there intrinsic significance to the symbols in a dream? What is the depth of the idea of all the dreams in the story of Yosef? How does all this relate to Chanukah?
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2017 this week's parsha is parshas me
Cates and I'd like to share with you
some thoughts we always have partials
make it's the story of Yosef always
coincides with the holiday of Hanukkah
so I'd like to make a bit of a
connection try to understand what is the
message of the story of Yosef what's the
depth that's going on here and how does
that relate to the idea of Hanukkah or
the depth of the message of Hanukkah
also I'm very excited about the fact
that I just got a Hanukkah present of
this beautiful set of meddra shhhhhh
excuse me sorry about that brand-new my
parents got it for me with many more
fortune lots of commentaries so
hopefully it will add to our depth of
understanding as well okay I'd like to
share with you a mesh I want to focus in
on the fact that we have in this story
something really
interesting it's it's just it pulls us
into the story the fact that there are
all these dreams you know say if Himself
has the dreams at the beginning of the
story and he has those two dreams with
with his brothers bowing down to him the
sheaves and the stars
some of them one of the stars and then
we have the dreams at the end of last
week's parsha the Tsar mushki and
sorrowful the the one who was in charge
of the bread of Paro Pharaoh and when I
was in charge of the wine the cup bearer
of Pharaoh so they had their dreams and
then in this week's partially we have
Pyro's dreams and each of their dreams
contains symbolism and needs explanation
and Yosef his has this amazing gift that
he's able to understand the symbolism of
dreams and he's able to understand the
message which is coming down from a
higher sphere to the particular
individual who has the dream and it's
interesting because to all of us I
believe you know I've myself as I
mentioned in my say from my book so I've
had dreams that actually were clearly
significant I had dream once about my to
villain melting and
and that happily happened I had a dream
once and then a few months later I had
the dream again and then that up getting
my tefillin checked and indeed the
letters inside of my tool and had melted
so this is something that goes on I
experienced it myself perhaps many of
you have as well that we can get
messages from a higher realm in our
dreams sometimes it has to do with who
we're supposed to be or sometimes it's
our subconscious mind giving us a vote
of confidence whatever it is we have
dreams and the dreams
sometimes are significant sometimes
they're not but certainly in the story
of Yosef we see that they are
significant now I'd like to share with
you as a metrics that speaks about the
concept of dreams and the idea that
depending on the way a dream is
interpreted that will actually affect
how the dream manifests so this is a
significant idea and and I'd like to
understand I'd like to understand the
idea I can understand how it applies to
us perhaps or what's the idea in the
context how it can connect the hanukkah
let's see
- apparently I if darlin so the so power
at the beginning of our of our parsha
has these two dreams and he's very
disturbed by the dreams the fat cows and
the skinny cows and the skinny cows
swallow up the fat cows and the same
thing with the wheat and there are seven
of them etc he doesn't know what the
symbolism is we all know because we've
heard the story so many times but power
didn't know and he was very very
disturbed by the dream and the Tsar ham
asked him who had been in jail with
Joseph and Joseph had interpreted
history in two years previous so he
remembered he remembered Yosef and the
interpretations that were correct that
Yosef gave and
he wanted to you know bring this
opportunity to Paro to Pharaoh to be
able to have someone interpret in his
dreams interesting that the measure says
that the Tsar mojgan wasn't like so
altruistic here he was concerned that if
Paro if something would happend to power
he was so disturbed maybe he would die
or something what happened to him and he
would end up being replaced by a
different pharaoh who may or may not
hold him in esteem he may lose his job
so he wasn't really concerned
with Faro so much or are you for sure
not with the Oh safe with Joseph but he
was concerned about himself that's just
an interesting side point
but in telling over the jury and in
telling over the fact that he had had
these dreams and that you know Steve had
an interpreter the dream so the Serra
mush game gave the opportunity for
Pharaoh to bring power out to bring I'm
sorry to bring yo safe out of the jail
and in so doing you know safe at the
opportunity to explain the dream he did
indeed explain it properly and he was
appointed to be the second-in-command
only to Pharaoh as the new leader of the
the really the world at the time because
Egypt was the greatest power at the time
similar to what America is today
so now Vanessa Birla Victor Olano so he
told yo safe he told power about yo save
sorry that he had translated and
explained the dreams that he Sarah
Mushka Matt had along with the sorrow of
him now the message brings us a story
brings us a true story came hava Dada in
Tisa there was a story with a particular
woman the autistic a rebellious are who
came to rebel early as ur 'martha
commies become me cheresa the veissy
tavira she said I saw in my dream that a
certain
certain object in my house was broken Oh
Marla I the old nesebar the carvaka yay
so rebel eyes you explain the stream
that it means that you're going to give
birth to a child and he's going to live
meaning what was the broken vessel in
our dream it was referring to the fact
that maybe her water was going to break
or the fact that she was going to have a
child would come into the world so he
interpreted it positively us as to have
a look cane so she went and indeed
that's exactly what happened she had a
baby and
the baby was normal and fine Isis
monochrome LaMichael na she came another
time to ask a really Ezzor the meaning
of her dream okay tell me de y'all soon
time on varaha Lahab agave on
so she found that the students were
there but but the robber abuser was not
there I was lying while new robbed plain
so she said to them where is your
teacher where is rebellious her mala a
Merlin mad boyo they said tell us what
you need maybe we can help van anomeric
I'm in luck we can answer you our
low-income is becoming sure you should
have a seat Veera she said I solved the
vessel in my house was broken mala is a
cover by Allah so they said this dream
means that the thing that's going to
break is your husband that you're gonna
end up burying your husband Cavin in a
fog is McGovern showing me a Lola so
when she left she started to cry she
walked out and she was crying out sure
what color really is everybody is there
apparently he had returned by this point
and he heard her yelling around ahoy my
Martin holiday so he said to them what
did you say to this woman all right now
years since Isis the Michelle you saw or
la no ma Martin law so he said well she
came to ask you a question so he said to
him what did you tell them what did you
tell her I relay cadena Kadeem they say
this is what we told her we told her
that the meaning of the dream is that
her husband's going to die our Lahaina
valeton Guevara so really as I said to
them you caused the loss of a human
being of a human life that can exceed
BOHICA she posted on a cane Hoyer and he
quoted them the verse in our parsha this
very verse that that Hamas came said to
Paro that exactly the way that he
explained the dreams is exactly what
occurred so what do we see we see from
here that based on the way a dream is
interpreted so then the interpretation
of the dream is what takes effect so the
dream could actually be interpreted in
different ways as we see what vilasa
first explained the dream the same dream
to mean that she's going to have a child
and then they explained his students
explain the dream that they're going to
that she's going to lose her husband and
indeed the explanation effects what
occurs in the dream and there's a
Gomorrah in breakfast that speaks
extensively about
interpretation of dreams and how the
interpretation effects the
outcome of what how the dream manifests
and it talks about a particular story
with somebody who there are two people
that used to come to him to Sage's would
come to this particular person who could
interpret dreams one of them would pay
him one of them wouldn't pay him what
who paid him here we give positive
interpretations one who gave we would
wouldn't pain give him they gave
negative interpretations and however he
interpreted the dreams is indeed what
happened but we see that the
interpretation affects the dream was
very interesting it's very
remarkable
ok relate annamaria : Revere Kannan said
something slightly different which is
interesting as well
Kohala haha I pissed on Koosman a yayan
when it comes to the dreams being
interpreted so it always goes after the
interpretation except for a dream that a
person has when he when he drinks wine
when a person drinks wine and he has a
dream so then the interpretation of the
dream does not affect the dream does not
affect the manifestation of that dream
ich mache I save a type light for those
who drink and the dreams that they have
will be will be positive dreams will be
interpreted positively vation wishes
choice' obviously Murali there are those
who drink when they drink so the result
of their drinking when it comes to the
dreams that they have it's gonna be
negative Thomas Holcomb scheisse Vitale
when I want a Torah scholar drinks so
the result is that he has positive
dreams and positive interpretations arts
shy severe alloy so when a person who is
an ignoramus when he drinks so the genes
that he's going to have are gonna be
negative and they're gonna have negative
outcomes
ok so that's just an interesting thing
and then we have the final point which I
which I also find to be interesting of
our BFO I think really anything that's
through dreams is pretty interesting oh
my elbow different columnist named Allan
Bellamy reiden he says that when it
comes to the dreams so the subject of
the dreams the the subject matter of the
dreams does not have any effect it's not
it doesn't the the way it's it's not so
clear exactly what he's saying here but
earlier we see in regards he said this
exact statement in regards to the dream
of Yaakov and Jacob had a dream of a
ladder with with angels going up and
down the ladder and the ladder
symbolizes the ladder is not literal and
in so rabii of always saying that when
it comes to the
understanding of what the dream means
the symbolism within the dream is just
that its symbolism it's not literal the
ladder that Yaakov saw symbolised
represented something the cows that
Pharaoh saw represented something the
sheaves that Yosef saw in his dream they
represented something the actual literal
thing that you see there is not to be
taken literally but rather it symbolizes
something so when it comes to
understanding what a dream means we need
to know that it it's symbolic I'm just
remembering how in my dream when I saw
my tefillin melting so in actuality was
the letters inside the ink of my of the
letters inside of my tefillin on this on
the parchment inside of my to fill on
had melted but the in my dream the
bottom the outside melted that it's
filling themselves month it was symbolic
of the fact that there was something
that had happened to my the letters and
my scrolls and the inside of my phone
which is just pretty cool so guess what
we have always is saying so now the
thing that I want to discuss the idea I
want to talk about or try to understand
it's like what's that what's the idea
here of the dreams what's the idea of
the dreams of yo safe and and the dreams
of this are much game and pyro of
Pharaoh and I just want to understand
like the depth of what's going on here
and also related to Chanukah like I said
one of the things that I was thinking
about which i think is pretty clear as
we read these stories you know the
Saruman is sorrow from in last week's
partial Eden those dreams didn't really
affect them right so those dreams the
Tsar Amash given three days was about to
be released no matter what and he was
going to be put back in his place the
sorrow from the Baker he was about to be
released and be killed the fact that he
had though that they both had those
dreams wasn't really for them those
dreams were really they happened because
it was necessary for Yosef in order to
be released two years later
sorry mushroom needed to remember the
fact that he had interpreted the dreams
properly that's just an important point
yeah Paris dreams Pharaoh's dreams also
were they really necessary and important
for pyro himself so yes and no yes
because he needed to know that his
country was going to have a famine you
needed to prepare for it but it was more
significant and important that that the
dreams occur for Yosef so Yosef could
get into the position of power which was
necessary in order for his original
dreams to be fulfilled because there are
two parts of the dream one is that Yosef
is meant to be the leader the ruler over
the world really he's meant to be the
ruler the leader over Egypt which is the
center of the world at that time the the
greatest power in the world at a time so
the Jewish people and they are being led
by Yosef Yosef is the is meant to be the
leader of the Jewish people that's
clearly the theme that's going on
throughout these parties so we are meant
to come into Egypt and to have a certain
effect on Egypt the Jewish people are
meant to be there and have an effect the
result speaks about the fact that
ultimately we wanted the Egyptians to
convert we had many many converts from
the Egyptians by the time you see some
time the exodus occurred but it begins
with Yosef and it begins with the fact
that Yosef at sadiq is great righteous
individual he is the one who provides
for the physical needs of the country of
Egypt and ultimately the entire world at
that time and so that's the beginning
that's the first part of the fulfillment
of Yosef dreams but the second part
really is the depth of the fact that he
is not just a leader over the world he
is a leader over the Jewish people and
that is what he's trying to bring into
play when it comes to the brothers
coming in Jana so he doesn't remember
the things that they did walk to him why
because that's not really significant
time he had a very clear perception that
everything that had gone on with him
until that point was in order for him to
reach the position which he was supposed
to reach which was to lead the world and
ultimately to lead the Jewish people and
he knew and this is something we spoke
about in previous weeks but he knew that
he needed them to choose him to bow down
to him they're bowing down there the
female aspect Joseph is the male aspect
he's the Sadiq he's the male aspect he's
though you say it aspect the tribes
themselves are the malkos aspect they're
the ones who surround him right that's
the female aspect the the female and
composite says the you know we found my
collar goes around the Hudson seven
times they're surrounding in his dream
so the the tribes surrounded him and
bowed out and that's the aspect of him
being the leader the male aspect and
them being a reflection of his
leadership then then they are bowing
down to him so but he needs them all to
be that aspect which is why he makes
sure that Benjamin comes down because he
needs all 12 of them or really all 11 of
them to bow down and he is the center
they need to admit to his leadership to
his greatness to his power to the fact
that he is the one who's meant to guide
them to help them but physically give
them food which which happens
immediately on their arrival but also in
a spiritual sense give them direction so
one of the things that Yosef is trying
to do is that he's trying to make sure
his job you know it seems like very
strange like what is he doing why is he
running them around and giving him such
a difficult time but he he knows that
he's their leader he's the one who is in
charge of their spiritual perfection but
you know creating tikkun him they had
done something wrong in the past and
they knew that they needed to rectify
that but beyond that you're safe Joseph
was the leader of the Jewish people and
he needed to as in the pacify of I obey
as the bus am royal of iam he was
bringing a negative report to their
father why was he doing that at the
beginning of the story because he was
the leader he was in charge of them he
needed to help them they hadn't
acknowledged it yet only later were they
able to acknowledge it and and that was
his job he understood that he realized
that he knew that his original approach
to them was correct it was just too
early and so that this bring me to the
point which I really want to bring which
is an amazing thing that has all say
that when a person has a dream so they
should wait up to 22 years for that
dream to be fulfilled and that brings me
to an amazing point that we find that it
where'd of Hazael get it from where do
our sages get it from from Yosef and
Sadiq because from the time that he was
17 when he originally had the first set
of dreams until the time that the
brothers came and bowed down to him was
22 years he was 39 years old at that
point right because it had been 13 years
he was 30 when he stood in front of Paro
seven years of the good years had passed
two years of the famine had passed so he
was 39 years old at that point it had
been 22 years since he had left his
brothers
they didn't recognize him because he
didn't have a beard at the time that he
left and they did he recognized them
they didn't recognize him as the major
speaks about so but it was 22 years I
mean that's a long time think about it
that's it that's an incredibly long time
but all that time he knew that he had
had these dreams and the dreams were
going to be fulfilled but he had the
patience to see that the dreams were
going to be fulfilled and indeed he
acted in a way to cause the dreams to be
fulfilled which is why he was having
them bring Benjamin bring Benjamin back
down as Rashi tells us but the idea that
I want to bring out is the patience the
patience of Yosef he had tremendous beat
Ockham he always had a positive attitude
when it came to everything that was
going on in his life he did take the
opportunities he did recognize he saw
immediately when those dreams occurred
to Sara Mishima sorrowful they didn't
need those dreams he saw that
immediately it was obviously for him he
didn't know how that was gonna manifest
he tried to bring about the next stage
he did put in effort he did do that it
was too much you had to wait another two
years but Lamesa there was a patience on
his part there was a patience a deep
patience DP Tahoe and a trust that the
dreams would be fulfilled he would
indeed become that great leader that he
was meant to become and indeed that's
what happens
now I was thinking about it in terms of
of Hannukah relating it to Hanukkah
Hanukkah
the holiday occurs in the winter occurs
at a time when it's very dark and the
story itself occurs in a very dark time
in Jewish history when hellenism was
taking hold there were very few people
within the Jewish people who were
dedicated to the Torah to the precepts
of the Torah to keeping the traditions
alive of the Jewish people many people
had become affected deeply affected by
the the Greek theology and and their
their complete dedication to physicality
as opposed to spirituality and that's
really what the war had to do with but
the darkness the darkness reminds me of
the of the dreams the dreams of Yossi of
are like these these points of light in
a very for twenty-two years think about
it or at least thirteen years from the
time that he had the dreams until he
became the leader in Egypt so it was an
incredibly dark time for him but there
were these points these small points of
light and the points of light were the
dreams themselves that had to shine
through the darkness for him and provide
for him that that ability to see to
recognize think about the fact that
Hashem is with him he has very you know
think about it he was in jail for 12
years what did he have to hold on to
what did you have to hold on to but he
knew he could see a few different things
the main thing I think was the dreams
that he had originally and then when the
Sarah open Sarah Martin came in those
dreams again those were the points of
light and Pharaoh's dream again was
another point of life for Yosef
he also had the positivity the the the
recognition of the fact that whatever he
was doing he had a slacker he had yet to
dish my he had divine help that was
clearly there as well but another thing
that I want to bring out is the fact
that he saw the dreams and you know
these dreams could have happened in in
numerous different ways perhaps you know
originally if the brothers would have
accepted him at the at the onset of the
story but things would have been
completely different they won't have had
to go down to Egypt perhaps or they
would come down instead of in Chains or
in you know in a very negative way of
them selling him etc it could have it
could have been translated the the
dreams could have been interpreted on
the ground differently but this is how
it turned out it turned out based on
that you know that's just how they
understood it that the brother is
interpreted negatively you think you're
going to rule over us and as they
understood that the dreams meant that
that he's supposed to rule over them but
are they going to accept that rulership
they're not gonna accept it so easily so
they interpreted the dreams in a way
that would cause it to take a long time
but you know save had the patience for
that interestingly there's different
ways of even Pharaoh's dream itself the
measure says that he could have
interpreted it different ways it could
have been instead of 7 and 7 it could
have been 14 and 14 or could have even
been 42 years of famine and two years
only happened now but the other 40 years
happened later it's very interesting
it's worth seeing the measures but the
idea I want to bring out is that the
dreams go by the interpretation Hashem
gives us something he gives us potential
and manifests based on how we receive it
Joseph has a dream the brothers receive
it in a certain way so it manifests the
way that they receive it or don't
receive it in their case
and it's the same thing with the dreams
in the story with the woman who had that
broken vessel in her dream and and it's
the same in you know Hashem gives us the
dream is like a point of light it's a
potential how does it manifest for us
how do we receive that light in the
story of the maka beam in the story of
Hanukkah so they had the light that they
received was this ability to overcome
their enemies they were so small amount
of people they were they were few they
were they were
dedicated to you - guy - Judaism - the
precepts of the Torah and we still had
that today it's manifest today because
of the way that they received those
miracles they received that light they
established that we should light these
candles these little candles and
recognize that there's a little bit of
light in the darkness and the darkness
of the winter and the darkness of our
gullies of exile the darkest where it
seems that all of the forces from
outside the second of forces are coming
and trying to destroy us but there's a
little bit of light can we connect the
dots can we connect a little bit of
light and
receive that light and interpret that
light that it applies to us and how it
applies to us and count me of the
patients when the light only shines a
little bit here and a little bit there a
little bit of light here another another
little bit the next day other a little
bit the next day can we receive that
light
can we interpret that light and
recognize that it speaks to us and and
not just ignore the dream but actually
be disturbed by the dream or or inspired
by the dream inspired by the light and
see that that light is talking to us so
I want to bless you and I ask you to
bless me a chef should help us to take
the opportunity of the lights of
Chanukah to receive that light to
interpret that light see how it applies
to us just yeah that's spirituality
that's stored from so long ago talks to
us and how we can break out of the
Hellenism that's in our days shrim
should help us to learn from this story
of yo se if the patients that he had
despite them the negative
interpretations of the dream the
patients that he had for the ultimate
positive interpretation of the dream the
true depth of the interpretation which
he understood himself should help us to
have that patience to learn from a neo
safe to see the spirituality in our
lives and to receive that light and xem
should help us to be zakat to merit the
rebuilding of the temple and we'll all
rededicate the temple and see those
amazing menorah lights burning in our
base some English from here me me know
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