Ari Goldwag - Devarim-Tisha B'av - Understanding Esav

listening to the weekly partial podcast with Ari Gold wag recording with arm is never-ending assistance in Ramat Patricia's real 5778 2018 this week's parsha is parshas the forum and I'm always interested to try to understand we always have partial varam right before tisha buff which is when we commemorate the destruction of the first and second temples but timing - and many many other tragedies that occurred on this day which are all a result all of the Exile the Jewish people as a result of the destruction of the temple so why do we read parshas the forum it's always it always falls out right before tisha Bhavan in this week so at issue of is Shabbos we fast on Sunday so what is the centrality of parshas the forum what do we or what are we to learn from it that has to do with tisha buff with this day of fasting with this day of mourning and I believe that there are numerous different instances within the parsha that have to do with tissue bob one of them is there's a description the fact that the Jewish people cried and we're therefore decreed that they stay in the wilderness for 40 years and that's something that occurred on tissue buff but besides for that I think there's something central here and that has to do with with Asaph interestingly there's a whole section in the Madras I'm gonna read for you a bunch of different pieces from to Madras not every single piece I can't read it all it's not enough time we had a few hours we could read them all but here it refers to the people of Edom the people of Asaph chapter 2 verse 2 it says like this I'll read a few so came a few verses my my show me a lie anymore God said to me as follows raveloe hem service AHA Rosa you no longer need to be surrounding this mountain Panola hamsa fauna turn north yes I'm selling more and command the nation as follows a time I ever make vous la fete emanates of you are passing over into the borders of your brothers the children of Asaph of Esau I am a sailor who live in Sayre the euro me cam - Martin they will be afraid of you and you should be very careful Altus girl bombs don't start up with him Eli Taylor hey me art so I will not give you any piece of their land admit rakov ruggle even a spot for you to stand key Russia lay Asaph southeast heart sailor ace of interestingly is referred to as the brother of the Jewish people and his great-grandchildren were considered brothers in a certain way and this this place is location where they live which we called which was called Sayer was specifically an inheritance for the children of Asaph Jewish people are not to get anything from that place I hold teach premier tombak SF the Haltom how do I got mine till crewmate come back and say we should see some you can buy food from them you can buy drink from them show me how Barack of the Hamas a good car you're you're gonna you have the blessings God has been with you for 40 years rest lips I can say and posture class says verse 8 says but never miss a few minutes of you sure miss a yer there are rubber make a last minute and go ver Navy Managua Derek with Moya of they pass through the land of a sub okay so now the metric tells us some amazing things in regards to the Jewish people our relationship with Asaph who is a sub and let's remember that the as the measure she is going to say as hopefully we'll see who were the the offspring of a sub ultimately with the Roman people the Romans were considered Edom and today the Western world in Kazan are in are the works of our sages the Western world is you know whether it's Europe whether it's the United States they are considered Rome and they are considered the offspring of a sub so we need to understand who they are and what is their role in history and what is their role when it comes to mushiya when it comes to the advent of the Messianic age because it's very clear as well soon see that they are players and we see that that yaakov innate so these two brothers the Jewish people and the people of who descend from Rome descend from a sub in Rome we're brothers as we saw in the verse we are brothers and so we need to understand what is this what is the role of ace of who was he who was he personally because the forbear of a nation leaves a spiritual imprint upon his children so major says like this and this is in the first chapter of devar I'm in the first section of the mattress obviously it's on this puss up here looking here in chapter 2 verse 4 rather him saving Sahara Isaiah the verse says literally it means it's enough for you to be surrounding this mountain this is speaking again at the end of the 40 years of the Jewish people's stay in the wilderness so we speak about the fact that that they're gonna have to pass through the land of Asaph and then you can't start up with asa don't start up with him why so one of the things the magic tells us is that there was a specialist course special merit that ace have had what was the great spiritual merit that ASA had and his progeny you know earned so to speak or received as a as an inheritance emember shinning him leo like cubit Bria's a voice of kamayani as a voice i Mishima Gamliel was at Ana lived about 2,000 years ago so he told us he tells us that there was nobody in the world at his time who had shown honor and respect for his parents the way that he did what's uh see shakira is Alaba VI sorry many but assuming him leo says that ace of he he honored his parents you are and his father in a more deep way Cates odd what was the difference between the way were mentioning I'm Leila honored and ace of honored I'm Jimmy I'm Lila I use michelle michaud became the same when it came to the way that I would serve my father and I would honor him so I'm shooting I'm Leo tells us and and I so that the Pearson explained that he would wear clothes that were not such nice clothes you wear clothes that show his subservience to his father that showed that he was a servant of his father however remission Gamliel tells us I'm a valet Sedlacek a nice son Kile Olivia Shoshanna - Ovid hey Nolan the clothes that ASA would wear when he came in to serve his father yet stock Isaac so those clothes were very beautiful and special clothes they were called Camus dice and he brings the whole story of how Yaakov stole the blessings but he put on the clothes of a sub which were beautiful clothes which rifki Rebecca was taking care of on behalf of a svet a so we're especially when he came to serve his father so he see that Asaph had a tremendous spiritual power and it was a result of his service of his father his scuba-dive aim is honoring his father hallo Martha chase away Isaiah before the voice so we see from this then a sub is somebody who's her careful about honoring his father I'm Rev you reviewed and says kingship oh you stole a sexy Mahama when the people of Israel came to pass through his land and it could have been a time of war harro hawkish broke will dementia is a higher she always Qumran boy God showed Moshe Rabbeinu Moses the mountain in which the forefathers were buried which is a reference to have run the city of heaven where the like the Marisa pilla the Cave of Machpelah is and where the forefathers of bury the Merlyn moisture Merlyn leaves ro emptiness Davila so you said to Moshe speak to the people of Israel and tell them that you cannot fight with Edom you can't fight with offspring evasive actions package Lascar a kyboot because he still has the scar the reward for his having honoured his father isaac give it as a lyric for maharaja he honored those who were buried on this mountain the mountain of quran mean i mean how do we know me Masha Karina mania in Rotherham save us ours and verse says you can travel ahem service ahara rasa there's something red literally means it's enough of you being around this mountain but what it's also saying in the measures to measure is understanding it to mean that you can't get around you have to go around this mountain what's the mountain it's reference to the mountain of have roan because of the honor that the ACE of showed his parents measure continues Java Rocka Rolla hem save a Sahara is s ession reclusive me IV Lanie ear mats or zero me the measures tells us that the verse until I'm the verse in Psalm chapter 60 verse 11 says who can let me pass through a city which is completely protected what is this a reference to said the manage the reference to Rome King David was saying that I cannot pass through Rome I cannot penetrate the the offspring of Asaph King David of course we need to understand the many uses King David because I'll do as I say just do as a representative of Messiah the Messiah cuz he is the great great-grandfather of Messiah who the Messiah so when he says I cannot penetrate Rome what are you saying is that in the future there will be a time when the Jewish people cannot penetrate Rome and the measures points out that dub himself King David ruled over over the Adame people there's there's no opinion exactly in what way he showed his his rulership either is because he had tax collectors or he had statues of himself which showed that he was the ruler there but he ruled over them nevertheless there was something that was impenetrable about about the people of Rome the Romans had power over the Jewish people the Jewish people did not have power over them Navarro heard of it on in solid iris from moisture applications doll Ibrahim there was a command says the man Josh well this is later on in the piece I've skipped something here there's a command to dub it that you can't you can't overcome or we see that King David was was recognizing the fact that he can't overcome it just like Moshe Rabbeinu that he tried or he wished - to come into some kind of war with the people event nobody wasn't able to Marty Lee Rotherham and I said to him it's enough for you you can't overcome him Ravi's Avila tell me though Samy Sahara is a the measure says that the another explanation excuse me of the words Rob ahem saves are Isaiah is that that there's something that you need to be a teacher to your students and for future generations including King David that you you know you can't overcome them now it's very interesting here we need to understand what the idea is is that most Shah Bano himself it sounds like he wanted to battle with with Asaph King David it seems he wanted to battle or that there would be a time in the future when the Jewish people would want to battle with him and yet there's a warning here don't you can't start up with them and it sounds like the reason is because of his was the merit of his great-great-grandfather which was the great the great great-grandfather of the people of Adam which was keeping of aim honoring its okay it's very interesting here I'm gonna read you another piece I might be Shubin levy very interesting and this has to do obviously with issue of the destruction of the temple the destruction of the base my gosh maybe Sherman lady Sybil Shabbo assign Omaha commercial I'm when the enemy came to destroy Jerusalem and speaking about the Romans are you some shishun rebou Shamas Egon there were 60,000 demons for how you earn our Pisgah shall hey caliph ahem and the demons were actually standing there at the entrance of the temple in order to protect the temple and not allow the Romans to destroy Kaman Shiro Asahina very shy Seca's but then the demons saw that the divine presence was there and the divine presence was not stopping the Romans from coming in so mean and she how do we know that this is true shakes if hey Shiva for you mean I mean IIF the verse in a huh in lamentation says the God turned away he turned away his right hand as it were because of or in front of the enemy of hymnal mocking so even though they had wanted to stand and destroy the enemy of the Jewish people they let him pass through a baby through the Barsoomian Ross and Marcus base of a shy circle a time of action is Davey glowy action is baggage less car key with a voice off very interesting the honor of the the fact that he had honored the fact that Asaph had honored his father came back why - I'm stand back as it were why not shall allow the Romans to destroy the temple what was it about again it came back this hosts merit that he had honored his his father very interesting let's continue on here what is the idea here Irish mob our Roth Gedaliah omakase superfluous on a pariah here's another merit there was another merit that aiso had why did Hashem stand back and allow the Romans to destroy the temple another merit he had was that be shush in Lausanne Yaakov darling so if there's another thing that I shot to pay back as it were allow him to get through and that is that when when Yaakov came back when Jacob returned with his whole family and ASA was coming out to greet him with 400 battle-worthy men so Yaakov sent a Dyron a present a gift wow so Homer Lily Ashley robbed looted steyr ASA said I don't I don't need the gift I have so much please don't be bothered so since he said usually rob I have so much I'm Rocco - for collection Isaiah keep dying blushing as Annie I'm her like a new Mila fun of problem save because of the fact that used to arrive I have enough in order to honor Jacob so therefore I'm said Roth look I'm so used the same exact word enough it's enough for you to go around that you were around this mountain so the beginning of the statement of a culture spark of God to the Jewish people is don't start up with him and use the word rough enough because that's the same word that a subview so we see that there's another merit that you Asaph has and this allows him to to not have to come up against a fight against the Jewish people the Jewish people are not permitted to fight against the Romans they're not permitted to fight against the people as they come into the land of Israel it's very interesting okay now I'd like to read to you a little bit more and see we'll see how much we can get done in the time that we have Deborah Kerr my ravel ahem I'm Arab aha Megan attempt oh gosh Allah hey madam million another amazing interesting measures that you can't start off with him why why can't you start if you start up with him starting up with yourselves if you mess with their blessing with the blessing of a sub so you lose your own blessing since the measures Kate said Broca's Berkeley Aviv there's one blessing when Jacob stole the blessings from from a sub so there's one blessing that Asaph did receive that was the harbor hotel here you shall live by your sword well Yaakov Berryessa bravas Jacob received ten blessings in that instance me nitric ink see if I eternal Harlequin meet Allah show my look at the blessings over there speaking of the fact that God is going to give Jacob from the dew of the heavens in battaglia because sci-fi social hepatitis if you try to fight against them and and you overcome Asaph with the sword which is his only blasting that he has so then you will lose your template sings Rawal comes safe so therefore don't don't start off with him very interesting okay so we see a number of different interesting concepts hopefully we'll try to bring them together and get a picture of what is the idea that's going on Omer Bhatia more lehem but here says that God said to the Jewish people in recent research from of actually scars for him if you see that a sieve is trying to start up with you I'll Tom do connect I do not stand in his way that's beam Watts Mikami men hide yourself on him how'd she have our alumni until his his world passes have you been Elohim Safina that's what the verse means when it says face go toward the northward so fauna which means north can also be to hide fool means to hide revealed about Shawn I'm Elise rel my buddy Sean I'm Aviva vorkul Harcourt if you Tomas give me my my Merlyn Watts peanuts becoming part of LA - a problem so Jewish people said to God they address God and said you know the our forefather Isaac so we gave the blessing that you should live by your sword and you agree with this blessing where are we supposed to run you want us to hide ourselves where we supposed to go over the hem so what's what we do where do we go when the drum the war drums are beating where do we go where do we run away to or in Hammon recent novel ahem Beulah Tyra run away to Tora it's a final Tyra because it says burn welcome to find a go to the north go to the place of hiddenness that's a reference to torsion mr y it's pointless charm to Shia there's hidden within the Torah for those who are righteous there is something which gives them strength and it gives them salvation number aqua mount so final America drew Humpty no an action of Melaka mushiya lover Akaya mara - ruff - whoa wait until there's another something pendulum so fine it can also mean go to something that's hidden as we said what's the thing that's hidden there's something that's hidden that's waiting for us wait until the times the Messiah the times of the Messiah's will soon seen all the time who soon see are the times when the power of Asaph is destroyed even though yes he had power for many many millennia as a result of his serving his father as a result of showing kindness and honor to his father as well as a certain level of Honor toward his brother Jacob but there's a point where that Zeus ends his point where that ends and that is when we see a horizon Messiah arrives now let's see about that because that's the last section we're going to speak about here I'm Irish will burn off me - I'm Yakko Yakko bikini bottom Isaac office after after Jacob offered this gift to a sub so ASA said to him that's I have enough and yeah I said no I I want you to take the gift and an ace have offered to accompany Yaakov as he travels and Jakob said no you go ahead I'm not interested in you I don't need you to accompany me and ASA was really saying in its essence what was what was the far-reaching impact of what he meant or what it was it could have been he said I want to walk alongside you right let's walk together in this world and how's that órale Yaakov Jacob says yeah for now I don't know if now I'm doing he says no I want you to go ahead yeah we're not tall along for tequila you go ahead first you be the one who takes this world as it were and I'm going to be the one who takes the next world when it comes to the times of Mushaf the times of the Messiah instead of the Western world being in charge instead of the world of Rome the world of Edom world of physicality being in charge so the Jewish people will be the ones who are going to be in charge and the world of Adam will disappear okay Irish mob are not when Hazara Kamakura relay I'm at sea no Santiago in Mesa be Sayer they're interesting right the verse says I assure Allah don't say era you go ahead until I meet you at the mountain of Ser when did that happen it didn't happen in time emotion Rubino didn't happen the time of jacob Moshe was told you know we got to go around that we ran a lot to take over that place at which point does it come that the Jewish people take over the legacy of Adam of Rome of the West at which point mouths see your armor lay I'd actually usually l'homme shake the machine Department I say yeesh it's going to be in the future time when I have set up judges and and rescuers or those who are powerful we're going to to pay off so to speak that person should never about all emotion the verse says it's a personal of varriya Obadiah chapter 1 verse 21 but all the Mishima English were desirous of isolation omluke while the verse talks about when the Messiah is going to come when God is going to have the full reign over the world that's when the Jewish people are going to finally do battle with a sub and they're going to win I mean instead of neckl - Bohr who everybody Shalom people of Israel said to God master of the world matzo mission well I'm gonna be out of how long do we have to be enslaved under the hand of Esau oral ahem Igoe I say I yeah I'm sure cuz oh boy until that time comes the verse says da roca Miaka become shaving means rel the star of Jacob will rise up and the the staff of Israel will rise up she ate Sikahema yuck we serve kashish elesif there's a point in time where the fire of Jacob will come and we'll burn up the straw evasive u19 Aaron's a versa is also Nevada chapter 1 verse 18 Valhalla basic ovations bcs of lava first the people of israel as the house of jacob the house of Joseph who will be like a fire and they will burn up the the house of Esau wreck of the ship Roku Oh a Shawnee my Fiamma who seem I'm like Halle from his Haim God says when at the time when I caused my rulership to come into the world and you see me clearly that is when it's going to happen should never have all emotion Marx young witch Buddha's hearts of that the Jewish people were finally able to battle the people of Asaph and destroy them destroy the physicality which the denies is the opportunity to have a true relationship with Hashem with God so it's an amazing picture I think that we see here from all of these Madras from one what the you know the point the first point is that there was something spiritual and powerful that ace have had now was a certain respect for his father that was respect for his brother as well and that was even there was even a possibility that they could accompany each other in this world but Yaakov says no you have this world you have a deposit the world as we know it has been ruled over and continues to be ruled over until the chef comes Thomas arrives by the West by Asaph but we see that the power of the West the power base of is slowly waning it is getting limited it is it's coming down the fire is burned and the Jewish people are starting to rise because we are coming into the times of Messiah of the Messiah and we see the promise here that ultimately the Jewish people will be the ones who will be the spiritual leaders of the world when a Shems when Shem reveals himself when it's the time forgot to be the king so he will reign through the Jewish people the Jewish people will be his agents it was an amazing picture that we see here it's also amazing I think that we see that the the power of ASA where does he get his power his power came from the beginning because of his keeping of Fame his this it was a spiritual power that God gave to him and the Jewish people cannot start up with at the point when Moshe I mean is walking into Israel it's a point where it seems like perhaps this is the time of Messiah no it's not you at the time King David thinks that perhaps he is the one who's going to be the Messiah he was gonna to herald that the advent of that age no it's not King David either the time is waiting for us somehow the Jewish people are standing up in our present time and the time will be soon when indeed we will be Zephyr to man we will merit to see that the one who destroyed the temple the one who destroyed the spiritual worlds that Yaakov that Jacob the people of Israel have tried to build to build ultimately he will be vanquished and the Jewish people will rise up Naraku khomyakov the star will come out from Jacob come shave a nice row and it will rise the staff of the leadership of the Jewish people so I want to bless you and ask you to bless me I should help us to recognize that this is something that's going to happen soon Hashem should help us to be to be zakat a merit to see the ultimate rising of the Jewish people with the advent of Messiah nation' reveals himself may it be speedily and in our days thank you so much for listening our wonderful Shabbos and an easy fast this podcast was made possible through the gracious donations of listeners like you for more podcasts like this please visit www.carmensognonvi.com/newsletter [Music]