Bitachon 61- Singing Before Salvation

you're listening to the 61st edition of the talking podcast and we will read together the indian shira i'm going to say fair which is called it's yeshua nice book based on the list of sukim from from rezundal and in the back so there's a section that talks about the concept of song the idea of singing do we sing do we thank hashem for the yeshua before it happens or do we need to wait until after the yeshua the salvation has come already in order to thank him so i'd like to read to you what it says here isabel madrish the message tells us that yahshuafat king of the jewish people he went into a certain battle and he sang a song of victory before he actually uh before he actually went out to battle with says praises i will call out to hashem and he will save me from my enemies here's the language of the majesty it's the fourth passage of terror that we take the verse and we switch around the order as it were in order to understand or to to create an exegetical understanding of this when i'm saved from my enemies then i will praise kesha so rebuttan says that in order for us to be able to to praise hashem we need to first be saved so the problem with the posik which tribune is coming to explain by reversing the order of the worst words is that how can you praise god before you've even been saved but rahul says no it's actually that verse in tehillim that says that i'm praising hashem and then he's going to save me right so it's an incredible thing we can actually praise hashem for the salvation before it comes according to rafuna and that's what yahushua did the passage tells us that they started singing the praises of hashem and then the enemies who were lying in wait then they were vanquished the challenge would actually arise so they would already be praising hashem and as a result of their thanks for the salvation the salvation will come now i'm pretty sure he's going to talk about this point but i'd like to to mention it because uh i learned it pretty well in the gemara it's okay talks about how we say halal on the night of pesach and the question is the gemara asks when was hal-el written so we know king david wrote the psalms but some some of the parts of tehran were actually written previously and he actually collected them according to some opinions some of them he wrote so that particular section the gomorrah says how could it be that how could you bring a carbon pesach or how could you shake a lulov without saying hollow it can't be it must be that it pre-dated king david in fact the gemara says it goes back to the time of moshe rabbenu and the gemara goes through many different circumstances and it would seem that it was true in any circumstance where there was a challenge or difficulty that the jewish people would actually say the supreme of leilani so and by saying that by saying the praises which we say in halal which i'm filming this on tuesday and it's for scottish so we send it today but they would actually say these verses and the praise that they would say would actually in in a certain sense evacuate bring about the salvation that they sought and so it's very interesting because when you when you read the sukkam what were they saying they were saying don't give us salvation because of our merits so jewish people are facing off with a challenge and think about this for ourselves because this is important this applies to us we're facing off with a challenge with the difficulty we don't know how to go forward we don't know what to do the challenge seems too big for us well do we say hashem look at me look at all the myths that i do look at all of the good things that i do while shubor hashem we are all involved in thinking about working on different aspects of our sasham our service of god but we don't want to go there we don't want to count our merits because we never know if we're really good enough hashem knows what our potential is right so we don't want to go there so what we say is especially if we see that a difficult situation is in front of us clearly our merits weren't strong enough to save us from getting into the situation in the first place so we asked god not for our sake for your honor for your name bring about salvation bring about uh bring about the help us get out of this situation so you see in the gemara that there is such a thing as singing hashem say saying hallo before and saying how after which is what yoshafa did now let's continue here became afraid from rashford also rashi explains based on the majority this is what king david said was hashem the king david rashid explains that that's the intention of the madrid as we said that the explanation is that this is this verse is talking about which you know was the offspring of king david but he had it in him how did he know because this is what king david did he would praise hashem before the fact he would sing to hashem before the salvation arrived and that's what the verse means why how did he how did he know that he could sing praises of god before the salvation arrived because of his bitakam because of his absolute faith his absolute confidence in the salvation of hashem is i will i will praise and and call out god's praise i will call out his praises and i will pray to him constantly clement the language of rashi is that i will continue i will always even before the salvation i'll praise him why because i am so confident that there will be a salvation for my enemies khazinan says the mahabharata of the safer what we see is the aids that when it comes to somebody who has bitaken somebody who has that confidence in hashem shapiro ikeshira you you can sing to god you can sing to hashem before the salvation has arrived based on this we could ask him okay so so we find that he says that you can't sing until the salvation has come ayen he brings it the language here is like this obviously this is written when he was still alive we read from the brisker of right we learned from uh the bay salevi what does he say so we didn't see this particular point when is it based on this verse he understands that i trusted in you my heart rejoices in your salvation then for the kindness that he's performed for me so that positive seems to indicate that even though at the beginning of the past i trusted i knew it was going to come i knew the salvation was going to come i had confidence i'd be talking nevertheless says reply me brisk the the um the song should not be sung beforehand the song is only sung at the end okay so you know i have absolute confidence that you're going to save me when do i sing your praises when i receive that salvation after i experience the miracle that's when i sing so that's his understanding is that we only say the song we sing the song we say the praise of hashem after we've experienced the salvation okay so so how is he going to understand he obviously is coming from a different perspective and a different understanding so how will he understand the mattress the message is very clear that there is such ashita there is such an opinion that you that you indeed that's what yoshafa praising hashem before maybe it wasn't the song it wasn't the kind of song that uh that's included and therefore it's not a contradiction between the rep kaimi brisk and the madrush maybe it's not a song but he says it's not true amongst the ten songs that there are that the the message enumerates one of those ten songs is the song of yo shafat let's see it inside it's hashirazaki akasi there was a song in egypt itself when the jewish people were saved to the second one this passage is talking about the second of the songs the jewish people saying israel found another song in regards to when the jewish people had the the the well water the amazing well water the miraculous well of miriam they sang a special song goes on fourth the fifth the sixth the seventh achieve what's the ninth shaft they said praise this hashem for his kindness forever so but we see that all of these that all of these are songs including the song of yahushua so how will we how we uh reconcile these two concepts we'll be safer shiraz david yee shave so he explains his follows so here's a possible explanation and that is that what what were they counting as the song of yahushua foot they were counting the song are they saying afterwards because they're saying before and they sing after so that would resolve this difference between the majors okay so according to that will come out good okay um let's get here i'm going to skip a little bit i don't want to get so far into what the what the the brisker tyra is but rashi however says shira rashid sounds like it is it is indeed correct to sing gam koi demanes even before the salvation even before the miracle comes to david umar shakeen as rashi as we saw as we read he he points out he is madgish that it was something that he did constantly fun of tommy climber it's very clear from rashi that the song the praise that's being sung here the halo and we're praising hashem is before because i'm so sure that hashem is going to save me to say foreign he says like this he brings someone who the concept is like this and this is the the core that i really want to bring out it's so important because means that i'm already living in a place where it's it's happened i have what i want already it's already there just waiting for the moment when hashem is going to give it to me but i know it's there so i can already praise him it's a very powerful idea very important idea that there is such a thing rashi makes it clear the message makes it clear again we need to know what kami brisk holds but but let's hear the push-up shot the attribute of a righteous person is that as soon as they receive a promise from hashem they know it's going to happen something good is going to happen to they hear a song i'm sorry they hear that something good is going to happen they already sing the song to hashem of thanks immediately in the sky it's an easy mistake to make you know it seems like something's going well it seems like something good is going to happen but i don't know i'm not sure is it going to happen not sure so like do i say thank you hashem hey i i'm not holding on this level to say thank hashem as if it already happened personally but i could say hashem thank you for creating a situation that looks like it's gonna happen instead of waiting until oh i got i got what i needed and then say thank you hashem let me say thank you hashem that it looks like what i need is going to happen that's the level that we can perhaps aspire to be so he points out so that's the way of a person who's a mohammed a person who really believes in yeshua of hashem the salvation of god so he already feels like it's happened he already feels like it's time to praise hashem once the promise has come we do find that moshe waited until afterwards right it says that they sang as if then they sang after the fact right after the salvation occurred right why didn't they sing before bishop israel because the jewish people as a whole did not yet have that full confidence they didn't have their full says that when they reach that sense a feeling of confidence they saw that the mitzvah were there on the side they were dead the water spit them out and they realized that they were really free they were really saved it really was true so they were slave people they didn't yet learn to trust in hashem they hadn't developed yet but at the moment when they saw that it was really real that's when they sang their song but it's not a contradiction to the fact that someone can sing before if they really feel that it's real kleimer let me call it because this is some of the entire jewish people right think about it it's one thing we're talking really we're working on me and you right we're trying to develop our our faith in hashem we're trying to see ourselves in our lives we're trying to pick it up right but when we're speaking about the speaking about the general populace it's a much greater avoided to bring the entire jewish people to a level of amuna that they feel it already they feel that strength they hear the promise of hashem and that's it they know it's real and they can sing already that's that's that's a very high level he brings down an amazing thing at the end of this uh it's in it's in the safer birkhaus avraham that the person found it found this concept found this vort um in the savior birks avraham i'm sorry i'm messing this up let's get this at the end of the berges avraham he says openly that this was this answer was uh revealed to me by elijah the prophet when when when he had a personal miracle at the sea so the author who was telling us this shot heard it directly from elijah the prophet and there are people even until today are on a very high level they have gilead leo they actually experience an open revelation of elio anovi never died and he's still around he's in the form of a male sometimes in the form of a human being and there are people indeed who have the experience of having revelations umar talks about it and it's even true till today but this particular vote this idea was revealed to him by a leonavi the prophet elijah the prophet so that's the idea that we on a personal level have the ability to praise hashem before the fact we can work on our talking we can work on our confidence one of the ways as we said is perhaps we're on that level but perhaps just let's thank hashem when it looks like things are going to be good let's thank hashem right away let's let's feel let's strengthen our confidence strengthen our bitarchan and in so doing rise in our level of thank you so much for listening we'll see you again next time