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Bitachon 282 - More Or Less Efforts
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We continue our discussion of the opinions who say one should do a lot of efforts alongside believing the results belong to Hashem, but we also limit this with the opinion of the Chazon Ish who says that if one is acting out of fear in doing these efforts, it can indicate that the person is lacking Bitachon. We then go on to the opinion that speaks about specifically minimizing the efforts done so as to demonstrate one's Bitachon in Hashem.
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You're listening to the 282nd edition of
the Be Talkin' podcast.
And you might notice there's a little
floof on top of my microphone. That's
because it's a little windy here today.
We're heading into the rainy season in
Israel, Baruch Hashem.
So, we're in the middle of speaking
about the idea of bitachon and
hishtadlus, how we balance
our faith in Hashem, our trust in
Hashem, and efforts that we put in.
So, we were speaking about the one who
holds that you need to put in regular
efforts. We said the Ba'alei Rishus
Zohar
and Rabbeinu Bachya ben Asher and
Ralbag. Ones who hold this way are the
Rabbeinu Bachya and the Ralbag. Custom
Rabbeinu Bachya on the possuk "Sus
muchan l'yom milchama v'laShem hatshua."
That one is obligated indeed
or the possuk speaks of in Mishlei
the
horse that's prepared for the
battlefield,
but it's it is Hashem
who gives the person his salvation.
Melech al Hashem yaish here kol
adam mikas ha'zeh, she'yaseh kol davar
she'tzarich la'asos.
King Solomon is telling us that person
is obligated to do anything that's
needed. D'erech hateva k'mo she'hu
b'kocho.
And in a natural way, all that the
person can she'yimsar ha'she'ar b'yedei
Shamayim. And give over the rest
to Hashem. Which, I mean, if you're
doing everything that you can, so then
what is he giving in the rest to Hashem?
I would say that obviously
if I'm putting in efforts, that doesn't
guarantee results. So,
I do my best, I do as much as I can, and
then I leave the results to Hakadosh
Baruch Hu.
K'dei na'aseh nes k'lal b'chlal ha'teva.
So,
in order for there to be a a miraculous
type of event,
so needs to have a place to be chal. Oh,
it has to have a place for it to
take effect.
The human being is created and built
upon the aspect of nature.
Therefore, a person needs to do actions
that are preparations from to receive
and to attain that which he wishes.
Well, I don't know what this means, boy.
And to stand up for
and I would say prove in a certain way
to himself and to Hashem
that this is what he wants.
For example, a person wants to go in
battle on his enemies.
It's appropriate for him to uh prepare
weapons and horses and
chariots for the day of of battle.
What's we are learning of? If he doesn't
prepare and
and he depends upon a miracle
so he'll be given over into the hands of
his enemies.
Which is interesting. I was just
speaking to my mother on the way to this
location.
And we talked about there are two
different types of wars. One is Mashiach
ben Yosef war, which is the kind that
we're in now.
Where we have to put in efforts, which
is what he's speaking about. And there's
a deeper war, another type of war which
is which is a Mashiach ben David war,
Hezekiah war.
He goes to sleep, he davens, he wakes up
in the morning, the enemies are dead.
But the Rabbeinu Bachya is speaking
about
our type of war.
Once a person has done
all that's within his power
and also he did all the normal and
natural
type of preparation
so a person should have in mind
which is difficult obviously if you're
putting in every effort.
But don't make the mistake that it's
you.
I need to make sure to have in mind that
it's Hashem is going to give me success.
It's not because of these preparations.
Yes, you not to will mean by the day
because person can
lose a battle even if he's done all of
the preparations.
Person can win even without them.
So then my client says and this is the
beginning of partial schlock.
That the main salvation
when it comes to the matter of
war is not dependent upon the
preparations, but rather it's completely
dependent on Hashem.
Okay, so that's the way to go. Then he
brings the customer bag. Really what
does she start about this stuff with?
It's appropriate that a person make
efforts
in trying to get to a certain outcome.
She have any love.
That a person even if you're sure that
Hashem is going to help you. You believe
that you're going to have the shmo. You
should still
try to put in efforts.
Then you know, the person knows that
Hashem will help him.
You know, you should start out of the
way of receiving what nice is. Hashem
still wants us, going to this opinion,
>> [sighs]
>> and this is probably the level of you
talking that most of us are on.
Hashem does want us to do appropriate
actions,
take appropriate
preparations in order to get to our
goals.
In Roman is a shine on a nice.
If a person has seen, let's say I see
that I have Siyata Dishmaya. I see that
things are working out miraculously.
But,
I shouldn't take that as a reason to
assume that I can always depend on that
miracle.
You can't say Zemi Biyam Tiyase Boys.
I can't then go and say, "Oh well,
Hashem is doing everything for me."
Hashem sent me a job. I didn't even do
anything to get it. So, therefore, now I
don't need to do any Hishtadlus.
I should reveal the Tachlis out.
The in order to get to a certain
a certain result. Al Itira Kiguida
Mayusa Muftach Sheyinatzeach Lo Yovav.
We see in Tanach that Gideon Gideon
who was sure, he already had a promise,
that he's going to win against his
enemies. Yishtal Bim Bam Sas Kol
Siyavos. Yishtal Bim Shala Bam Bam Zeh.
He
nevertheless put in efforts and did all
that was necessary, all that could be
done
in order to fulfill
his goal.
Okay, so that's a quote from the Ralbag.
Harei Roim B'Mefurash Hadvarim.
We see explicitly
in the Ralbag's words,
She'Oden Sarch Lasos Kol Mashib Kicho.
The person needs to do everything that
he can.
Ve'ein Lo L'Katzair B'Siyavos Ela Yasah
Siyavos Yisah B'Yad Hashem Yisah.
You shouldn't cut back
on your efforts, but rather
you should do them
and trust in Hashem. Hashem's going to
give you success.
L'fi Shita Zo Yotzei, She'ein Had
Hishtadlus B'Mivtach B'Hashem U'Vilti
Mivtach.
>> [sighs and gasps]
>> According to this opinion, it comes out
that if you look at the two people, one
who trusts in Hashem and one who
doesn't,
you wouldn't be able to tell from their
efforts
that there's a difference between them.
Ach Hadal Hu B'Machshava U'V'Kavana
Amay.
The only difference is inside of the
person's mind.
Who does he think is giving him success?
The one who is
the one who trusts believes in is the
one giving him the success.
The one who doesn't trust believes that
his own efforts are the things that are
giving him success.
Is it a sham
on upon who he relies or on his own
actions?
Love David Rosen is saying
says I believe
my opinion is
that there is a difference when it comes
to the efforts done between someone who
trusts and someone who doesn't.
>> [snorts]
>> The type of excuse me, the type of
person who
does not trust in a sham. So when he
gets in a pickle, when he gets in a
bind,
so
he's going to turn to human beings maybe
to help him. He's going to turn to
idols.
But things that don't really have the
ability to help him
The person who is above me talking so
they're not going to turn away
to other things. They're going to turn
to a sham.
Because when he does all of his efforts
even without turning towards them toward
towards the the
seemingly successful means but really
not.
I would think of it also in terms of
maybe dishonest means.
So he is going to turn to to the correct
means Shamayim Azriel who Yevosha.
So, he will be saved. Hashem will help
him.
Kafisha Kaisa Chazonish is it's all like
the Chazonish writes Yesh Gedolim
B'Pulesha L'Hishtadlus Sumutarus V'Im Lo
Im Emunas B'Tachas Na'eh L'Hishtadlus.
We're saying some of Yocodem.
There are boundaries
when it comes to the types of actions
that are permitted to do.
And sometimes a person is B'Tachon.
Um
a person is B'Tachon says you should not
do a particular action.
And this means should not be used.
K'Sulam Amar B'Medrash Rabbah Miketz
Our sages tell us
in the Medrash in Miketz which I believe
is quoted by Rashi Hishtadlus Shelo
Yosif Atzmi L'Vakesh MiSar Mashkim
V'Zichartani
that when Yosef put in too much effort
he went too far. He said
"Remember me." And then he said again,
"Remember me." He kept He He overdid it.
Overdid the Hishtadlus.
Aisa K'Zilzul B'Mitzvas B'Tachon.
So, it was
when Yosef did that, so he made a
mistake.
And he minimized He He
I would say disrespected, obviously on
his level
the idea of B'Tachon.
Rami Rashi Agav Ersha Shamashim
B'Tachli.
As I'll say
praiseworthy is the one who who makes
Hashem's trust. Z'Yosef. This is a
reference to Yosef Atzadik B'Lifnei
Elohim V'Goyim.
And he didn't turn to empty things.
Etc. She Mishulsh Upon Avsar Mashkim
Shvas L'Shlosha Shanim.
He was about B'Tachon.
And he shouldn't have overdone
his Hishtadlus by asking the Sar Mashkim
again to remember him.
V'Tzulam Yosef Yada Shelo Yosif
L'Toldosam.
come here and show him he realized that
his salvation was not dependent upon his
his efforts. Everything is from Hashem.
So he knows that it's completely
dependent on Hashem but he also knows
that he has an obligation to do
some kind of effort to put in some kind
of effort.
So that's why he asked him in the first
place.
But since
when it comes to somebody like this
it's not really their type of it's not
this type of guy.
It's not his way to be nice to a
prisoner in jail and do Yosef a favor
and try to get him out of jail.
So
he shouldn't
If a person feels me you watch he feels
hopeless. So then it makes sense for him
to ask this type of guy help me out save
me get me out of here.
You're you're desperate.
But about
a person who's in desperation and
doesn't believe that Hashem is going to
help him he's going to take a certain
tack he's going to take certain actions
that a person who's not desperate a
person who trusts believes in Hashem
believes that Hashem can take care of
him
he's not going to go that far.
This is not an action which
is really obligatory.
Yesh bem the mice is that can be a vocal
we talking.
When Yosef asked for help from this guy
who
very little chance that this guy's going
to help him.
So, or maybe in the way that he asked
him.
So, it's throwing dust so to speak on
the idea of
it means that you feel desperate.
And so if it's not
if it's not an obligation
then it's forbidden.
And I think this is what this was all a
quote
from the Hazon Ish. Very interesting.
Okay, so Hazon Ish classically we we
we discussed it the sheet a few weeks
ago
that he generally holds that one should
put in efforts
but you can't put in desperate efforts.
Desperate efforts show you don't believe
that Hashem's in charge.
So, we got to watch out for that. Okay?
So, that's the first sheet.
Now, we're going to start and make some
headway maybe into the second sheet
which is minimizing the dollars. mute
the dollars. This one goes on for a
while.
Maybe discussing this for
few weeks.
The second opinion which most of the
great ones of Israel
believe in and and encourage
it holds that a person should not just
sit back and wait for a miracle.
Because we have the decree in the world
that Hashem said to Adam because of his
sin
you have to put in efforts.
By the sweat of your by the sweat of
your face you're going to eat bread.
That
without that decree we wouldn't have had
to do any put in any efforts. I came in
chezal, rak zero klolo.
Tzarchum ayin l'isabel min asur avshur.
But since it's a decree and it's a
curse,
so we want to minimize it as much as
possible.
Miyut acher miyut bishtadlus.
The language he quotes here from the
Michtav M'Eliyahu is
a small fraction of a fraction
of efforts.
Which means to say,
if I think I'm going to need a
particular amount of effort,
half it.
And half it further, right?
Ach came in chezal, rak zero klolo.
Okay, we read that already. Ach gezeira
zo nemar in regards to this decree it
says,
v'al nembo ad v'al haklal
min ishur kol ishur ishur b'vechi nosay.
The Rambam says in Shmoneh Prakim,
we have here a general principle and
each person has to
figure out where they stand
in their own free choice. K'lamar,
sh'gezeira zo nigzara al mena anoshim
b'darka.
This is a general decree that was placed
upon mankind.
Al kol ishur ishur sh'b'chira l'chamech
gezeira zo b'midei yado.
Everyone has the ability, each
individual,
to get to get out of the decree
at a certain level. V'ein l'hadoir asur
she'yachol l'atzmo v'lo l'eimar k'van
nigzar al gezeira.
So you can't It's very interesting. So
you can't just say, "Okay, there's a
decree and therefore I have to do
maximum hishtadlus."
That's not You can't just get out of it
that way.
So So the Rambam and the Michtav
M'Eliyahu
are saying not like the Rabbeinu Bachya
and not like the Rabbeinu Bachya that
you have to do as much as possible
except for desperation.
They're saying uh
don't make a mistake and think that you
have to do every single hishtadlus. If
If you shita zo,
v'im ein hishtadlus m'aral chais b'dacha
m'Hashem.
Even just doing a lot of his dollars,
I'll put in a lot of efforts.
Even a standard amount of effort that it
seems that's necessary.
That signifies that you don't believe
that Hashem's in charge.
Like it says in the summer coming by the
precious.
They said a story about a particular
individual tzaddik
that at first he went to a far-off land
to seek his livelihood.
And he found
a particular idolater in that city that
he had gone to. I perish.
He says to him
you guys, you serve these idols.
You have the ultimate foolishness, the
ultimate blindness by serving them.
I'm going to let him go, she
the the idolater says to to this
tzaddik
He says, what do you who who do you
serve?
He says, I serve the creator.
The great God. The one. The sustainer.
There's no one like him.
So I'm going to let him go, she so the
idolater says to him I don't know what
to say to Mr. Recha.
Your actions contradict your words.
I'm going to perish. What I have said,
what do you mean?
I'm going to let him go, she
So this idolater says
If you really believe it that he's your
sustainer
he's your provider, he's the the one
the only one
key us
He would have provided for you where you
live.
Can I share finances how come just like
he can provide for you here?
You won't have had to go to the efforts
to come to this faraway land.
So the
the tsadik had to eat his own words.
It sounds like he became a parsha as a
result of this conversation. So he goes
back to the city. He accepted upon
himself precious which means the
separate himself from the world.
And he never traveled again. Okay, so
that's another introduction to Shari
talking in the house of office.
Which means to say person has real faith
in Hashem.
Is that the other
is not to put in a lot of efforts.
Cuz even if a person
puts in efforts with all of his power
and
he uses all of his wisdom.
He's involved with all of his abilities
and with all of his strength
in the needs of his livelihood.
You won't have not one penny more
than Hashem has set from that he's
supposed to have.
Then Hashem has decreed that he that he
make this year or this week.
Okay, so
we're just beginning to talk about the
middle sheetah which he says is the
standard sheetah. Which is we don't put
in maximum
we put in minimum
if we put in this.
And as we talked about in the past,
the Chofetz Chaim zt"l which is the
shita is for the ba'alei batim myura'im.
Right? For the For those who are true
bnei Torah, the bnei Torah who are who
are working, who are involved in the
business world, but still we have an
obligation of bitachon of trusting in
Hashem, not doing every single thing
possible to succeed,
but minimizing our hishtadlus,
making sure that we're trusting truly in
Hashem,
showing through our actions
that we trust in Hashem.
Thank you so much for listening. We'll
see you again next time.