Are you allowed to spend as much as you want on Shabbos?

Okay, good evening everyone. Good evening to everyone in Torah anytime. Tonight's sheer is in the merit of my mother, Frieda bas Yitzchak Aryeh haLevi. Today's Sugya is the Sugya of Lavu alai v'ani porea. The Aibershter says, "Borrow on my cheshbon and I shall pay your chov." The shaila is like this. Opening page, it looks like this. Adam ham'unyan l'hachin tavshilin rabim l'Shabbos. A person would like to have an elaborate Shabbos. Ach ein lo dai kesef bishvil zeh. He doesn't have enough money. Hayeim mutar lo lilvos m'chavero kesef bishvil l'atzos Shabbos? Are you allowed to borrow from your friend for a tzorech Shabbos al smach the fact that the Aibershter says Lavu alai v'ani porea. Al af even though, and this is important, she'yodeia he at this point knows shelo yihyeh lo me'eichan lifroa es chovo. At this moment, he does not have a venue to pay back this chov. He knows he's going to borrow, he's using for Shabbos chov this, but how will he pay it back if you ask him, "Do you have a plan?" No. But it says you're supposed to extend yourself for Shabbos. What is the practical halacha in this din? Hakira. Yeish l'ayan im avtoch hazusha Lavu alai v'ani porea matir l'adam lilvos m'chavero bishvil l'atzos Shabbos af she'eino yodeia me'eichan yifroa es chovo. Does the the halakha that the it says we learn in the Gemara as we're soon about to see borrow on my cheshbon, says the Aibershter, allow you to act in a way that you don't have an eitzah. How much bitachon can you have in this? You have to have the opportunity to pay back. Like maybe you have something in your house of value, so in case you can't pay back the chov, like a mashkin, so you can sell that. This is the chakiira for this evening. Let's start on page one. It looks like this. There are two Gemaras. The Gemaras seem on surface to be contradictory, and Tosfos already asked the question. Tonight's shiur involves the way the Rishonim interpret Tosfos' answer. The Tosfos is in Beitzah daf tzadi vov amud beis. It's based on the Gemara where the Gemara says Amar Rabbi Yochanan mishum Rabbi Elazar ben Rabbi Shimon, "Amar lahem Hakadosh Baruch Hu l'Yisrael, 'Bnei, lavu alai borrow money on my cheshbon, vekadshei kidushas hayom, and sanctify the day, veha'aminu bi, and trust me, believe in me, vani poreia lahem.' Vani poreia, excuse me, and I will pay up." "Trust me," says the Aibershter, "lavu alai, on my cheshbon." The problem is there's a Gemara and you're looking at it on the next page, two, Pesachim kuf yud beis amud alef, on the Mishnah that talks about a feel who only even an only who takes from the time who which is the food pantry must take money from sedaka in order to be my kind of our back Isis. The Mishnah over there in the beginning of our back so I can say that feel only should be Israel has to borrow and has to know take from sedaka. The Gomorrah says we'll begin with a feel of men at time who push sheet oh says the Gomorrah push sheet oh which means that if a person has this here of course you should take from sedaka. What's the Loy needs to have a Ella feel of a key bow the armor I say Shabbat oh you the out it's Eric library eyes right back Eva's oak. I say Shabbat oh you. Let your Shabbat stable look like it looks during the weekday. Whatever you serve during the weekday if you're limited funds you might just have tuna fish. If that's all you can afford then that's what you should have on Shabbat as well. I say Shabbat oh you about it's direct library eyes. So therefore since Rebbe Akiva says you're not supposed to take from sedaka even for Shabbat I would have a have a minute that our back Isis I shouldn't use our back Isis. In other words the Gomorrah is explaining the of our back Isis is in accordance to the opinion of Rebbe Akiva. Hulk Amish home so many so my dad but since the idea of dialect crisis is per sum Nisa, it's lay last say there. Here in a sense it's even more exalted and there's more of a than Shabbos Kodesh. Says the Gemara Even though Rebbe Akiva said you should keep your Shabbos as humble and simple as the weekday Something different like covered Shabbos you should do. A piece of fried fish, maybe that you should go ahead and do. That's something. You should be with Azus. It means you should be have what's the word? That to be not diligent. What's that? >> Lazy. >> Brazen. Brazen. Thank you. Says Rashi, what's Az? Do mitzvahs more than you can do. The will soon see compare these two Rebbe Akiva who says that and then the Gemara says but something you have to do and the Gemara then links that to you that you have to be brazen in your mitzvahs. Seems to be the Gemara didn't randomly bring this in but explain that in as difficult as it might be the way Rashi explains Push yourself to do more than you can. Twice with here going back to page one. A small twice with We have my rubber a really a clear contradiction. On the one hand the base is saying love you alive and Raya. Borrow and I'll pay back. On the other hand you have to go talking that's saying no, you're not supposed to get in you know they can talk so I was supposed to reconcile this. Twice with ask the question. How do I know my I say Shabbat it's a breeze. Twice with says I just said love said love you alive. Here it says make your Shabbat a weekday don't borrow don't extend yourself. Honey milk and Raya. That was when he cannot pay back. The words of twice with here have multiple gears always we're going to and we'll see right now. The Marshall and the villain are going argue on what the correct gears and twice with is. Flip the play page please to the Marshall who is the Marshall also wrote the safer Yasha Raya. And one of the earlier maybe even the status almost of like a recent in the earlier years of the aquarium in the beginning of the era of the aquarium and right where you see that gray area where it says Raya that's a minute base he brings twice with the honey milk and Raya. L M K sadaka I will hold my wish my mash nice could they love Raya the animal moist. >> Let me explain to you what I just read. Both cases are talking about a person who doesn't have money. It's coming Shabbos. It's Thursday. He doesn't have cash. One Gemara says borrow. One Gemara says don't even take from tzedakah. What's going on? Says the Maharsha. If you have a way of repaying this debt, how? Well, I have a mashkin in my house. I might have to, you know, maybe I'll have to sell my laptop. A laptop could be worth a couple hundred bucks. Maybe I have to give something else away. All right, not give it away, but sell it, barter it, turn it into cash. According to the Maharsha, I say Shabbos means nothing in my house. I'm not selling my candlesticks. I'm not asking my wife to ask for some sell her diamond ring. I don't want to do that even though it's so important to have covered Shabbos, I don't want to go out and put her in that situation. So, in that case, you have no way to pay back your choyev. I say Shabbos. You don't have to go to tzedakah. I say Shabbos. You certainly shouldn't borrow. As I says the Maharsha. So, when does it say borrow? Borrow and have you have a way of paying it back. You don't have cash now, but says the I'll pay back. You know why? Because you're being responsible. That's the shita Maharsha. The Vilna Gaon changed the gears in Taisys. I'll show you the Gaon in two places. First of all, go back to page number one. The guy in is it's not great area, but I'll show it to you over here how goyis hagrow. The grow resolves this issue from a say shabbos versus love alive zol the gives this kisha ain loy mimi little voice. I have nishfin ein borgin. If I don't have who to borrow from, then make your shabbos weekday. But if you have who to borrow from, he does not learn like the Marsha that you have to have a venue to pay back. He holds as long as you can borrow from somebody, it means that as the the Vilna Gaon is saying is that you're really allowed to rely on the Aibishter. Even though you don't have a mashkin, these are very very two different approaches. As we'll soon see, kisoni, they're momish two ends of the spectrum. >> If you sell as you would in the love of any period, what do you mean selling? >> As long as you have, very good question. What do you mean the question is, if you have a mashkin, you don't want to use your mashkin. You don't want to use it. So the Aibishter says, I will help you, you won't use your mashkin. But at least you're being responsible. The response and thank you for asking the question. What's the pshat love alive any peraya? If you have a mashkin, it says the mashkin is the last source. If I don't have any choice, I'm going to have to sell my mashkin. I don't want to. Says the Aibishter, don't worry, I'll take care of it. I need peraya. But to tell you that you can therefore jeopardize Yanam's money and you don't have a mashkin, says the Gaon, you can says the Marsha, you cannot do that. The Gaon says yes, you can. We'll see it even clearer coming up. Take a look, please, my buddies, on page number four. The Excuse me, page number three. I'll show you the going No, page number four. Yes, number four, the Taryag kingdom. First, we'll start with Hilchos Shabbos Siman Reish Mem Beis. "Afilu mi she tzarich l'acheirim, even if a person needs other persons, the inyan of l'hizaher b'kavod Shabbos, im yeish lo atzmi mi she lo, if he has a little bit tzarich l'hizaher atzmi l'chabed es ha Shabbos." He has to He has to be m'hizaher atzmi. What does that mean? Says the Taryag kingdom over here, he continues the loshon, "D'lo amra shesh Shabbos k'chulin ela misha sh'hu k'chulin b'yoser, she'ein lo ela mashin noisim lo min ha tzedaka." If all he has is just tzedaka money, that's all he's living on, he shouldn't do anything extra for Shabbos. Did you hear that? "Avo kasha ein lo v'rotza lilvos, im yei v'rotza l'ilvos, al zeh lo amru Rebbi Akiva Yosi Shabbos k'chulin ela amru, 'Amru Kodosh Boruch Hu, 'Lavu alai v'ani poreia.' Avo im evshar lo tzarich im evshar tzarich l'chabed Shabbos k'fi ha kavod, mikol makom lo yeilve ela im kein yeish lo l'froya." Don't borrow unless you have a way to pay it back. Borrowing without a plan and just saying, "The Eibeshter will take care of it," according to the Marsha'al and the Taryag kingdom, is not an option. If you do borrow, and you means you have a plan, this and you you are m'chabed the Shabbos, the Zeucha le his a share. You will be Zeucha to become wealthy. The schools to have a share us is covered Shabbos. Therefore, coding she is as as a prerequisite. You met if you're Shabbos as we will see, you will bring out Shabbos then you'll be Zeucha to the will be with a share us. Please turn to the next page. The beer I grow that I mentioned before and it's right over here in the middle. This is the beer I grow here on the show off. He says when we said When it says I say Shabbos you don't have who to borrow from. The way the other people interpreted wrote the us He doesn't have who to borrow from. When he doesn't have who to borrow this is where the guy in as you saw in the beer I grow it's the same guy in but this is where he wrote in the other one was a little bit of a cut cut and paste I grow. But this is the original guy in where the guy in writes that ain't the lotion of is not accurate. The lotion of should say according to him that you're allowed to borrow as long as you have who to borrow from. The growing said twice was said you have to have a plan to pay back. The occurs you can have a source to borrow, borrow and I'll make sure that it gets paid back says the Aibershter. So, when did it say say Shabbat Kodesh? I don't have where to borrow from. I don't have where to borrow from, then don't take from tzedakah. That you shouldn't do. Even there look how Macbid the Gemara was and the Vilna Gaon was and not taking I'd rather make your Shabbos Kodesh rather not to take from tzedakah. This Mahaloch, the Sfas Emes, has a big kasha on the Gaon. The Sfas Emes it's on page number five. It's open right there. Just let your eyes do the walking. Love alive any perry, it's going on the Gemara Beitzah. So, we have Rabbeinu two girsos, the Maharshal and the Tairus Zahav, they have their Mahaloch, you have the Vilna Gaon with his Tairus Kodesh, excuse me, and you have the Vilna Gaon. Says the Sfas Emes, I think the girsos like the Maharshal. I don't understand the Vilna Gaon. Why? Let's see it inside. I am the Tais Swiss Shulchan Shavuos, what happened to I say Shabbat Kodesh? Here it says love alive. And then he has the girsa. The Aish Maggid the Aish Maggid love alive, he doesn't say it's the Vilna Gaon because he's about to ask a kasha. So, he respectfully says Aish Maggid. The Aish Maggid love alive, I cannot accept it says the Sfas Emes. Why? If you have somebody to go borrow tzedakah from, so why don't you just borrow from them? If you can get tzedakah, so don't take tzedakah ask as a loan. How could the Gaon say that the only time it's I say Shabbat Kodesh when you don't have where to borrow from. He's saying you don't have where to borrow from, then don't take tzedakah. On the contrary, so go get from the place you're going to get tzedakah says the Sfas Emes, so to money from them. Let's see it in sight. Homer Aish If there are people are willing to give you sadaka, so why should you make sadaka if I stainish? Says this fast I'm how to understand this shot. The fro ya twice with says that that commercial talking about when you have no maser. By God the mitzvah to do sadaka I have to do it in the name of fro ya. Even though the I'm going to pay you back. You can't borrow Yenum's money. You can borrow and you have a maser. So you're reluctant to borrow because you don't want to pay with your maser. I'm telling you says the borrow don't worry about it. Put yourself in that uncomfortable situation of borrowing. I know how reluctant you are because you don't want to sell your laptop. You don't want to go and give away an item that's valuable to you. And that I'm telling you push yourself. But at least you have respond you're being responsible. But I'm borrowing money with no way to pay back. You're only allowed to borrow if you worst case scenario sell something. Then it's permissible. Steve you want to ask something? >> I'm not sure what the question is in my show too. Like Why is if if you don't have a maser but say make it like whole? Why we say then you can also show that you are the to borrow. >> But you don't have a way to pay back. You can't borrow without having way to pay back. >> Well, the person can borrow because he but he has money to pay back. That's can't borrow because there's no money. >> That That was the That was the Vilna Gaon's Mahalak. Right. The Vilna Gaon, let's be clear, kind of right. So, the Vilna Gaon said the only time you shouldn't be borrowing is if you have nobody to borrow from. As long as you can have someone to borrow from, b'vakasha, borrow. What's going to be the cheshbon? That That's where the bitachon comes in. According to the Maharshal, lo nachon. According to the Maharshal, if you don't know how you're going to pay back, it's not responsible. And now we even have the Sfas Emes. Gerrer Chassidim who follow the Sfas Emes, arguing the Rebbe from Gur, right? The Sfas Emes says you're not allowed to do it. So, in today's day and age where you baruch Hashem have time cheshbonos, you could do it in such a and people give dafka for that, freigs get, l'chatchila, there's a way to do it. Yet, it would seem that Rebbe Akiva held that even that you should be independent and you shouldn't do it. We're not done yet. We still have more to learn. Let's go ahead to What did the Mishna Berurah say? What was the Chofetz Chaim's opinion? Please turn to page 13 seven on top, 13 on the bottom. Shteit in Shaar HaTzion. He's going on I'm going to show you where to look over here on top. You see in the Mishna Berurah over here, it's coming from the previous page. Without a mashkin, he can't go out and borrow. >> The Hafetz Chaim begins a quote in in the Mishna Berurah, he says The Chaim Kodesh of a Bach, read it inside with me. The Hafetz The The Hafetz Chaim quotes and tells us that not only did the Gaon, but also the Bach held that you're supposed to have bitachon in the Aibershter and you're supposed to borrow even though you don't know how you're going to pay back. Like the Maharsha, Adam can only have a way to pay back. And then the Hafetz Chaim writes the following cryptic words. In English that means it all depends on the situation. What in the world does the Hafetz Chaim mean Hakol Lefi Ha'Inyan? This is a discussion of many later updated now Achronim. I want to share with you a couple of opinions. With Mishkenos Yaakov and Reb Shmuel Kamenetsky. Take a look on page number eight, please, Rabbi side. The beginning of this column, he quotes all of what we learned so far this evening. The Tosefos, the Gemara, the Maharsha, the Vilna Gaon. And the Mishna Berurah writes up to the Maharsha about going then he quotes what just saw. Venira, da call the fear Indian at Behina. I've show plucked the says the reminiscing correlates. I've she plucked the keep so neat. It's mamesh a very It's a very um extreme Shakoyakh. Extreme like this. A motor levers of Shabbos in the mother fire. Can I say masculine? If make you out to make niche. Am I allowed to borrow or not? It's a big like this. Because mashram is the lover the like leaky share ain't cool I'm like leaky share ain't lay look beside there Guzman. No one says that you can be extravagant. They agree that you cannot be extravagant. Obey the the Marshall. The total masculine. Whether it's a Marshall with the as a masculine. The high note the ain't lawyer. Little voice could they lie so they Shabbos could suit the show me the Shabbos. Even with a masculine, no great big Saudis. You don't want you shouldn't be spending way above what you can when you're borrowing and you have a masculine limited. It should be limited. And ain't that the female minor be a whole day. If you can't If you can do it be like a shot. Obey the the total months of me lovers. Make all my come never you could be a rabid. How could I be a minor show Adam the fear a whole day? I've added I've added the way the rabid writes it has to be within your buying power. What a person can afford. The lawyer you will be every a whole day. You should never They both agree you shouldn't be borrowing more than your possibility. Ooh me either. Come with the does a Marshall. Motor lawyer you will be a voice. >> I think that if you're borrowing a little bit of money, says of Nissan Karelitz, even if you don't have a mashkin on it, the marshal will be okay with it. So, he's learning how you mean it means to say depending on your own where you your own financial status. If you're not going to put yourself into a big hive, then you should do it, even though you don't have a mashkin. That was the sake of Nissan Karelitz. Reb Shmuel Kamenetsky, next page, so the design suit quotes this mission of Bura. Here it is. O my relation of mashkin is little voice, and he writes the lotion of he quotes them all, and he says the near that call of your Indian outcome. Going in five or six lines down. What does that mean? How call of your Indian? The cover no soy totally the meters bit coinoy. How much bit coin a person really has. The full bit coin a door. The oil mayor my river Ravi Schlita. She be by the eye call totally the feeling meters bit coin a shoulder. A person there are people who by Hashem are strong in their bit coin, and when they put themselves into an unknown situation, they really can rely on the Abishter. Ooh mister Avra. She it's lay new show lay no in husband. You have to live with a a a practical calculation. Shulchan Stam to borrow without a Shulchan is certainly not permissible. Have an idea how you're going to pay back the money. You know you're getting a paycheck in. You know you're getting a distribution. You know that somebody maybe promised you that they're going to be giving something, etc. says believe Shulchan. It's not kind of Shulchan to just down the belief Shulchan. So Reb Shmuel's approach is that the Machlokes between the Marsha and and the going and the Shulchan of the going that said you can borrow, you have to be a honest Bal Bitachon and be able to appreciate the Shabbos and still not see feel, which means not that not too much. Zog the Halacha Berurah. I believe that's I believe that's Reb Moshe Sternbuch. In Ein Olam Mishlei, page number Yud Dalet 10. In Ein Olam Mishlei 17 on the bottom. Tzorech Tzorech Suda Shabbos. Tzorech Lilvose Machan. You have to borrow. The Ein Like K'dei Lifroa Bo. And he can't pay back. Im Yesh Lo Mashkin Lo Seish Lo Malveh V'Lo. If you can give a Mashkin. It sounds like you actually have to give him the Mashkin. Tzorech Lilvose L'Tzorech Suda Shabbos. You have to borrow. And this is like you asked me. Yeah, and the Aibershter says borrow, I'll pay it back. V'Afilu Im Ein Lo Mashkin, Im Yodea B'Vadai She Yachol L'Hachzir V'Lo. If he knows he can pay it back, Tzorech Lilvose L'Tzorech Shabbos. You have to. Aval Im Ein Lo Yodea Im Yachol Lifroa V'Lo. But if he doesn't know if he can pay back. Lo yival al Torah shuda shabbos. The guy said if you don't know how you're going to pay it back, don't do it. Take a look at the bottom over here in in the footnote. And where he quotes four lines from the bottom. The sign he's quoting the Shira Hakol Inyan. He also weighs in on the Shira that we just mentioned the guy from the What does it mean Hakol Inyan? The guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said If you have a guy said You have to borrow. And that the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said If you have I know it's going to make you uncomfortable, but that's exactly what the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy The guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said The guy said the guy said the guy said The guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said The whole story over here is to be able to be the guy said the guy said the guy said the guy said I want to finish off over here Derek said I think this is Kanievsky the omits from way back the Omar Rav Schlita love alive and he pray Raya. Honey Milly Shikavanasoi Leshem Kvoid Shabbos Dafka. Veloy Shikavanasoi Leshem Atzmoi. The Chiddush of being able to borrow and being able to rely on the Aibishter is because a person emes does it like Kovid Shabbos Koidesh. It's not because of his own social status, it's not because of anything else rather than his own desire and ratzon to give Kovid to Shabbos. A person who's mechabed the Shabbos is giving Kovid to the Aibishter. Do you know why it's called Lovu Alai? Lovu Alai means to say the Aibishter says I feel honored with the fact that you've gone out of your way to make it make yourself to to to make yourself uncomfortable. For what reason? For yourself like Kovid Shabbos. If you're making yourself uncomfortable so you want to be mechabed Shabbos says the Aibishter I will take care of you. I will go out and pay you back. It's night that it's a Kovid Shabbos of a person. I don't have the like like in the next page over here where Steiman is if a person will not fressen. Fressen you know what means fressen? I don't know if there's a word in English for it. He wants to just right just the fress. Pound. Right just that's not Kovid Shabbos. If that's not Kovid Shabbos there's no guarantee. I bother the amount of the token that a person has in the Aibishter, a person knows Aibishter for dear. I'm doing it for you. When a person does it for the Aibishter, the Aibishter promises love will allow you to have any prayer. So all these are as I shall be strong to be my hobby to Shabbos so you should be to the problem that we saw that there is kind of to assure us so we should be able to my hobby to Shabbos for ourselves and for others. >> And then we have the