An Honest Conversation Between Avraham Fried & Benny Friedman BREAKDOWN!!!

all right I think we are live oh we're live all right um I'm just testing this out um this little stream that we're doing today um so basically I was thinking of maybe doing like a once a week thing where um I break down on stream with everyone watching with me um something uh that has to do with music like interiew or a concert or or anything so what I'm thinking is is that we're going to do today uh one of the meaningful people interviews with Alvin Freda and Benny Freeman um I think um as I think it's a nice thing to break down as a uh conversation for what it means to be a Jewish singer in modern day times as opposed to like uh how it was in like especially when you have the generational with Al Freed's um career and Benny Freeman's career and their their similarities their differences so uh so I think we're just going to start with this in general I also like to do some concerts once in a while or do other things so um let's set up this thing again this is the first time I've doing this so figuring things out in mem when we do this in the future it will be much smoother so let's set up the video here perfect Al righty here we go share audio share all right so let me know in the comments if um if for some reason the audio you don't hear it or something and then I could reset it all right so let's go into this conversation with freed and any [Music] Freeman how are you what's the good word only good things for the new year it should be a year of keep up your good work someone told me the other day someone in jail heard the he never breaks and and he and he broke free gave him to leave the prison well at least they can't blame it on me because I said no song it's unbelievable not to be underestimated okay so what are we doing meaningful people podcast yes so we're here to to tooo a little bit what what's this this is called conversation starters conversation starters so yeah so apparently they do conversation starters where they have like these cards where they start conversations like with questions I honestly think it would have been M dick if they would have recorded this with them in the studio just talking and shmooing and then uh just edit it if they wanted to sh it down which I don't think is a good idea when you have these two leg of Jewish music but um but yeah I think that would have been a art but this is fine too so let's continue here okay conversation igniters I guess there a question under someplace meaningful people podcast okay so you're interviewing me yeah oh cool I don't see a question that's I like how he's kind of in or out of it question what is something you wish people knew about you that they don't already already know this is an interesting one if I wanted them to know they would know that's it what I wanted to know about me [Music] um huh that I'm shy I'm a basically shy person getting up there on stage is just against my nature but show's got to go on the sh that's the question um I think also there was an interview where um uh they uh a fre was basically saying that like um I always get nervous on stage and the day where i'm not nervous that means I'm done basically it's normal to be nervous and and it also proves to you that you're doing something right when you are so I I thought of that when when he said this if you go in a Madison Square Garden 20,000 people and sing so what's you're shy the trick is to show them that you don't look shy that you're comfortable being public like that which takes years of experience um I guess you're born shy I don't know it's not something you work on you work on being shy someone says you know you're very humble yeah I work I work on being humble I mean you know but um guess something you're born with okay but I have a question for you yes drum roll what's something you wish people knew about you that they don't already know good question the same question that I'm very humble you very humble nobody knows this about me I knew that I knew that how do you know because you're part of the family okay this itself is humbling yes I don't really quite like the light that's behind them I don't know just as I'm not the best person for production in general but like yeah it's very humbly I ask you a question first now meaningful people podcast B if you could change one thing in the world what would it be and why o one thing I have to choose one thing this is a very deep question so early in the morning yeah if I could change one thing in the world early in the morning or uh middle of the night or it actually is morning huh you look at that in the world what would it be that's not enough and why take your time we got time aha aha so the obvious answer would be to switch out goas for Gula right so you're thinking I'm globally glob everyone's answer um and why and why because that the answer to all the problems once you take care of that you've taken care of everything but the question is maybe we want a more interesting answer than that even though that is the answer what do you say one thing in the world one thing well I guess if we're thinking globally we agree that uh the world is in a pretty not great situation especially Cloud Isel being in gas and um we DAV and we benching and every BR we say we talk about mashia and we talk about um over the live stream I'm going to once in a while pause for my comments but also for comments out there so mle young says Can't Stand by a Freeman or a RL them they both have the same Freeman cringiness I quite like it I I don't know what to say I I get what some people say but I think that's the charm that they're just being offened just being themselves they're not trying to be something else they're not trying to be an image and I I think I think we need more of that in the in the music industry um I think we need more of their um I I think we need more authenticity and just more talk more conversations in general when it comes to um just just authentically what they are authentically what they speak like be like MBD play it real that's true that's true the world becoming a holy place and a and a dwelling for the ab and we should see him face to face um so that's what that's what we live for and pray for because it it could be better way things are now things could definitely be better um obviously okay I guess that covers that question but you're right because if you say I want sickness to go away people should be healthier people should be good with par I guess that's M right what song has had the most significant impact on your life and how o whoa one of my songs or any other people's songs it doesn't say could be any song uh we're g to go back to this I'm just going to try something interesting because I I see that it's kind of freezing here I'm G to try sharing my whole screen not the tab see if that makes a difference oh it's still freezing okay so I'm just going to put back to the other way the other way looks more professional ah um as I'm putting this up I'm just going to answer some questions in comments how's that those who don't know I'm in LC for my second year LC is very good um all right let's continue here could be any song you want to answer that question first sure go for it h what song has had the most significant impact on my life right so if it's on my song so then the question is if it has had most significant impact on my on my business or what my career which would probably be the first song that you know filled up the gas tank for the long drive I don't think it says hit song I think it says a song that significant impact your life on okay General yeah a good question I think also the question probably means what song made you feel something really special yes was a big hit but do give you any you know um hero Chua or or make you closer to but uh okay so I'll tell you like this jtic F certainly changed your your uh my career your your humbleness um definitely you're H this definitely changed the the industry I think at that time it wasn't it was it was unheard of for to have such a genre and such a um like an a full Israeli song sng by a singers I mean you would argue that Alin freed with the Hebrew Gems or or the songs that he sing like Katan and stuff I don't think it was as impactful to the to to people in general I don't think the industry but people in general Bluetooth connected that's what I think made you little made you more humble yeah yeah yeah it very much improved my two M okay good for sure which song which song made you cry I would ask you oh can I can I interpret the question a little B oh I do like that interpretation what makes you cry cuz I think but the thing is it's it's a type of impact I would I would disagree that the fact that like impact means you cry impact is a general impact whether you're all of a sudden start jumping when it's a fast song or start crying when it's a when it's a a sad song um but yeah it's um I do I am interested though even more because of a Freed's uh redirection of of the question cry when you in the studio you ever cry when you when you recording yeah which song was that oh my gosh wasn't wasn't it was I did a song um we did a we changed the words for how are you my dear Nikolai and we did it for um for the uh refugees leaving Ukraine and I don't know what happened in the studio in the studio that song got me any particular lines that that you remember I mean the chorus is your cry is piercing The Souls of you know but uh that doesn't happen too often when you cry in the studio no amongst four walls and suddenly you're crying what what what happened what happened was when I I heard the demo and I cried and then I said and then I I uh the demo yeah I mean it was it was in the thick it was right at the beginning and you saw videos of people running out of of Ukraine trying to get on a train it was did it's also funny how like like the other day we were talking about I was talking about with some friends of mine like what are the type of songs that kids would sing that that the older generation would also appreciate like in a kumzits and one of the things called was dear Amy Str it's interesting how the kids I I do feel like dear Nikolai the original song the the the child singer in that song in the Jeff choir say saying it so beautifully it's unbelievable how much it's underestimated Jeet when it comes to a lot of J music but specifically dear Nikolai I would say it's one of the most beautiful soloist songs from a choir or children in Jewish music for sure and I think the digitized versions that we have on Spotify or YouTube ises it a little Injustice um so it's kind of hard to hear hard to listen but if you fig if you forget all that out it's is just amazing like it was just uh I cried once hearing a demo just reminded me I was on a tww remember that Earline a hotel before your times um I only know from first to Russia would you look at that and uh was kind of lonely leaving my little you know kids at home and they were very young at the time my family and I'm listening on a cassette recorder a little cassette player toot demo of alatan wow that made me made me very homesick that's when I cried on listening to only demo I ever cried I'm sick I knew it I knew he cried but okay what was the question maybe let's see did you ever cry listening to somebody else's song kandas Maybe really yeah good heart to from listening to it or from singing listening listening who was the I don't remember me personally I love I'm not usually into kazanas that much but the one time I would listen to kazanis is like if it's like 1 o'clock in the morning and it's been a long day and I just need like a like a little resting like outside on a lawn chair that's like the perfect sweet spot for kazanas for me um yeah which song I don't remember but live not not from listening in the caring when the was was giving you know or something you know and uh yeah I I can cry by by live D it's a good from hearing it I'm hearing it yeah like there's some songs that if I hear him sing it I don't cry but if I try to sing it like I'll struggle getting the words out you know what's interesting thing when we sing in the house that's so funny I mean like I guess that kind of could make sense but for me personally I could sometimes I could get into the moment when I'm singing songs but mostly when I hear singers they get to me maybe just just a thought shabas around the table or it makes it tears me up something very very holy about that amazing yeah song uh did I ever cry in a studio of course I personally cried um you could check out the video in the reactions but I reacted to V from M I don't know what came over me I think it was also because it was my first song and I it was already after the time where he passed away and I kind of like had that in mind so when I listen to him maybe that's why but I don't know uh that that song may be CED definitely cried in the studio Yeah couple of times most recently I cried by um you know on the CD amaha sure there's a song there um again family related you know talking talking to my children that made me cry the engineer was crying we were the whole place was crying um and then I once cried at a live answer by well aba which is on on video I I planned that by the way the video is here I'm going to cry yeah um that was a powerful clip I think that is one of the most underrated clips that uh in general in concerts and in general from M freed when he was literally breaking down an ABA that was pretty powerful and then I cried when I once sang ad musai I think after we got the news at the concer that the [Music] reiton passed away whoa um yeah M that's crazy so what song has had the most significant impact on your life again for the biggest hit I would say Tanya clearly is the the winner um little did we know what kind of impact that would have it's like and it was heavy and it's slow and it's gur and it's like what are the chances of all the elements against you no no beat no popular words and no catchy you know Little Hook but I guess people like a message also and the message just shines through [Music] and so T certainly changed my sense of humility I I I think that just the legac I think that just speaks to how legendary um Yi green is um it's just unbelievable how yeah like just a thought like I didn't grow up thinking it was like a gamar piece I thought it was just WR song now I'm thinking about it the it's so unusual to have songs at especially at that time with garas and and a whole a whole story and a whole sugya and just let alone to now it's like you could make Jewish music out of anything but at that time crazy um other people's songs that had an impact on it's so the ult question so many songs someone somebody once asked who's your favorite singer right and the guy said whoever makes me feel good right now that's you know makes me feel special or something right now he's my favorite singer so there's so many songs where over the years you've had moments where you've experienced felt this you felt that due to a certain song so it's very hard to pinpoint a certain song next question meaningful people podcast just in case you forgot number three what does success mean to you and do you feel you have achieved it who thought of these questions gosh what does success mean to you and do you feel you have achieved it should I answer first sure please success means to me if you remember the told me to give before and after Reb imbued me with this not racket science but could be very easily forgotten you have you say thank you know who it comes from so that to me is a no-brainer do I have feel I have achieved it to a point I feel like I still have a lot a lot to achieve do you want to elaborate what do you want to still achieve I feel like people still want today people are thirsty for for stuff just the times have changed and you know back in the day we could sing about you know I think today we need to give more I think we need to give more more why do you think that is life has gotten so much more difficult today than it was 30 years ago no life has gotten better gotten better that's why yeah I like that explanation by the way I have I had so many conversations with people where they're like oh uh nowadays I think it was just more that Jewish music the audience people listening that all just RIS up the bar and people expect um mindblowing songs um and I think I think that's what Jewish music needs to be nowadays has to be impactful it has to be it has to be driven um or else what are you doing the music for I think I think that's what differentiates between Jewish music and G music Jewish music un an unofficial definition would be uh what G uh a message through the heart for for the audience Jewish audience and so because it's gotten better we need more wow yeah but that's for another time that's when we have more time to F [Music] bring what does success mean to you and do you feel you have achieved it I think that that Miss that the nature of success is that you you never achieve it because when you're looking here the mountain seems so high then you reach the top and then you realize that the mountain is much higher then is an achievement m is an achievement right you just want more of it right so so so I guess these little success steps but you but you never achieve it because no matter what you have achieved you realize like you said that there's much much more still to accomplish right so I guess the answer is we have achieved success barash we we have achieved we have achieved yeah we have obviously if they want us to be on the podcast we've achieved hey the answer to the question is we made it to meaningful we've achieved success we can retire but amen we'll still still try to make people happy through music we'll be right back to this special episode but first um so as that is playing I'm just want to give a few shout outs to those who commented or Alive schoy s says hi oil hi back schoy how are you um just I wanted to comment on the achievement thing I think it's very important that uh people nowadays have to think like what does it mean achievement to you and to me I I don't think we should think as achievement as something that is said and done I think achievement is an everlasting journey in life I think that that's also explains like what does it mean like to be a person um I think being person is always evolving never stopping it's not a level I don't think level as an English word is not the best word um I think that's also very important to realize um okay let's see you can get a blue glove concer you have these amazing yum Kipper drips if you won the one.5 billion Lottery yeah what would you do then musically that that wasn't one of the questions no reading between the add living okay this is something I think that's what I want I want like more if if if there was no like the the the the digus of as far as parosa and these things was not was a non-issue what would you doing what would I be doing what would I be doing with my time well you have a gift to sing would you totally throw that away no because I also love singing okay I I also feel like it's it's it's also a pul it's also a that's how you know a guy is genuine in the Jewish music when he said when even if it comes to a point where he's not doing much more uh in in the industry he still still sings still go going out there um I think that that's very important u i I know that how like there's a lot of composers and producers on Jewish music that either they started out singers and they just become uh producers because they still feel like they have to be part of the music a good example of that is a Rottenberg he never did Jewish music as a career like as a parnasa he he he took I believe he took over his father's company in Toronto I think that's the place where he is but he never did it as a thing for for making money he always did it genuinely because it was in him and I I think I I I appreciate that uh it's a big it's a big not just a business so you'll sing but what would be different you sing a little happier a little happier I would stop crying in the studio all the time oh maybe you cry more how do how do I invest a million you know a billion dollars you have more than you know right so it comes with a price but uh it certainly helps helps the you're next am I next question what advice do you give yourself when you're having a hard day huh this reminds me of a joke go ahead somebody once asked schoi Marcus what song do you sing when you're just singing for yourself so goes sing for myself oh no I can't afford that I can't afford myself beautiful that's a good line what was the question what advice do you give yourself when you're having a hard day or when you're having a hard day do you give yourself advice or do you just have a hard day so you remind me of a story that I once asked somebody how you doing and he says to me I never had a bad day in my life he said wow that's amazing he said I've had bad moments in a day but a full bad day I'm breathing I'm eating I'm sleeping I have a family I have moments where it's it's tough but never had a bad day in my life good answer um the advice I give myself when I'm having a bad day is it'll pass just think positive and it'll pass nothing no rocket science there right also I guess depends what that bad is you know I take a little longer I take a little quicker but um things will get better number four I think we're up to right what is your biggest fear how do you cope I'm just gonna leave I need to plug in my computer but um I'll leave the podcast on and I'll get my comments right when I get back boy we're really we really really got here on this program today what's your biggest fear my biggest fear is I'm singing a song and I forget the lyrics that scares me to yeah yeah it's really scary that's but it must have happened they say that was this very very I think it was Barbara strian who never wanted to perform in public because she was afraid of forget words lycs yeah then that's why they invented the telepromter there you go just for her thank God for Barbara strand they Lea schmeltzer told me that he started writing more P songs because he was having a hard time remembering all the words and he puts yeah has words songs are full lyrics I could see that was too much couldn't remember but it's happened to me in the past in the beginning I forgot the words and you like want to just open open you know then I learned I think that happened to me once I was doing a staff play in KY this past year and I improvised most of the words of a song that I learned last minute because I forgot the words which is unfortunate it's like my pet peeve when that happens um when I do uh um what yeah when I do Simas and stuff and I don't know words it's the worst feeling in the world it's like you almost feel like you're letting everyone down and and they have no idea I heard this from said to me you know what if you get the words stop the band laugh about it and say let's start again from the top that works that's good just make make light of it what I do I I've seen some footage of you forgetting the words so when I forget the words I go it's okay I from fre runs in the family R in the family okay my turn that's very funny can you reflect on a time when you took a significant risk what did you learn from that experience we're talking musically bungee jumping going into the business in the first place becoming becoming a sink was a risk back then I was still a in Yesa um R was the only young man singer that was out there besides his father they was were the earlier generation as that that was a big that was a big uh big risk what what what drove you to do that where I sang as a little boy yeah so I had a little running with music I had a little experience with music and but there must have been a hundred other kids who were singing as little boys they never that's true but I was a solo I was one of the solos um I don't know I at the age of whatever age I was hearing the talk about can you know no will be left behind and said maybe maybe I should go back into the music world and try to get the's message out through music say positive beautiful things from you know and uh here we are some 40 years later what was your biggest risk I don't take risks here you go next question I'm not a risk taker if you could be any other if you could be any other profession what would it be and why and why and why always gets you um I really wanted to be a major league baseball player yeah I wanted to be a minor league basketball player he Jackie Mason's joke he talks about the getting to medical school they have to have a high high IQ you know and for some people it's difficult so they've lowered the you know so says if that's the case they should lower the basketball net for for a year so we can dunk a little easier um any other profession what would it be well kind of in a box here you know don't have much uh I was imagined to be a someplace in Dakota I don't know Tim turns out he gave me through through music but is there a story where de was giving out bottles of masim always gave bottles to and did I give you one he did what's that story that's the story so you say it it I went I was and I got my I'm walking on you know it takes a second I see through the corner of my eye something's some movement I look back standing with a bottle of mas smear the little smear enough bottles I took it I never looked at the's face I looked at the's eyes for a second questioning you sure this is for me and I kind of got the answer that it's for you and I continued didn't say a word to me I told my brothers then I said what just happened I got a bottle what what I I was blown away then I said to myself hak and every concer is a hak so probably meant I should bring it to every hak give out a little bit and have a little some that's what I did I travel with a whole year but um that of course to me was the Stamp that get ble thank you that's a great story it's unbelievable that's unbelievable where are we cuz a lot of people say he everyone's a you could you could always convince yourself everyone is a that everyone's a and whatever I'm doing you know what I'm a and everything in my situation everything and for sure get bottles but some get bottles it's a whole uh I I love that story just don't ask me if I still have that ble of mas please don't ask me just to point out I think there's there's some sh get bottles but everyone gets a dollar from the RAB everyone has the interaction with the re so it's also that Milo but yeah that's interesting to think because then it makes you think like then what is a level that would give you a bottle okay you got it I got it we'll be right back to this episode in just a second but I wanted to let you know that on Tuesday September 19 is launching they in class do that enjoy rest of this episode if you can only accomplish one thing in your life what would it be and why doesn't say and why oh one thing one thing to accomplish just want to keep putting out good music and making youen happy and make them feel good about just Compass what I said accomplish doesn't necessarily mean that you get to a level just keep doing it being Jews and yish kite and um Hashem should send me the right material amen that's it I'm not thinking Global I'm thinking on a onetoone basis you know let's help a a feel better and if music can do that let's be the I want to be there I want to be that but then Benny freeden comes along and he has he makes even feel good through his songs and that's why this musical family I think is a very hand picked chosen family by the one above who has this it's very elite very talented family humbling family can't take that for granted here here my turn go where are we oh oh number 10 what Legacy what my my uh yeah my my Captain's voice what leg no that's not going to work what Legacy or impact do you hope to leave behind for future Generations oh W they already did but oh like okay that's the one question which I wouldn't have asked I I mean I would have I would have asked it but worded it differently because they both have such a legacy what type of Legacy I guess you say it's for like what do you want I guess that's question question wow you guys want to chip in on you can jump in on this you guys are very quiet you notice lately huh take your time with this yeah take your time with this one you notice lately that a lot of the uh music that's being recorded today is is uh covers or collection or what do you call it compilation of all these songs that yeah re re redo yeah so I was discussing with somebody about how we have such a masle that in today's today's uh day we can look back on 40 years or 50 years 60 years of Jewish music and we have all these oldies to now say you know what I mean let's go back to those oldies because we grew up with such a treasure Trove of Jewish music from people such as yourself Bluetooth disconnect that we now have as you know I mean our we have paved the way for the younger generation so he who I was speaking to says to me yeah we have that muzzle but what's going to be in in another 20 years we're redoing what we grew up on what's they'll be they'll be R doing yes that's is that what it's going to be is that the generation this is what we're leaving for the generation every generation has their music every generation has their where they're at that reflects their time and their time in the in the in the in the sun you know nothing wrong with that but it's hard hard to think ahead 20 30 years you know um yes what were you saying where were you I interrupt what what what's the Legacy that we want to leave I don't know we need to leave we need to leave uh good music for uh for generations to come I mean I'm working on it you you you you you're doing it take a look Benny you did it too you have such good songs something you have to pray for to pray for good material doesn't doesn't fall down like the M from the heaven you know got to um I don't know how much I prayed but God was very kind to me with Y Greener she I had some good people who who helped me pave that pave that path is that David sings I would rather pray and then sing this so you prayed for the good material and then you sing maybe yeah that's what he meant um good material is is is a good head song is a is a gem God decided I'm going to give you a gem you know it's not it's not the uh not simple you come to any place in the world and you sing a song and people react to it or they know it take it for granted I'm gonna go to Australia they're gonna sing my songs yeah another example by the way shout out to um another example good example is that once set an interview why that he that y when he made y that got famous in Tik Tok it's one of those songs in which um he made it as like one of those filler songs for the album for that album I believe it's Messiah and and that song out of everything which I think is a crime to to Jewish music that that song out of all the other songs of Miami Boy Choir got famous um I think um so I think that's what connects to what Ain Fred and Betty were saying here is that Ain freed actually that uh we can't just take it for granted because everyone at the end at the end of the day everyone has their taste and everyone connects with different things and so you can't just take any song that you put out any that you sing or any project that you put your heart and soul into as for granted it's like hey that's pretty amazing um you know what I'm not thinking of legacies I don't think about that I'm not not working to leave a leave a legacy I'm working for now what I need to do that's what I'm focused on I I pray I'm working on the new CD and I'm praying for some good material I'm almost there but it's taken a little time and uh I'm just humbl that the phone is still ringing still working still um making a a stle impact and I just say let's just keep doing that for as long as God gives me the K foret about legacies just get the job done or continue doing what what you're doing never take it for granted don't let it go to your head and um any more questions we have a f question I'll just I'll yell it out and you guys go answer it would you allow one of your kids to go into the Jewish music industry no how about one of your nephews yep no but they don't listen to me yeah they actually true stories that's a true story I called my uncle right when I was starting right in the beginning yes oh okay just check my fed and I said looking for some advice so he said you want advice don't do it if you decided ready to do it he realized I was [Laughter] kidding thank God he didn't listen to me and and why because it's not easy it's not easy they're very talented when we sing together at the at the table I I love it I'm in heaven love singing with with with the kids um but it's not easy it's it's a it's a life on the run and um I wish for them to be you know doing other meaningful that's uh that's also a thing a show for me as as a person that wants to get into the singing business and to pursue it as actual parnasa um it worries me um but listen you don't you don't get anything done in life if you don't work hard for it so I'm I'm not giving up on that aspect but on the other hand I do know that there is AOS to it there is AOS things to make the world a better place and they're they're doing just that have a lot of you should continue to have a lot ofas and you from yours you from yours what was your my kids are little my kids are little there will be one thing is a part of your legacy that you want your kids to also be seeing think think ahead they haven't uh so far they haven't showed any interest my son told me speaking about how it's difficult my son told me I'm going to invent my little son I'm going to invent a computer that whenever anybody calls you to come to a the computer right away sends them a message that you're not available who that was very tough to hear wow and I mentioned like a few minutes later how old is this kid he when he said it he was 8 years old old wow that's powerful it's rough was he holding without invention he almost finished oh my gosh that's well might well that story with the kid who says T I'll pay you $100 to sit sit with me for a few minutes yeah wow so that goes back to the question if you win the lottery what what do you do how much of this is is is accept when you're not doing it because you need to anyway what do you do with that what your kid said to you what do you what do you do with that it's very very tough man he's trying to keep away the details how to make that computer he's trying to hide the uh wow that's a tough line yeah I think one of the questions one of the questions might have been or could have been can you ever say no to a gig can you ever say no you can can you say no do you have the K right to say no every call that comes in you grab it even though you haven't been home for two weeks I was about to say like like there's a certain point where like MBD and I'm free they said no because of when it comes to certain places and certain opportunities but but he's saying the that that is tough that is tough yeah and you're on the road for like someone told me my kids call me we're always traveling that's that a compliment I don't know but can you ever say no to a gig you have the the the to say you know what I need to I I need to be home for this day or this shabas or that's a difficult question what's the answer I don't know can you say no to a gig my experience has been that I cannot sometimes you think you can and then you go you know what I can't I think I'm with you on that even even after all these years it's hard to say no it's hard to say no the other you say you're talking like I'm right someone Pi up a phone and called me I should say no I'm going against but um I think we should have the to say no sometimes I think that'll be a blessing and we should have also the means to say no oh me am me look you're busy for a month in you're busy for the next month not like you're giving away your last job I care you're busy busy like crazy where you should be saying no to one gig right let me be home for you know but it's it's it's it's uh it's difficult it's I guess it's U but that's a good sign if we're that busy be able to say no to one or two gigs here or there is probably but it's hard to do or to say no to to certain Seasons where everybody's looking for for for shows everybody's that is my that is my question like what have like these guys get like tens and tens of phone calls and and opportunities to do these things especially and like what do they do what do they do and for that same reason you you want to be with your family right for example Riverside experience coming Riv experience my kids will be there nework New York Cy Hall this is the one we don't say no to obviously but all the other ones around Riverside experience by the way it took me some time but I worked on it and I I have worked out that during the three weeks I could say no to any or for any G that I get nine days took me some time but we got them we got it so you see could do yeah yes but the only thing that bothers me is that all other things are doing the same thing it's like so what's what's my accomplishment because everything you do we follow got it guys so dear friends we are inviting you to come hear us sing Noto we're gonna sing October all right that's it for the interview uh let's let's the turn off this this uh thing oh now I'm moving normally no cracking all right so thoughts on in General on this uh on this um on this interview I think it was very nice I think it gives a lot of perspective again as I said before it gives a lot of perspective especially the the to to the industry the music industry and the differences and the generation gaps between Alvin Fred's when he started and beny fre when he started I think it was a lot of perspective and I think it's important that that uh people understand it's not just singers in general what jobs that that that add to the Jewish Community whether it's being Mash people with music or teachers or how much it takes how much effort how much is put into and I think it's amazing that we have these conversations that we need to have more of these conversations okay so here's what I would like to everyone that is still watching yeah I know it's in the middle of the night 1:50 a.m. o sheesh one per okay um for those who W are watching or um are watching it uh later please comment below any other things that you like like to me to put on on the stream my idea for the streams are like interviews with singers um uh full concerts yeah like like when I do clips and stuff I do that for the reactions but if I do like a full concert I want to do that for um I want to I I want to do that for the streams um so okay I think that's it for today have a good night everybody uh Shout out to those who commented and joined in let's see I just going to mention them to dve and to Misha Freeman good friend of mine uh to Mel young good friend of mine uh to schoy Simson a good friend of mine sh is also good friend of mine so listen I'm not get trying to looking for other people to come on and to get views or whatever I'm doing this because I can and because I love it so uh it doesn't matter if there's no one listening I could just talk to myself all day about music if I need to all good all right um have everyone have a good night and uh I hope you enjoyed it and please let me know any notes that you have in the comments below