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my name is Nahum Siegel and it is with
great pleasure that I welcome you to
unite to heal 2022 on behalf of amudim
and charity bids welcome to an
incredible 36 hour presentation we're
kicking things off with this live hour
right now from Brooklyn New York at
flowmotion Studios and we're going to
conclude our program tomorrow evening
from 6 to 9 pm which will end a 36-hour
live stream presentation a presentation
that's going to remind everybody to
support amudim and keep them going with
their annual campaign go to
uniteaheel.com right now and be as
generous as possible in addition the 36
hours features some incredible
conversations some wonderful amazing
presentations that have everything from
Comedy to education to mental health to
game show shows and so many other
wonderful segments it's all happening
right here at unite to heal 2022
unite2heal.com ask your friends and
relatives around the world to tune in
and to enjoy all of this great
programming you know I'll move them in
charity bids has a track record for the
last couple of years they've done this
amazing presentation with all fresh
brand new material and the wonderful
focus on so many different issues both
light and serious issues in the Jewish
community and everybody around the world
is going to be treated to that again
this year we're kicking off this hour
we're going to be speaking to everybody
who of course is the co-founder and
director of amudim we are going to be
speaking with some special guests we're
going to remind everybody why it's so
important to support this great cause
and how a mood them has had such an
impact internationally in our community
and then we're going to get into some of
the amazing segments with the holy of
squares and discussions on technology
and philanthropy and EDU education of
course mental health and comedy and so
many other things with some wonderful
special guests names that you're very
familiar with people have made a great
impact in their area of of entertainment
education inspiration throughout the
Jewish World so all of this is available
to you at unite2heal.com in fact in
addition to donating and supporting
amudim at that website I strongly
recommend you scroll down and go to the
list of incredible features that will be
presented all through the day and night
a lot of great segments are going to be
introduced at a specific time and you'll
see just how amazing this lineup is and
just how incredible this entire
production again is on behalf of amudim
so again be as generous as possible and
encourage everybody to do the same we
want to see how move them get to their
goal we want to see I moved them
flourish for yet another year with the
very incredible work that they do on a
daily basis with all all the cases and
all the incredible help and assistance
that they're giving to individuals and
families throughout the entire world I
want to take this opportunity to thank
our friends at flow motion the
everything of course in this 36 hours is
going through their Studio here in
Brooklyn New York and working with their
staff is always a treat always a delight
and a special thank you to them our
friends at charity Biz have been working
very hard to make sure that some amazing
personalities and great people who are
experts in their field are going to be
joining us during these 36 hours both
live and some incredibly produced
segments that you'll find fascinating so
give it a shot check out the lineup see
the schedule unite2heal.com and you'll
see what we have to offer and what to
expect over the next 36 hours at the
very top of the page is the most
important function however of this
36-hour campaign and this live
presentation and that's the ability to
donate to support the great work of
amudim so so many people are already
very familiar with the serious work that
they undertake on a daily basis and how
hard their staff works and the results
that they get and how so many kids and
so many young adults and so many adults
in our community plus their families
have been affected in such a positive
way so that they can continue with their
life and in many cases that their lives
can be saved and they can move on to
build peaceful and wonderful lives for
themselves and for their family so
please let's not forget the most
important thing about unitesaheel.com
and that is to support amudim make sure
to get as much support as possible
through your own network of friends and
family post on your social media that
people should be tuning in and giving
and being as generous as possible and
let's make this campaign amudum's most
successful ever Rabbi speak luck is CEO
and co-founder of amudim and he is here
on this Sunday wanted to kick off this
amazing presentation a pleasure to
welcome you to unite to heal rabbit
speak look thank you and as always thank
you for your dedication and your true
concern and compassion
and again I just want to say a quick
Mazel Tov to you and timister who you
know without her we wouldn't even be
able to be in you know doing this so
Miriam is amazing so thank you to Miriam
Malik and Mazel Tov and uh listen let's
just keep having some Christian you know
that's the main thing I'll mean to that
and I pointed out to you the other day
and it's a great place to start that
with all the very serious situations
that you deal with and we're talking
about in many cases situations that end
with the worst results possible I think
what keeps you going is all the positive
results the incredible things that your
staff does to make sure that individuals
and their families can flourish after
all the problems they've been having
absolutely I mean the staff are are
amazing I mean I say this all the time
and I don't say it enough every single
member of the Amazon family they're
really like it's it's just pieces of the
puzzle that we can't do without and
excuse me very often in our line of work
we don't always get to see the the
beauty at the end people very often when
they're doing better they want to forget
that we are there because it brings back
dark memories which we understand but
when we do get those beautiful emails
from people saying thank you I'm getting
engaged or I'm having a child or I
graduated college or I got my degree you
know it gives this tremendous uplifting
and I've said this before but we have
what we call the the pillar of
strength that we have in the office and
it's basically where we post all the
nice you know messages that we get from
the people that we've helped and we
obviously take off the names of course
but it's a real source of inspiration
and that's really what keeps us going is
looking at the wins you in fact pointed
out to me that there has been I mean
there are many Gatherings where you
invite people that have been involved
both professionally and of course as
clients and there are times when people
people who work clients will get up and
tell the board members and those
gathered exactly what their experience
was like and it's it's got to bring
tears to the eye it's got to be a
chilling experience but again it's part
of what makes all this worth it right so
what's really interesting is whenever
they ask me you know can you um find
someone that we've helped that's willing
to speak or do an interview it's always
very difficult and we don't want to
pressure anybody and we don't want to
force anybody so it is what it is but
the few times that that's happened in a
public setting was unscripted like we
were we were doing a staff appreciation
weekend of inspiration for the staff for
their families and you know we we were
at a hotel and there were other families
there not part of our event but they
were there and as we were kicking off
the Saturday night malava Malco
someone comes up in front of a few of
the board members and says to me do you
mind if I say a few words about amudum
and I always get nervous you know but
again it's not a live event type it is
what it is and and she gets up and just
gives this heartwarming speech and and
everybody there was like shocked because
we couldn't have I mean and of course
there were those jokes of saying oh you
got her to come to Shabbos you know
which is always cute but no and it's and
it's things like that it's those small
things I was at a wedding last week some
guy comes over to me and shows me a
picture he goes you need to look at
these pictures of my son I never heard
of him I never heard his name I never
heard of his son's name but again
showing me how he's doing great he's in
college now these are just things that
just keep us going all right we have a
packed hour so we only have a couple of
minutes to go uh you and I let's remind
everybody why it's so important to
support the cause I mean we are we you
can go through the entire list of
different cases that you take care of
for our community just tell people why
it's so important to keep on moving
going because in order for us to be able
to have these great happy stories you
know we need to go through the component
of really making it happen and our staff
which are all trained professionals
therapists they need to get paid we have
therapy subsidy funds that when we have
money we can subsidize therapy we have
to do awareness you know bringing about
awareness isn't just about a modem but
it's about people getting help
regardless of how they find the help but
you know that costs money and the
operation is a very expensive operation
and we need all the help we can get you
do amazing work your staff's incredible
and there are so many different
categories of problems out there in our
community that are being addressed by
ahmud and the list is endless and we'll
get to some of them of course during
these this incredible program Rabbi
spieglock I thank you continued success
I hope these 36 hours are in fact a
great success I hope you get to your
goal and then I moved him gets to its
goal and if you're able to continue on
for the next many many months and years
helping people in our community I mean
thank you very much I appreciate that
it's unite to heal 2022 everybody it's
an incredible kickoff of an amazing
program that's going on for uh 36 hours
check it out go to the website
unite2heal.com see the amazing lineup of
fantastic features and wonderful
wonderfully produced pieces that are
going to be a part of this entire live
stream we are now going to go to this
video presentation and come back with
plenty more at unite to heal 2022.
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my name is Yehuda Greenberg
I grew up in a very from Orthodox
household I went to goodieshiva's good
schools you know I had good grades you
know I was going to be the next god of
the next Ralph and then over the years
things you know started to to fall apart
I didn't feel in place I felt out of
place whether it be in Social settings
in family settings School settings I
just wanted to be okay with myself I
wanted to be okay with my family who at
that point our relationship was strained
obviously they wanted a path for me that
I didn't want for myself or didn't know
what I wanted for myself but I knew that
I wasn't comfortable with what I was
doing so I started smoking weed and you
know I was accepted into a new social
setting amongst peers that smoked weed
and we had fun and over time that then
like the other you know drugs substances
over time I had developed a habit of
taking prescription medications that
were unprescribed and included opiates
benzodiazepines and along with that came
a lot of alcohol
one thing led to the next and the drug
usage got worse over time until I
developed an addiction both physical and
mentally but the most important thing
about it was that it it made me feel
okay and I would forget the day come
night time and come to morning time I
had something to look forward to
emotionally I think it was the best word
to describe it was numbness there was no
emotions it was just me living in this
alternate universe that uh there wasn't
emotions it was so empty it was just
there was nothing there I still remember
vividly it was a Friday night it was at
a friend's house eating a Shabbos dinner
and a gentleman that was part of my
father's he sat me down he said maybe
you should think about getting some help
and for the first time I felt it was
somebody wanted to help me somebody
understood what I was going through it
was eye-opening to me and I said sure
come Sunday he called me and said I
spoke to an organization on your behalf
it happened to be a mudim and he said
you know we record a treatment center
that you could go get help and he said
this is when your flight is do you want
somebody to fly with you I was in shock
I was nervous fearful anxious I said no
I'm okay I was a big boy I said I'll fly
by myself it was in California I went to
Chabad Treatment Center I went not
knowing what to expect and it was the
best experience I ever had it was a
place where I belonged there was no
judgment that for me was the most
important thing it was feeling that I
was a part of something that I never
felt before and throughout all this the
healing emotionally began and a lot of
it started with the community but a lot
of it was being okay and comfortable
with who I was and who I wanted to be
when I got out out of treatment I then
started a case management work at a
hospital detox and that's really where
things started coming together for me
my job was to talk to people and get
them to treatment that was my job having
those conversations and just opening
their eyes to like what life can be and
also leaning on my past experiences it
just made it a lot easier seeing
somebody go from point A in their lives
even to point B it doesn't have to be a
to z but gay I'm into treatment is like
the most drastic thing I can do to help
somebody just like somebody did it for
me it's something I love doing and I
built my self-confidence and people
started to lean on me for and whether it
was a ride to work or whatever it was
people leaned on me for for something
and and now I got married which is my
biggest dream and God willing starting a
family and my parents I am forever
grateful I think they're very proud of
what I've done I don't think I would
have been on this path or Journey had an
organization like a movie non-existent
the second day got that call it was no
obstacle there was no how much is it you
know when is it let's get it now I think
that was one of the biggest things that
modem did for me was giving me that
ability to say you know what I'm ready I
want to get help and the rest was taken
care of
I'm forever grateful for I'm with them
for what they provided me and the the
impact that they made on my life
will stand with me forever wherever I go
and the fact that they make on other
people's lives and I see it on a daily
basis is instrumental in helping people
get better and helping our communities
really get better
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and I remind everybody please go to
unite2heal.com give as generously as
possible to keep on move them going this
is our number one of a 36 hour
incredible live stream with amazing
entertainment information discussions
presentations it's chock full of so many
amazing things check out the schedule
unite2heal.com anybody familiar with the
Jewish music world is certainly familiar
with our next guest somebody I know for
quite a while he became even more
well-known in many other facets of
Jewish life
when we unfortunately lost his daughter
johavid garari two years ago avrami
gorari is here he is somebody who has
dealt with and is now an expert in
mental health conditions in the Jewish
Community it is a pleasure to welcome
you to unite2heal.com thank you thank
you for having me I'm not sure but I'm
not sure an expert but I'm glad to be
here I'll tell you listening to your
presentations on the topic it's hard for
us to believe that you're not an expert
at this point I would hope that the
international outpouring after your
daughter left us has helped your family
deal with moving on or continuing after
her passing
um I can talk about myself
I can't talk about my family for myself
it definitely helped
it sparked a discussion
it sparked dialogue
and it helped me cope and to process and
meddle hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of people from across the world
that news
and it's been helpful and comforting for
us
what could you tell us that you've
learned over the last two years in
general about mental health we're
focused on the great work that's being
done in this area by this organization
what can you tell us about our community
and how it does or does not deal with
serious mental health issues how much
time do we have
um it's interesting I was thinking about
it as you told me on Friday that Mazel
Tov and the both of you are grandson I
believe granddaughter
that I think we're living in amazing
times and your daughter your
granddaughter
he's been born into a world that's an
amazing amazing place right now because
we know so much more today than we knew
20 years ago and we have
um access to wonderful organizations
like a modem
which we didn't have access to you know
so many years ago
but not but more than that you know
uh ahmudim and other organizations like
it will take a family in crisis and
somebody in Christ can help them
the questions has to be asked though
what can be done to prevent these kinds
of crises to have happening in the first
place so that organizations like him
with him like others don't have to exist
you know like you know you'll always see
it like say a doctor you know why should
I be interrupt and the the idea has to
be centered around a discussion about
Healthy Living which starts from a very
very young age in healthy parenting
so uh that's what I've learned from the
last um from the last couple of years
that the discussions are happening we
must continue to talk we cannot forget
uh those that are suffering today
obviously but at the same time we need
to
um
talk about how we are rearing children
you know I have a friend
who explained to me after two weeks
later after my daughter passed away he
explained to me you know it's not useful
to to play the blame game and say
because of this teacher this therapist
uh myself my daughter's friends you know
this is what happened but rather to kind
of you know take stock as a community
and figure out what can we do as a
community as a society that these kinds
of things don't happen today and
unfortunately statistically the numbers
are so high when it comes to suicide and
mental health Acuity that
that indeed that needs to be the
discussion yes we need to help those
that are in crisis today but what can we
do for the future what can we do for
your granddaughter which is point two
days ago that 10 15 20 years down the
road
that it's a better place it's a better
world to live in and uh that's one of my
takeaways is our community
beginning to realize or maybe you'd say
it's way past the beginning that mental
ailments
are just as serious or need to be
addressed just wait the way physical
ailments are people understand when
someone God forbid has a disease a
physical disease they understand the
importance of going to a doctor being on
top of things following up etc etc are
we getting to the point where when it
comes to our mental health we're
learning that that process is necessary
as well so I think that on paper we
believe it
mean to say that everyone will tell you
every school will tell you yeah we
realize it's a problem but we're not
quite there yet in terms of okay we're
going to give the same level of
attention that physical health gets and
that's a process and it's happening and
a lot of work has been done and I want
to commence the communities and schools
that are working towards that end but uh
we're not quite there yet
and um
what's happening you know it's a process
and uh again the discussion is important
and the discussion continues and uh I'm
I feel fortunate and unfortunate I guess
but fortunately we're part of that
discussion and try to uh inject some
kind of such a Major Impact
unite2heal.com everybody unitetheal.com
please continue to support the great
work of a mudim of Remy G I would have
to have Remy gurari probably apologize
that's okay
um used your musical moniker for a
moment that's right uh I'd have to
imagine the last two years right you
have helped certain families
immeasurably I can't I'm not going to
start saying that your experience has
gone ahead and saved others lives but
there has to be that element where what
you've gone through has been such an
incredible eye-opener for certain
parents and for young adults going
through similar situations right so yes
and no it's a very interesting question
that you're asking yes or no because on
the one hand people are calling me up
all the time
and on the other hand it highlights an
issue it highlights a problem because
why are people calling me if someone had
a I'm a Layman I'm not a trained mental
health professional
um if someone's in a mental health
crisis why do they pick up the phone and
call up of Remy guerrari they should be
calling up a professional and I've
always advocated for this and I hope
this is going to be in the future where
we have mental health we have a solid
for mental health
just like you know I saw that members
I've spoken to are trained you know how
to deal with mental health cases on the
you know on the spot but we need like
dedicated teams that there's a if they
say if there's a uh a situation where
someone needs help uh there's that
there's mental health triage where you
go to the family with you go to the the
the the parents you say Okay move slide
just like you do with a cardiac patient
move aside uh we got this we know we
don't know what you're doing like 70 to
12 hours or hours then we're going to
hand it off to somebody else and uh yeah
I mean it's great that you know they
call me I try to help him you know that
I can be helpful and productive in some
way
but uh it highlights the floor that why
they're calling me not their at the very
least the primary care physician 911 you
know why they're calling me for advice
sure what's happening in the United
States because now there are more
hotlines and there there is more
attention being paid to this whole issue
I think in general in this country I
hope I'm right about this there are
there are hotlines I don't know how
useful they are right
um I don't know usually are yeah it's a
mixed bag of results I think right and
in our community we obviously want to
take these this very seriously and
utilize the best
as you said respond to emergency like
situations immediately exactly that's
exactly right solar for mental health
mental health there might be something
to that that's my that's my dream I
understand that uh I
I I can't I can't avoid emphasizing the
positive as painful as that might be for
you to hear or even for others to say to
you because you've gone through such a
horrifying experience I don't need the
detail for any parent out there what
what you've gone through one can only
imagine those of us who thank God have
not been in that situation but at the
same time you're you have been at the
epicenter of what I consider to be a
revolution people paying more attention
to this issue people wanting to make
sure that if they they feel that you
know their own child is going through
what your daughter may have been going
through Etc that they are you know
stepping up and not avoiding it and not
trying to deal with an unreasonable or
or unrealistic ways they want to try to
deal with it in a real realistic manner
I think I think that is true and they
are talking about it and uh they should
be talking about it some more
unfortunately there are some families
and some parents that do not want to
talk talk about it and I know it's I
have to spoke to someone last week who
so I think I know more about his
daughter's case than his wife knows so
but people are talking about it and uh
you know go Inspire this more discussion
than the education
we have half a minute your heaven was
based on every picture and video I've
seen one of the most fun-loving
life-loving people that you probably
knew so that's that's the thing I'm
trying to follow a lead and with Ellie
Nash's direction that everything is
positive positive positive I'm not I'm
not complaining I'm not blaming she was
a kind-hearted person she was a
beautiful person she never she was an
angry at religion it was angry at her
neighbors at her family and her friends
anyone shows us a beautiful kind loving
fun person who had a disease
had battled the disease for 10 years and
uh succumbed to it just like any just a
cancer would thank you for helping us
shed light on this issue thank you thank
you for asking me I appreciate that it's
much appreciated Remy garari everybody
and we remember his daughter yochevel
fondly during this segment of course uh
unite2heal.com unitedheal.com it is
annual campaign we want to make it as
successful as possible please donate be
as generous as you can and encourage
others to do the same we're going to
wrap up tomorrow night hopefully
achieving our goal let's make sure
amudim has the ability to continue to
help people in difficult situations like
the ones we've been discussing already
this morning unite2heal.com we're going
to go to a video now which is going to
describe the very interesting behind the
scenes of what happens when ahmudim is
presented with a brand new case please
watch the video
and a modem case manager is a very
specific job case manager is not exactly
the right title for the job therapist is
not the right title for the job over the
years we've tried to come up with like
different titles comprehensive case
manager clinical case manager but it's
very unique because we're not just
providing a referral initially we were
providing case management just by having
people that were being trained as case
managers and then we realized that if we
had clinicians doing the case management
component that would actually make it
much more effective and more efficient
so we then started hiring clinicians to
do that same work it's not about just
doing referrals you know giving a number
five seconds on the phone it was an
understanding that what we're dealing
with here is a mental health crisis
we're dealing with addictions we're
dealing with victims of abuse almost all
the cases are due to some sort of trauma
be it sexual trauma be it childhood
trauma physical abuse issues that really
need more than just a referral often we
get calls from not even the clients
themselves we get calls from their
siblings parents Rob vanim all many
teachers principals who are just looking
for help we will get a lot of cases
calling for what we call Psycho
education they want to understand their
loved one or theirs difficulties and
they don't even know how to help them so
they're starting just with tell me more
about their mental health diagnosis
they're extremely vulnerable and you're
the first place that they're going to
and some people just want a referral and
that's it some people need to go into a
treatment center and they want us to be
involved and to follow up and speak with
their therapists there and then even
when they get out of treatment if they
go to uh inpatient Outpatient Center
afterwards if they go to a sober living
kind of home we'll continue following up
if there's any issues we have Liaisons
in all different treatment centers and
we'll try to solve the problem or make
sure everything is perfect and not
involve the client and let the client
work on themselves in the treatment
center and involve them and we'll just
be behind the scenes taking care of
everything making sure that everything
is going well it's a million components
the idea of creating a comfortable place
where people could come in without the
Judgment can get the the advice they
need to referral but also to start
unbeknownst them in the beginning to
build that relationship to create a a
place you know someone that they trust
as case managers we don't know what our
days will look like every day we're
getting a new cases we start by calling
a client I'm asking them what's going on
tell me a little bit about yourself a
little bit about your situation a big
chunk of the day is following up with
old clients checking in how is
everything whether it was a referral
psychiatrist psychologist Clinic have
you gotten through how can I help you
how can I help you to make that
connection and how's it going my
conversations with clients really ranges
from highs to lows I can have some
clients who I speak to will be like
devorah I had an amazing day I had a
great session another client who calls
you up and will say before I relapse and
that's okay we're we're here we're still
here we're not going to drop you because
you relapse that's part of life did
something happen does something trigger
you did something happen with your
parents did something happen in the home
that you're in the most important thing
about case management
is making sure that there's a good
support structure for those in need the
case manager is that that holding
containing voice on the other end of the
line throughout that that process they
might have a therapist they might have a
psychiatrist they might have a group or
an AAA meeting but the case manager is
that constant and really has taken
people from Darkness to light from
Despair and hopelessness to a beautiful
life it's not a one-time two-time or
even ten time phone call this is
something that goes on for as long as
needed
it's going to come down to the clients
to be successful they're the only ones
who can who can achieve what we can do
is provide the support provide the
resources and more than anything provide
the hope
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time tonight the segment that I have
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it is called a Layman and a London sit
down to schmooze and we have an
opportunity to do that and I hope you'll
tune in at 6 p.m tonight for that
conversation we have two special guests
with us live from Israel via Zoom yossi
goldbergstein is director of ahmud in
Israel yasi welcome to the show
and the Hama Monk Is With Us nakama is
Yeshiva University's wertzweiler School
of Social Work Director in Israel a
pleasure to welcome you as well well
here we are we're talking about
supporting abuddin a lot of people don't
even realize that ahmuda has a presence
in Israel yesi galberstein what can you
tell us about the work you're doing with
at-risk youth and so many others Under
the Umbrella of ahmudim Israel
we're doing uniquely in the Israel
office that isn't happening in the
American office we're we're a branch of
them worldwide the case management the
same nature of the work the same uh the
trauma the addiction the abuse
um it's really it's it's the same it's
the same product that we're providing
um what's very exciting which why not is
here uh we've been very blessed to be
able to start a a new project over here
um
we just a few weeks ago uh I moved in
Israel we've joined together with
Yeshiva University Virtual School of
Social Work and we've opened up a clinic
to be able to provide subsidized therapy
uh has been my my partner in this
um so we figured we could tell you more
about it 100 nathama this is very
exciting this official relationship now
between I move them and wurtzweiler of
Yeshiva University uh tell us exactly
what the school what your staff is going
to be providing for those who are in
need
so um we came up with this idea
um because our students needed
um good placements to do their
internship in social work and
um and therefore we partnered with them
we needing to create this Therapy Center
where we provide therapy for any English
speaker in need whether it's Gap year
students whether it's olim whether it's
people that are here for the year or for
a few years to learn and then go back to
America
and we provide mental health
therapy in different
issues or subjects that people need when
in a subsidized way so instead of it
costing a very uh large fee it's it's
very subsidized and that's something
that we we work very very diligently to
make sure that the therapy that we
provide is uh responsible and
professional professional as much as
possible it can be cost prohibitive I
mean you're describing it it could be
cost prohibitive and I'm sure and I'm
sure yes you would agree that the less
expense of it is the easier it is to
provide these services for the people in
need uh yesi
um I guess this really it doesn't need
to be said uh but I think it's such an
important thing to remember uh so many
people think that there are cases and
situations that are isolated in certain
parts of the world it's only the
American Jewish Community that's going
through this it's only in Europe that
the that the kids have this specific
problem when it comes to the to the
areas that I moved them addresses uh
Israel as you just pointed out is not
unique this is what's happening with
kids around the world this is what's
happening with people with these
challenges and I guess that the the the
fact that now ahmudim has extended
itself to Israel is just to address the
needs of those who are going through the
same things
right it's it really is the same needs
it's the same issues research data
statistics show that you know even abuse
it's it's Global it doesn't make a
difference what type of community what
we're living in what culture uh by and
large the you know the sort of
Statistics uh sadly are really pretty
flat pretty uh similar across the board
um one one aspect that is I think unique
about Israel's work in Israel
um you know uh in contrast to to the
American work is a common denominator of
so many of the families and individuals
they're working with they're here
somewhat figuratively alone you know at
their anglos and whether they're Gap
year students away from their home and
family whether they're Olean who left
the cousins and the parents and the
siblings behind
um that that becomes a marked you know
significant difference their experience
not a cultural difference but a
practical difference and that's a very
important thing you're pointing out
because that then you need more
hand-holding in those situations when
people either are alone or feel more
alone nakama is it hard because
obviously in this country we have a
tremendous resource of English speakers
is it hard to find professionals or
people who want to go in this line of
work who are English speakers in Israel
well I think um I'm not sure if it's so
hard to find I think that um the
communities are are growing and and you
do have professionals and I think that's
part of what what's Weiler does as
trained Professionals in English for the
English-speaking Community however what
I think is really harder is to navigate
the system in Israel and if we provide a
system then it's much easier for them to
to access the therapy because in Israel
mental health it can be subsidized by
the kupatollium the nhs's right however
however for for the English-speaking
population to navigate the the system
and to know who's professional who is
professional that's something that a
mudim is very good in providing the who
are the good and professional and
registered and certified people to do
the the help to give the proper help and
with him has an amazing intake process
that they do and that they provide to
because in Israel almost anybody who
takes a crash course in anything can
decide that their uh a pop star uh a
professional in DBT because I took it at
eight just as an example an eight-week
course in DVT so now I'm like this
professional
um however uh we work very hard to make
sure that everything is regulated and
um and that and the the help that we
provide is professional and I think
amudim has this amazing reputation in
doing uh really great work in that sense
one of the reasons and that's what we
want to provide in the therapy center as
well one of the reasons those of you at
home please or on the road wherever you
are watching should be supporting the
work of amuda which is completely
International at this point not that
this is time for my aliapush but the
students in the United States know that
this opportunity is available if they go
into these Social Work fields and want
to move to Israel
they will now they certainly will I have
to make sure to push it I can tell you
that much uh yes see the is the um
sometimes the pressure it seems on some
of the younger people in Israel is more
difficult for them to deal with whether
it's Army issues or expectation issues
the loneliness that you just described I
mean that's obvious that that in and of
itself is is a difficult hurdle to
achieve so sometimes do you think that
there's there's more intense
intervention needed or a little bit of a
different angle of intervention needed
for those who are over there but it's
it's it's a difficult question
um I I can say I can answer yes and I
can answer no I think that for young and
adults and whether we're talking about
adolescence whether we're talking about
people in their 20s
um I think that that age you know that
that period of years is is going to be
complicated wherever they're living
um
so you know yes globally
um at the same time and this is
something that we see uniquely with The
Gap year students almost like
Bittersweet almost uh certainly with
with history you know with trauma cases
and abuse cases
um an advantage that the the young
adults had when they're coming overseas
maybe for a gap year for Yeshiva for
Seminary
they're away from the source of pain
from the source of abuse and it might be
the first time they're having the
opportunity to actually
deal with this and address this and it's
it can be advantageous for them so the
hummus sometimes when someone's far away
from the source of the situation it's
easier to get a bigger picture and deal
with it more effectively huh
a lot of people send their their a lot
of parents will send their their their
adolescence to Israel and a gap year
program in an attempt to to also get a
breather for themselves but also
hopefully that that way it'll be it'll
get taken care of they'll come to the
whole the land and things will get taken
care of
um and and by SBA being able to provide
the service I think it's a it's really
apart from the right thing to do it's
really a great facet that we can that we
can provide this it's complicated huh
sometimes it is life life is life is
that's for sure how do people both here
and in Israel find out more about your
program to come among how do they hop
aboard this wurzweiler bandwagon and you
know eventually get to help people the
way we've described
anyone who's interested in the
wertzweiler MSW can just go online
Center phenomenal great great
opportunity for so many people and yasi
joined me and remind the original
support I move them I mean you don't
have to go through your entire daily
schedule for us but there are specific
types of cases I'm sure that you have in
mind when you're asking along with me
for people to support what you're doing
I mean you're probably thinking of of
those underprivileged kids that are in
really serious situations and thinking
about families that can really use some
help tell everybody out there why they
should support everybody that moved them
as much as they can
yeah you know it's
everyone's pain is unique to their own
experience and it doesn't make a
difference whether it's someone dealing
with us an alcoholic spouse it doesn't
make a difference if it's someone's own
uh history of trauma something that uh
from their history something in the
present tense everyone's pain is is real
for them
um and it's it it becomes equally tragic
um and I mean that in a sensitive way
not in an insensitive way right and we
need your help uh and wouldn't survives
by everyone's generosity and kindness uh
keeping us afloat it's it's a donation
driven organization
everybody around the world United States
Israel and Beyond support I moved them
right now unite2heal.com unite to
heal.com ayossi goldberstein director of
Israel thank you and the hum among
director of Yeshua University's Works
Wireless School of Social Work in Israel
thank you both very very much thank you
for having us
unite2heal.com please be as generous as
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Miriam L Wallach I am told that tomorrow
Ellie schwabel is going to be part of
our broadcast tomorrow night many of you
are familiar with the incredible
revolutionary
song that he introduced last year we get
the opportunity to talk about the
aftermath one year later that incredible
song which has saved lives and helped
families we'll discuss that tomorrow
night
also speaking of Music we're about a
minute away from a brand new song one of
the brand new songs that maishi tishler
has released and now it's available in a
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get ready for a great video more debuts
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amudim tomorrow night we're going to
find out and I certainly hope it'll be
in the affirmative whether we achieved
our goal for this year but it's millions
of dollars that are required for ahmudib
in New York in America in Israel and in
the entire world to help those in need
whether it's teenagers young adults
young marrieds small families large
families older families ahmudum is there
as you heard yesi say earlier to address
everybody's issues of pain mean those
situations that are causing pain for
individuals and families we need you to
support ahmudim and let them continue
this amazing work Case by case family by
family all these donations are so
impactful they are literally saving
lives it is now with great pleasure that
unites a heal and unite2heal.com and I
move them and charity bids and all of us
debut this brand new video It's called
Actos togetherness Unity here is maishi
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of course by ahmudim we're at the end of
hour number one of this incredible 36
hours a big thank you to Rey's Thon I'm
told that Ray's Thon again a big big
thank you for all the help in this
campaign I've also been told by Robert
spiegluck who rejoins me that we are
over 240 thousand dollars already on our
way to Millions at a very successful
campaign and keep in mind that every
dollar you give is quadrupled which
means when you give a hundred dollars
it's really four hundred dollars and
when you get five hundred dollars it's
really two thousand dollars and when you
give eighteen hundred dollars that's 72
hundred dollars we spoke about these
donations being impactful not only they
impactful in the field for all these
cases to be done internationally for
those who need amudim but they're
impactful because every time you give
it's literally being quadrupled all
right Steve Glock is CEO and co-founder
of amudim welcome back we're in the
middle of uh or actually at the end of
hour number one ready to got some
incredible presentations a wonderful 36
hours all leading up to tomorrow night's
Grand Finale when I know we're going to
achieve our goal I learned a lot of
things this hour right what can one
learn in one hour it's only an hour I
learned that your case managers go
through the incredible work that they do
every one of them completely immersed
into whatever the situation is to help
that individual or family I learned
about actus I love the new song with uh
with marshy titsler I learned about the
mental health issues that of Remy gurari
brought to our attention and it's so
amazing to see how positive he is after
what his family has gone through but
he's just moving forward and trying to
help as many people as possible and of
course we learned about you know we've
spoken about ahmudum Israel and how
you're International and how the need I
remember when you first introduced there
was a need to get to Israel but now we
spoke to a couple of people who are on
the front lines and have described us
exactly how it works every single day
over there in Israel so in one hour of
my Gluck we could learn a lot about him
um yeah we could and I have to say that
first of all avrami garari is is an
inspiration uh you know and a lot of the
stuff that he spoke about you know I'm
proud to say that uh we have discussed
at length and we have agreed to try to
partner on some of these projects and
try to help get it to the next level
um you know there is still a lot of
hesitation in the from world for new
ideas but um you know when I go with him
someplace or when he speaks to people so
we actually just spoke outside for a few
minutes I gave him the quick updates
about some of the new things that amudum
is doing you know we're opening up our
own clinics so we can defray the course
like you heard from Heritage Israel you
know Israel was initially open to be a
transition location for clients that
were going there for seminary in Yeshiva
and now it's a full-fledged you know
operation with you know I mean
therapists full Clinic you know case
management and we get requests from
other countries all the time but you
know there's a lot of you know things
involved in doing it but that's why we
help people wherever we can but avrami
has been a real inspiration and we look
forward to doing more with him and our
staff death in Israel you know led by
yasi goldbergstein is just it just makes
it's just so heartwarming to see how you
know these things are growing and I must
say this
you know it's really unfortunate it is
what it is that men decline all of a
Shalom my partner and the one who pushed
me to the limits and I still feel him
pushing me you know did so much but you
know I say this all the time when we
first started nobody ever dreamed that
you know within nine years it would be
over 14 000 individuals that we've
helped and over 40 something countries
around the world over close to 43 States
within the United States and it was
really a vision that thousands during a
pandemic oh the pandemic was uh you know
we we people always say to me why'd you
get involved in that I said listen
everybody had to step up in areas they
can help I mean but at the end of the
day it's it's such a heartwarming thing
and I must say that when we do events
like this and every year I always tell
people it's not just an inspiration for
us and for our staff but it's also so
inspirational for the clients for those
that need help that they see people are
coming out to support such a cause it
gives them that that oomph as well
because so often people that are
struggling they feel like they're all
alone and you know we can't have that I
want to make two points uh based on what
you just said first of all it sounds
like
in the aftermath of this conversation
that avramiji's idea of sort of a hot
Salah for mental health is not that far
off right now that's exactly the way he
described it but there's something there
his idea for having and I'll say this is
traditionally in the EMS World mental
health is always viewed as like one of
these things where like EMS people will
show up and I'm not blaming them they
work hard and we all work I've been a
paramedic for 20 some odd years and it's
almost like oh we feel that there's a
problem we're going to get the police
involved and things get escalated and
and to have a system in place of
de-escalation in the sense of being able
to get people to the proper Healthcare
mental health facilities is so important
and I definitely agree that we do need
to work on the pre-hospital end of of
that tremendously the other thing on the
point that was in the conversation that
Jesse was involved with it's obvious
that you made the smart move of of
making sure to put into place people who
are very familiar with the culture of
the area you can't just take it on with
them staff member and Transplant them to
Israel you need someone who understands
as much as their similarities we did
emphasize the similarities but there's
so many cultural differences and nuances
that you made sure to find an expert in
that area we actually have learned that
the hard way I'm not gonna you know
meaning even when we opened an Israel
things were really good but we we did
learn that part the hard way and we're
dealing now with a bunch of cases in
Canada and in the United Kingdom and and
where you also need people so we started
finding local people that were able to
deal with regularly as these clients are
calling us we get to understand the
culture there the types of care that's
there so while we may not have an actual
formative office location yet but the
over 250 clients in Canada they need to
be cared for based on what's going on in
Canada and am I right that you had
either a European or South American
component wasn't there no no not a
component but we've we've become tax
deductible we've opened up arms in in
the United Kingdom and in Canada so
people can make donations but it was not
designed for us to get donations to
America it's to help us cover the
expenses of all the clients we're
helping there you know we have to pay
for therapy for clients in in Canada pay
for people in the United Kingdom
especially where you have socialized
medicine it makes it so much more
difficult so understanding the systems
and the nuances is so key so while we
may not have a physical office but we
have hundreds of people that were
helping and having boots on the ground
being able to guide us and talk to us is
such an important piece and now we're
dealing with that with Panama uh with
Mexico I mean we're literally I mean
we're supposed to be going to South
Africa to do a big training there to get
the schools involved I mean it's it's
it's beautiful it's scary and but I just
have to say people often say you know
it's like scary how the numbers are
increasing cerebellum Brittany who
always manages to tell us no it's not
that more people are having problems
it's more people are feeling comfortable
to reach out for help wow you mentioned
therapy some people you know a they're
skeptical could you just give us a half
a minute on why the therapy and the
therapists are so effective so I mean
the reason why people are skeptical is
because of what I like the world the
dirty s word the shuttle world and
they're scared of what the stigma is
going to be associated with it but I'm
proud to say I myself I'm in therapy
every week I'm not embarrassed about it
you're saying this to an international I
will say this to anybody I go to therapy
every single week
and I think people need to understand
that it is a way that keeps us healthy
Keeps Us grounded and it works and you
know what I'm living in a very high
stressed environment and it's important
and people should not be embarrassed
just having that ability to get
something off someone's chest we're not
even talking about finding the magic one
just to be able to talk to somebody
without any judgment than knowing that
this person is going to keep it private
keep it a secret and then help work
through whatever issues you know people
have and I see it from myself therapy is
extremely important Rabbi Glock thank
you for uh for your leadership in this
area and I wish all of us good luck did
I moved in by tomorrow night has
achieved its goal excellent so do I
thank you everybody out there here's
your opportunity your opportunity to be
a tremendous Ambassador for ahmud I'm
not just a donor but an ambassador
telling your friends and relatives
around the world how important this
cause is how critical the need is out
there and making sure to donate as much
as you can remember every single
donation could you imagine every single
donation is quadrupled your 18 is 72 and
your 100 is 400 etc etc somebody who
gives a thousand dollars is really
giving four thousand talk about impact
talk about making sure to get out there
and give to the point where your
donation means so much that's what's
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Campaign so make sure to join us all
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to give at unite2heal.com my name is
natham Siegel be as generous as possible
let's make this campaign a very
successful campaign for ahmudim
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they're trying to get a direct line of
x's or O's diagonally up and down or
across and they do that by asking when I
ask a celebrity a question they all have
an opportunity to agree or disagree with
their answer if they're right they get
the square if not the other contestant
will get the square that's how it works
our celebrities are all set coin toss
backstage determined who begins our game
and we are starting with Yoni Z Yoni
choose a celebrity please all right
um let's start with the birthday boy
Shalom lemmer happy birthday Shalom
everybody
appreciate it gets our first question
and here it is uh when avram freed told
this singer a voice like yours comes
along once in a generation I just wish
it wasn't my generation who is he
talking to
he was talking to Mordechai and David
Yoni Z agree or disagree I agree I agree
the answer is MBD X gets the squared
we're off to a great start all right
Shaya choose a celebrity
we're gonna go with my old classmate are
you a counselor
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uh recorded albums for scalene sotmer
Bob of and boyan though he himself was a
khasid of which Dynasty
um but I but I kind of I'm sure am I
wrong is that your answer yeah Arya says
agree or disagree
that is totally Incorrect and he's
disagreeing and it should he did because
the answer is dare circle gets the
square I was hoping okay as we move on
to Joni the only way on the board are we
going okay we're gonna see okay Mom
let's see I'm just trying to get some
strategy in the game here okay so
nothing personal to anyone simcha leiner
you are perfectly situated for this next
one
let's go listen to liner welcome to the
show here we go according to the kalbot
school website Rabbi kambach
received his smiha from which of the
following rabbinic leaders his father
Robin Cutler
so being that I live really close to
wherever Aaron Cutler lived it would be
a disservice to choose anyone else so I
say a barn color who also inspired the
song Luis obis
I'm in full agreement with Santa there
and uh unfortunately for you the answer
is
and now
has an opportunity to really do some
damages okay who are you going for no
question at least rainbow Center Square
for this game Ellie hello are you really
well I'm very excited to like win this
for you baby I'm with you let's go all
right this is a tough one here we go the
Smithsonian music
spirituality exhibit right so
Smithsonian Institute has a playlist
with a waltz from this Hasidic Group
which one is it so
so just to my zaidi
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and I love nagoon and for me what I
consider the greatest of all time is the
majita is the majita dynasty
so for me guaranteed 100 It's gotta be
the budgets the Magic's uh Dynasty Shaya
agree or disagree well he's a very artsy
guy I'm gonna have to go with it and the
answer is much it's congratulations
and we're gonna move on to the second
game in this round of holy squares
and contestants
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squares presented by ahmudin and powered
by our friends at charity bids
congratulations to uh Shia heft he's the
winner of round one and he will play the
winner of this round we have at The X
Podium Aviva Gluck welcome I will note
you are a sort of returning Champion
you've won this game before and right by
motion mayorfeld is here by mayor Feld
here at the Circle Podium welcome to the
show a pleasure and Aviva we had a coin
toss backstage and you've been chosen to
go first please choose a celebrity I'm
going to start with Benny Friedman Benny
offset
name the prime minister of Israel who
has a Milwaukee Public School named
after them
well being from the Midwest
um I'm a I'm a very a very strong
Aficionado on all things Milwaukee
and
um the only problem is
that I don't know anything about Israeli
Prime Ministers
but
this particular answer I happen to know
and it is the answer called Golda mayor
Aviva agree or disagree
I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna
and the answer is golden mate here next
gets the square nice job there Benny and
Aviva and Robin Airfield we're gonna go
on the board okay I'm gonna go smack in
the Middle with shulum letter show him
he's got the Center Square shalomer we
have the following question for you this
city was the first city in America to
have an a-roof
well it's kind of obvious people that
are the most against the Arab probably
had it the longest
do we use this it's enough time it's
enough time to become you know is it
good is it not good finally there's so
many sides so I would say
uh I'm not gonna say Brooklyn I'm
actually going to say Manhattan Lower
East uh hmm you know what
probably in the Bronx
Solomon says the Bronx right mayor felt
agree or disagreement although I love
you I'm gonna have to disagree with you
the answer is Louis and circle gets to
Center Square and Aviva you choose the
next time
I am gonna go with simpler please
if you won the Uber cup
which sport are you best at
if I won the Uber cup
uh I'm not really a sports buff but
being that I grew up in England
and sucker really was uh whether even
even if you didn't watch any media just
living near Wembley Stadium you really
got to know why is the traffic today
it's the Uber cup so I'm gonna have to
go with the soccer uh Viva agree and
disagree honestly I have no idea what
the Uber cup is but because something
simple is from England but I agree with
him and the answer is badminton and
circle gets the square and I may have
felt finds himself in a very interesting
position Rabbi here we go I'm going to
go with my dear friend from Manchester
England surely Port Nori all right it's
really important here we go here's your
question which of these singers did not
get their start with the Miami Boys
Choir which of these singers did not get
their start with the Miami Boys Choir
Mordechai Shapiro maishi tischler yaakov
schwecky and slimy Dax
I am gonna go with yaakov shwekey he
says yaakov shwekey agree and disagree
Rabbi I am going to Grieves really and
the answer is maishi tischler and X gets
the square and now Aviva has a chance to
move ahead and move on to the next round
Aviva what are we doing here I am going
with slimy Kaufman Captain you're all
set let's do it let's do it come on
let's get you a win 36 years ago
one of the founding producers of the
Hass concert wanted to add a spartic
spice to the already unprecedented
lineup of Mordechai Ben David and avram
freed who did he choose
well since I was a hearty age of single
digits back then I was listening to
music all day and I couldn't wait for a
Sparty singer in the market so I'm gonna
go with
Sandy shmueli he answered Sandy schmaley
I'll be about agree at this group I'm
gonna disagree the answer is
though yeah thank you very much Rabbi
thank you Aviva goes up against Shia in
the final of this round of this game
they have holy and squares coming up get
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Beach our celebrities already our
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I really can honestly say that out of
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both find yourselves in the championship
round all right here we go everybody a
coin toss backstage determined that the
circle Podium is going to begin the
championship game that means Shia you
need to choose a celebrity
oh
Benny
uh Benny Friedman all right here we go
Center Square as he's known while its
official name is congregation kahila
thiakov most people know this Manhattan
shul as what
I just read that book
I just read that book it's called the
85th Street synagogue
85th Street synagogue Shaya agree or
disagree
I'm gonna go with it
he agrees the answer is the kalbach shul
and X gets the Center Square Aviva time
for you to choose and I'm gonna go with
lady falkowitz all right Blade the old
set
welcome to the show uh what is Rabbi
Jacob snowman's relationship to the
royal family of England Rabbi Jacob
snowman what's his relationship to the
royal family of England
that might be
but while he was in England he may have
been involved in something else
you like the buffing your mouth
say it again
he enjoys visiting the moment he was a
visitor
was he a well-known visitor was he a
visitor with a purpose what could you
tell us about the rabbi
are you gonna go with that
yes all right a visitor to Buckingham
Palace Aviva agree or disagree
um I think I should have gone to
something simple for this question
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Benson
who are all first names of what
Benson Armin Eden are all first names of
Benson Armand Edith all first names oh
of opera singers
opera singers in the 50s those are the
those are the first things of the Opera
singers I forgot the last name but I
know for a fact I remember this The
Three Tenors
100 Shaya agree or disagree
Ellie can you sing me one of their songs
yeah sure
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yeah no it's definitely not
nope
you disagree disagree the answer is they
are the first names of kosher wedding
halls Benson Chateau Armin Paris and
Eden Palace and circle gets the square
on that one and we move on
no I saw it all right I experienced it
Ellie Aviva where are we going
um I'm gonna go with simple liner please
uh in November of 1973
Rabbids and Esther younggrice made
history with the group he Nani selling
out Madison Square Garden and it
inspired the title track of hinene by
the one and only Mordechai Ben David who
wrote the lyrics to that song
oh that's a great question
um my sister-in-law is actually rabbit
from younger I said as a granddaughter
so for that reason I should know the
answer that I actually don't
um I will assume that it was written
by a recent growth
say it again
I recent gross interesting uh Aviva
agree or disagree I apologize simpa but
I'm gonna disagree with you and the
answers are by nuts and Sherman and X
gets the square and we move on to Shia
looks like I'm double trapped oh this is
going to be interesting where does he go
what is the strategy is the question
all right we gotta go with swirly
they're really important oh you're all
set for the question
which singers
did matisya
Scribe by saying the following I don't
think you could pull one of his songs
that didn't have quotes from the Torah
or Old Testament
which singer's music was he describing
when he said that
um well I think that Bob Marley was
probably one of his earliest influences
and Bob Marley also is very big into
posing some very good stuff so I'm gonna
go with
what do you think
I'm gonna agree the answer is Bob Marley
and the circle gets the square but Aviva
is left with an opportunity here Aviva I
am going to go with Arya kunsler please
uh who is the corporate sponsor which
company was the corporate sponsor behind
the 1967 salute to Israel music festival
in Central Park that featured the rabbi
Sons
I'm gonna go with Macy's because you
know parades and all but uh other than
Jay and the ass uh
I can tell you it wasn't Jam of the am
all right Aviva agree or disagree with
Arya I am going to disagree the answer
is rheingold beer and that means that
Aviva is our champion in this game of
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presented by Abu dim and powered by our
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you've been introduced to our incredible
celebrities we have two wonderful
contestants with an unprecedented
contestant matchup going on up here
which I'll explain in a moment and we
are ready to play you know the rules the
simple game of tic-tac-toe each one of
our contestants will choose a celebrity
we'll ask that celebrity a question
they'll agree or disagree and determine
if they get that the specific square and
once somebody has either diagonally up
and down or straight across three in a
row they will be the winner of that game
at The X Podium we have Andy Bosh
welcome Shane d
at the Circle Podium we have a grummy
barge welcome on from me unprecedented
husband and wife going up against each
other in holy in squares how do you like
that
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we had a coin toss backstage before the
game and the X was chosen to begin all
right Shandy who do we go to which
celebrity for our first question I'm
gonna choose Barry all right Barry
Mitchell welcome to the show
thanks for having me a pleasure here's
your question what America
West City
became known for having the first Jewish
hospital in America
Oh I thought it was multiple choice not
this one an American city in the Midwest
known for having the first Jewish
hospital in America
surprisingly
you know this answer because I used to
volunteer for an Outreach organization
that their chapter their region was
actually the Midwest region so I would
have to say Chicago okay I'll be Chicago
okay Barry says Chicago agree disagree
Sandy I don't think Barry knows what
she's saying but I would have guessed
the same thing so I will agree and the
answer is Cincinnati the circle gets the
square
okay I'm gonna go with Daniela in the
middle
Square hi to you Boston dietitian Bertha
wood said Jewish children were high
strung over excited and irritable
because their diets had too little milk
and vegetables and too much what okay so
I would say that she is correct because
they don't have enough candy
uh we all know that all of our children
on Chavez eat lots of candy and even
though we think it's a lot it's not
enough so our kids need more candy more
kiddish more junk and then be healthier
all right what do you think okay well I
would like to discuss about the whole
first of all kosher restaurants it's all
about the dairy everywhere we go Dairy
is so much easier than meat so
I think that doctor's wrong to begin
with so I actually don't think that
candy is what he was referring to so I'm
gonna disagree all right the answer is
pickles
my favorite snack where are you gonna go
I have a feeling you know the answer to
that
new show thank you so much for having me
we have a question for you and here it
is according to tribe according to tribe
what is the minimum number of followers
one needs to qualify as a micro
influencer what is the minimum number
that one must have to be a micro
influencer do you have an answer
I do have an answer
um so this past year I was actually
featured in a movie and I was confused
as to how an actress at you know my
status could eventually get to the point
where Paparazzi are following me so I
actually inquired with a Paparazzi like
Father company and they said the minimum
amount of followers you need in order to
be qualified as an influencer to be
followed you know in the streets and be
photograph is ten thousand yeah what do
you think so if I agree and she's right
I get an X that is correct and if I
disagree and she's wrong and you'll also
get an X
I disagree yes the answer is three
three
I agree with that rummy go ahead what do
you got here for us I forgot to think
strategy for a second okay hold on we're
gonna go
we're gonna go to Elizabeth all right
Elizabeth Sutton welcome to the show
help me out come on thank you what does
the s in mcsy stand for what does the s
in ncsy stand for
the ads in ncsy stands for
students because honestly I would always
just go with whatever anyone's saying
the answer is not right because by
process of elimination we're not going
to be right and I'm not gonna like if
you're smart you would go with whatever
oh for all these answers what we are not
saying is my gut is my gut feeling
others wow this answer came with a bunch
of game advice I like that
cancer is stupid student uh agree or
disagree on me
um
students how many students do they have
in that institution yeah I would assume
tens of thousands tens of thousands
maybe it is participated as a student
you yeah I was a student so if you were
a student and you probably didn't attend
so much so it probably doesn't mean for
students so I'm actually going to
disagree the answer is synagogue
and circle yes
and now uh Sandy I think you only have
one option what do you want to do I mean
I'm double trapped as they say that I'm
double
how am I losing okay I always wins this
stuff we're gonna own this where do you
want to go let's go For Cami
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uh the question is when a recipe calls
for a pinch when a recipe calls for a
pinch about how much is needed to make a
pinch how much of a real measurement is
needed to make a pinch I want to say
because I'm a big
ger cooker all that stuff and I know
that baking is pretty exact
so when they say like a pinch of salt
I've actually put it into a measuring
spoon and it's one-fourth of a teaspoon
agree or disagree Shandy hmm I am
debating if it's a fourth or an eighth
I'm gonna agree uh the answer is a
quarter of a teaspoon
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I don't think
okay
um all right uh Esther Freeman help me
out bail me out help me win this round
let's go
all right after you're all set yeah here
we go this is a uh this is a question if
people know their food and their history
in the 70s and 80s there's a very
popular restaurant in New York called La
difference a French restaurant it was
located in what legendary Manhattan
hotel
while differance was located in what
legendary Manhattan hotel
I'm from Miami
New York many many many times and I have
been in many different hotels in New
York and I currently live in New York
but this is a very unassum
assumption and
that is in the Marriott Hotel
I'm gonna agree the answer is the
Roosevelt Hotel
okay all right who's gonna be
Mayan are you gonna help me out here oh
no
don't choose me all right so Mayan is
our choice with 487 million Instagram
followers Cristiano Ronaldo is the
world's number one social media
influencer what line of work is he in oh
gosh
um
I'll say fashion
uh Shandy what do you think I definitely
disagree the answer is he's a very very
famous soccer player I knew that I
actually
do that because congratulations and we
have another game coming up and we'll
see Shane D again she'll take on the
winner of the next round coming up right
here on holy you squares
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welcome to round two of holy it's
squares presented by a moodin and
powered by our forensic charity Biz we
have two new contestants up here the
winner of this game of course we'll go
up against shanby who won our first game
Kyla Kaufman is at the expodium viola
welcome to the show thank you all
excited oh yeah all right excellent and
Silvia Cohen at the Circle Podium
welcome to you thank you both of you are
set to begin we had a coin talk
backstage Circle won that toss which
means that Sevilla is going to uh choose
the first celebrity where do you want to
start
um okay I'm gonna go with Danielle
Danielle red off is our Center Square
welcome to the show and here we go by
weight what is the most produced crop in
the world this is like right in my
wheelhouse of things I know so this is
great anything food related amazing and
the most produced crap in the world is
corn it's actually used for like much
more than just food it's used for
fertilizer and soil and Building Things
and the husks are used and it's grown in
all regions all over the well not all
regions but all over the world in many
different regions and that's my answer
so if you agree and disagree oh boy okay
she said that really confidently so
either she's just really good at making
stuff up where she's right so I'm gonna
agree the answer is corn circle gets to
Center Square
you're welcome okay so tic-tac-toe when
you take the middle that's the best one
what's the second to best spot
um I'm gonna take Elizabeth Sutton
here's the question the question is
after water and tea what is the most
commonly consumed beverage in the world
so I'm going to have to go with milk
um we all drink it we have to I've had
to include certain populations I'd love
to say American soda but in the world
I'm gonna have to go with milk Kyla
agree to disagree
um
I would say coffee so I'm gonna disagree
all right the answer is beer and
excessive Square you were right
and uh good move all right Cynthia Cohen
where do we go okay so let's see if I
want to double trap Kyla I'm gonna go
with Cami
we have a question for you the earliest
known music recording was a song sung in
what language English French or Spanish
I'm gonna go with
French only because I feel like Opera is
like in that European language and a lot
of songs are in French that we sing to
our children like nursery rhymes so I'm
gonna go with French Silvia what do you
think
um I am going to I'm really just
guessing I'm gonna agree the answer is
French and circle square
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see how Kyle is going to play this which
celebrity are you choosing
welcome to the show I'm atar to combat
the effects of overfishing an upper west
side synagogue announced in September
that they'd be banning which fish from
its Shabbos kiddish menu
hmm well I do know that Herring is has
been used their farming Herring now
because there was a shortage and being
that this is synagogue related and
Herring is a primary fish you'd find on
our table I would say herring Kyla agree
with disagree I agree the answer is
locked and that means Circle Jackson
Square oh but does not win the game we
are playing by the traditional Hollywood
Squares rules let's take away that
Circle in order to win the game you must
earn the square by the way four days
later the ban unlocked to that Jewel was
taken away because of the Uproar that it
caused among its membership uh all right
tibia for the win who are you choosing
can I choose my tar again certainly okay
there we go let's get this
strategy in this case that's for sure
um matar as we get older does our
tolerance for pain increase or decrease
okay so this is a deep rooted one
um I I know from research that our
tolerance for pain actually decreases we
find things a lot harder to deal with we
find things just just yeah our our
struggles become a lot harder to endure
and it's because of our as we get older
our narrow-mindedness and our
self-awareness sometimes is not we're
not as self-aware as we were when we
were younger and also our fears get more
intense as we get older because of our
worldly awareness it does you know
trigger our fears so I will say that our
tolerance gets decreases all right
tolerance pain decreases according to
the answer you want to agree or disagree
I am actually going to disagree with
this the answer is it decreases X gets
the block and now we go to a completely
different game
let's go this is an interesting
tournament should I start guessing who
you're going to be choosing okay yes sir
that's you Esther Freeman you ready for
this one I would say it's because I'm
blonde that she's choosing me and I love
your music that's pretty funny oh thank
you all right no help from anybody who's
in Israel Esther you're not in Israel
now are you no I'm in New York okay no
help from anybody in Israel what is the
value of Israel's highest new shekel
note the currency in Israel is a new
sheko what's the value of the highest
the largest denomination of new shekel
notes the highest denomination
like
hmm
this is a tricky one because I don't
live in Israel right now and I haven't
been there for a couple of years but I'm
throwing you off your game aren't I
um I'm going to say
a thousand shekels what do you think of
three I'm gonna disagree the answer is
200 new Israelis technology
congratulations and Kyle is going to be
taking on Sandy in round number two
actually round number three the
championship round of this game coming
up as you keep it right here at Holy
youth squares
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welcome back it's time for the
championship round of holding youth
squares we've got two amazing
contestants up here Shane D Bosch is to
my right in the X Podium Shane the all
seven Championship rounds yeah we're
gonna kill it
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all right now everybody put on your game
face because it's time for a
championship play of holy squares we did
have a coin toss backstage and the Kyle
of the circle Podium is going to be
going first Hilo where do we start okay
let's start with Amy all right Amy you
all set
I'm ready here is your question
here's your question everyone knows that
the diamond is the hardest precious
stone in the world what's second after
the diamond
I would say
the black onyx is second after diamonds
Kyla agree disagree I'm gonna disagree
the answer is Sapphire Circle gets the
square we go to Changi who gets to
choose a celebrity go ahead Sandy okay
Elizabeth you got me all right assistant
here's your question
uh topping out at around 2.2 million on
the Scoville scale what is the name of
the world's hottest pepper
oh my God my son is obsessed with this
wait I actually know the answer and oh
my God I buy them for him in Cheetos you
need to give me a second he's gonna
be like oh my God no this is you know I
actually know the answers to this but
I'm forgetting right now I need to call
a friend like one of these Cooks
oh
no you know what's really bothering me
he talks about this all the time and
it's like
what the heck is wrong with me
oh my God we're waiting for that aha
moment
no it's gonna kill me I need I need to
call a friend I need to call my son you
want to guess maybe uh think of the
annals of your
pepper experience just let me know if
it's a guess you know what I mean
another one that I want to say it really
bothering me I'm gonna say habanera all
right I don't even know that I'm gonna
disagree the answer is the Carolina
Reaper that is the hottest oh my son
talks about this all the time I don't
think the X gets the square and Kyle is
going to choose AKA celebrity um
trying to think
um I'm gonna go with Danielle hi
the question is
on March the 18th of
1922 Judith Kaplan made history by
becoming the first American to celebrate
what
on March 18th she became the first
American to celebrate St Patrick's Day
I disagree the answer is
I was going to say kaplan's pretty
Jewish I mean Saint Pat Irish
but Daniella that was great that was
that was a great that was great what do
we got all right let's do Barry uh all
right do you go to Barry mitchman Barry
all set here we go ready I am giving a a
little disclaimer that one might
consider this to be a trick question I
don't know if that's going to help you
or not but I'll just keep that in the
back of your mind and here is the
question after Cheerios and Frosted
Flakes respectively what's the third
best-selling cereal in the world
see I know this because I have two tiny
little humans who
um demand cereal for breakfast lunch and
dinner and I gave my children
breakfast cereal and then my son asked
me to put some in a bag for him and it's
not a trick question because you say
Cheerios but that's basic Cheerios we're
talking Honey Nut Cheerios sir
uh agree or disagree I had no idea what
was going on but once you said Honey Nut
Cheerios I'm so with that I agree and
the answer is Honey Nut Cheerios
are you ready for your question
let's go and let's go is right and here
it is in which you know that was so
silly I have two x's oh my gosh I just
noticed the screen can I yeah okay fine
you know what I'm gonna let James you in
the car she thinks she's winning a car
so let's just do this let her see
there's no car okay
backstage and give it a big sign of
relief they didn't have to deal with
weatherbitar or Daniela should go all
right Daniella here's the question which
country has the world's largest aquarium
which country on this globe has the
world's largest aquarium I'm gonna go
with
the United States
they're the biggest best let's say
United States USA Phila what do you
think I'm gonna disagree and the answer
is China which means
Victory first where should we go Shandy
we're gonna have matar win the game with
me let's go here we go pictures on and
here's the question what's the largest
known mammal in the world what's the
largest known mammal in the world I do
believe there are mammals in the ocean
so I'm gonna say that the largest mammal
is the whale
because I do remember reading that and
then
uh you know testing myself okay yeah I
think it's I think the largest mammal is
the whale so I have the same debate in
my head I think that that's what I also
remember from fifth grade so I'm gonna
agree well the answer is blue whale and
that is going to qualifying
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so excited you could join us we're here
on behalf of amudim for the United Hill
event
tonight for the next half an hour we're
going to discuss teenagers we love our
teenagers of course when they're
sleeping but uh our greatest challenge
but perhaps Hashem gave us teenagers so
we can work on ourselves and do the
ratsun Hashem in a different way we can
become better parents and grandparents
to my right are three amazing humans
Menches and rabbis I just like to
identify who they are before we take a
deep Dive Right In now sitting to my
right hands Rabbi Seth grower he's in
the trenches he's a Russia Shiva of not
one but two high schools one for boys
one for girls in Toronto
and he was really seeing day to day
what's going on with her teenagers uh in
the middle here is Rabbi krupkin he's
the maradasha of Canada's largest shul
the buy it a little plug for myself my
father-in-law was the architect for the
buy it he's the past president of the
RCA
and he comes from the perspective of
speaking to parents
who are dealing with teens 13 to 19 10
to 25 with all of their issues
um and uh on the far right is Rabbi Dr
Akiva tatz really a generational
Outreach teacher uh this book is I don't
know probably the most famous book for
teenagers the thinking Jewish teenager's
Guide to Life it's the book I give out
uh really before I even got give out a
homage to kids for the barn Bar Mitzvah
this is the book I give out
but the grower is a great skier
Rabbi karupkin teaches online and Rabbi
tats just told me he has a black belt in
Judo now one of those are lying but
that's totally irrelevant right now
let's go in right now so Rabbi grauer
will kick things off uh really we can
ask all three of you to answer this
question uh things change so much
iPhones the the next model is coming out
I think we can clearly see the
difference between the teenager 10 years
ago till today and what's your take on
that
wow okay huge question to start I'm sure
that uh my distinguished colleagues will
have what to add as well
I would say 2010 was the year that in
many ways it was an incredible spike in
anxiety depression feelings of
inadequacy self-harm among teenagers and
there is incredible correlation
associated with the fact that that was
the year in many ways that social media
spiked uh and popularity all sorts of
new mechanisms that existed the phones
started exploding among our teenagers
and again there is so much to say on
this topic but just to sort of start off
with a small and short sound bite one
cannot look past the connectedness
between the increase in rise in social
media among our high school teenagers
and rates of anxiety depression and just
feelings and lack of self-esteem and
self-concept and self-worth that exists
and I think that it took a long time in
many ways for many within our community
to realize and to recognize the impact
that social media here and just the
ubiquitous use of internet started
having on teens I think now we know and
the question is what we're doing about
it how we are responding but if I had to
sort of pick one point to start us off
and to get us going that would be number
one on my list
um I would
um I would only add to what Rabbi grower
said which is undoubtedly correct I
remember it distinctly because I came to
Toronto to buy it almost exactly 11
years ago and there was an article that
had just come out in the Canadian Jewish
news
that was talking about a new phenomenon
that was manifesting itself in high
school children called half Shabbos now
what was half Shabbos it was children
from Shoma shabba's homes who were
allegedly completely shomer Shabbos
except for the fact that They Carried
their devices with them and would text
on Shabbos that was what they felt was
an acceptable keeping of Shabbos but it
was they called it half Shabbos and it
it was a new phenomenon
I can only say that if that's what was
manifesting back then in addition to
what Rabbi grauer is talking about is
the psychological negative impact of
social media today the the even greater
ubiquity of these devices and the
perceived necessity and I say perceived
because that's the way our many of our
children perceive them uh has only made
things go from half Shabbos to maybe for
some children it's even less than half
Shabbos since then
yeah I think that's all correct I think
the deeper question to ask is really
whether the internet and social media
are the cause or maybe just one more
symptom of something something deeper
and no question we see that young people
now are if you speak to people who work
with the teens they call it baggage
baggage the kids seem to have
baggage they didn't seem to have just a
few years ago one young lady told me
that when the Rama from The Sims came to
her City where she lives to interview
girls for the Seminary
she said Roma I think I need to be
honest I can't apply for the same
without telling you that I'm on
medication you know for anxiety and you
probably won't take me he said young
lady if I didn't take girls through any
anxiety medicine I wouldn't have girls
in my in my summary so there's no
question this is not only teens by the
way we're seeing this across the board
anxiety depression medications you know
I think it's a social phenomenon in
general but it seems to be hitting the
teens particularly hard some say there's
a general dumbing down as well should go
hand in hand with a social media again
how much of a cause and how much an
effect is not clear I think it's very
clear that over the last few years we've
seen a precipitous decline in
independent thinking and independent
self-confidence and these things seem to
be manifested you know
uh yeah
I am a synagogue Rabbi as well Outreach
my sense though is that
some of the teens uh are taking this
powerful tool and doing amazing things
with it I mean I I've never bought a
stock when I was a teenager I didn't
know how to handle money I had a velcro
wallet that I lost all the time uh I
mean I get the sense that kids today
they're they're buying stocks they they
know what they're doing they're in
control and is is there a positive at
all twist with a percentage of them that
are actually elevating their game
because of so much technology it's like
letovin Laura like do we see that at all
look I'll I'll share a thought
um without a doubt there's definitely no
one will disagree with the fact that
there is incredible Tove that exists
some of the websites are amazing you
know the amount of Torah that's consumed
on the internet uh kids who are able to
put together different Torah and prepare
they have lists of websites that they go
to and they're able to put together
wonderful delivery Torah I think that
I'm guilty to some extent in the sense
that early on years ago 10 years ago
even earlier I was a proponent I was a
believer of the internet is here to stay
social media is not going anywhere we
have to figure out how to integrate it
within our lives we have to figure out
how to teach our children how to use it
in moderation we have to teach them how
to be responsible we have to do like we
do with everything exists in this world
where we take what's given to us and we
teach our students our tamidam or
tomidot our children how to act
responsibly with it and I think that in
many ways we misunderstood or at least I
could speak for myself
just how challenging the pull is of what
is a billion dollar industry of which
you have huge numbers of really
brilliant individuals who are curating
content building sites whose sole
purpose is it to bring our teenagers our
youngsters and you know and go beyond
that into emerging adults and later
adolescents young adults into the world
you know think about it from the
following perspective every product has
a buyer a seller and the product right
that's how business Works everything has
to be monetized in a very very important
way when it comes to social media the
buyer is actually the advertising
agencies the advertising content the
seller are the companies the product is
actually the people the product of the
students the product are the teenagers
the product are adults of all ages and
the difference is at what age are our
kids old enough and and responsible
enough to be able to consume the
material properly in 1998 the United
States government set the age of 13 as
the age by which consent would not be
needed to give out personal information
that hasn't been updated since then it's
a crazy thing in many ways so yes there
is incredible positive content amazing
opportunities that exist the question is
to what extent are we making a mistake
by giving it in an open environment
without the proper controls and
moderation that really is necessary and
I think that in many ways we are still
underestimating just the impact of it
I would add only that I think more
fundamental problem is that we're having
trouble with kids
and adults as well connecting to their
Judaism in a meaningful way you know how
much the internet is responsible is an
interesting discussion but the problem
we're having on the ground as Educators
is we're just having a lack of
enthusiasm uh concept of a mono where
people really feel the Judaism and take
it seriously
um you know and and and I think I think
that's operating on two levels one is
General integration as wholesome happy
productive people and the second is the
Jewish take on that you know which is
their attachment to their to their
Judaism and I think
this is echoing in families so it isn't
only the kids having this issue we're
seeing it across the board and I think
that's the real problem facing us is
that there's just a lack of of of
meaningful attachment to their duties
you know okay within a springboard yeah
if I could just build on what Rabbi tats
just said
um I had an epiphany over the last few
months mostly over the summer I brought
in someone in my shawl who works with
children at the Maine Children's
Hospital here in Toronto and studies
Neuroscience she was talking about the
adverse effects of screen time in
General on children that's including
devices and iPads and televisions and so
forth and she said her point was and it
really sort of lit a light bulb in my
head her point was that when children
are over exposed over stimulated on
sensory overload from all of these
screens that they're watching all the
time there's a part of their brain that
shuts down it's the part of the brain
that's in charge of imagination of
creativity
because if everything is is being fed
into the brain without the opportunity
to pause and to be pensive and to think
about ideas independently and to create
images in your own mind without this
external stimuli it it it it it creates
some positive things in the brain but
turns off other things that are very
dangerous and are counterproductive now
as it pertains to Judaism or any
religion I guess but we want to focus on
Torah and yiddishkite look what is our
belief our belief that there are two
realities there's the external reality
of what we call the Olam hagashmi of
this world that we perceive with our
senses and then there's a deeper reality
there's the Olam
a spiritual Dimension which includes God
and all of the other creations that God
created in this world which are
invisible including the the way that our
are Mitzvah performance and our prayers
interact with the cosmos these are all
things that if we don't have imagination
if everything that we connect with is
visceral and three-dimensional and
connected to our physical gashmi world
then how can we expect our children to
buy into it when that part of their mind
has not been cultivated
to me this is a very very direct reason
why screen time the successive screen
time is pulling our children away from
religious thought in general because
religion requires disconnecting from the
physical realities and connecting with
something higher and the screen time is
constantly bombarding our children with
the sole reality of this world
she she quoted a statistic that I just
wanted to share with you and then I'll
be quiet
um the Canadian Pediatric Society which
is very much in line with the American
Pediatric Society
understanding the um the the the serious
uh threat that screen time poses to our
children have said that any child under
two years old should not have any screen
time at all nothing no cartoons nothing
under two years old children two to five
should only be exposed to less than one
hour a day of screen time and children
older than five and ostensibly this
would I would assume include teenagers
as well should have not more than two
hours a day now our children if you go
there are apps that can tell you how
much how many hours a day our children
are on the screen that's two hours every
two and a half hours since we're lucky
it's unbelievable and and you know
correct me if I'm wrong but I I've been
told that that children go during their
lunch period during their recess period
and and they're they're using their
screens they're using their devices look
there are more and more schools across
the religious denominational spectrum
that have started to Outlaw smartphones
in schools and this really started in
many ways in a private school movement
you know take a look at Silicon Valley
and take a look at some of the most
expensive schools that exist there the
majority of them that I know of or that
I've been exposed to or I've seen have a
zero tolerance policy in which they do
not allow cell phones in their schools
these are some of the executives in the
companies who are making the most amount
of money off of these Technologies and
they don't want to send their own kids
to schools that allow cell phones in
school because of the impact that Robert
cropkin is recognizing it's a tool we
have that we can use possibly and that
is we are a culture that reads
and the difference in reading and screen
or television time is that as a rabbi
said when you look at this television
screen you don't need to imagine it's
all there for you you can't read without
engaging if you watch the television you
can zombie out and be perfectly happy if
you read in Zombie Art nothing goes in
you got to read it again and Shabbos is
a great opportunity for that because you
know for the kids are not using their
phones and travels if we can stimulate
them to read things and to engage in
their imagination uh you know there are
a couple of Cleveland Cleveland has a
printing you know this I think it's
called the most dose press have you seen
that Cleveland has a press that puts out
books for kids and teenagers secular
literature that has been vetted from a
thorough perspective all of it
calculated to be wholesome good
imagination driving you know so there is
literature you can give kids apart from
voluntaril Material as well so perhaps
we could put a bit of emphasis on that
yeah so I mean I think that many of us
that grew up with a TV in their home you
had to like there was a room with a TV
you have to Fat your siblings for what
was on the TV screen
and now just everyone has their own
screen and you don't even have to be in
your house so we get the ubiquitousness
of it it's a great challenge
um but I do want to take a jump off to
something uh a little bit different here
which is a a challenge that every every
parent has whether you're in the fifth
century or today but obviously it's a
little bit more challenged today I think
because kids feel that they're as we say
Amanda Amar like every 10 year old says
and every I remember telling my parents
I'm 15. I know everything like what do
you tell me what to do uh then Mom and
Dad I apologize for that I mean your
other children were worse I was the
better one right
um but just like to say like so
given now like as a principal as a
ibrahisham your parents as well what how
do you gauge uh balancing giving your
kids freedom freedom to make mistakes
freedom to do things that are
inappropriate versus following the rules
how does a school deal with that and
you're also a parent how do you deal
with that
it's different I would say I tend to uh
lean a little bit more towards the
authoritarian side of things in the
sense that I'm fundamentally a big
believer that when you have young kids
and this question as to what age that
ends there's a parent and a parent has
the requirement to set rules look I
regularly tell our parents in the
context of Shabbos that they should have
a technology draw and all technology
should go natural and it should be in
the kitchen or it should be in a public
area and all technology includes laptops
and cell phones should go in that draw
um on Friday afternoon and it doesn't
come out I tell parents regularly that
there should be no technology allowed
outside of the living room the dining
room main areas of the home
including you know adult children if
they're in the house and they're under
your roof these are rules these are
guidelines that you said I tell parents
that they should turn off their internet
at a certain hour of the evening and um
you know I don't know what percentage
necessarily heed this advice and we have
to remember in all of this and I think
this needs to be said at the outset we
can do everything right and in the end
of the day there's an incredible amount
of muscle there is no Playbook you don't
need a license to become a parent and
you can have all the right systems and
have everything thought out and all the
right strategies and the end of the day
how cold is and there's a lot of muscle
that goes into it but I think that kids
crave order kids in general expect a
certain amount of sensibility and
structure and they look for that and
they want that they love consistency
maybe I'll mention it later on but they
love when expectations and reality meet
up with each other when they match each
other that's something I see all the
time so I would say from my perspective
one should not be so concerned on giving
too much Freedom Early on it will come
there'll be plenty of time to give the
freedom as kids get older and what
should uh ER on the other side of the
coin as much as possible possible I was
supposed to go one two three two one
we'll go to our vitats and right back
we're up and write tats you know I also
personally tend to a more authoritarian
view I think it's good for children
um I think that one of the rules is that
one should say yes to whatever one can
you know Judaism and religion in general
is rather restrictive we always we've
got a lot of things we're not allowed to
do so and I learned this from my wife if
I may quote her that um
where you can say yes to little kids you
ought to but then when you say No it
should be very firm as well when you
draw the line I'd also like to add that
a framework of discipline is not only
good for children's characters also good
for their minds when you think about it
the truth is always Limited
falsehood is unlimited truth is limited
how many right answers are there to a
mathematical question one how many wrong
answers many you'd want which means that
a creative thinker needs to be a
discipline thinker and we're not talking
about a constrained thinker creative
thinkers can think outside the box and
break rules but always in paths that are
true
so when you set up children with a
framework of discipline in an organized
and structured environment it's good for
their behavior as you pointed out it's
also good for their minds
and it's a paradoxical fact maybe that
children accept that they need to be
rules that doesn't mean they like to
obey them when you're when your 14 year
old says you know about nine o'clock
it's my bedtime I think I'll go to bed
you'll take his temperature the kid's
got a fever you know not normal but they
know that there need to be rules when a
child says to you why are there Rules by
the time they ask you for
rationalization behind the rules it's
much too late right and the right answer
to that is not because it's religious or
because it's right the only answer you
can give it's my house when you get
married you can come to dinner without a
shirt in this house no shirt no dinner
whatever the rule is and that they can't
argue against so there are these are the
kinds of things you do and I'll add one
final thing if I may I think the parents
who are dealing with kids who are acting
out and difficult and all ages but
typically in the teenage years I think
it's a parent's obligation to
to assert all the discipline you can get
away with and wisely turn a blind eye
where you're not going to win so if
you've got a child doing something on
Shabbos in their room behind closed
doors whatever it is and insisting on
that all you do is lose Authority
but I think it's a it's a tragic error
to abdicate responsibility where you
where you can assert it so I say to
parents who having trouble trouble with
teenagers what you can get away with
this 13 you would definitely need to do
that just because you've lost some other
battles doesn't mean you have to lose
them all beyond what you can assert and
get away with you forced to turn a blind
eye because you're not going to one of
those battles anyway so it's a wise
decision you you need to make about
which battles are worth fighting which
ones are not worth fighting but the ones
that you can win that's where you put
your foot down and you have a voice of
authority and children look up to that
I would only add and I don't mean to
sound cliche-ish but King Solomon said
rlp darco
that every child is unique my wife and I
have been blessed with a number of
children and it's uncanny how different
each child is from the other
um there is no one fast and steady rule
that we can apply to each and every
child there are some children who are
simply born with a rebellious streak
that the more we try to confine them the
more they will Rebel there are other
children who very much are parent
Pleasers and Authority Pleasers and they
want to do the right thing and we deal
with each child a different way we're
going to be reading very shortly parshus
told us where yitzhaken Rifka have two
very different boys they have a yaakov
and they have an ace of two very very
different kinds of children and I don't
know necessarily that the Torah is
trying to tell us to learn parenting
lessons from Yitzhak or Rifka or both or
a combination but certainly the way that
Yitzhak dealt with asev was completely
different from the way that he dealt
with the more cerebral and Gent teal
yaakov and it it could have that story
could be an indicator that no matter how
much we try to work with our children
who are born with that very very
um aggressive streak we can only do our
best to try and lead them in the right
direction not necessarily succeeding and
getting getting them to learn 10 years
um in in collo but at least getting them
to become the great Community leaders
that they are supposed to be that that's
just I think that's really just the most
important messages our children our
unique nishamas and we have to assess
them as they are husham and try to Cull
the wisdom from our own parents from our
peers in treating each one as a unique
individual
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this sort of thing doesn't happen by us
not in our community
what you're describing just doesn't take
place in this community
this type of behavior absolutely does
not exist in our school
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you must be mistaken that sort of thing
doesn't happen here
something like that would never happen
in a school like this
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it just can't be it's just not possible
I've known him for 15 years and he would
never do that if he's been with us for
so many years why only now did this come
up we need 100 Proof he has a family
children to marry off he's done so much
good this could ruin his life we don't
air our Dirty Laundry to the world let's
not bring the police into this she's
obviously a troubled young lady must be
a misunderstanding she must have made a
mistake she's confused she's lying it's
probably Bad Blood other troubled kids
have tried making out but he was never
charged I don't need to keep this quiet
so we don't hurt the reputation of the
shul school Community what if it's not
he can't ruin his life we have
undeniable I really don't think he's
maybe it was a bit inappropriate there
was no way
I'm not saying he's for her own issues
probably protecting the real abuser
I'm sorry I can't help you
there's nothing I can do
I can't
I'm sorry
this just doesn't happen in our
community
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I have some adult children I think we
all do and I noticed that some of my
children raise their children very
differently from the way that my wife
and I raised ours and of course as a
grandparent you have to you know keep
your mouth shut that's the rule of
grandparenting you get to enjoy them
without the work but the price you pay
is you can't say a word and I respect
that but sometimes I'm puzzled by the
way that I see my adult children
negotiating with their children to do
the right thing and I sometimes in my
own mind find myself questioning whether
that's the right way because as both
Rabbi tats and Rabbi grower pointed out
our children are hungry for structure
and if we don't provide it for them they
act out in ways that they normally
wouldn't so that's just something else
to keep in mind so I'd like to add that
when we talk about discipline we also
continue to talk about the love as well
you know that the turmeric formula for
education is a very strong left hand and
a very strong right hand
who was our teacher in this really who
incidentally happened to be childless
but when we asked him once about how he
became such an authority in child racing
he said he did have experience how his
parents raised him although he never the
opportunity to do that with his own
children and his teaching was you need
an extreme expression of love an extreme
expression of discipline
and extreme is really extreme I'll tell
you a brief story about him which is not
for our viewers not for Our Generation
but it sets a certain tone he said there
was a rule in his parents home's home
that if a child asked for something they
did not get it
I once asked him now why they have a
rule like that he said we didn't have
you know it was very poor we didn't have
parents needed us to know that if we
have you'll get if we don't you don't
but he told it to us in a discussion of
discipline so I know it had its own
value and he told us that one day his
mother came through the door he talking
about baranovic back in that generation
his little brother David was four years
old only the only two of them had
survived the war his mother walked in
through the door with a little honey and
in Eastern Europe you know that there
were no candies there was a tremendous
delicacy at age four the child knew that
if he asked for some he wouldn't get it
so he drew a chair up to the table said
I made a loud broker
and his mother went to the kitchen and
brought him a glass of water
you know a modern parent would melt in
you know emotion but you know and they
turned out the people they turned out we
can't do that to our children but we can
do the equivalent at the level we
capable of look along the lines though
of what you're saying in the context of
parents negotiating with teenagers a
colleague of mine who's the principal of
an elementary school shared with me last
year that they happen to have overheard
an incident in which a mother brought
their little kindergarten to school to
look at the classroom to look at the
school and then they walked over in the
corner and they turned the mother this
principal heard the mother turn into the
little kid and said so now remember two
days ago you went to this school
yesterday was this school today you're
here which one of the three do you like
the best okay and it's a crazy story but
it was a true story basically the mother
was turning to this kindergarten and
asking the child which one did you like
the best which toys were the nicest
which colors are the best again I don't
know what ended up happening in the
context of the choice that was made but
it could be a bit ridiculous well there
is what to be said about empowering
children and giving them the sense that
perhaps they are in control of their
Destiny but it has to be done as you say
within reason I want to throw a
curveball question here as we're on the
sort of topic to just
if one or all of you can answer this
question how do you deal with the fact
that okay now you have a kid that's
your 10 year old your 12 year old and
you're giving your 10 year old just a
lot more privileges because that kid
needs it and then the the immediate
older kid and the media younger kid sees
that hey it's not fair you know I I have
to go I have to do that by 11 my younger
kid my younger sibling is has Netflix in
the house and has gone to about three
o'clock in the morning so how do you
educate one kid when the other kids feel
it's not fair this is to me uh the
toughest thing to do as a parent so I'd
like to hear what you guys have to say
about that because I have no clue well
there is there is this running joke that
the oldest child has dealt with the most
severely as you said and then as we get
more gray hair we get we get more
fatigue decently we're tired of running
and we we as parents
start to slow down and be more
permissive with our children as time
goes on we have to check ourselves you
know with age not only becomes you know
we become not as necessarily as
physically active but we're supposed to
become wiser as well
um one of the things that's so important
is to learn from older people how to use
the power of our speech to be persuasive
to our children
um younger parents who are inexperienced
might Resort too readily to a little
potion that took us using some corporal
punishment and
an older parent
can sometimes have the wisdom to know
that the right words
and the right inflection
placed at the right time
can actually accomplish more than any
kind of physical
patch that we might give our children
your point yeah so let's say you're 15
year old you let your 15 year old go to
a co-ed Camp let's say that's not your
Vibe at the home but that's what this
kid needs or you let your 15 year old
have no curfew and your 13 year old and
your 17 year old are aghast and they're
like why can't we do that
well if they're polishing to do it then
maybe there's something to discuss with
them usually what happens is that each
child at least that's my experience is
on a different place religiously you
know one child may be really a masmid
and is really getting into the learning
and you say it's not got nothing to do
with co-ed or not co-ed but I want you
to go to a camp where there's going to
be learning a couple of hours every day
because that's what you can handle and
you make that child feel privileged that
they're going to a more serious kind of
camp where they where they're learning
more and and this child you know that's
best for for that child if the child
gives you a hard time I think that may
be an indication that they're trying to
test the waters to see how far you'll go
but you can always turn that decision
into something which demonstrates to the
child that you have such respect for
them in their abilities that that's why
you've chosen that path for them
there is something you can say to
children and that is that when kids say
why don't I get the same as somebody
else you can say we don't give all
children in this home the same we give
each one what he or she needs Hashem
deals with us that way he doesn't give
us all the same he gives us each what we
need it's easier when the older ones get
the more privileges because then it's
more logical as well but when an older
one has a bedtime that's different than
a younger one and they say well I don't
have the same you say
he or she is that age it's appropriate
for them you get what you need when you
be that old you'll get that too so the
the ideology I think I scoffer behind it
is not to say you all get the same but
each one gets what they need it's a very
cogent argument to young people
you want to close on that look I'll add
two thoughts number one you need to uh
to Daven and say to Helen
um in these situations in the sense that
um I know it sounds somewhat cliche but
these are really challenging questions
and situations to be in and you could do
all of that and um it could work
wonderfully sometimes not sometimes it's
worthwhile to seek advice from a
professional from a therapist or from a
rabbi or from someone who maybe has
dealt with these types of situations
there are certain instances in which a
professional will tell you you know what
you should be open and honest with your
13 or 11 year old and you should tell
them that so and so is having certain
challenges and as a result we're doing
certain things and there are other
situations where the professionals will
say under no circumstance should you do
that at all and they'll guide in
different direction it's really hard to
give instructions in a theoretical case
but um these are some of the challenges
that exist in parenting and I don't
think it's any easy one okay thank God I
have my wife take care of everything I
did nothing okay so we're after the last
question
um and then we'll call it an evening
um okay so I think that's something we
all struggle with uh giving meaningful
Yiddish guide competing with the noise
and the thought pollution of the world
it's like uh that is what we want we
want our kids to love Hashem and love to
our mitzos and they're competing against
a lot so I have a crop can I write tests
and everybody Graphics are closed
I recently had a congregant come over to
me and say you know one of the problems
that I have in perhaps more of the the
the the the the Orthodox rules that
aren't so yeshivish is that you know no
one's giving Musser I want someone to
slap me across the face once in a while
and tell me what I have to do
uh and I said I think yeah so yeah he
thought that maybe I was uh intimidated
because of the politics of the board and
I shouldn't give too much Musser I said
believe me the show will be doing me a
favor I can make Aliyah tomorrow I'd be
a happy man the issue is that today's
generation I speak only for what I'm
observing in today's generation need a
tremendous amount of love
as Rabbi tits talked about in a prior
generation with rep simcha and his
parents there was there was one Derek it
was a little there was austerity in the
in the world not just in the Jewish
world and there was one mahalak there
was one way of of raising children in
today's world where Society is so
permissive and so permeated with the
message of empowerment
um we just have to reinforce how much we
love our children I love you I love you
I love you and that's why you have to do
X
and
um making sure that our children know
that they are loved and at the same time
and that they and that we respect their
great abilities that we hold them in
very high regard and at the same time
using that as the as the foundation for
why they need to comply with certain
things in their lives so that they will
become the people they're destined to
become I think that has to be the
overarching message now for each parent
and for each circumstance that's going
to vary but that sort of basic structure
is I think what our children need most
uh two quick points I'd like to make one
is before the Yiddish card needs to be
integrated happy thriving kids you know
the kids who are pushed on a Jewish
level but they're not functional on a
personal level everything goes
eventually you can't build healthy
Yiddish gods and learning on a
frustrated and fractured personality so
it and and when a child is struggling
that's the dimension that needs to be
addressed first when they're thriving
happy wanting to go to school wanting to
learn the Judaism will probably follow
so that's very important to remember and
second thing is that Judaism needs to be
taught creatively so that when you're
giving your Malaysia for example to boys
who let's face it why should they be
interested you know there's Sports out
there there's glitzy glamorous stuff why
should they be interested in old dusty
you know hundreds and thousands of years
of technical you know legal niceties
when you're 13 it's not natural
so the teacher needs to be creative you
know riddles and cool things that they
you know be bribe them if necessary
what's wrong with little bribery you
know prizes and um the other teacher has
to have some you know cool challenges
here's the question during the next
class you'll find discover the answer to
that there's a price for doing it yeah
be creative you know to to engage them
so if they are drawn by the media which
are professionally engaging we need to
be professionally engaging too
and it's just not good enough to use the
old dry you know religiosity you know it
sounds trite and we just got to do
better than that so you know it's a good
time to plug Torah live my friends are
amazing app yeah
you know totally have good stuff yeah uh
first of all it is an incredible cover
to be with both of you and uh a big
thank you to Beyond this uh
distinguished panel it really is an
honor
um I would say three things first of all
I agree so much or attached that it
social emotional well-being mental
Wellness mental health is Paramount and
that has to be looked after first and
foremost and I also agree incredibly
that we need to make Judaism
enticing for our kids I had a review of
mine who once said
and uh the idea was that you need to
figure out a way to get to kids but I'm
also a huge believer that we need to
make it compelling I'm a big believer in
shabbatons in Singing in dancing and
adding
to the experiential aspects to learning
trying to have as many of those as
possible kids have to enjoy it kids have
to love it the love is obviously
essential but don't forget me
and as kids are engaged in these healthy
activities and as we're able to provide
healthy outlets for them that are Kosher
and that are exciting they're going to
get into it more right the you know
you have to acculturate these positive
actions as much as possible and frankly
schools need to work with jewels and
need to work with parents in that regard
I'll share just one last anecdote I had
a parent in my office a few weeks ago
who was complaining a little bit about
the fact that uh her son doesn't go to
uh to minion uh on you know days when
there's a vacation days where there's no
school and I know where we know each
other a member of your show but that's
okay but I I said no no I said to her I
said listen I said we both know that
your husband doesn't go to Minyan I said
it's not a secret we know that and she
says to me yes Rabbi but that's why I
sent him to archaim that's the reason I
sent him to Yeshiva because I wanted him
to go to Minya and I said listen I wish
we could do that all the time I wish we
could solve for that it's just not that
simple so you have all of these pieces
that come together and ultimately that's
what you have to do to sort of overcome
a little bit a small piece of the noise
and then you need a lot of muscle you
need a lot of muzzle throughout because
ultimately that uh that's an essential
part of it but your message though is is
that parents should not think that the
Yeshiva is the Panacea is the Magic
Bullet that's going to cure everything
we are partners with our parents our the
schools and the shules are partners and
if any one of those parties is not
willing to be an active partner it's not
going to work schools are not spiritual
hospitals just doesn't work that way
right you know they play a key role a
key component but how the value would be
that simple right I want to end off with
the I
I was the Guild of a game show host so
we're going to end off with just a
question sort of answer the question
because
the world is great Hashem loves us
Hashem loves the Jewish people so I'm
going to start off a sentence and then
I'm going to Easter the three rabbis
finish the sentence and no this has not
been pre-planned so they're actually
very nervous right now they're like
Robbie putting me on the spot okay okay
so we're gonna rub my tat Robert kravkin
and Rabbi Greer okay
we're gonna end off with this teenagers
are amazing because
Rabbi tats because they're fresh in the
world
because they're discovering themselves
and finding out what it means to be an
adult
because they push us all to be great
people and to up our game in order to be
able to figure out how to help them to
succeed and how to help them to become
incredible adults amazing
thank you so much for joining us amudim
please support a great organization
helping really everyone and you don't
really know about it because they do it
privately so thank you so much for
joining us and everyone should have a
great evening thank you thank you thank
you thank you
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Goodman I am so glad to be able to spend
time with everybody today and also
introduce you to my dear friend Eddie
Curry I remember one story in practice
uh when I was playing for Coach David
Blatt who ended up coaching the
Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA he one
time shouted out in basketball he said
basketball is 90 mental 10 physical so
uh coming from the basketball space we
focus a lot on on mental toughness and
mental health and we're so grateful
today that we could learn from
from a very very special person and
player Eddie Curry
um Eddie uh and Patrice his his dear
wife were in Israel this summer and we
got to spend some great time and to get
really close
um and um so Eddie you know amadim is uh
is an unbelievable organization that
works Around the Clock serving thousands
of people uh helping them with any
mental health challenges that that they
make May encounter
um regardless of who they are what time
of day it is they're always there for
them so uh thank you for your time and
uh hopefully being able to to share your
expertise and knowledge with with people
that we could all gain from it so um
thank you so much Eddie we're glad to
have you no thanks for having me um what
an incredible cause just an incredible
uh platform that that you guys have
um I've never heard of anything so so
like so good honestly uh you know you
you see uh
little blurbs here and there when you
watch the TV or when you when you're
looking at something on social media
that they think might trigger something
and they're like okay if you have a
problem you know dial this number
um but I think what you guys are doing
is much more just active and much more
just just being able to reach out to
someone 24 7 man and and just uh no
matter who you are and what you got
going on man I think that that's that's
so crucial because I mean mental health
doesn't come with like a schedule you
never know when when when something
might grab you and something might just
take over your mind and things might get
kind of dark for you so I think that the
fact that you guys are always available
the fact that this type of
um engagement is able to to take place
man I think that that's incredible and I
I'm just proud and happy to be a part of
it
uh thank you so much and we're glad to
be able to spend some time with you you
know Eddie it's it's almost impossible
to make it to the NBA it's like less
than one percent of the people in the
world and
um you have had such an incredible
journey uh can we start off where you
share a little bit about you know your
early days of basketball and maybe some
of the mental challenges that that you
may have to go through at such a young
age because already in high school you
were world famous everybody you know I
remember going to Envy NBA camp and and
everybody there was talking about you
and just at such a young age um maybe
talk to us a little bit about your
basketball background and and early on
like mentally how hard was that you know
going from high school straight to the
NBA yeah uh for me I think uh going from
high school to the NBA
I think around the time NBA Camp
happened
um I think a lot of the hard stuff the
mental stuff kind of was already
I was so focused on basketball I really
wasn't even paying attention to the
mental part I think all of the mental
stuff happened before that and then
while I was in the NBA
um during that brief time that you saw
me I was kind of on cruise control and I
was kind of caught up in the I want to
be the best and I want to do this and do
that and I had started I started to
actually see the fruits of my labor I
started to see you know
um a payoff from carrying my basketball
around as a kid everywhere I went
um choosing to not join the gang when
all the gang members were were getting
together and doing knucklehead stuff I
started to see the payoff of you know
missing birthdays and missing certain
holidays because I got basketball
tournaments and this and that
um but as a as a child I didn't
understand that you know I'm as a kid
you think instant gratification you
think hey my birthday is coming up I get
a gift Christmas is here I get a gift
um if I do good Mom can I get some shoes
um I didn't have those type of parents
where I you know I I had the best of
everything I was always taller than
everybody so now I was a super tall kid
at school I didn't have good clothes
didn't have good shoes and I went to I
went to a school I lived in the
neighborhood where those type of things
matter to the kids that were around you
would get labeled as being a bum or
being being labeled as being just an
uncool person because you didn't have
what everyone else had so on top of not
having everything that everyone had I
mean I would go to school so I would
just try to disappear so much so that
I found myself walking like almost
hunched over I was trying to be the same
size as everybody else and I'm head and
shoulders above everyone you know by
fifth or sixth grade I was taller than
all the teachers I was talking to all
the students and I'm the biggest kid in
school and I'm walking like a hunchback
because I really don't want to stand out
um to the point where even when you know
by the time seventh grade sixth seventh
grade rolled around I got to Middle
School
um I didn't even want to play basketball
I'm like no it's too it's just too much
it was too much for me and and thank God
I had the kind of parents that were like
no you're going to play basketball you
know you're going to find something to
do because they saw of course they
didn't look at it as like uh oh this is
gonna get you to the NBA because like
you said man that's like so far fetched
that's so far out of like that's like
okay I'm gonna go play the lottery one
time and hit the lottery it's like that
and it's like for them for my parents it
was more so just I want you to start
feeling like normal I want you to walk
around and be able to you know hold your
shoulders hold your hold your head high
because you're around other tall people
and you start to see that it's not just
you out here and you can be in an
environment that that people actually
um um praise you so I think that's where
it all started for me I think my parents
did a great job at paying attention to
like kind of my feelings and what was
going on when it came to just my
self-esteem um they knew that they
couldn't do a lot for me in terms of Mom
I just I just want this new this or that
but when it came to I guess
just having a pulse on my feelings and
emotions for the most part
um my parents were were were really you
know spot on with it now they had their
own issues my you know my my dad and my
mom you know they would go back and
forth they were fighting arguing things
like that
um but in terms of yes me I think they
did all they could to make sure that
myself and my sister mentally you know
were in a good place and and I always
appreciated them for that because
um man I understand uh growing up as I
got older I realized you know where I
was from a lot of kids didn't have two
parents in the household you know so
both my parents come in the
parent-teacher conference or both my
parents come into the game like that was
a foreign thing most times you only saw
the single mother or you only saw a dad
you know it was it was it was pretty
cool and it was pretty impact impactful
for me to have both my parents so much
so that when I look at it today
um that's been my main focus throughout
everything is keeping my family together
as I went through my trials and
tribulations as I've done you know as I
as I've done like uh you know
self-destructive things in my
relationship
um things that would have ruined other
relationships that's why I'm so close to
my wife now because I realized she could
have been gone man and I and everything
that was so crucial and pivotal to me
growing up I could have taken that away
from my kids and so I always praise her
and I thank her for that but um but yeah
man I mean we can we can definitely get
into it I mean there's a lot of you know
being a kid man
it's tough because a lot of times you
spend you spend your time just like want
people to take your pain serious and I
think a lot of times what I find with my
own children is everything they're going
through listen I I I believe you I
believe you are feeling that but let me
tell let me try to let me try to help
you work through it let me try to tell
you what you can do to kind of manage
what you what you got going on and kind
of dictate
try to put you in a place to where you
don't have to keep you know going
through this through this because some
of what you're going through is
self-inflicted and as a child they don't
know that they don't realize that by
them choosing today to not do a project
that's due two weeks ago uh two weeks
later that you know
11 12 days from now you're going to be
hit with some of the craziest pressure
that you've ever felt because now you
got a dirty room because you haven't
been cleaning your room you haven't done
your project and now you got to cram and
do this project you slipping behind in
other classes and and you trying to
still put on this facade to us the
parents has like everything is okay and
I'm on top of everything and and and as
a kid who put everything off in school I
could tell you like that's some of the
worst anxiety I've ever felt going to
school knowing that I haven't like
studied for a test knowing that I
haven't done a project waking up that
morning like that's that's crazy now you
add that to all the other things that we
have going on today with social media
and just and how important images to
kids and I it's it's compounded and it
makes it even crazier so
um at this point
I I've always been the person uh even I
talked to my wife about it like look we
got to take we got to take them serious
if they said it hurting we gotta we
gotta believe them because they're
hurting they are hurting now if we look
at that problem and compare it to us
that it's not like the problems we have
where it's like okay how are we gonna
pay these bills how are we gonna do this
how we gonna do that but believe me it's
still affecting them the same way they
still feeling the same anxiety they're
still feeling the same things and I
think that a lot of kids man like I said
they don't have those type of parents
that understand that what they're
dealing with is a real thing it's a real
pain it's a real uh uncomfortable
feeling and a lot of times kids try to
unfortunately take the easy way out and
say you know what I'll do I'll do harm
to myself or I'll do enough things to
where maybe I'll do this and they'll see
that that I'm for real they'll see that
I'm I'm really feeling something and
that's just what I try to avoid with my
kids and luckily for for me like I said
I had basketball things did start
getting better for me in basketball as I
saw the more forward in basketball the
more positive things happen I started
getting free shoes I started getting
free Nike gear I started being able to
dress a lot better and honestly at that
point I didn't even care about dress no
more because I was so good at basketball
it didn't matter what I wore it was like
you know you I just it was different it
was a certain confidence that basketball
that that Sports gave me that I didn't
need the the physical things I already
had the physical gifts I didn't need the
clothes to go with it yeah and yeah
you're you know your heart is one of a
kind and the compassion you share for
for your kids and your family is just so
so amazing and
I'm always just so so amazed by by your
generosity and your care and you know
we've also spent some time you know for
Eddie's like for those of you watching
he's like seven foot well he's over
seven feet seven foot one and you know
it is you know people don't realize it
but it is very harmful it's like
everywhere we go together everyone
always comments not on you as a person
or your feelings or your emotions they
just comment on your height right away
they could have negative reactions or
different facial reactions when they see
you and you know it's it's very
um it is not always so welcoming and you
know you mentioned as a kid you were
purposely hunching over and so how did
you gather yourself at such a young age
to say like I'm gonna stop punching over
and pick myself up and and pursue
basketball you know like how did you get
that strength was it Inner Strength you
mentioned your parents did you meet a
good coach did you just start feeling
good on the court like like how can what
what advice can you share for someone
that might be going through something
similar where they have a hidden
blessing but they feel a little stuck
where there's other circumstances that
may be holding them back from pursuing
it you know how how can they how can
they jump over that fence
um for me I surrounded myself with
like-minded people
um I surrounded myself with the
basketball crowd I surrounded myself
with kids that were trying to do the
same thing I was doing they wanted to
try to find a gym they wanted to try to
find a hoop
um I met I became all my friends were
basketball players I didn't I didn't
gravitate toward the the other crowd
because I'm like that's not what I'm
trying to do I was I was focused
um it started like I said my mom and my
dad definitely uh appointed me at
basketball they're like look okay cool
um you tall your middle school has a
basketball team you know let's do that
um and then my my my a lot of my
basketball friends when school started
it was like it became like okay let's
everybody we're gonna try out for the
team and we're gonna try and make the
team and we're gonna try to you know
keep this team together from now and all
the way through high school and then
we're gonna all go to the league
together so it became like a group
mentality
almost like everyone just kind of had
the same goal everyone had the same goal
to try to to try to make it but it began
with like I said my parents pointing Me
In One Direction and also just having
like-minded friends
um of course the the fast life seemed
more attractive to me at the time they
had a little money and they had that
family feel to them um I didn't spend a
lot of time with my parents growing up
because my mom worked 24 hours a day
almost and my dad he drove trucks all
across the country a lot of times it was
just myself and my sister
um but my dad was always really
my dad and my dad's side of the family
like his mom my grandmother they were
really religious
um everything was uh church I took a lot
of time in church spent a lot of time in
Sunday school spent a lot of time
praying my mom only really listened to
uh gospel music and so we had a very
like I mean I had a I had a really good
mix I think of religion and real life
and um also like I said my mom and dad
were always there for me when I needed
them and they paid close attention to
how I was feeling
um I can't say that enough because I do
I do real I do think that if you don't
have that person something like what you
guys have
would have been great for me you know if
I didn't have my parents or something
like what you guys have would be great
for some of my friends who got who got
lost along the way who fell who fell
between the who fell you know and the
cracks because I'm sure other people
wanted to do what I did other people
wanted to hide a basketball friends but
some of that stuff some of the darkness
some of the distractions is right in
their house some of their parents were
selling drugs some of their sisters and
brothers were selling drugs and doing
different things so it was it was it was
closer to them and it was harder for
them to avoid for me
um you know I try to just stay on a
straight path I knew what I wanted to do
I didn't have any corruption in my house
I was lucky man I was lucky I was
blessed and I know for a fact that like
God wanted me to pull me I know for a
fact I couldn't have gotten through
certain situations without God I guess
there's no way around it there's just no
way around it you know you look at even
now when I look at how my life is
playing out is I just know it's God
because there's no way I couldn't have
done this my parents couldn't have got
me through once I once I left the house
it was all on me everything that's
happened since then I didn't I just been
winging it man I just been winging it
I've been praying a lot and I've been
just trying to just stay in tune with
just
really just trying to do the right thing
I just try to move with my heart I try
to do what God would want me to do and
um and I just pray a lot and I just hope
that I'm doing the right things to make
them happy
oh yeah you definitely are and um you
know that was two great pieces of advice
number one uh for everyone who's
listening that may be struggling
surround yourself with greatness you
know listen you know even if even if you
can't not everyone could be around
greatness like Eddie was saying like he
was found a group of players that were
all you know dream chasing and they were
positive and trying to find the gym and
find you know maybe not everyone could
get that opportunity but surround
yourself by greatness could also mean
you know listen to positive things
listen to positive podcasts lessons of
positive people that are successful um
listen to positive music you know learn
from people that are successful you know
just surround yourself put yourself in a
situation as much as possible to be
around as much greatness as possible
that was that was such a great piece of
advice and the other piece of advice is
Faith you know having a strong
relationship with God could definitely
help us overcome and and jump over that
bridge like we were talking about
earlier people often ask how we move on
after hearing a tragic story
or just a gut-wrenching abuse case and
the details of a family that's literally
falling apart at the seams due to
addiction or some other type of Mental
Health crisis and how do we move on from
that
the simple answer is
how do we not
sadly unfortunately
the reality is
that there are
far too many suffering from these types
of challenges and those that are
suffering Are Not Alone
so when we hang up the phone or finish a
meeting with one we have no other choice
but to help the next one because why
should one get help in the next night
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so you know you're lucky enough to have
an unbelievable High School career
legendary High School career in a
legendary area against an unbelievable
talent and then you know can you talk to
us a little bit about draft night you
know what it was like when they called
your name and you got to shake the
commissioner's hand and what what
training camp was like yeah uh okay so
draft night man I ain't gonna lie well
draft night was like uh by the time the
draft came I was so caught up in the I
want to be the best and I'm number one
I'm the number one player because like
this was before this was before uh you
know the internet and things like that
so I never met like the other top 10 or
whatever players I would see him in Camp
but by the time I would go to Camp I
would already know who was who and my my
people that were around me would be like
okay that's what they're saying is
number one that's who they're saying is
the best guard that's who they're saying
is okay now I know this now I know who I
gotta dominate right so I kept that once
I once I had that competitive like fire
in me and I'm like I want to be the best
quite naturally The Next Step was to try
to be the number one pick right so I'm
like I got to be the number one pick at
the time I didn't really care to be the
number one pick because I'm like
I wanted to be the number one pick but
if I wasn't I wasn't going to be mad
because I didn't necessarily want to go
play for MJ I had a I had a good
friendship with MJ at the time I had
known Michael Jordan since like
I don't know maybe like uh my sophomore
year in High School freshman year in
high school I've known Michael Jordan
um but
so I didn't I knew his personality
didn't quite like I didn't like how he
talked to me at times I'm like if I
played as a teammate of Michael Jordan
and I knew how he treated the other like
I just knew I mean you guys saw the
documentary probably so imagine how he
would have talked to a 17 18 year old
kid like come on man so I I was like you
know if I go there that'd be great uh
because I get to be a number one pick
out of high school like that would be
incredible but if I don't I really
wanted to go to the clippers because I
was very I was friends with with Darius
and I was friends with q and I'm like
those are my brothers man I played AAU
with them I love the youth and the
exuberance that they played with the
fire the passion like it almost was like
when you watch their games you didn't
care if they won or lost it was just