Amudim - Unite To Heal 3

[Music] uh hello everybody my name is Ay gari and and uh I feel privileged and honored to participate in this unite to heal event for amudim I am here with my brother I'm in New York I'm here with my brother mul gari Rabbi m gari in Australia first little something about me and why I'm here and then we'll talk about my brother just a little bit um unfortunately we tragically lost our daughter a year ago on December 22nd Zion Tavis and uh she had uh she struggled with um an eating disorder and depression and unfortunately she took her life a year ago she was 24 years old her name is y and uh as a result of that experience even before that since my daughter was so public about uh her struggles uh we were public as well our family and uh after her passing uh things intensified where I took on more of a activist role if you you if you want uh in the field of mental health so here we are talking to my brother RAB m gari in Sydney Australia uh my brother mul is the founder and director of Bina Bina in Sydney Australia which is a large organization dedicated to adult Jewish Education he was born in South Africa as I was and educated in the US and Australia he is a passionate educator and speaker he lectures on a wide range of topics with a special emphas on personal growth and self-development from a Jewish tourist perspective uh M can you tell us anything else about you that uh kind of work you're involved in anything that I left out background about yourself and your work in Australia well thank you first of all it's great to be interviewed by my own brother and I just want to acknowledge that the work that you've been doing over the last year and the context of your own painful Journey but with tremendous strength and also want to just say that it's just an honor to be part of the amudim event and the organization and thank them for inviting me to be part of this so yeah B started about 25 years ago and its main purpose was to um provide Jewish Education for the very broad spectrum of the Jewish Community here in Sydney but we've developed a stream over the years focusing specifically on personal growth character development which has evolved in so many different ways raising awareness um to do with issues to do with parenting and also helping people and educating people in the area of mental health and supporting them through their Journey which I suppose is what brings us here today all right thank you so let's get right into it um amudim is an organization that focuses on responding to a whole wide range of mental health issues what is your involvement in the area of mental health are you just a Rabbi just a Rabbi that helps out or are you a qualified counselor or therapist okay so I'm definitely not a qualified therapist I'm not a counselor I am just a Rabbi um a rabbi that enjoys and is involved and has read extensively on psychological issues but I I understand my role and my role is just is just a Rabbi but I do help many many people in a counseling capacity from a rabbi perspective uh never pretend to be a substitute for any critical and necessary intervention but helping people through their journey I believe that there's a puzzle and the puzzle has a number of different pieces to it um therapists parents medical professionals and so on and so forth but that puzzle I think needs to include a a RV a mashia a mentor however you want to describe it someone that's there to help and support people with a Torah perspective um and a Torah Outlook which I think is very very critical and I want to just say I suppose in our discussion now I'm going to share things from my perspective and my experience here in Sydney um I suspect that it's not very different around the world but I'm not that familiar what happens other places but I I can share a little bit of my experience here working with people over the last 20 25 years thank you uh next question so focusing specifically on your on your bck role what is the role of a rabbi in a mental health crisis or Challenge and how does that go together with regular therapy or other interventions and I want to just add to that um because it seems to be some kind of confusion in the fir world uh who does one go to First do you go to your Rabbi first do you go to a psychologist first you're a psychiatrist what is the role of the rabbi where does it start where does it stop let's talk about that just a little bit that's a great question so very often actually people do come to the rabbi first and that's my that's my experience particularly with people who I have a relationship with sorry do you think that's a good thing where should they go you tell me what they do actually do but where should they go first so I'm I'm not sure I'm just I'm just dealing with with with the reality and the fact is that sometimes they feel supported I think the field Rabbi is someone they can they're familiar with they comfortable with they feel safe with perhaps if they already have a relationship or they know someone that has a relationship with me for example and therefore they will very often often come sometimes not expecting that I will actually direct them somewhere else but um I will say sometimes people come to Rabbi thinking the rabbi is the last stop and they will be able to provide the solution which isn't which isn't the case they could certainly help they can be part of the journey but they won't be able to provide the solution um so let's just break it down a little bit if that's a okay so I think it's fair to say mental health is very very complex with so many different components that work together affecting each other and of of course every case is different now we know that sometimes there are purely physiological imbalance issues that require medical intervention sometimes there's deep emotional issues which require particular expertise particular qualifications professionals and also something that can be ongoing I don't I don't even even in a rabbi counseling position I I'll stay with a person throughout the journey but I don't off I don't often I don't offer I should say um ongoing counseling and nor as any R I think but nevertheless I think a Rob or a mentor mashia can be incredible helpful incredibly helpful on a number of levels so let me just give you a couple of examples first of all sometimes it's the authority that that that helps I'll give you an example just now I'm dealing with a family who clearly needs to go for grief counseling grief counseling that I cannot provide I don't have the expertise it needs to be someone that really is good and and it's a really serious situation but I now through a friend and and through this discussion they've agreed to go but only if they speak to me first and I will support them going to that form of form of of therapy so I'll I'll be in that position to direct them in the right direction right uh another example of where the rabbi comes in to the team and he's part of the journey is guidance sometimes you need to assure a family or a patient um where it's okay to be Mel okay to be lenient okay to do different things it might be uh yum ker with eating disorders it might be not doing certain Mitzvah when it comes to disorders right sorry needing disorders as well needing disorders when exactly um it might be um not doing certain mitzah when it comes to Obsession OCD for example and and part of that direction is not just giving theak but it's also supporting him and removing the guilt and removing the uh the uncertainty about you know what what'll happen if I do this and and and and is are you sure it's okay and things like that and sometimes the therapists are not able to do that because they don't have theic or Spiritual Authority where they of can um I think also most importantly probably is that the the rabbi needs to needs to create a partnership I think a partnership with the therapist the parents a partnership with the rest of the team and that partnership affects many different areas for example culture right often especially here in we don't have a lot of religious therapists for example often therapist doesn't understand the culture of the family doesn't understand the values of the family um just recently I dealt with a case to give you an example which for me it was clear that it was an against Torah values where someone was having um someone who's married having problems with their parents you know realizing that the parents sort of didn't provide the right positive parenting that they would have wished for and so on and so forth and there was tension and conflict and the therapists very much in line with a lot of modern society sort of perspective was guiding the this particular woman on breaking off ties with her parents or putting very strict conditions with with with her mother and and if they don't keep those conditions coming around come come completely which I'm completely convinced that that's against Terra it's against her values and it's and it's completely unhealthy and you them and I tell them and I will tell them and I will continue to tell them that I think that now there can be boundaries there can be modified relationship and so on and so forth depending on the case but it's not healthy for them and it's not healthy for their own children and and sometimes what will happen is that their own children will respond to them the way they're responding to their parents and and therefore that's kind of the cultural or religious perspective that the rabbi can bring to the team if they're working together with the therapist with or with the counselor um the role of the rabbi also is O General overw overall sorry overall overall well-being um including just bringing in a ristic a spiritual component to the to to the the whole journey you seem to be describing a utopian process the way it should be what the what the uh contribution of the rabbi is and the contribution of the therapist what if there's resistance what if the patient decides um either you right and they wrong both both of these scenarios are not good scenarios so for example they'll they'll only take your advice as opposed to the therapist or they'll say to you the therapist is right and you wrong uh is there a point where you kind of get off the bus and you say I no longer take responsibility retically uh in this case and we have to part where at this point yeah sometimes so what so what I will often do is if I really feel that a person needs the assistance and the support of a professional I will be very clear that my role is limited and I'm not prepared I mean I'm always prepared to talk to a person I'm always prepared to be nice to a person and support them but I'll be very clear about the support that I can and cannot give and if I think it's particularly in cases where it's physically or emotionally or psychologically dangerous I'll be very clear either to the person or their family that my responsibility ends because I'm not prepared to support through a process if the team isn't complete and what I will often encourage people to do is to actually give permission to a professional to talk to me so that it can actually create a team and I've often had discussions with with therapists on on the phone about a particular case with permission of course because that's the laws and so on but um we're we're creating that team and respect mutual respect for each other becomes very beneficial so just to give you like another example of a ro I think you know sometimes it's very important for a also to add together with the Journey of therapy or professional intervention that sort of ristic meaningful aspect as a support and to get advice by the way the the relationship is mutual it's not only I tell the therapists what the culture is they tell me also what is what is beneficial and what isn't beneficial right so that I know the limitations of my role but having said that so just to share with you AO often what happens is people let go of toxic stuff or they let go of stuff that they've been involved in but then what they create a vacuum and that vacuum could attract other negative things so there has to be that sort of synthesis there has to be that combination and often the role of the r is to the role of the therapist is to help the person let go of of toxicity but what is it going to be filled with what what's that void going to be filled with and maybe sometimes that's the role of the Rob and that that sort of combination is very important you know in the writings of the who wrote extensively um in response to people who sought advice for emotional turmoil or anxiety or or other mental health issues um and when it was mild would give spiritual advice but very often in letters Reb would uh advise people to seek seek advice and seek intervention Reb would always create this like combination between three things one was seeking professional advice and and following the doctor's orders and following the therapist orders and so on and so forth the other was purely spiritual support like checking a muuza or increasing in kashus or whatever the the case was and then often it was also about studying and and engaging in in meaningful meaningful things like prad or strengthening or and things like that so there's that partnership which we find on many levels which is so important thank you um mental health illness and challenges seem to be on their in the last number of decades I can tell you that uh I researched this after passed away that the suicide rate is actually you know documented uh I think since 200 and and four like last 16 15 16 years have gone up about 60% in young adults mostly women um is this just a fact of life can it be slowed down or prevented in other words is prevention even a possibility let me just add to that that um we have to treat mental health in its acute and chronic stages at the same time we have to prevent the very kind of lifestyle choices or Life Choices that people make that may perhaps bring uh to these uh you know present with these problems uh you're correct what you said earlier that there's also a possibility of some chemical things going on but let's say there's environmental issues uh so what's more important prevention or cure or both uh and are we giving enough I I I think that we're not giving enough attention to prevention uh in the very early stages of life and we could even go before that uh parenting before you even have a child maybe you know someone should each each couple should should go for training and how to be a good parent so let's speak about that a little bit so yeah there's a lot of different aspects of your question but I first of all I have to agree with you I think I think the world is amazing um in response to crisis there are so many different organizations responding to crisis trying to fix crisis trying to intervene into crisis and so on and so forth and not nearly enough or not nearly enough thought or resources or thinking is given to prevention so I don't claim to be an expert but let me tell you what I've discussed with others and sort of my perspective on the whole concept of prevention so first of all just to Echo and just to emphasize the point that you made that I referenced earlier I like to look at this as to give an analogy of physical illness right physical illness unfortunately for ways that we don't understand we don't always understand the ways of Hashem can strike anything anyone can die from a heart attack God forbid anyone can die from cancer no matter how fit or healthy they they might be right however the does tell us one should live in a healthy way because we know that although it's not always preventable although it's not always possible and to prevent illness and illness can strike any family any environment any stage of a person's life and so on and so forth but we do know that living a healthy life minimizes risk of of physical illness right um if you live a healthy life you less you know if you eat healthy or you do exercise you're less likely to get a heart attack simply simply put doesn't guarantee but it's less likely so I think the same is with mental illness I think that as you say sometimes it's a pure pure illness that could be genetic it could be given by God in in whatever way whatever form whatever context and whatever you do in the best family the best environment the best resource the best education it will still strike but having said that there are ways to live healthy and there are ways definitely to prevent and I think there's many things happening in our society today that is exacerbating and definitely contributing to the increase of mental illness anxiety depression and so many other forms of illness one of the people who I like listening to who I would consider and I've spoken to many times or I consider somewhat of a mentor and I hope he doesn't mind me saying that is Dr pelovitz and there's an expression that he uses that I've used many times when he talks about depression he talks about depression with a small D or depression with a big D um and I've kind of extended that to anxiety like anxiety with a small a oriet with a big a what then means is with a big T tra with a big T trauma with a small T exactly so the difference between these things on the small letters or big letters is that depression with a big D or trauma with a big T or or anxiety with a big a means that it's it's bad enough and it's clinical and it's really sort of out of the control of the person and the person needs support right it's not that a person has a choice anymore so much they have a choice to get help but they don't have a choice to help themselves they need other people to support their help however very often the two get blurred a little bit and very often every person I would say or lots of people most people go through stages of their life where there's a least depression with a small D or anxiety with a small a I mean we're Jewish right we anxiety is part of our DNA um we worry a lot and so on and so forth or we suffer a little bit of trauma or people looked at us the wrong way and so on and so forth and I think sometimes we lack the skill or our children lack the skill to deal with the stuff on the small D or the small a or the small te and if we don't deal with it properly what can happen is I think it can evolve into the Big D and the big a where it's a bit late already where it needs a whole another response and a whole another intervention and and and then it's already a response to a crisis so I think what we do need to do is we do need to put a lot of effort and I think particularly when our children are young to build strong people right part of that is building a healthy mind we know that you know particularly a lot of modern psychology a lot of positive psychology for example is very much based on the way the Mind interprets what is happening around us um you know cognitive behavior therapies based on there a lot of therapies are based on using the positivity of the mind or using reframing or using the way we interpret the mind to control the way we feel so mental weakness or or mental struggle often happens in the heart me in other words it's more emotional than cognitive but nevertheless it is driven by cognition is driven by the way we think now although this is very much a part of modern positive psychology but it's an old Torah concept uh the book of tan for example is is completely based on the simple principle of that the brain rules the heart the way we think will determine ultimately or at least influence the way we feel so I think we know that uh uh building a strong mind is is so important I just recently I I do a personal growth class every Thursday and I do it in series of six weeks and recently I just gave a series based on a secular book called 13 things mentally strong people don't do um and it's all about the mind it's all about the perception it's all about your perspective it's all about the way you think about what people have done what people have said the what the reason things have happened the reason things have happened to you the reason the way you you respond to them and and so on and so forth so I think prevention has a lot to do with how we yes how we bring up children really um with the proper values the Torah values building strong to put it in summary building strong Minds building people who are Mally strong to be able to deal with challenge to emotion that comes later on will it always help of course not but I think a lot of it can be done which could then definitely slow it down if it's done in the right way with the right perspective with the right values so let's uh talk a couple of examples uh because this might be easier I would think on the surface to talk to a teenager or a young adult you know explain about and so on but there have to be subtle uh for instances in very young children um four or five years old let's talk about a couple of examples that are not good as a parent and conversely what is a positive parenting step okay so I think at every age of at every stage of parenting this will manifest itself in a different way right but I think we also know that the formative years of a person is critical that's when we shape the minds and the perspectives of our children mod education will tell us also that the impact of children even before they born has an effect on what will happen later so I think we probably need to raise awareness and talk more about how parents are building the minds and the hearts of children from a very very young age in a Torah context to summarize it I think we need to help people or raise awareness with people and give them the ability as parents and as Educators not just parents but teachers as well to build let me just summarize this I think to build strong healthy resilient children who will pursue meaning and purpose in their life right now let's just summarize how that happens I think I mean there's not one answer for every question but this is the way I like to look at it um there are two things that will do this as parents and as Educators right and these two things unfortunately people often view as being two opposite Concepts and or mutually exclusive and they're not they're actually critically important to be and to work together um and I'm going to use a sort of a cabalistic formula um which which talks about the the the primary emotions of a person and I'm going to use two words which are need to clarify and explain the two words are and which are often misunder mistranslated as kindness and or or which is which is often translated as harshness or or severity which is not true what I mean by is is the whole concept of love and acceptance where G is the concept of firmness or assertiveness right so the truth sorry or accountability or accountability right so the truth is this these two concepts are actually critical in all relationships right even even in marriage for example right we know that love is the glue of relationships but respect which often actually is a gur idea which means it's holding back giving the person space creating boundaries what is okay to say what is not okay to say which much more of a gur thing is is also important that that's a gur concept and that's important all relationships but when it comes to Parenting however you know I always say that parenting and it's important for parents to understand this when you start parenting it's actually not just about your children it's about a new critical stage in your own personal growth because when you parent you suddenly realize or perhaps or you should realize or hopefully will realize that parenting needs parents to have two opposite emotional approaches working at the same time right which is difficult because most people have a disposition to one or the other so what I mean by that in summary is the following so first of all there's got to be and working together what I mean mean by that briefly is this means if you want to build strong children they need to grow up in a safe environment they need to grow up in a loving environment so there's got to be unconditional love unconditional love means whatever your child is going to do or be or say he or she remains your child it is your child that you have to just accept and love whatever happens you need to express that love we need to create a positive environment of of warmth of of calmness of Happiness of fun even we need to nurture the relationships with our children we need to accept the individuality of our children right that's the that that that will build each child in the own way every child is different we get to decide the values but they are each different from each other and we'll Express those values a bit differently um we need to build communication we need to build tolerance it needs to be open communication at the same time we need to give children the safety of having boundaries predictability um artic culated boundaries sometimes firmness sometimes even consequence all done in the context of warmth and respect and positivity but parents need to be able to parents to build strong to build strong children we know that if one of those two things are missing the parenting model falls apart the children do not feel safe I often tell parents the the children that find it that challenge the discipline the most are the one that actually craving for it children want structure children children want Direction children want values they just don't know how to articulate it they challenge it they they test it but they do want that right so those two concepts has to be that's as a foundation now what that does what that leads to what that needs to lead to is that has to be the vehicle that has to be the formula through which we teach values to our children I'm talking about particularly teror values many of which unfortunately go against modern Trends I'll give you a couple of examples right give an example for for a child that's years old that's a great question a child that's four years old so we live today in a very me world right use the uh a beautiful expression from Rabbi sex that we've mooved the society has moved away from we to me right and he says we have to reverse that um what Society has done is given people an amazing sense of entitlement we have we live in a generation of entitlement as we say in yish Al right that's that's the perspective now we need to give and showered our children with many things and love but the way we get rid of that sense of entit entitlement which is evil and bad and selfish and for sure and ultimately builds tremendous weakness and and and and unnecessary vulnerability because then as soon as as soon as I don't get what I want I fall apart it starts from four years old it starts from delay gratification it start starts from boundaries it starts with in a loving way it doesn't have to be in a strict harsh spirit way but it starts with training children that even are four years old you don't need to get whatever you want when you want right um and so on and so forth so that's a great example and that starts from a very very young age it starts from certain boundaries it starts from things again not handled down in a harsh way but there there certain things that are acceptable and certain things that aren't acceptable um things like control talking about and again this also starts from four years old maybe a child doesn't understand it on that level but as they get start to get older talking about the fact that we don't control everything talking about and and surrendering to AEM the things we say to children at three or four years old has an effect um as they get older training them and this this is a big one we we you know the we the me world that we live in also breeds a lot of victimhood I just want to share with you in Australia at the moment there was just recently a person passed away his name was Eddie jaku a holocaust Survivor he passed away um over a hundred he wrote a book um I think when he was 100 already or close to it he wrote a book called the happiest man on Earth he had this thing where he gave himself he crowned himself with the title of being the happiest man on Earth and um he wrote he wrote It's A Beautiful book and and and it's worth reading it's not a particularly Torah book but it's just it's just it's just an amazing story where he refused to walk he had gone through the Holocaust the horrors of the Holocaust and yet refused to hate refus to blame refus to be a victim essentially right he had every reason to be a victim legitimate reason to be a victim but nevertheless chose not to I I want to come back to the five-year-old please um because I think these are all very lofty uh academic Concepts but you know as the reab said that uh rash is for B MRA right that five- all can understand um or the Rashi right what Russia Russia Russ okay so these are all you know technical things that all make a lot of sense but how do you for example if you want to say no to a 5-year-old how can you say it in such a way that the 5-year-old will understand that it's for their own well-being and uh not because that not because the parent wants control but rather I'm saying no for your own wellbeing because I love you because I want you to be a good person how would a 5-year-old understand that I want this candy no you can't have it and here's why explain to a 5-year-old so my view is that not always you have to explain it's how you do it children have a different way of communication very young children maybe as they get older and they ask you why it's good to explain but I actually my parenting theory is that you don't always have to answer the question why but what you do have to do is your language your body language both your your explicit language and the way of your demeanor and this I'm coming back to the thing so when you say no like when you want to train a 5-year-old and we're using that example right but it's about the broader context of creating strength and self-control and and and and you know personal responsibility when you want to explain to a child that not everything you want now you have to get it's not about explaining it's about saying no you can't have it or or you could have it later but it's the way you say it it's if you say it with firmness and with love the child picks up on it they might cry they might even throw a tantrum and that's fine as long as you don't come down harsh as long as it doesn't become about you as soon as a as soon as a parent screams and shouts it's about them it's not about the child now we're not perfect we do that sometimes we all make mistakes that's fine but I'm talking about in theory right we we we we should say no and we should be parents and not be scared but we need to do it with love it should be not about us and not about what we want they're not about because this is good for us it's about the well-being of the child and children have amazing antennas even very young children who can't speak or can't understand long explanations they can pick up where it's coming from then they might always not smile and say yeah you're fantastic I know you mean my my well-being so of course I want have the candy now no they might actually throw a tantrum but doesn't matter it's a long-term effect as long as you as long as it's coming from the right place as long it's coming from your love I think this is the issue you see sometimes people parents know that they have to love and love and love and the way they understand that is that means I never say no I can't say no I can't be firm that's what I'm talking about other words that doesn't breed strong children that breeds entitled children right so so that's why that combin ation is so important it's so critical thank you that's well well answered thank you very much let's move on to a hot button hot button topic and uh because it's a hot button topic and uh I've read a lot about it and I've spoken to a lot of people struggle with it and thought about it a lot so you're going to forgive me if the uh the question is a little bit long-winded and this is the area of Technology um so here's my uh here's my rant um the the rabbit didn't like the uh concept of labels you know when it com when it comes to Jews you know reform Orthodox this and that and the other for for purposes of this discussion I'm going to use labels and I'm going to divide the Orthodox world into the ultra Orthodox and the modern Orthodox and it's my contention that the ultra Orthodox world has done themselves and more importantly the modern North Ro World a disservice by um the way they have presented the ills of the internet and electronic usage uh there was a a major Gathering some years ago called the internet aser and the discussion was really about OBS obscenities OBS material violence and so on you know the kind of material where religious boy or girl should not have access to and so on and in truth the more I think about it the Lost opportunity was that really has nothing to do with that or less to do with um being exposed to inappropriate material but rather it has to do with emotional well-being um you know especially with you know with girls and body image with you know uh the amount of time spent on on internet on electronics the lack of connection I want to mention one of my favorite books lost connections by Yan hurry and uh uh and the result was that they were kind of preaching to the choir because within the alter Orthodox uh group so those that were doing it anyways they kind of listened and they continued doing what they were supposed to do the rebels were W you know didn't listen in on the modern Orthodox on the flip side I know that even from the best best of Educators in school they said oh that's for the fmer that's for the uh but our our students our children who are 13 14 years old everyone can handle a smartphone um uh successfully and in truth it was not the case as I've observed uh in the years since I've been observing this um now although I've read a lot about some studies about this although there's not we talk about quation and correlation there's definitely uh a correlation between um between the ills of the internet electronic usage and mental health um I don't think the studies are conclusive about quation in other words it's not like a a a uh a scientific study that has been done that is can can you know definitively say we have mental health this is the reason internet there's obviously other reasons but whether the internet uh causes it we know there's correlation that we do know I'll I'll just end off this question by tell by telling you that I was interviewed for a for a documentary by a British uh psychotherapist by the name of Dr Raj pord told me the following and this is a both someone who's both a psychologist and a psychiatrist who told me he used the word dismiss that that young people up until the age of 25 he told me are unable to absorb that which is good from the internet and to dismiss that which is bad so I think uh this is uh we're in the throws of this right now we don't really kind of realize what uh what you know the ills that is doing to ourselves and to our young children as they as they grow up both in terms of access to inappropriate material um the lack of human connection and all the other things that go along with that so I think I think uh psychologists talk about this uh you know adium and uh uh we can go on and on about that but let's talk about this from a Torah perspective SL mental health uh what role does it play and what should we what is the messaging about internet electronic usage social media and so on okay that's a that's a huge question and I'm happy you bringing it up and I'm happy we talking about it I've personally um in the last number of years particularly started to talk about it a lot in my parenting sessions and dealing with again from a prevention perspective um dealing with parents and the usage of their children with technology um and I think you're right not I'm not doing it so much from a obviously it cont has a very big religious component to it but it's not just a religious component um it's much deeper than that much broader than that um we have a everyone lik talk about a pandemic today but you know now there's a new strain of the virus uh I'm in isolation now because I came from South Africa last week but uh there's a much bigger pandemic and that is the pandemic of I won't say technology but misuse of technology technology essentially is a good thing I can't really comment on the communities in America um and each one has their own hash and own ways of doing things but the way I the way I see it particularly dealing over here in Australia i' talked about it here in Sydney and in Melbourne particularly is the horse is bolted I mean 99.9% of families are all exposed to technology it's not a matter of should we have technology or not everyone has it everyone's exposed to it it's a matter now of managing it right now before before I address this question I want to just finish off the last question because it's going to be relevant to this question as well anyone that really wants to take seriously the strategies they use with their children is going to have a going to have to have a look at their own modeling as well right I mean it's just I mean I know it's a cliche but it's critical you simply cannot teach values unless you're prepared to make changes in your own life right it's a simple as simple as that and you know there's a a v that I once saw about the Kim on the on thees so the king we know had faces of children right and the Orin was made M was made out of one piece of gold which had difficulty with and had to show throw the or into fire and so on but explained that the Kim itself also was M also came from one piece of gold and the lesson behind that is that it's all one formula it's all one Journey parents and children have to become one journey and if parents want to take this seriously the well-being of their child the emotional well-being of the child and the religious well-being of the child and every other aspect of well-being of the child we have to also look at our own consistency our own authenticity our own mixed messages or Clarity of messages and our own modeling and things and our own behavior right which is true in all the things you mentioned before whether it's self-control or Indulgence or materialism Pursuit of pleasure whatever the casee might be but it's also particularly relevant to the area of technology and how it affects children there's a lot of resistance to con to confront this but the reality is that there's as you know yourself and as you've discovered over the last years you shared that with me many times and I know this from talking to lots of different people there's terrible stuff that is happening as a result of misuse of tech technology um and it needs to be addressed and the only way I think it can be addressed well I'm not talking about once the crisis is there because obviously then it's a different response but in terms of prevention we need to start very very young so let's just go through the the issues very briefly obviously this is a very long discussion but let's let's try and go through the issues very briefly and I'll share with you my perspective and what I've been telling parents right um the harm of technology is multiply layered it's not even about inappropriate material though it is about inappropriate material obviously it bring it brings a a there's a lot of pornography a much higher percentage there should be pornography addiction within the religious world that's a fact um some people don't like to notice it but it's there addiction to pornography is not a religious issue it's a functional issue people become dysfunctional from it people come depressed mental health is affected the whole relationships are are are harmed because they have a whole wared perception of what of what intimacy is supposed to look like there are so many different effects of so many different effects of of of of addiction or screen Addiction in general but pornography addiction in particular even if there's not even if there's not addiction overuse of screen is bad for people you know there are studies out there that the the the levels of empathy which empathy by the way is a critical component of any relationship has dropped dramatically there there's a a documented study which I saw one over Dr pel's books actually which is which is an amazing study of how levels of empathy has actually dropped since smartphones have come into being right because people have stopped noticing other people they're on their phones all the time they're on the screen all the time they don't have human interaction they don't communicate properly they don't they're not aware of what's going on around them they be they become very absorbed in their own bubble um warped realities of what things are supposed to look like like social media where you have distorted pictures and photoshopped images and and and very false images of what couples look like and what Bliss looks like and what happiness looks like where you know the couples that come I mean it's an amazing thing I mean I i' I use social media because I use it for my organization particularly and I've seen people post things where I've canceled those people I know what's going on behind closed doors and they create this image of being the most amazingly happy happy people on on on on screen creating Envy creating insecurity and it's just it's just it's just unbelievable so there's so so much harm and we very tempted particular from a very young age to use technology as a babysitter we put kidss in front of a screen often it's it's about because it's kosher it's okay it's Uncle Moshi videos uh it's it's it's this music it's that video excessive screen time is bad for you it's it's documented it's a terrible thing and then as they get older then of course becomes Much More Much More Much More Much more serious so I think again what I'm sharing with you is not a but I just think it's not spoken about enough that's why I'm I'm passionately speaking about it I think that the way to begin is with two things parents number one have to be parents and it's very difficult sometimes because you're up against a lot of social pressure everyone every parent will will know that the the fourth grader comes in and says why can't I have a SM burn every child in my class has one that's where it begins and and from there just evolves one thing leads to another so we have to number one be parents and be strong respectfully nicely positively but be strong most but more importantly is as children do become exposed to technology which is inevitable in most societies most PR societies even we need to begin to have conversations and those conversations with our children have to be multiple and often right and the conversations have to what you're saying is conceding that the it's here to stay to it but we have to have conversations and those conversations have to surround have to focus in two areas one is they have to be around the values that we hold dear in other words children as they get older they need to understand why it could be very dangerous for them that's that's that's important particularly as they get a bit older you know I said before their 5-year-olds don't need to know the reason for everything but as they get older nowadays particularly maybe it is important to have those conversations and to explain it even though they might not understand it properly but it's important to talk about values when you transmit any values really it's it's important to talk about it and talk about it with passion and talk about it repeatedly and those conversations have to be around guidelines and boundaries so I think as soon as you know as soon as you notice or even before you notice even before you this could be even after you notice that your child is too exposed to or you know too much on the phone or too much on on on on the iPad or too much on the laptop whatever the case is but maybe even more importantly before that happens we need to have conversations with our children that go something like this they have to be respectful calm conversations but but assertive things like we need to communicate things to children like I'm responsible for your well-being right things I ask you to do or I prevent you from doing you don't always like but it's for your well-being and I promise you I will never do something that's not in your interest right you need to acknowledge the children that temptation is normal right you know we it's a very important thing kids grow up and they have Temptation they have Temptation look at things they shouldn't look at they have temptation to engage in things they shouldn't engage in and that needs to be acknowledged and it's normal but as a parent my job is to guide you and my job is to ensure that you are engaging in safe Behavior here right um that takes time temp temptation is normal and the desire to engage is normal and the skill to engage positively and responsibly is is is important the analogy always give us a car I'm not going to give you my car to drive cars are very good things and they can do amazing and they can accomplish amazing things but when you're too young you don't have a license because because you're not responsible enough to drive properly same thing with tech technology technology is not bad it's a good thing we know that today in the Torah world the amount of Torah that is access ible I mean I use it in my own organization the amount of learning that that is done online and through technology is amazing but you have to have the skill to do it and that comes with age and it comes with maturity um so therefore you tell the child this is the conversation we're going to have and I want you to be part of the conversation and I want you to share your feelings but you need to know that I'm the parent and I'm going to make some of the decisions um and we're going to make some changes if it's already too you know if ready too much we're going to make some changes or we're going to set some guidelines now part of that conversation has to be about some of the you know some of the some of the um bful some of the weaknesses or some of the dam dangers of Technology but then we have to have conversations around boundaries and they have to be respectful um but they have to be assertive we shouldn't be scared we have to have conversations with empathy we have to acknowledge the struggles and we have to have interactive conversations we have to listen to them as well we have to listen to why they want you know I want to tell you something like for example over here and there's a big problem where um some parents want to limit the use of techn ology for their children in a positive way and then their their fifth grader will come and say well I I don't know anything that's going on in my class and sometimes legitimate by the way because there's a WhatsApp group in the class and they get left out they they get completely left out because they don't know what's going on because that parent doesn't want them to have WhatsApp which I think is legitimate right so we'll talk about how to deal with that but this is all in the context of how we began this discussion this is critical because this will have a direct input on the emotional psychological and mental health and religious and spiritual being of a child as they grow older as they grow older so let's just I mean again this is this is a conversation in its own right about the type of boundaries but things like you know you say to the child right I'm the parent so when the time comes I'm going to get you a a smartphone if you need but there's going to be guidelines you can't have it all day and all night mean parents I know parents from parents that go to that at night the child goes to sleep with a smartphone has unfitted access to everything it it it's unbelievably dangerous that just can't happen right not as a not as a 8-year-old not as a 15-year-old even so there needs to be a look at filters and there a lot of people that can advise on that thing there needs to be um people do research on internet for homework and like that that can be done in a public place a child should never be on a laptop in their own room doing their own stuff um and and not that we need to do that secretly it needs to be we need to talk about it we need to explain them this is going to this is going to be the the the the SAT this is going to be the boundaries um there has to be an open door policy I'm happy for you to work on the laptop but I'm not happy for me to come into the room and for you to suddenly close the laptop I want to be able to check your history I want to be able to know what you're going on there are very good filters out there they're very good monitoring systems and so on and so forth I'm just giving a couple of examples these conversations are long and involved what I am saying is that the conversation needs to begin my feeling is my experience is the parents are hiding they escaping they don't want to have the conversation because it's a difficult conversation because yes there's push back yes there's tantrum sometimes yes there's there's all my friends do it why are you the only one etc etc we need to be parents we need to do it calmly never never get never take the bait of a tantrum we need to do it positively we need to always emphasize this for the good of the child I think very importantly also we need as parents to build alliances with other parents they're doing that now in New York I know there's a whole organization called I think it's called must or musk or something right which is um delaying children you know parents getting together and and from not not from the school not from the institutions but parents themselves building strong alliances together so children you know as long as young as eight can't say all my parents say well they don't because there's 10 parents who got together and they've de shout out to my cousin by m lipsker who's very he's involved in kronites I think in the trites chapter of it right yeah yeah which is which is which is a great so it's all that thing however I need to I need to go back to what I the way I started this particular segment of of our conversation that in order to do this parents are going to have to have a very hard look at the way they use technology themselves you cannot have this conversation with children and sit at a dinner table looking at your iPhone right just can't happen you can't U be secretive about what you're looking obviously we need to have our own boundaries we need to make sure that we have self-control some of us become addicted to our iPhone not such terrible stuff sometimes but the L addicted we're always checking our WhatsApp always we think the world's going to fall apart if we haven't checked the last message in the last seven minutes right so we need to look at our own modeling and we need to share with children our own world sometimes we need to say to our children you know I think I've been a little bit too much on my own phone I'm going to now when I come home I'm going to actually put away my phone and I'm going to sit with you and I'm not going to actually open my phone for another hour and a half even the check my emails right and share with children how it's not easy for you either they you need to we need to model that that effort to children so in short answer to your question I think technology is a very very important discussion in the context of prevention of mental health particularly and religious health and every other form of well-being and conversations need to begin parents need to find the strength not to be AF afraid and to engage positively if they don't know how to do it they need to reach out there's help out there people can help them people can advise them but it's something that every single parent today's age I think needs to take very seriously to F thank you to follow up on that on a practical level uh let's talk about uh cell phone policy in high schools and Bam in seminaries post high school and the reason I'm asking that because what I'm finding here in New York is what's going on that a lot of the very from schools are you can't have a smartphone only what they call a dumb phone and uh what inevitably takes place is that every go and boy have two phones one's a smartphone and one's a dumb phone one they show to the teacher one they keep in their bag and the parents know about it by the way so um and to me it's like just kind of shows that the the policy doesn't work saying Rish we can't we can't do it um we have to kind of recognize that like you said it's here to stay and educate you know educate our young about proper usage of the internet but just on a very practical level what would if you principal of of a high school I think you were once right but before PR pre pre phone days pre phone days right if you were a principal of a high school you know what rules would you put in place for uh to prevent this very thing of having a dumb phone and a smartphone secretly which we all know there are things that are private but then there are things that are secret which are just terrible so I'm going to ask that question a little bit differently because because look it's a hard one I think every school has different Community different expectations it's a very very complicated thing I know some schools what they do is they allow over here in new way austr they allow children to have smartphones because that's what they have anyway and they're not gonna and they don't want to go through that sort of secretive process but they actually have to hand in their phones when they come to school because it's a general policy that there shouldn't be distractions during the day so if they don't have phones during a day when you know at the end they can pick up their phone and leave it to the parents to guide the children by kind of phone but you know I want to I want to I want to share with you a thought that just came to mind which I wrote an article about this once and I remember doing this because I really believe in this and this this I remember once in Australia there's a big problem in in the non-jewish schools and and the or non religious schools even about children engaging in in alcohol and and substance abuse whatever the case is right and they keep on doing stuff which is clearly not not working so they they bring these they bring in these lectures to keep on talking about the the the dangers of drugs or the dangers of alcohol dangers of this dangers of that and it's clearly not working so they had this great one day I heard in the radio I was driving in the car where they were contemplating um raising the age the legal limit of drinking from 18 to 21 like they do in America and I thought you know that's really dumb because it's not working in America and it's definitely not going to work here either right it's not working age limit I mean you got to be naive to think that that that children want to drink can find a way around it right all these all these all these legal limits all that all they do is it makes harder for the organizers of events you know it's okay so you're 20 you're have 21 I can't off you or whatever the case is that kind of thing it's not doing anything for the child really right so R Al I and I I said it's not it's not the drink it's the chocolate what I mean by that is children need their own internal gauge children need a sense of decision making a pause in other words you know there's the famous um it's based on it's based on uh Victor Frankle and so on the the the the the pause between stimulus and response right part of the world that we live in today is this immediate impulsive response to everything children grow up with a lack of ability to actually hold back on things that are tempting right where you build that mechanism to hold back and just to think for a second and say well I don't necessarily need to jump into what I'm what what I want to do is not when they're 18 in high school or when they 21 in Yesa or or when they 12 in a high school right or in a preschool whatever the case is you build it very very young age there's that famous uh I don't remember who did the study but that famous marshmallow experiment it's it's a famous experiment they did with young young young children where they put some children in a room together and they and they put a Marshall and they told them that if you if you eat the marshmallow that's okay but if you don't eat it for 15 minutes we'll give you two marshmallow and they went out the room and just left these 5-year-olds and some had more natural self-control than others and it was actually it's a very very funny video and um some just sort of looked at it and looked at it and they tracked these children throughout their life and they saw the ones that have an internal ability for self-control the ones that were much more effective and successful and well-rounded and so on but we need to build that self-control but it doesn't start it doesn't start when they in I mean look sometimes rules have to be made for whatever reason have to be made and I'm not going to comment on that but but if you want it to be successful it's it's the 5-year-old you got to start with it's building that strength that inner strength that inner sense of decision-making self-control Cabas oil as we call it in the in the in the in the typical literature um from when they very very young in a strong beautiful and nurturing way but yet in in in a firm way thank you I have a final question uh before we we wrap this up and that is are you optimistic about the future of uh you know I hate this this term mental health awareness I mean we're all aware question is we're doing anything about it are you optimistic for the you know for future I'm optimistic because near term and the far term yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm concerned I think I think we need to need to react I think we need to do a lot more in the area of prevention but I'm optimistic because we also believe right with Torah Jews or we believe in what Torah tells us or we believe in we're recording this on so we know that is about one small flame not a big flame one small flame one little little candle each night as long as there's one more candle each night that's that's that's that's the idea and I think we shouldn't overwhelm ourselves I think every person that's listening to this or every person that is involved in thinking about these these Concepts just needs to do the little bit um if it's parents they should do for their own children take it seriously it might be as a resp respon might be just being more aware of people around us reaching out to people finding out how they are we know there's so many stories of people just that not every not every story works but we know that lots of stories about people who are helped just by someone caring about them someone looking out for them someone telephoning them and just saying how you doing I haven't seen you for a while um in terms of prevention just little steps you know I'm saying with parents when I said about technology for example starting the conversation you're not going to get it right overnight you're not going to get it right right away but just keep doing it you know the the it's still in the name of the and I heard once I read once that said a very similar thing and that is that parents need to spend half an hour each day about the of their children right before I had kids I didn't understand I thought it was an exaggeration half an hour youday sometimes I think maybe half an hour isn't enough the the concept here is just spend time thinking about it go to another parenting Le I know when I was a parent of young children I'm I'm a bit beyond that now but but um I used love to go to Parenting lectures even if I learned nothing new because every time I went it was just an energy again I would think about it again and and try maybe something new or try or try revisit something that I forgotten about we just need to keep keep thinking about it and keep doing little bits keep adding one candle and we have to believe that and and we we'll we'll push away lots of Darkness with a little bits of light Al righty well I uh I want to thank you for doing this uh this has been fascinating and I want to thank uh sakim for giving us the opportunity to have this very important discussion and I wish you much in the important work that you're doing I wish much toim and the important work that they're doing and uh we should all hear uh good news uh in this area M thank you and thank you for doing this it's been a pleasure I also want to just Echo that thanks to to the organizers of this event and to amudim I I haven't been involved with amudim that much but I've gone on the web and I've looked at a lot of their stuff and obviously doing very important work both in responding to crisis and in prevention um and I wish them lot of okay thank [Music] you hello everyone and welcome to all of you watching around the world Welcome to our 30 6our event an incredible event to benefit the wonderful organization amudim it's unite to heal powered by amudim and produced and presented by our friends at charity bids we are at the start of 36 hours action-packed hours with Incredible content wonderful interviews panel discussions videos all types of presentations for those of you who remember last year's unit to heal you know how it was incredible how chock full of information and presentations and entertainment it was this year believe it or not it's a step above a step further and we are ready to achieve our goal over the next 36 hours and provide incredible content inspirational material things that you'll be talking about for a long time just like what happened last year it's unit to heal.com if you're with us you know the website that's where you can donate that's where you can help us achieve our goals goal right now minutes ago I checked the tally and we were just under $500,000 which is an incredible accomplishment for the early part of this campaign over the next 36 hours we're hoping to get to $5 million and really make sure that amudam has what they need to provide for the worldwide Community during the year 2022 the number of cases the number of situations that amudam undertakes that amudam gets involved with to save Liv lives and to help families and to do anything to benefit the community is simply countless it's impossible at this point to keep track of all the things that they do and that's why their budget continues to increase because they take on more and more responsibilities to help youth families and individuals in our community and it's happening around the world that's why we need your help and that's one of the reasons that we have attracted you to this amazing unite to heal 2021 to to make sure to provide for you incredible content so that you'll say to yourself as you look at the screen and as you watch the website and look at the tally you'll say to yourself you know what this is a worthwh worthwhile organization this is one that I want to be involved with this is one that I want to support so again 36 hours starting with this incredible live hour and ending tomorrow with an incredible three-hour live presentation in between we've got game shows we've got panel discussions we've got interviews we have really interesting presentations some of which I want to bring to your attention specifically hooled squares one of my favorites and I have the uh honor of Hosting these episodes is a great game show with a lot of wonderful personalities and at 10 o'clock this morning Eastern Time right after this hour the first episode of three hollyood squares will be presented at 8:45 tonight there's a segment called on fire that's where you're going to get an opportunity to see just how dedicated rabbi luuck is to the organization that he founded audin it's comical but it's serious it's a lot of fun but it's something that you'll see just how seriously he takes it and that's coming up later tonight toxic positivity is the name of one of our sessions happening at 7 pm this evening we know that toxicity is always a uh challenging topic but toxic positivity that's something we could all get into and that's happening later on tonight many of you remember the conversation last year with by epim Goldberg and The Great Rosa Harel Shak this year it's part two the name is halik man that's the topic Rabbi Goldberg and RAR together in a unique interview that's at 6m tonight I believe that was one of the most watched segments last year this new fresh segment with these two rabbis and two amazing presenters will be at 6 o'clock tonight uh Dr pelich and RAB Danelle corbman have something called fomo and joomo that's happening at 4:00 later today 4 p.m. eastern time mental health and sports with one of the assistant coaches of the yesi university mccabes and many other great panelists is coming up at 1M this afternoon and there's a very interesting discussion between AR lightstone and one time ambassador to Israel um Ambassador fredman it's going to be happening today at 12:15 p.m. you get real insights into the Abraham Accords and the role that both of these gentlemen had in the pre peace process that now is being enjoyed between Israel and the UAE it's unite to heal powered by amudim we have a $5 million goal we are live for this hour and thank you for joining us from around the world tomorrow night we'll conclude with a three-hour live stream and stick with us all 36 hours for all this incredible content and so many wonderful segments we're going to go to a video now to kick things off it's a heartwarming video all about giving it's actually called latet that's the name of the song latet to give Ron weinreich who was injured in the Lebanon war sings this song with the IDF choir accompanying him it is heartwarming It's a Wonderful way to start and it's certainly a great way to think about and to actually undertake giving here's latet thank you for joining us at unit heal.com hi to all my friends around the world my name is Ron weinrich I am a former tank commander in the Israeli Defense Forces and I was injured pretty severely during the second Lebanon war uh where I suffered a spinal cord injury and today in my life among the things that I do is that I'm a professional artist and musician a singer and I'm really really honored to be a part of amm's giant event this year uh and to sing with you with my friends here from the IDF um the song we're going to be singing is called latet which means in Hebrew for those of you who don't know latet means to give it's a very famous song in Israel and uh we're going to sing it for you here today I wanted to share with you really quickly that my life changed so dramatically after my injury and the easiest place to go was you know inside and into depression and to feel horrible about myself about the world but sometimes when you step outside of yourself and you're able to give back and to contribute to others in one way or another or in any way um it can be the most significant and important thing you'll ever do in your life whatever the circumstance is in life you get to say how your life goes so my friends here and I who are all former singers in the IDF are really excited to share this song with you we hope you love [Music] it [Music] oh [Music] [Laughter] [Music] for [Music] fore [Music] for [Music] for [Music] fore [Music] oh [Music] oh [Music] let oh till m [Music] for [Music] seconds [Music] thank you Ron wein Reich and the IDF Choir The Power of song and the power of giving that's what it's all about and we notice just how many people have already jumped on to help us here at unite the heel make sure to give help us achieve a goal of 5 million by tomorrow 36 hours from now s luck is here he's of course the founder of amudim a pleasure to welcome you and thanks for having me here again this year uh we have started the 36-hour campaign and thank God we're off to a good start yep thank you and it's always an honor to uh have you participate and thank you as always for your help with all of what amudim needs throughout the year and especially during our big campaign appreciate that s um well it seems that last year must have gone very well because you're sticking with a with the same but enhanced format for unite to heel 2021 tell me about this unique format of the next 36 hours so last year as you remember we um put this all together with the tremendous help of Charity bids yummy shakar and team in just a matter of a couple of weeks right and um you know if it ain't broke don't fix it and people really liked it we had over about 900,000 live views and then about 1.5 million views throughout the year of the various segments so why why look for something new it worked and it helped us raise money so let's give people what they want and the segments are fresh and the music videos are fresh and there's all the panel discussions a lot of great material coming up people can find all the information on the website so some people might be curious why the goal for amudam continues to increase and why its budget in general continues to increase what can you tell us just about the last year the case load and the work at staff and volunteers of amudam have undertaken so so far in 2021 amudim has serviced over 4,700 clients whether it's matters of abuse sexual abuse addiction mental health matters um domestic violence related issues um you know child abuse neglect uh suicidality eating disorders and so much more and as the numbers in continue to increase of people reaching out for help which is you know a good sign because that means more people are reaching out for help it doesn't necessarily mean that more people have problems but at least they're feeling comfortable so we're accomplishing that part of the goal um we need increased staft and increased funding to be able to continue to answer the call and it just you know it costs money that's what it is and one has to assume that in the upcoming year the case load is just going to get larger and larger um yep so it's uh you know I made this comment to the board a few months ago where I said you know if we would be an investment firm people would look at our numbers year-over-year and be very impressed and the response was we are an investment firm firm we're just investing in lives and in people's health and well-being so yep absolutely the numbers are definitely increasing but uh that's a good thing because that means people are finally reaching out and the stigma is being broken and that's really what's important is people to feel comfortable when they need help to know that there's a place to call I always mentioned helping individuals and families uh but you just mentioned actually saving lives and people who are sort of on the periphery are not 100% familiar with amudim yet just becoming familiar with today's live stream tell them about life-saving situations where people literally would be losing their lives if not for the intervention of your staff so I mean you know we we have this regularly but when we're dealing with matters such as addiction or people that are you know dealing with issues of suicidality and they have nowhere to turn and they've just really you know are lost and you know being able to help people and their entire families get them the proper help that they need get them into the proper detox facilities the proper therapy be the you know the proper treatment um ends up giving them the ability to continue to go on and not just survive but actually Thrive and I mean just this past week I got a beautiful text message from somebody who uh sent to me you know I'm getting married on this and this night would love to have you there you haven't heard my name in about two three years um and if not for you I wouldn't be here today and you know we have to focus on those and look at you know the positive outcomes that are coming out so that it gives us the drive to continue to go further you know one of the big components when dealing with mental health related issues is unlike many other organizations that there's you know happy components afterwards we don't always get to see the benefits afterwards because a lot of people and I understand it and it makes perfect sense they want to forget that we exist by the time they're done with our services because we bring back a dark period of their life so it makes it you know there's very minimal of Alumni Association you know that others would have so we really rely on those who believe in what we do to help us help us help others yeah you know we're speaking to a diverse audience right now and providing a lot of diverse content all through the next 36 hours I mean there's something for everybody uh in the next 36 hours but let's talk about the diversity in a moment because some people might be watching and saying to themselves you know this is really a problem in a specific segment of our community a specific Geographic place in our community that's where it's really these cases have exploded you're you could bear witness to the fact that this is everywhere and it affects everyone so I'm the first to admit that I made that same mistake eight years ago before the founding of amudam and I also thought that this wasn't specific communities but I I have to tell you the issues that we deal with are literally across the board from the most religious of communities to completely secular Jewish non-jewish minorities not minorities families with you know that are from broken homes and those that are not and it just everything across the board and also across the globe I mean we've served clients this year alone in over 30 some OD countries around the world and in the us alone in over I think it's like 39 States was this year I have to double check but it's really people from all over and people are struggling everywhere and you know it's something that needs to be understood it's not a specific segment or a specific Community or a specific you know type of person but it's really just truly across the board and just everywhere and their countries people from different countries watching right now chances are you've been in their country with not you personally but I'm saying your staff has helped out uh with cases there and it was funny because when you expanded to Israel for and of course the Europe and other places people wondered wait a second you know isn't there enough work here but the reality was that your board and you saw that there's just too much happening everywhere and we need feet on the ground or boots on the ground to make sure we can service clients all around the world absolutely and you know it is one of those things where when people reach out to us from a specific community and you know our system and our database and I show this to you so you know that I'm a little bit of a data freak when it comes to tracking everything um has an art an AI component to it an artificial intelligence so we can actually realize when there's an increase in specific countries areas segments and types so that we can try to attempt to get prevention in there as well so it's not just about putting out the fires but it's about recognizing which areas are struggling with what issues more than others so that we can actually try to help before the problem becomes too large I hope those preventative measures are on the increase that I I assume seminars and onetoone encounters and things like that are on the increase now now they started increasing again because we can finally get back you know out there and we'll see what happens over the next few months um but also with our school programming and our educational I think we have over six and a half thousand students this year that are participating in various um educational [Music] programmingsoftware is a powerful one um as they all are I mean isi and his group are just amazing they know how to put together uh you know real powerful pieces and they're always done in conjunction with our clinical board to make sure that what we're putting out is realistic hard-hitting but with a point you know to show people the help we're not just here to try to uh you know create the issue we're here to try to solve the problem right uh you'd prefer not to startle people with some of the things in those videos but reality is reality right and that's and that's really what it boils down to you know people in in the early days got very very upset at us when we put out these PSA videos and they were like oh you know you're embarrassing a specific Community or a specific segment and I'm like no this is just across everything and we have seen the amazing results of it people have reached out to us and said you know I saw this in this video two and a half years ago and just from seeing that video I was able to reach out and get the help I needed without even coming to amudim specifically so we do see that they really do it helps a lot of people all around the globe everybody luck of course course the founder of amudim uh a great kickoff a wonderful start the content over the next 36 hours remarkable people are looking forward to so many different segments and uh I'm looking forward to the segment where you're going to be uh really demonstrating your love for am mudin by tasting certain things I won't give any more details but people should make sure to tune in later today at 8:45 PM they can see that video when it drops and um and and tomorrow we'll have a live stream for three hours toward the end of this and hopefully by then we will have surpassed our $5 million goal absolutely thank you again knam for your amazing uh it's a $5 million goal and those of you watching from around the world it's time for you to respond and respond right now please please unit to heal.com you'll see it all over social media encourage your friends and family to give uh we're literally saving lives just like you would fund a firefighter to go into a burning building and save those lives that's what's happening at audin they are literally firefighters they are people who are who are putting out firers who are saving lives who are helping people on a daily basis and they need your help and they need it now please help us everybody and spread the word it's a $5 million goal it's certainly attainable plenty of great entertainment and inspiration and so many wonderful things over the next 36 hours uh unit to heal.com the website describes so many of the things that are going to be happening plus the times are listed so you know exactly when to tune in for the specific segment that you're anticipating but these 36 hours the most important thing is that they benefit I move them to the point that we achieve our goal uh when I got on the air at 9:00 a.m. eastern time minutes ago uh we were hovering at around half a million 500,000 so we're off to a great start but we need your help give and give generously also one other very important thing before our next guest every single dollar that is given today and tomorrow at unite to heal is quadrupled you give a dollar it's worth four you you give 25 it's 100 you give 180 it's 540 we're talking or is it 3 is it 720 whichever what it is everything is quadr they'll do the math but every one of them is quadrupled so a $250 donation is really $1,000 makes such a difference give now at unit to heal.com RBI menley kadari is executive director of AMU 302 Innovation Center for the global network of SCH forab I am assuming that you are a member of the legendary k family and for that alone it's a pleasure to welcome you to this broadcast thanks so much for joining us today good morning to be the legendary nak seagull it's such a special occasion I appreciate that you know nice to be I would say nice to be here thank you very much our two families go way back and it's great to reunite um so the the the the briefing that I got about your role which literally uh has a hand in every one of the uh kabad houses around the world in some way you are interacting with old and providing uh services and whatever type of um of help is needed uh I was told that if an emergency situation that would fit under the amudim rubric comes up you immediately will call tlu and his staff and no matter where that situation is around the world they will respond tell me about the situation tell me about the relationship between your organization and Amud so again the you know the karski family and the Gluk family also go back generations to Rabbi Glock Senor as well as the before pram and at any given time in the middle of the night I think it's actually a two-way street where I would get a phone call mendi who's theak in middle of nowhere you know what happened there was a car crash there was a plane crash there was a this there was a that somebody's in trouble somebody needs help and we would work together and vice versa in areas when we need help uh in any of the services which later beca formatted within the organization that became amudim and the support that it offers the Jewish Community we obviously have a tremendous amount of back and forth unfortunately the areas that amudim really trailblazed and shined the light on and promoted and created an awareness around uh was not something that was fun to talk about and it was something that I think anybody within the Jewish Community saw bubbling uh across across the board and it was very very hard because you had really good families that never really parents that educated their kids properly sent them to the right schools did the right thing all along and for no uh a no fault of their own really their children started dealing with issues that you know God gifted them with that was very very hard for them to deal with and amudim was really one of the first organizations that you know brought it all to light that brought it all together and you know created an awareness and brought the support and uh became a desk where people can call for for these issues and for all the other supports that uh you know tlu and his team really offered you know from the visas to the uh you know to entering are and all the other not even talking about that whole that whole other space which can be extremely frustrating for people that you know that don't have a passport or lost their passport or don't have access especially in the I'm not even talking about the last two years I'm talking about pre the past two years it's such an important point I want people to realize that passport situations and emergency travel situations before Co amudam was always there but in the last couple of years if you made it to Israel or if you have a student a a a son or daughter who's made it to Israel to be in Yeshiva or seminary is a good chance and amudam had a hand in that yet another reason to give and support the organization I mean I mean it's no joke and we sometimes like to laugh about the uh obscure places that you Network goes to and you know cities around the world that we probably never heard of where there's no matter what the geographic problem might be or the geographic situation might be amudam doesn't say no to you right it could be it could be any I I you could probably name a city or two where they've actually helped that which we've never heard of so first of all we're very sensitive it's not my network it's the Reb's Network and it's the Reb schim and really you know this is also an opportunity when we're shining the the the the spotlight on amudim and I speaking to about this quite often there are a lot of SCH that are living in these places that have homes where Amud recommends people to go to and SCH that are on the Forefront and the front lines where you know I got a call last week from a a a a a a a CEO of a real you know special Jewish organization someone from Israel's coming his son is in middle of Utah somewhere is there anybody that can go just visit him put on filling with him bring kosher food to him so there is a you know like I said the the relationship between Amud andab is a lot deeper than just a phone call and help it's really a two-way it's a two-way street where we both do things for each other and we complement each other uh on the you know at the end of the day the avas is being there for every Jew everywhere is something that we both share in common and and this is such an important point because you're alluding to it but I'm going to say it there are hospitals and detox centers and other Retreats and other places that are in remote areas of the US and otherwise that need a visit from from a rabbi and the obviously are there to help out in a situation like that it's a I never even considered that as you said a lot of times that actually comes from Amud you know we have some and today the types of treatments the outdoor treatments and the camping treatments and there are so many different types and so many different special n Shas in so many different places uh you know if you've never been exposed to it then good for you and you're very very lucky uh but for any family who has exposed it and knows what it means to go through uh you know a family member being away for a month two months three months six months and going through the you know that whole process it's a life it's it's it's very very hard and to have this support and to have this address and to have people there that are taking your call and to have people there that are creating an awareness it's very important I'm Andy karski a pleasure meeting you and important words about amudam thanks for joining us uh all the reasons you just heard are great reasons to give and give right now unit heal.com of course course uh unite to heal powered by Amud in the next 36 hours of amazing content all we're asking is that you open your heart and give get us to the $5 million goal realize that every time you give a dollar it's worth four dollars four times the amount of what you give is what amudam is really going to get with this matching campaign so please we have an amazing video an amazing video that reflects Father and Son an amazing video that reflects the beauty of a family it's schamy Dax and D Dax together a song called daddy deer here it is at unit to heal.com [Music] daddy dear tell me please is it true what they said in the heaven there's a cup that gets Fuller each day and I heard that has keeps it close nearby and he fills it with his tears each time that we cry Z told me Daddy de did he tell you the that when sorrow strikes his people hasem feels all the pain tell me why does he cry far away in the sky tell me why daddy dear all the tears in your little one one yes it's true yes it's true Z told me years ago and his dad told him to Father's cry for their children and does the same and he hurt so yes he yes he feels our tears of pity from his eyes and his cup sadly flow one day when it's full all our troubles will go we will dance we will fly in the sky like the bird and I cry little one cuz I'm touched by your words one more question daddy de answer please if you will just out deep is is come tell me when will it don't you think it is time let the Sun forever shine don't you think it is dear daddy of little one it is time I question that so let us ask him together together me and you father dear do you hear our worries our Fe will your eyes ever drop is your cup filled with [Music] tear [Music] unit to heal.com powered by amudim everybody out there you are in for an amazing treat over the next 36 hours we have so much great content so many wonderful things to watch interviews panel discussions game shows including holy youth squares and many wonderful conversations all we ask is that you support $5 million goal every dollar is quadrupled $5 million goal every dollar is quadrupled now I'm about to introduce a guest who in my opinion represents thousands of parents in our community especially here in the United States and I'll explain why in a moment if everybody in this demographic that we're about to speak about would give something to am mudin we'd reach the goal almost immediately uh with that in mind Rachel patashnik is here in our studio a pleasure to welcome you toed to heal good morning to you good morning and Rachel uh is here to thank audin and as I said I think you're representing thousands and thousands of parents because amudim secured a Visa for your daughter to be able to get to Seminary in Israel and I am sure you know that there are many you you have many many colleagues many parents out there who are hoping that their children get to Yeshiva and Seminary and amudim helped them do so what happened in your case how did it work that she eventually got in I reached out to a neighbor and I and I just said that I was having a hard time knowing exactly what I needed to get this passport and uh she told me to email Amin and I don't know I was just having such a hard time I was so frustrated and I think I actually emailed at a crazy late hour after just being just B Beyond and beside myself I just didn't know what to do and I actually get a phone call at literally midnight or 12:30 at night and this is after I'd written my email I couldn't sleep and and and then the person on the phone said to me I wouldn't ordinarily call you at this hour but I saw how frustrated you were just don't worry about anything and we'll take care of you in the morning I was like wow this is such a heaven sent phone call I I was just it was it was like it was like salvation in a second you know someone coming at the at the least expected time and just swooping in and saving the day exactly exactly I assume your daughter's in Israel right now yes she is okay having a good time a good year a productive one yes all right uh like I said you're representative of many parents out there who relied on a mudam to get people uh to get the uh their children into seminaries and yeshivas in Israel and it's funny and and I say this to everybody watching right now there's some really very serious stuff that amudam encounters we're talking about real life-saving situations but when it came to this to making sure that thousands of students would be able to be in Israel whether it was during the summer or during the seminary in Yeshiva year they stepped up to make sure this got done and they did it for everybody the way you just described it in as in as helpful and as calm a manner as possible from that phone call on the experience must have been much much different yes it was all of a sudden you're very calm about the whole thing as opposed to all the all the pressure that was going on beforehand uh did you hear from other people do do you know of other Seminary students whose parents were going through the same thing I only knew of one neighbor she was the one who suggested that I go to amudim that was it she was the only one I spoke to and she said reach out to mudin they can help you I was just so desperate for anyone to help me and and I reached out to other parents no one was able to help me so she told me reach out to amudim and and they should be able to help you and they took care of it of course so now when you when you've been through this and thank God this was the only situation you had to bring to Amud right uh how do you how do you view what they do in general because if they're jumping into action for parents who want to get their kids to Israel imagine what they're doing when a parent God forbid calls and says you know my son or daughter is on the brink right so they are such a support system and and you and any person that's in a crisis I felt like I was in a crisis situation and just to get that support when you need it and it wasn't just then it was every step of the way every step of the way I always got like responses and and help and support the whole time from the beginning to the end what was it like getting the WhatsApp that she actually made it to Israel must been excited and unbelievable frankly no but even the day before and the day of I encountered problems because there's always last there's always last minute documents that I let's say that I needed or weren't able to download and and uh you know up until the very end I got that support that was just necessary for her to get there yeah and thank God that she did and like I said there's so many people watching right now especially here in the United States who uh were beneficiaries of a mudam work to get their children to seminaries in yeshivas and Israel give now support Amud not just for that although if that demographic would give frankly we'd be at our goal already that's how many people they helped when it came to getting to Israel uh but please give and be as supportive and as generous as possible uh Rachel patashnik thank you and I think all the parents that you're represented here today thank you as well for giving this big thank you to Amud my pleasure I just have to give a shout out to Ashi Liber he's the one who really helped me from the beginning to the end he's the man yes excellent thank you very much to him and to all his colleagues uh that um that work with Amud uh everybody out there we have so many wonderful things going on today uh and tomorrow during these 36 hours of unite to heal we have an amazing an incredible array of videos of panel discussions interviews game shows including holy in squares which I'm so excited about and so many other segments that you're going to find both entertaining and inspirational all we ask in exchange for this great content and for you enjoying a day and a half on the unite to heel site is to be as generous as possible every single dollar you give is quadrupled you know what that means 18 is 72 and 180 is 720 and 100 is 400 etc etc uh we want to achieve our goal we want to surpass the goal way before we get back on the air tomorrow at 6 PM eastern time the goal is five million every dollar is quadrupled and we're asking everybody to please participate and please give give generously to amudim they are saving lives when you give to this organization you know that you are supporting a lifesaving operation simple as that I said we have some exciting things going on uh we also have some serious things going on and this next segment I think is both exciting and serious the amazing singer and performer in my mind one of the great Superstars we have is Ellie schel and he is here on set Ellie a pleasure to welcome you to this broadcast always with you thank you very much I love speaking with you every time it's just thank you very much we always have a good time don't we that's right that's right today it's a good time and it's serious you have created and I got a sneak peek a little little sneak peek you have created a song and a video that has been described to me by the people at charity bids as a song and video that will save lives we're going to watch it in a minute but as an introductory word is that a statement you agree with you'll we'll see but uh my creative partner and the producer of this entire event and the CEO of Charity BS yum Shear who we've been working on this for the past four months together developing this would say he's in not in entertainment he's in edutainment y and what this song is about is about trying to give over the message of what the experience is um of the people going through these horrible horrible experiences in and to educate you know our our clout on these subjects because it's a very very hard thing to wrap your head around and to even engage with and I really tried to walk the line of giving over these experiences getting in touch with myself for this and with someone close to me who went through these things as well wow yes you feel your soul in this song I'm telling you well I have to be being straight I have this experience myself you know I went through on different levels different things um throughout the song and every lyric that I turned over I really felt within my Within Myself well it certainly comes out that way and it was of course yummy who said to me this song is literally going to save lives I I'm asking everybody around the world to stop for a moment I'm asking everybody watching to stop for a moment and if you know people who are not watching right now recommend that they watch this video later on but stop for a moment you your children all the different Generations that are in your home right now and just watch this video listen to the words listen to the music listen to the heartfelt soul of Ellie schel that's in this selection uh it's called I will stand for you I will stand for for you and this is an opportunity for everybody this is an opportunity for everybody to watch this video and to see and to see just what the work of amudim is all about we'll have more with Elie schable coming up this is I will stand for you presented by [Music] audin [Music] I can see it in your eyes there was something you were hiding you were holding deep inside you were fighting on your [Music] own all the nights you went to bed under covers you you were crying with his words inside your head he stole your innocence so when you feel like hope is lost and you don't know where to go or who to call I will stand for you we can face the world together if we raise our voice and make the choice to learn to live again I will stand for you when you need me more than ever we will face the truth and find a new way through I will stand for you I will stand for [Music] you for as long as you remember you had troubles on your mind at the bottom of the B left them all behind you said you surrender oh you need it was more time but the days turn to years and your promise turned to [Music] Li so when you feel like home is lost and you don't know where to go to call I will stand for you we can face the world together if Weise our and make the choice to learn to live again I will stand for you when you need me more than ever we will face the truth and find a new way through I will stand for you I will stand for [Music] you and I love you enough for you to hate me this I will for you we can face the world together if we raise our voice and make the choice to learn to live again I will stand for you when you need me more than ever we will face the truth and find a new way through we will stand for [Music] you Ellie schel is responsible for the uh lyrics and music for I will stand for you and he's here of course in the unite the heel Studios uh the song is amazing I hope it touched Hearts around the world like I feel it did uh there are a couple of things you have here in the lyric lycs are in front of me there are a couple things you have here that really took guts to to say and of course to sing about um it's clear in the opening to this song the first situation you describe is one of abuse and one that years ago would never have been addressed and if it was addressed it was only addressed in very private situations in our community you decided you know what this is a song that has to save lives let's let's talk about the situations that people are going through yes um someone close to me um went through went through went through this um um it's hard to talk about but to write about that as well um to give it the dignity and to give it the um the power and the dignity mixed it was very hard for me um but it must be said and it must be it must be spoken about and it's taken all the people that have been been coming out about their their situations that have given that have allowed this song to be born because that's true without without all the people coming out and saying their stories I wouldn't be able to write about this this wouldn't be able to be received you know and then toward the end of the song you have a line which ironically you pointed out to me in the video and I I said to you I have it circled on my lyrics and I love you enough for you to hate me for this those are love and hate those are strong extremes but but we care so much about you and you're going to hate the fact that we're intervening we're going to hate the fact that we're trying to seek help for you you're going to hate all of it but that's how much we love you you know I think the biggest thing that we're dealing with as from yiden as yiden is that the idea of choice because here's the question like where do you draw the line where this person has a choice choice they don't have the power to do this they're we're trying to take care of them but do we do they really have the choice do they can they choose and or have they lost the choice right and then and they're in a desate situation and they they can't see that for themselves but and you also don't want to overstep so this line was about a friend of mine that I had to intervene on and I had to I had to break the trust that I had with this person person for my whole life because I felt that they were in danger and I had to do that and I risked the relationship and they hated me for it happened to me this is a line I wrote you know the the best songs that I've written have been in response to a moment you see there's a moment that we something happens and I went home and I just wrote it I wrote this out and I um and it's a very I I hope it's well received because to say this word in a song after all of this yeah it's just like what yeah and and I love you enough for you to hate me for this uh I hope this goes viral I hope everybody recommends to everybody on their social media WhatsApp groups Etc to watch this video it's powerful it is going to be a life-saving video because at least one if not hundreds will make sure to seek help once they've seen this video I will stand for you and today we're telling the whole community that Amud stand for you today we're telling everybody out there that amudim is going to be there they just have to be supported and continue to exist at a strong level that's why we're asking you for your donations and asking you to support amudam by the way I'm always fascinated as you know by by by songwriters in general and your songwriting technique it it had to be like this the song had to be at this Tempo had to be in this spirit with this type of of musical background right from the moment you started writing it it was always on that road correct yes I mean I started I had an idea this was this was minay I I went through something I came home and I wrote a little a piece I started with this and then Yumi calls me two weeks later I have the text messages he goes Ellie I need you to write a song I came up with this idea I want to talk about amudim I want you to write a song I said yummy I just started writing something he goes well okay that's crazy okay let's get together and he kind of decided how he wanted me to speak about things what to speak about and it turns out that I had everything just flowed and we worked together to develop the video and the and the song and yeah it just it just was natural and it was for me it was divine intervention that this that this all came together this way I love the fact that you're the the primary spokesman that you are the center of attention so to speak in the video like this is you saying to the world you know there's a there's there are individuals and there groups of people like amudam who are ready to help we are are here for you and the candles what like when you see the candles in the video what do they mean to you so the candles as you see that there are people holding candles and there are candles spread out in the back where you can't where that are not moving so those are representing the people that we unfortunately couldn't help and um and the uh the people that are moving with the candles those are the people that are reaching out and and um you know to accept that reality and to to know that this is this is the reality and we need help you know there's nowhere to go so where are we going to go this is what amudam is bringing and that's that's the bottom line I don't we need help and amudim is bringing that so there's nowhere else to go we need to help these people and amudam is bringing that very very much get I'm right behind I stand for you certainly do and by the way am am is to stand correct and it's also a pillar but it's to stand and I you know it's working right you're ready to stand up and and and scream to the hilltop said you're ready to help people who are in need and we know that candles in general Flames representing the shama and there are a lot of precious the Shas some of whom as you indicated are representing the ones who are lost and others of course who are progressing thank God and hopefully getting the help they need mentioned to me on the air the other day that uh he tries very hard and I get this to not focus that much on those who've been lost and unfor fortunately there are too many but there are so many positive things going on so many lives that are being saved so many people that are being touched uh that that you know it's important to to emphasize the positivity always and you know for a guy like T who's been busy nonstop I mean I grew up with so I see see the routine I know him I know like he is just on fire all day just helping people and he's got a positive attitude about everything and you need that and you need somebody focused on that in order to really keep things flowing and thank God they have an entire team of people that help people through all these situations and that's really what this is what this is all about helping helping all these people be there for everyone yeah uh thank you Ellie and mael on what has been certainly received already I'm sure as a wonderful production the song is incredible and if Yummy's words are prophetic and I think they are that it's going to save lives then you've done an amazing thing so thank you from your mouth to God's ears I me to that unit to heal.com uh to wrap up this opening hour with a segment like that has been exhilarating if you haven't seen the video yet if you tuned in a few minutes too late or if you know people who would appreciate the video uh that Ellie's responsible for I will stand for you please make sure they see it it's inspiring it'll Inspire them them to give it will inspire them to think and it might Inspire them to recommend amudim to a family that's in need to people out there young and old that are seeking help for a specific situation so please make sure that video goes uh viral as we like to say and that people all around the world watch it uh we have a full lineup today that goes all the way until 9 o'clock Eastern time tomorrow night and I'll join you with many wonderful guests toward the end of our fundraiser between 6:00 and 9: Eastern time tomorrow evening I hope you'll join us for that live stream meanwhile we have a goal the goal is $5 million I want to get back on the air tomorrow night with that goal having already been achieved and let's get into bonus time and raise even more uh speaking about from our mouth to God's ears so five million is an attainable goal we need your help if you are somebody who appreciates the work of amudim if you're somebody who's been helped by amudim with the services we described with Rachel earlier of getting somebody into Israel if you're somebody who simply has called amudim for a recommendation or for some type of information that they could provide they're every where in every nook and cranny of the Jewish Community helping people if you're somebody who has a neighbor or a friend or a relative who's been helped by amudim whatever the situation is please give and give generously with your generous donations Amud could have a very strong 2022 and really start the calendar year off in a wonderful fashion every single time you donate or anyone in your circle donates in the next 35 hours it will be quadrupled and you know what that means your $1,000 donation becomes 4,000 and every donation becomes even much more uh worth uh it becomes becomes much more so please give to amudim give generously and make sure that you spread the word because when your contributions are being quadrupled by wonderful matchers your contribution goes a long way unit to heal.com the content we have for the rest of the day is amazing incredible panel discussions wonderful interviews great game shows including holid squares which begins 60 seconds from now wonderful music videos fantastic discussions and some unique things including a game show where we're going to see just how dedicated S glck is to the Amud cause it's half serious and half comical it's a lot of fun and it's going to be on later tonight also there are many wonderful features that are being presented including AR lightstone and Ambassador Freeman about the Abraham Accords including R efim Goldberg and refal schita um the I would call it the second part of their uh very well-received conversation which began last year this time the topic is halik man was one of the most watched segments last year their encounter and I'm sure this year will be the same that's coming up later today thank you for joining us unit to heal.com give and give generously and tell everybody in your circles to do the same support amudim I will speak to you tomorrow my name is n seagull it's been a pleasure opening up this campaign let's get it done everybody unite the heal.com powered by amudim and presented by our friends at charity [Music] bids welcome to another charity bids production of holy it squares in association with same mov.com the only place to create and share personalized video messages from your favorite Jewish stars and we are all here benefiting our dear friends at amudim tonight's holy IDs Charlene amof Benny fredman mayor K Ellie libowitz Elon corn blo meny pelen felig harell Ellie schel and Nissim black our two contestants tonight on the uh X Podium we have rabbii Glu who's the director of amudim Rabbi Glu thanks for being here thank you for having me and representing the O Podium we have Yus who is the clinical case manager at amudam thanks for being here tonight thanks so much for having me and we are ready to kick off our game R by Gluck you won the toss backstage and you get to choose our first celebrity oh no I'm going to get into trouble no matter who I pick first so I got to go with uh we'll start with Charlene all right Charlene you're all set here's your question which of these childhood series had an ongoing Jewish character is it a The Hardy Boys B the Tom Swift series C Encyclopedia Brown or D Henry hugin's Ramona series Regis I'm gonna call a friend I'm gonna phone a friend I think that might be a different game I'm just joking okay so I know this because this is a very very very easy one and we may or may not have been told to lie very confidently to mess with you Rabbi Glock so you may or may not know that I'm absolutely fibbing or telling you the truth but I'm very very confident in the answer and the answer is D all right she says Henry Huggins remon series RBI glck do you agree or disagree I will respectfully disagree and the answer is The Hardy Boys whose cevra included Phil Cohen who appeared in the first Hardy Boys and then some other series as well X gets the square we move on to our next question y who do you have for us I'm going to go with mayor K mayor K Center Square he won't be a k for long he'll likely be an X or an o in just a couple of seconds here a few months ago uh as We Know by tski passed away and he was best known for the way he fused Torah principles with his understanding of Psychiatry he was also a bestselling author of self-help books and they had a groundbreaking collaboration with which syndicated newspaper comic strip artist is it a Gary Trudeau of dunesbury B Gary Larsson of the faride Charles Schultz of peanuts or D Bill Waterson of Calvin and Hobs wow fantastic ask a question as you all know I'm I'm so deep in the self-development self-help space I love going about motivating people throughout the world through videos and and the content that I creates so this is something right up my line Robie torsi is a a legend a giant of a man I love his work and so it goes without a doubt uh that I I'm I know of all his work and his collaborations throughout his years and number c is definitely the answer Charles from the penis yeah you agree or disagree I'm going to agree and uh in fact o gets the center Square it is Charles Schulz and we move on TR luuck who's our next celebrity uh we're going to go with I guess I got to try to figure out how to win this one um Ellie schel all right Ellie here's your question we're going to the superhero theme uh everybody knows that Superman's founding fathers were two nice Jewish boys named seagull and Schuster and that Batman's Creator was Bob Kaine who was originally Robert Khan Nam the comic book character that was in fact a nice Jewish boy is it a Matt Murdoch the blind superhero named Daredevil was it B Dick Grayson Batman's teenage sidekick Robin was it C Steve Rogers known as Captain America or D Ben Grim known as the thing wow so first of all I'm a huge fan I just saw Justice League um the DC Universe Justice League uh Snider cut and huge fan of Batman and Superman and I know for sure that um if it was Batman and Superman there's no way they would have two Yen fighting against each other so it's definitely not going to be Batman and Superman and you know maybe it's I'm between the two of them Matt Murdoch big fan of Matt Mo Murdoch also I don't think he was a yid so I'm going to say Grim you know because we're very very you know we we we d a lot we suffer so Ben Grim sounds like a yisha guy so I'm going to go with Ben Grim agree or disagree with Ellie schel so I mean I would normally always agree with everything Ellie says but you know considering what we do at amudim Grim is the opposite of what we try to represent we want to make sure that people are happy and healthy and doing much better so based on that I'm going to choose to say that I disagree because I can't have somebody grim being Affiliated or Associated I love it I love it well looks like you may have a choice there RBI Glock because the thing Ben Grim was so Jewish that apparently Marvel uh established for him a special belated Bar Mitzvah issue in 2002 circle gets the square and now y's in a position where she could actually win this thing y who's your choice Benny Freedman please Benny Freedman who Benny Benny just remember okay Benny Freeman who in a previous episode You Might Recall was here as a contestant and now he's become one of the celebrities on our board Benny here's your question uh what was not the name of a kosher restaurant a Rosen blo and Rosetti B boy chicks c cheers D mamish Chow Chinese or E pelum kosher which was not the name I go like this Elon be careful well as you know I'm a big foodie I'm famous for uh for that so it's one of the things you're famous for it's one of the many things I'm famous for so I will say with uh a lot of confidence that it is option A all right so Benny Freeman says that um Rosen blo and Rosetti was not the real Coosa restaurant what does y say agree disagree all right I'm going to have to agree with Benny uh the answer is mamish Chow Chinese and X gets the square and we continue the game everybody luck who's next H meny pelen meny pelen who also during our last production here at flow motion Studios was on this side of the action now he's a celebrity in one of our boxes and your questions as follows today the U symbol mendi uh the OU symbol of Kos can be found in over a million products the first mainstream dream product in 1923 to feature the OU and the OU logo that we still see today was a 's cakes B hind baked beans C Coca Cola or D Nabisco Saltines that is uh interesting you mention it because my grandmother was born in 1923 and she always said said that um she was able to buy a kosher Coke a kosher Coke she always said this I could kosher Coke and she said the coke did things to her that amudim needed to help you get over so U Back Then it had different ingredients so I'm going to go definitely confidently with Coke and I'm not just saying that because they told me you got to be confident but I know this R glck you could set yourself up in a really big way here on the board do you disagree or agree with Mendy pelen um so first of all Mindy thank you so much and um it's great that your uh grandmother back in 1923 was talking about Coca-Cola but uh and Amud and Amud him obviously um you know which uh has been around a lot longer so that's great so thank you but I am actually going to respectfully disagree RBI luck has set himself up really nicely the answer is Hines who in fact be Hines baked beans who in fact took their relationship with kosher consumers so seriously listen to this they run National ads each pesak season reminding people that their products were not Kosh La pesak how do you like that X gets the square and that means that Rabbi glck is in a good position and Y needs to do some blocking here Y which celebrity you calling on all right hanala help me out here hanala it's time for your question and here we go prior to co there were over 300 pesak programs available worldwide that number dropped last year most experts think that we're going to get back to that figure in the very near future hopefully in 2022 which of these places has never hosted a Bonafide pesak program a the Queen Elizabeth 2 B Shelley adon's Palazo Casino Resort C the park high at Dubai and D the rickest premium in Croatia which of the four has never had a real pesak program all right I'm a very traditional girl I've never gone to a pesak program I also don't cook so we generally go to my mother-in-law plus we're Sparty so we eat rice who needs a hotel I'm going to ask the magic aall cuz when a doubt ask the apall that's our usual policy yeah the answer is not what the apall suggested um I'm going to go there's definitely Croatia Kad and Croatia I'm going to go with B because there's nothing kosher about gambling it doesn't feel like good uh combination That's The Palazo Casino Resort Y is it a agree or disagree I got to disagree with Han over here uh the answer is The Palazo Casino Resort We cannot put the X in that square in order to win as we know the rules just let's stop for a although although I do need to agree with kanol regarding the um uh gambling so thank you that's something that we are seeing a huge increase of especially with online gambling you know throughout Co so thank you for mentioning that and it's important that we understand an increase also because the gambling resorts are close to the Jewish neighborhoods or inre because people were able to do it online much easier because they were home stuck and quarantined and had easier access understood RAB Gluck you have two at least two that I see opportunities to actually win this thing cuz you have to earn that final Square uh which celebrity would you like to call on Ellie let's give you a chance ellz are you ready for your question I am ready all right here here we go uh the Catskills the borch belt is known as the home of gr singers the Concord kers and many others uh the fact is that that area was once home to over 500 Resorts that attracted Jewish vacationers from all around the tri state area uh despite the large number only a handful were known as a full-time Sher shabis and glot kosher Resort which was not of this list which was not a Sher shabis Resort a the Pioneer Country Club B the homak resort C Shanks Paramount D the Pine View Hotel or E the spring Glenn Resort I'm going to go with d the Pine View Hotel Pine View Hotel the only one not Sher shabra by Gluck you agree disagree you know I I thank you for your help and the support but uh I do remember hearing amazing stories about the Simas Tor at the Pine View Hotel so I am going to respectfully disagree I could tell tell you what it was like yff at the Pine View Hotel as a kid the answer is Shanks Paramount X gets the square and Rabbi Gluck congratulations uh another great Victory here at holud squares more coming up stay right where you are hello hello everybody stop what you doing mirl hi hey what's going on what's up mitv Nation this is n in Black hi it's Charlene Amo and so excited to connect with you over at se ma hi I million Tessa it's your friend Mar K wishing you a happy birthday the yares are having an anniversary 30 years Nama your cousin Eric reached out to me this is going to be my performance for your wedding I know that many changes are taking place Gabriel but nothing can stop your bar mitzvah each Mitzvah that a person does Connects them more and more to his I cannot believe how incredibly mature and capable you both are happy birthday livey happy birthday do you have any idea what a special day it [Music] is welcome back to round two of H Le squares created for and in support of Amin we're ready for round two with two contestants representing the ex Podium uh we have Su Eller Social Work intern at Amud thanks for being here today the circle Podium is represented by David wearden who is director of project heel and supervises the interns at Amud D welcome to the game and we're ready to start sorry you won the uh coin toss backstage you get to choose our first celebrity so exciting I think I'll go with Nissim Nissim black Center Square here we go Nissim the question is when it comes to adding salt to a recipe most chefs seem to prefer a version known as kosher salt over most every other salt type what is kosher salt a a coarser form of the table salt crystal that's used to caser meat by drawing out blood b as kosher has become synonymous with clean and pure kosher salts a cleaner and purer salt free of additives to prevent clumping C salt that's been evaporated from Israeli bodies of water like the Dead Sea or D another name for low sodium salt you know what um I actually don't use kosher salt I use Himalayan salt um and that's because it's much better to keep all of your minerals you know uh magnesium potassium so I really recommend Himalayan salt but since that was not on the list it's the same stuff that they sell you in the store it's another name for low sodium salt so his answer is these sorry do you agree disagree I disagree and the answer is a it's a corser form of table salt crystal that cers meat by drawing the blood out of it and Nissan black in the center Square that's where we put the X and we move on to doid Wine Garden and your choice is it's a tough one I mean I want to pick Benny Freeman with one of his songs but then Nissim is going to want me to rap and I don't think anyone wants to hear that um but I'm going to go with Benny regardless you're going shopping and you call to ask if I need anything and you say to please spare whatever you know whatever the message is you're asked to pick up vanilla ice cream you get to your grocery's freezer section they've got a whole bunch of different brands forget about H stroll for a moment let's say the person's not that careful about H stroll but he's got the briers and the kondik The Good Humor Klein's ice cream Etc and then it says well since you asked for vanilla ice cream you're limiting my options obviously it would be Kleins because if you if you only have one option like you said ice cream it would be Kleins uh D what do you say agree or disagree with Benny um I'm actually going to disagree with Benny uh he'll disagree with Benny and X will get the square the answer is Kleins the other brands cut back on milk fat to save money they are not regarded by the government as real ice cream they are an iced milk dessert but Klein and hogendas and Ben and& Jerry's they are real ice creams Benny what did I tell you complicated or what uh we have we have um s here who I think is an amazing position on the board sorry should I guess where you might want to go which celebrity you can guess if you'd like would it Hana great guest Hana we have a question for you you all set BN ready let's go which of these performers did not which of these performers did not record a cover of Lenny Solomon's minion man a the maab Beats B Eighth Day C the skiing Rabbi Rabbi shinefeld D yid cor from Australia which a lot of pressure pressure I have a performing master class I got to pull this off um I actually don't no say me one more time just read me those names one more time a is the maab Beats B is Eighth Day C is the skiing Rabbi Rabbi shinefeld and D is yid cor from Australia um I am going to go with the maab Beats because I am a big fan of their work and I don't remember hearing the minion man on any of their albums choice is maab sorry what do you say agree or disagree I don't have a clue statistically I think I'm best off disagreeing she disagrees that the maab beats and Lenny Solomon have an AC capella version of Minion man the answer is Eighth Day I think Benny knew that and their ex gets the square and we say congratulations to sui and we send her boss packing Siri will continue on and face her by Gluck in the final more coming up everybody keep it here at Holy squares hello hello everybody stop what you doing Merl hi hey what's going on what's up mitv Nation this is n black hi it's Charlene Amo and I'm so excited to connect with you over at se hi million Tessa it's your friend Mary K wishing you a happy birthday the yares are having an anniversary 30 years Nama your cousin Eric reached out to me this is going to be my performance for your wedding I know that many changes are taking place Gabriel but nothing can stop you of our Mitzvah each Mitzvah that a person does Connects them more and more to has I cannot believe how incredibly imature and capable you both are happy birthday liy happy birthday you have any idea what a special day it [Music] is welcome back to the final round of Hool squares created for and presented in support of amudim we have our two finalists with us you know the rules our celebrities are ready Su Eller who is a social work intern in am mudin is at The X Podium Sor good luck to you and Rabbi Glu he's at the Circle Podium he of course is the leader of amudim and he's ready for the final round Rabbi GL good luck to you thank you very much you w the toss backstage choose a celebrity please since I'm planning on opening up the amudam restaurant I'm going to have to uh go with Elon to make sure that he takes good care of me interesting choice this question actually happens to be about food while quinoa Elon has become a major part of pesak diets and is well on its way to giving potato based non gabr products a run for their money this wasn't always the case in fact when it first got on the radar of the kosher Community many were ready to add kitney add the quinoa rather to the list of kitos why was this is it because of a it was from South America where a lot of kitos eating spard were from is it B Because of its high gluten count is it C because of its genetic cousin to corn or is it D because in its country of origin it's often processed like grain what was the reason that quinoa was hesitant to be used by ashkenazim that's a great question uh as you know I'm a big quinoa fan been eating it for since I was a kid um K kinas Sushi By the way on PES was fantastic but um so okay so read me the questions again the answers again and I I have the answer a because it's from South America lots of spart and we're from there uh B Because of its high gluten count C because it's a genetic cousin to corn and D because in its country of origin it's often processed like grain what was the reason that people were hesit D says D Rabbi Gluck do you agree or disagree with his answer so I have you know I got to be very careful here because I obviously can't go with the Sparty answer cuz then I'm going to lose Charlene as a friend so I'm going to stay away from that you know we got to keep oury sisters in check um but I will agree uh with Elon on this answer Elon said D the answer is D because in its country or it's often processed like grain and circle gets the square and we move on to sori which celebrity are we going to Sor I'm going to go with Charlene I think it has to be Charlene Charlene we have Olympic question for you as the 2020 Summer Olympic Games in Tokyo have become a nid to 2021 and maybe even later than that here's a question uh the first Jewish American to win an Olympic gold medal was Meyer primin in 1900 and 1904 at the Paris and St Louis games he brought home gold in which sport a polo B lacrosse C fencing D track I actually know the answer to this because we were talking about it with the kids at the shabat table one night the answer is C fencing all right I thought the question was complicated uh all right sorry are you agreeing or disagreeing I'm going to kind of have faith that Charlene is a nice person like I think she is I'm going to agree with her the answer is track circle gets the square and Rabbi Gluck in a very good position uh Rabbi Gluck who are you choosing we're going to go with uh let's go with mayor K oh mayor K interesting point mayor remember you know we got something going on so we know we don't play games here you know many things going on Tic Tac Toe strategist might question Rabbi Gluck on this Choice uh mayor here we go your question is also Olympic related you might recall or you may have heard from prior Generations that Mark Spitz represented the United States and the Jewish Community very well with a record seven gold medals at the the 1972 Summer Olympics in swimming he went to sh that Russia sha and because he was such a celebrity he ended up sitting next to a future president of the United States which one wow fantastic question s thanks for entrusting me with this power move right now your is making power moves and this is no different right here right now so I won't let you down my friend I want let you down Russia sh as we all know shows a power a great time to to to meet new people and create connection and this was a big big Russia shunter for this gentleman indeed um so without a doubt this one have would have to be uh good all um Teddy Teddy Roosevelt Teddy Rosevelt now one second I thought you're supposed to give four options no we don't sometimes will do a true or false question we'll sometimes do uh mayor it might be a good idea for me to just transmit to you the question one more time in the 1972 we're good 19 we'll definitely go with that in the 1972 Summer Olympics Mark Spitz brought home to California's seven gold medals he was such a celebrity when he got to sh that Russia sha he was sitting next to a future president of the United States who was it mayor future president um that's a great question a future president uh so president that wasn't before 1972 of course without a doubt um a a friend to the Jews someone who was uh Florian charismatic he always found his way though he wasn't Jewish himself um JFK was uh someone who would just pop into sh once in a while and try to like the Jewish F well we've certainly learned a lot about mayor K in this conversation uh Rabbi Gluck do you agree with the John F Kennedy answer I'll tell you what I agree with I agree with the fact that mayor K is amazing and straight face no matter what comes out of his mouth and always with a smile I'm going to respectfully um disagree in 1972 the the uh governor of California at that time was future President Ronald Reagan and he was sitting next to Mark Spitz and his California synagogue I'm goingon to have to take responsibility for this one I failed in my mission uh sorry tough board for you where do you want to go which celebrity really really just want to beat SP here I think um so I'm going to go would definitely I heard I got a raise so I'm going to go with Benny all right Benny Freeman you ready for this [Music] question well I hope you are I was borley here we go the first art scroll publication Benny the first art scroll publication was a not there the art scroll sitter B millas Esther C millas Rus or D the art scroll ha great question I'm going to go with um Teddy Roosevelt that's funny because mayor K said uh who did he say again JFK and I actually read the whole history of the art scroll uh recently so what's the what's the uh what were the options again a the art scroll sitter b migil sester c migas Rus D the Arts girl I am going to very confidently go with option D did you say b or d doid d as in the art scroll ha sorry AG or disagree I respectfully disagree she disagrees the answer is migas Esther and X gets the square and we move on with like luck you do have an opportunity here who do you want to call on um I guess I'm going to you know have to go to my savior even though he didn't change his hat or change the color of the Hat Ellie schel don't let me down baby Ellie schel Center Square for the victory how fitting the director of amudim its Chief the person in charge could end up being the Victor in this competition Ellie all this on your shoulders here we go the question is uh what does the word Torah mean is it a to teach B history or C happiness um I'm going to have to say first of all Torah MOA Torah is the Moa TOA Moira but it also how can I say that it means to teach if I also experience happiness and and there's so much history in there and I think it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people sh so the answer is all three baby but if you had to say one of them I'm going to have to say happiness RAB his answer is happiness do you agree or disagree so you know one of the main goals that we have at amudam is to make people happy so we're going to go with the opposite approach that we did last time and this time I'm going to agree and say that we want to bring happiness to people and if we do things correctly we could bring them happiness however before I give my final answer Phil I must say that I've never heard of Torah meaning happiness yet so uh um I am actually agreeing in theory that we want to bring happiness to people but I am going to disagree with the answer for the purpose of this question to the game the word Torah means to teach circle gets the S Rabbi is the champion thanks so much for tuning in to this edition of holy it sares all right all right [Music] so first off we want to say thank you to Amud first of all what's your name okay oh you want to start off like that I mean we're talking to a whole new audience I know it's true uh I'm y linger what's your name my name is Naki Gordon nice to meet you and we're here to discuss our favorite moments the most powerful moments from meaningful people podcast yes which we host together and we have really incredible people but so first of off I want to say thank you to s for being one of our first guests being so vulnerable and just talking about amudim and the organization and what they do it's it's mindboggling you remember yes I remember I know you're going with this I know I called him the garbage man of Cl I wasn't going to say that I don't even remember that I was going to say do you remember after just like looking at his phone like how much it blew up I I think that the statistics that you know they put out are just like maybe sometimes you think oh these are just numbers but when we were able to sit down with s and discuss with him each number represents a person in crisis really czy and it's it's just wild so you know C says this all the time and we just Echo it that the day that amudam is able to just close down and cease to exist is going to be a beautiful day right but as long as they're not please uh give them money um so we want to go through a few of our moments nak we didn't have to we wanted to we want to go through a few moments um okay so we're going to break it down this is I'm just talking from my heart so I have it written down over here noi Roberts we had which I think it was your first time ever meeting him right my first time meeting noi you've heard about him a little bit it happens to be somehow related to my my brother's wife the Hassan family originally from jalter so ah so um is everyone jalter related is it jalter or jalter jalter I keep forgetting I know I also thr jalta you went to jalta yes did you land on Water I did not okay but people do people land near there yeah I supposed to take off to leave from there but this unfun fact about jalter is that when you go there it's there's Al like very often storms so I had to actually drive to Spain and I needed my passport to was so not worth it so I definitely don't recommend to land or take off from the water there like in a plane like a water no no no not like that that's what I'm talking about oh no talking about a Runway next to water the runway is literally next to the ocean and you can see Morocco it's I'm talking about like one of those water jet planes no oh no I did not no that would be so cool I know and I'd be so scared to do that one stereotypes I think I think that maybe would have been safer cuz it's prepared to land in the water either way um so we had noi Roberts and he said a lot of things definitely check out the full episode but there's one story that I I was blown away by and I'm here listen to the story you said a lot of stuff to me a lot of stories and inspiration that sh says about you like I don't know 5 years ago there's one particular story and I think it's it it makes sense with what you just said now that maybe you could share I don't know if it's like a very private thing and I'll reference it hit me cigarettes oh okay I'll say it yeah I'll say it it's it's not a comfortable story to share that's why I'm asking and maybe I'll offset it you're so kind for asking on the air'll edit so kind so cool you want to know something the more real this interview I think the more ill touch people listen and the more staged the more wooden it'll feel so I appreciate it and I will share it and I'm not comfortable it it it irks me and I feel it wasn't even my place and so many times in history I've gone through through that story in my head did I do it right did I not do it right and I really believe with hasham I think I did the right thing I was I was Jala to give the story some context is is pretty much like a dutyfree shop in in in in an airport right there's no Duty on cigarettes there's no Duty on alcohol it's much cheaper um there than most places in the world and I I wasn't in jalter very long I mustn't it could even have been in my first year that I was there and I got a phone call if I'm not mistaken it was late on a Sunday night and a guy said to me hi this is X Y and Z and I I said no not ringing any bells I don't know who you are he's like yeah okay doesn't matter I know who you are that's never a comfortable thing to hear you know late at night yeah we're listening in we got and and he said is it possible you can come and meet me now I said is it is it urgent he goes yeah yeah it's urgent I said where are you he was actually next to the runway in jalta the runway in jib here's a cool piece of information there are like Railroad Road barriers that come down when the plane has to land cuz the plane lands across the road that we drive through into Spain so he's I'm right by the runway I okay so I I I have a little motorbike so I went down there and I met this guy and then I recognized him I know the family he married into in England and it pains me to say this but he was what you would call a from guy okay P be right and if that's what qualifies you right but he and he said I need your help so I'm like getting getting ready ined mode yeah of course what can I do for you and he says I've bought a camper van does that make sense like a you know yeah rvh type thing right and he says well there's going to be we're going to replace the bottom in it it's going to be a fig and we're going to put cigarettes in it we're going to we're going to smuggle them across the border and I'm going to make a fortune I'm I'm maybe 22 years old something like that and he looks at me and says I just need someone to buy the cigarettes every day store it in a house I'll do the rest just once a month I'll come I'll take it out your house and he was offering me some exorbitant amount of money per month to do what I said $5 million okay I'm it wasn't 5 million but uh it was a lot of money it was it was well more than a regular salary a month to do his dirty work for him but maybe even legally I don't even know you know buying cartons of cigarettes holding them in boxes and then he can come and take them and legal or otherwise I just looked at him and instinctively something took over inside of me and I just looked at this older more established guy and I said to him do you believe in God do you believe in Hashem and it's like this was not the setting for a musm right and he looked at me like with disdain so to speak I said answer the question and he kind of shifted from foot to foot he said yeah I said do you also believe that on rash fixes exactly what you're going to make for the year he's like yeah I said then this isn't it this this this can't be right no I won't help you and I walked away and then a plane landed and hit his van you wish unfortunately if I think he spent some time in jail for other smuggling offenses and it just doesn't make sense to me it doesn't make if it's if it's wrong and it's not right and it's illegal don't do it who are you going to trick I understand people feel desperate a time I and I get that bit but that's not the answer and maybe let's offset that story with a much nicer story I'll tell you yeah I wouldn't say for that one guy who's smuggling cigarettes out of jolta right now it's super awkward listening to this podcast he's like oh my gosh maybe I'll listen to music on to me yeah okay so I want to break down this story for everyone go ahead break it down so I I went to noi in 200 15 2016 and still I we had a great job us and I didn't know him that well but that that story stuck with me it was so powerful to hear like in that moment noi like had the opportunity to make a lot of money and okay just he and technically wasn't doing anything illegal could have gotten away with it and still he's like do you remember the story cuz obviously we just played it but I know but when we're talking to each other we're just talking and we're not watching it so it sounds like out of context like something illegal but no I I know you're talking about that was really an incredible story and it takes a lot of you know just you know being planted and having knowing where roots are and and not and not faltering so as a as a person that was really an incred I think one of the best parts of of Hosting this podcast is is the ability to meet such amazing people yeah so true and become friends with I mean not all of them not like friends lot lot of them we have relationships with follow with um so yeah who who who who I I think the answer is both for both of us who texts you the most or messages you the most of our guests yeah like that I'm again I I become friends friends with like probably Benji Epstein yes me too Dr Benji is the man hewes Benji Epstein but there are others there are others as well for sure something that you know we have is that we sometimes forget the the the episodes that we put out and who we've done them with because there have been so many at this point yeah so I wouldn't even even remember it but you know what transitioning into a really incredible moment that I loved I loved we were um we had the honor of of traveling one Sunday morning to Deal New Jersey um awful rainy day I got a ticket no no no no that was time that was a different time oh gosh um this is why we don't like traveling for episodes and we went to Yakov shaki yes it was an amazing amazing um episode we we went to his house yeah we set up in his house and in a living room over there and he was telling us a story that I thought was so incredible and this is it we were doing a a kumit album my first kumit album not talking about those were the days that I did lately and brought back a lot of the older Jewish music music that the youth actually should know what beautiful songs we had first comes this album my my manager and producer back then my dear friend Yohi briskman who have tremendous aaru I was with him for 15 years and he tells me yov I found out all the songs who composed what because we want to give credit to the composer you know we're singing songs some of them passed away some of older songs you want to give credit you want to write inside who composed what one song this nobody knows nobody knows who composed the song I said I got to find out somehow I [Music] cannot it's a stunning song that I sing in my house in this house every shabas and we don't know who wrote it I get out of the studio I get a phone call from my Aunt Sarah Mala who's at sadas still living barash my father's sister her husband passed away but she's still living and giving classes to so many people and helping so many people she goes I said Auntie Sarah why do I have this host that you call me at 11:00 at night she says my friend is very very sick with muscular distrophy I sleep by her a few times times a week and the one thing she appreciates is your songs and music would you able are you able to come ever to to visit her I said in Sarah actually I'm in Brooklyn right now is it too late she goes no no the whole family is here I'm here actually now the whole can you come all right I shoot right over I start singing this she I I proceed to go there there's a room and this woman unfortunately laid out on this hospital bed and all the children around her all her children and she only can move her eyelids through the letters of the computer and tell and say a b c iive Bas and very hard to for her to get one sentence out but she tells me I told her I have plenty of time I want you to tell me exactly the songs you want to hear and I'll sing it she proceeds to tell me how much she loves Mama R and how much it means to her start singing the song the kid starts singing a along and you see her eyes even just a little bit you see the joy you see the joy even even if she can't move her body and show but you see in her eyes sometimes in their eyes you could see everything and you see that Joy emanating coming through I start to get emotional she gets emotional the kids get emotional starts sing and I proceed to sing sh and a lot of the songs that I do finally I say you know what plenty of time she goes okay what were you working on today today I said I I did a medley I said you know what's funny I did a medley and I did one of my favorite songs and nobody knows who composed the song she goes what's that it's a back and forth conversation for a while I start to sing and I sing and the husband says it's funny that you mention it I composed that song who I was 14 year I think he was 14 or 16 I'm not sure sure I composed that song in Camp called Reena when I was a teenager he is an artist today he's an artist for a long time I think a famous artist rabona win rib composed the song his wife unfortunately you know passed away after many many torus but that song that night that time that place Hashem was was able to take me by the hand through my Auntie Sarah who gave me a big to sing for a person that was suffering and give them a little Joy you know in their sorrow but at the end of the day he composed that song and I was able to Hashem you taking me by the hand you're leading me by the hand through every detail of life even when I'm searching for a composer of a song you're giving me a to sing for his wife who suffering but yet able to understand your ways and seeing that there is a path and there's a path for everyone there's a path everybody has to find not everybody's going to do it through music or do it through the public stage but by why why Jacobson said a beautiful line one of the greatest lines I've ever heard and I heard this and I told him this by the way and because I did a I did a whole thing with him by the way this house through the Corona virus this room and that studio over there became like a a concert hall and it was unbelievable time for CLA Stoll and also the power of music I saw it through the virus how much it hundreds of thousands of people reached out to me around the world saying how they're they're they're thirsty give me something and music was able to be that food that spiritual food and I was able to to do something R by y why Jacobson one of my favorites and he said something so beautiful and he he I don't know who he quoted but he said what is true love what is true love he said you know what true love is he says real true authentic love is finding the song that's playing in someone else's heart and singing it to them when they have forgotten it is sometimes sometimes people forget their own song but you have to be there you have to be there in a way especially with real songs and real music and awaken that Spirit back up we suffered a lot now we as a Jewish people suffered tremendously and there are people not every single person knows a person that passed away through this virus and the 45 people in and the and of course you don't want to sulk in the sadness but it's an emotional time but it's a time to sing within and find the song within and to sing it also to somebody else and find a way or wherewith all to unify as one and because when we sing that song together no matter what song it is you could be a spartic guy you can be whatever whatever person you are whatever background you have but when we sing together that's when wants to bring us together in thees to sing and everybody and by the way what is harmony harmony is a different song Right Harmony if you solo the Harmony in a studio it's like what song you singing But when you put it together with the melody that's when true Harmony come together everybody has a different song different background different in my own household my father's faric my mother's ASAS but when we sing that Melody together it's the greatest Harmony in the world so yeah just the amazing part of that story I just think is you see how brought this is his aunt asked if he could visit this family um who love his music and that's all the while he's working on this album and this song kiat who who wrote the song who wrote the song and you're able to find who wrote the song and you just see how piece by piece by peace comes together and I think I said this the last Amud in peace we did maybe but if you like look at your life maybe I don't know I feel okay it's just so amazing yeah it's just so amazing how especially when you say stories and you're like well that's crazy that that happened this and that's just like that's a life that's the life of a yid who looks at their life and they're able to see like getting from A to B to C to D is not random it's just like it's so there's so much divine presence in each moment in the moment it feels random but like you're like you're saying you look back you look back and it's like whoa that's I don't know who said it but someone wrote every single person can write a book in amuna every every single person you just look at your life you go write a book of auna cuz every moment a lot a lot of times in retrospect and that might be the itahara like in the moment you can't notice it you can't be like oh well this was right you know cuz then we yeah it' be too easy if if we knew it that's a really beautiful moment okay another moment so you're talking about getting a ticket on our way you it wasn't with yakos shaki it was with ruen Feinstein it was so I this is the next most powerful moment that I want to mention is is this moment this my mother told many years later and I was not going to question my mother and father about the situation uh they brought to M but somehow we after my father was dead already and what he we're talking once about Lan about the town she said you know why he made a mik because the butcher came to him and told him that that he can't live without a woman can't live with his wife and so he's going to go to the shik so uh sha told him uh wait two two weeks I'll have a mik for you and he made the B house into a mik and about that and most of them not extent something I don't know but but that's how he thought he did but he wouldn't use it himself in fact I believe that not only didn't he use it himself my mother could have gone to the river and doing the SU time but then people still think he went there wow it's 8 years until they came to R and then they got out that's that's a so in that moment um Reb Ruan like very Sly like was telling us that the story about his father and mother that for 8 years they weren't together um because because there was mkah issues and because and the crazy part was that Hally rosha found a way to make that mkah fine but just on the the the small chance that someone could see that re that that rosha and his wife that like oh they're going with a coola and he didn't want that so and like he said there was a river that that his mother could have gone to but still for eight years and that's why there was a giant Gap between Reb David Feinstein re ruing Feinstein and I don't know I just thought it was so natural and real of r ruing no he was so that whole experience was was um well at first it was completely scary frightening I was scared to death yeah me too like I my my heart yeah literally most episodes I'm like nervous going into a little bit then first two minutes I'm like okay calm cool everything I there was a point like I think 30 minutes into the ran episode we took sort of like a bathroom break like everyone everyone like walked away and that and when when we got back from that that was when I finally was able to just like stay calm and but I don't know there was something about being in front of a godal and especially because he looks like his father yeah he looks very much he looks like ra he looks like rosha and but this his voice I didn't anticipate his voice to sound like that you know I don't know why I don't know what random I know but I don't know why like you see like we have the opportunity to see pictures of gyum all day that are no longer with us rarely do you have video footage of them probably you know mem and whatever in 50 years 100 years people have videos of gum now but like I don't know leab shereba has a lot of videos of him but like I don't know fin scene if there are videos of him like I don't think there of him talking right or even sheer him like we don't Victor Miller we have so I just found it very interesting I'm like I wonder if OSHA's voice sounds like R ruan's voice it's interesting there are happens there are like there is footage online of rosha I think MD arish I was going to say is he arish cuz arish is respons I know he's awesome m arish is responsible for that but some like incredible footage ofo putting on filling Remo learning and it's it's like it's it was a different world you know they lived in the Lower East Side of Manhattan you know and it's just like the total world was coming out of the Lower East Side like that's and today what is what is the Lower East Side true there's still people there but you know what interesting I I think that's one of the most popular answers then we ask everyone who's one person from history that's no longer with us you want to sit with very often I think it's the most common answer people say RHA Einstein it is interesting that is interesting right I think I think I think you happen to be right I think most people do say that it's interesting we at amudim see all types of addictions from gambling addiction porn addiction sex addiction substance abuse alcoholism these are things that we sadly see a lot more than we would like to but it's the unfortunate reality of the times that we're in and therefore we need to be able to provide whatever help those that are suffering need you know first it was prescription opiates that he would buy from people and then the summer of 2013 he started using heroin addiction is something that affects many people all 02:56:00.950 --