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The Legacy of Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald
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Welcome back to the program. Mom, Zev,
Brener with us once again, Si Gluck. He
does so much for our community. He's
with Amuim with Zaka. You name it, he's
there. And we're here to pay tribute to
a very special man who also was there
for our community. I'm talking about the
legendary Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald of
Blessed Memory just passed away. A
founder of Cam Mugan Aram. Cam Sternberg
involved with some intrigue in the cold
war with sp with swapping spies but also
very much involved in on a day-to-day
basis. So, thank you for joining us. No,
please uh thank you for having me. I'm
sorry that it's for this topic though.
No, I'm sorry. It's under the he was I
knew Ronnie. I went to Mugan. I had him
on the air over the years. Very
interesting, very special person. You go
back with him even before you were born.
Yeah, that's true. And then uh my father
started work together for uh over a year
in helping cla.
So tell us because a lot of people know
him, a lot of people that are listening
may not be as familiar with him as they
should be. So how would you describe
Ronnie Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald,
a legend? There's no other word to
describe a man who literally lived
selflessly for everybody else. very very
humbled and really truly cared about
each and every person that came to him
for help and broke every barrier when it
came to bringing very very sensitive
topics in polyester to the forefront.
Now you're involved in dealing with kids
at risk and dealing with people of abuse
and dealing with runaway kids. You name
it, you're there. In a sense, Rabbi
Ronnie Greenwood was there even before
you got started in this. Yeah. Greenwald
was a legend. When I first entered this
field about 17 18 years ago, I had sat
with Rabbi Greenwald to discuss with him
what I was seeing and what I wanted to
do and took his guidance and direction.
and that's been carrying me for many
years up until two years ago when we
founded our own organization and he was
with us from day one of the chairman of
our advisory board and really involved
in in many aspects of many cases and you
know sleepless nights day and really I
mean there's just no words to describe
it. Now the Jewish community today, you
can talk about you can talk about sexual
abuse. You can talk about different
kinds of mental illnesses. You can talk
about all different issues that wasn't
the case 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40
years ago. And and a lot of pe times
people had issues and dealing with
families and dealing with their private
lives and there was very few people that
you could turn to, but Rabbi Ronnie
Greenwell was one of them. Rabbi Ronnie
Greenwell broke the barriers of publicly
talking about these topics. You know, as
long as I can remember and even longer,
whether it's the Igua Convention, Torah,
Misora, venues, you know, you name it,
he was up there. It didn't make it said
what needed to be said. He discussed,
you know, kids at risk, sexual abuse,
addiction, you know, he founded, you
know, a school in my academy for girls
for, you know, people that the girls had
nowhere to go. He always used camp as a
method to keep these kids close to him.
And he he he went in from the biggest
politicians to the biggest to the
biggest
lifest he knew no barriers. He did not
know how to not try to help somebody and
he did not shy down when he knew that
what he was doing was right. One of the
things that I think a lot of people
passed through his tutelage was the
camps of Ram and Cam Sternberg.
Muganavram was for boys. I remember when
I was there, it was at Livingston Manor.
It was in White Lake. It had a lot of
different carnations. Cam Sternberg. I
don't know if you went to Cam Mugget of
Rum, too. If you did, um, or perhaps you
can tell just some interesting stories
by Rabbi Ronnie Griml that you heard or
experienced. Well, the stories I really
can't say because they're mostly going
to be confidential. But my wife has been
the nurse, one of the nurses in Cam
Sternberg for the last seven, eight
years. And I can tell you that many
times issues came up in camp in the wee
hours, early hours of the morning, late
hours, at night, and he always got right
up on the forefront and dealt with each
individual camper as if they were his
own child. Many times, taking them back
after the summer to live by him, making
sure that they had a place to go. I
mean, just recently, this past summer,
he called me right after camp about a
girl that wasn't from for many years and
had a child and then decided to become
again. And as a single mother, it was
very difficult to get this kid into a
school. And he called me up and he said,
"There's no stopping. This girl, this
Jewish nish must be placed in a school.
There's nothing anybody can say about
it. Whatever the past was is
irrelevant." And he fought to nail and
barem. This is just one case that I know
about where the odds were stacked
against. No from school wants to uh take
in the product you know of such a
relationship and he pushed and pushed
and baram got it done and then when I
was relaying this story I kept hearing
many many more. So he really took an
interest in everything he dealt with as
if it was his own family.
that he certainly did and even though he
was getting on in years but from what I
understand he didn't slacken off from
doing what he did for the cl for the
community. I can just safely tell you
that I I was on the phone with him
yesterday
um about 6 pm he had sent me a message
to call him uh regarding a new case that
came up and he wanted to discuss the
details with me and there was no
stopping him at all and this is the
relationship that we've probably haven't
had two to three days that went by in
the last I would say two years that we
haven't spoken even when he was at or
when I was traveling there was always
something And uh he really I mean for me
for me personally I could say a role
model and someone who showed me that you
know you have to do what's right even
when it might not be popular.
No that's certainly the case. And by the
way you have seen how the Jewish
community has changed where people can
deal with issues today which I think is
healthy because if you don't want to
deal with issues it just gets compounded
and it gets worse. and you and I know in
your day-to-day work whenever I'm
calling you're involved and people
calling you from all different kinds of
communities and different places where
people reside all different problems
that that are there whether it's kids at
risk and dealing with autopsies and
dealing with all kinds of problems
you're there that's a sense is the new
activism
um it really is and it's people you
know Rabbi Ronnie Greenbold and people
like my father who
you know, also does and continue did and
continues to do so much for clients role
that really taught me and and shaped me
and molded it not just for me but for so
many people. I mean, my entire, you
know, staff has has been very very
close, you know, to Rabbi Greenwald and
I can't even tell you how many times
we've had questions of what to do and
the answer is always simple. Paul
Ronnie, he'll give us the answer. And it
may not be the answer that we were
expecting or it may not be the popular
answer, but uh that was him. That that's
what made him special. Who do you call
now?
Um that's a good question. I I I really
really don't know. I mean, this is the
person who broke every mold when it came
to these sensitive issues that we deal
with. And there's a tremendous void in
all of Kasro and all over the globe. I
mean, I could tell you stories whether
it was in Europe and Asia and in Africa
and the United States and Israel and he
he somehow had a fingerprint on
everything and he had a finger on the
pulse. I mean, he kept up with the times
and really, you know, age did not mean
anything to him. And there was no such
thing with him as we have to do it this
way because that's the way it was done
before. was always looking for new
innovative ways to help people, finding
new services, new programs, new
treatment centers, always on the go,
always running. I might add, by the way,
we're speaking with S. Gluck, director,
executive director of MMU,
evaluing with today's abusive situation
and other issues that come up very much
involved with the Jewish community. His
father is Rabbi Edgar Gluck, also an
Oscan community leader, who is among his
titles is currently the chief rabbi of
Galitzia, which he travels to uh as well
on a regular basis.
Yep, that's very true. So, as we close
out, if you had to sum up and say, what
is the legacy of Rabbi Ronnie Greenwald,
a blessed memory, who just passed away,
what would you say his legacy is?
to think of every person in pain as if
they're your own family and do for them
what you would do for your own family
whether you know them or
not. Now, as we close out, we focused on
the Gilas and the and the kindness and
the things that he did for the for the
community. There's just another book out
there about what he did in the Cold War
with trading spies. I'm sure you heard
about some of the stories. I know you
don't have firsthand knowledge, but what
do you know about his other activities
that he did, the intriguing stuff, the
stuff that was of international legend?
So, I mean, spending Shabas morning
after Davening in Camp Sternberg and
having Kesh with the rest of the staff
and hearing Rabbi talk about all the
different things that he dealt with was
something extremely inspiring.
And you know, he never really went into
much details on various cases. It was
always, you know, a good story, but
never to the point of breaking anyone's
confidence. But what we learned is that
while we were coming up with new stories
and new
problems, it was something that he's
already seen one way or another and knew
just what to say and how to say it to
help to help figure it out. But uh you
know it's there was never a week that we
didn't hear something new that we uh
were not completely amazed by the
amazing work that him and I have to
mention I mean his wife who is extremely
extremely close to us. I know my wife
very very close to her and and all of
his children that are involved in in in
having schools and involved in their own
communities. Indonesia you've been
involved everybody knows is involved in
tremendous amounts of
ais you know a girl cemetery there boy
also he's really you can tell who
somebody is by their family and the
people around them and this is somebody
that really was special
that he certainly was and we're going to
miss him I want to thank it sweet luck
for taking time out of your busy
schedule to give us a little glimpse
into the personality The life of Rabbi
Ronald Greenwald, the blessed memory, a
founder of Cam Smuggen of Ram and Cam
Sternberg involved a lot of work helping
people in need. Also involved in spy
swaps and other things that I'm sure
more stories will come out in the next
days and weeks and months. Speak luck.
Thank you for joining us. We should
speak for some. Thank you very much.
Amazing. We're going to be right back.
Don't go away. Stay tuned.