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Sports and Mental Health - Tamir Goodman and Eddy Curry
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Sports and Mental Health - Tamir Goodman and Eddy Curry
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Goodman I am so glad to be able to spend
time with everybody today and also
introduce you to my dear friend Eddie
Curry
um I remember one story practice uh when
I was playing for Coach David Blatt who
ended up coaching the Cleveland
Cavaliers in the NBA he one time shouted
out in basketball I said basketball is
90 mental 10 physical so uh coming from
the basketball space we focus a lot on
on mental toughness and mental health
and we're so grateful today that we
could learn from
from a very very special person and
player Eddie Curry
um Eddie uh and Patrice his his dear
wife were in Israel this summer and we
got to spend some great time and to get
really close
um and um so Eddie you know amadim is uh
is an unbelievable organization that
works Around the Clock serving thousands
of people uh helping them with any
mental health challenges that that they
make May encounter
um regardless of who they are what time
of day it is they're always there for
them so uh thank you for your time and
uh hopefully being able to to share your
expertise and knowledge with with people
that we could all gain from it so um
thank you so much Eddie we're glad to
have you yeah thanks for having me um
what an incredible cause just an
incredible uh platform that that you
guys have
um I've never heard of anything so so
like so good honestly uh you know you
you see uh
little blurbs here and there when you
watch some TV or when you when you're
looking at something on social media
that they think might trigger something
and they're like okay if you have a
problem you know dial this number
um but I think what you guys are doing
is much more just active and much more
just just being able to reach out to
someone 24 7 man and and just uh no
matter who you are and what you got
going on man I think that that's that's
so crucial because I mean mental health
doesn't come with like a schedule you
never know when when when something
might grab you and something might just
take over your mind and things might get
kind of dark for you so I think that the
fact that you guys are always available
the fact that this type of
um engagement is able to to take place
man I think that that's incredible and I
I'm just proud and happy to be a part of
it
uh thank you so much and we're glad to
be able to spend some time with you you
know Eddie it's it's almost impossible
to make it to the NBA it's like less
than one percent of the people in the
world and
um you have had such an incredible
journey uh can we start off where you
share a little bit about you know your
early days of basketball and maybe some
of the mental challenges that that you
may have to go through at such a young
age because already in high school you
were world famous everybody you know I
remember going to Envy NBA camp and and
everybody there was talking about you
and just at such a young age um maybe
talk to us a little bit about your
basketball background and and early on
like mentally how hard was that you know
going from high school straight to the
NBA
yeah uh for me I think uh going from
high school to the NBA
I think around the time NBA Camp
happened
um I think a lot of the hard stuff the
mental stuff kind of was already
I was so focused on basketball I really
wasn't even paying attention to the
mental part I think all of the mental
stuff happened before that and then
while I was in the NBA
um during that brief time that you saw
me I was kind of on cruise control and I
was kind of caught up in the I want to
be the best and I want to do this and do
that and I had started I started to
actually see the fruits of my labor I
started to see you know
um the payoff from carrying my
basketball around as a kid everywhere I
went
um choosing to not join the gang when
all of the gang members were were
getting together and doing knucklehead
stuff I started to see the payoff of you
know missing birthdays and missing
certain holidays because I got
basketball tournaments and this and that
um but as a as a child I didn't
understand that you know I'm as a kid
you think instant gratification you
think hey my birthday is coming up I get
a gift Christmas is here I get a gift
um if I do good Mom can I get some shoes
um I didn't have those type of parents
where I you know I I had the best of
everything I was always taller than
everybody so now I was a super tall kid
at school I didn't have good clothes
didn't have good shoes and I went to I
went to a school I lived in the
neighborhood where those type of things
matter to the kids that were around you
would get labeled as being a bum or
being being labeled as being just an
uncool person because you didn't have
what everyone else had so on top of not
having everything that everyone had I
mean I would go to school so I would
just try to uh disappear uh so much so
that
I found myself walking like almost
hunched over I was trying to be the same
size as everybody else and I'm head and
shoulders above everyone you know by
fifth or sixth grade I was taller than
all the teachers I was talking to all
the students and I'm the biggest kid in
school and I'm walking like a hunchback
because I really don't want to stand out
um to the point where even when you know
by the time seventh grade sixth seventh
grade rolled around I got to Middle
School
um I didn't even want to play basketball
I'm like no it's too it's just too much
it was too much for me and and thank God
I had the kind of parents that were like
no you're going to play basketball you
know you're going to find something to
do because they saw of course they
didn't look at it as like uh oh this is
gonna get you to the NBA because like
you said man that's like so far fetched
that's so far out of like that's like
okay I'm gonna go play the lottery one
time and hit the lottery it's like that
and it's like for them for my parents it
was more so just I want you to start
feeling like normal I want you to walk
around and be able to you know hold your
shoulders hold your hold your head high
because you're around other tall people
and you start to see that it's not just
you out here and you can be in an
environment that that people actually
um um praise you so I think that's where
it all started for me I think my parents
did a great job at paying attention to
like kind of my feelings and what was
going on when it came to just my
self-esteem um they knew that they
couldn't do a lot for me in terms of Mom
I just I just want this new this or that
but when it came to I guess
just having a pulse on my feelings and
emotions for the most part
um my parents were were were really you
know spot on with it now they had their
own issues my you know my my dad and my
mom you know they would go back and
forth they were fighting arguing things
like that
um but in terms of yes me I think they
did all they could to make sure that
myself and my sister mentally you know
were in a good place and and I always
appreciated them for that because
um man I understand uh growing up as I
got older I realized you know where I
was from a lot of kids didn't have two
parents in the household you know so
both my parents come in the
parent-teacher conference or both my
parents come into the game like that was
a foreign thing most times you only saw
the single mother or you only saw a dad
you know it was it was it was pretty
cool and it was pretty impact impactful
for me to have both my parents so much
so that when I look at it today
um that's been my main focus throughout
everything is keeping my family together
as I went through my trials and
tribulations as I've done you know as I
as I've done like uh you know
self-destructive things in my
relationship
um things that would have ruined other
relationships that's why I'm so close to
my wife now because I realized she could
have been gone man and I and everything
that was so crucial and pivotal to me
growing up I could have taken that away
from my kids and so I always praise her
and I thank her for that but um but yeah
man I mean we can we can definitely get
into it I mean it's a lot of you know
being a kid man
it's tough because a lot of times you
spend you spend your time just like want
people to take your pain serious and I
think a lot of times what I find with my
own children is everything they're going
through listen I I I I believe you I
believe you are feeling that but let me
tell let me try to let me try to help
you work through it let me try to tell
you what you can do to kind of manage
what you what you got going on and kind
of dictate
um try to put you in a place to where
you don't have to keep you know going
through this through this because some
of what you're going through is
self-inflicted and as a child they don't
know that they don't realize that by
them choosing today to not do a project
that's due two weeks ago uh two weeks
later that you know
11 12 days from now you're going to be
hit with some of the craziest pressure
that you've ever felt because now you
got a dirty room because you haven't
been cleaning your room you haven't done
your project and now you got to cram and
do this project you slipping behind in
other classes and and you trying to
still put on this facade to us the
parents has like everything is okay and
I'm on top of everything and and and as
a kid who put everything off in school I
could tell you like that's some of the
worst anxiety I've ever felt going to
school knowing that I haven't like
studied for a test knowing that I
haven't done a project waking up that
morning like that's that's crazy now you
add that to all the other things that we
have going on today with social media
and just and how important images to
kids and like it's it's compounded and
it makes it even crazier so
um at this point
I I've always been the person uh even I
talked to my wife about it like look we
got to take we got to take them serious
if they say they're hurting we gotta we
gotta believe them because they're
hurting they are hurting now if we look
at that problem and compare it to us
that it's not like the problems we have
where it's like okay how are we gonna
pay these bills how are we gonna do this
how are we gonna do that but believe me
it's still affecting them the same way
they still feeling the same anxiety
they're still feeling the same things
and I think that a lot of kids man like
I said they don't have those type of
parents that understand that what
they're dealing with is a real thing
it's a real pain it's a real uh
uncomfortable feeling and a lot of times
kids try to unfortunately take the easy
way out and say you know what I'll do
I'll do harm to myself or I'll do enough
things to where maybe I'll do this and
they'll see that that I'm for real
they'll see that I'm I'm really feeling
something and that's just what I try to
avoid with my kids and luckily for for
me like I said I had basketball things
did start getting better for me in
basketball as I saw the more I report in
basketball the more positive things
happen I started getting free shoes I
started getting free Nike gear I started
being able to dress a lot better and
honestly at that point I didn't even
care about dress no more because I was
so good at basketball
it didn't matter what I wore it was like
you know you I just it was different it
was a certain confidence that basketball
that that Sports gave me that I didn't
need the the physical things I already
had the physical gifts I didn't need the
clothes to go with it yeah and yeah
you're you know your heart is one of a
kind and the compassion you share for
for your kids and your family is just so
so amazing and
I'm always just so so amazed by by your
generosity and your care and you know
we've also spent some time you know for
Eddie's like for those of you watching
he's like seven foot well he's over
seven feet seven foot one and you know
it is you know people don't realize it
but it is very harmful it's like
everywhere we go together everyone
always comments not on you as a person
or your feelings or your emotions they
just comment on your height right away
they could have negative reactions or
different facial reactions when they see
you and you know it's it's very um it is
not always so welcoming and you know you
mentioned as a kid you were purposely
hunching over and so how did you gather
yourself at such a young age to say like
I'm gonna stop punching over and pick
myself up and and pursue basketball you
know like how did you get that strength
was it Inner Strength you mentioned your
parents did you meet a good coach did
you just start feeling good on the court
like like how can what what advice can
you share for someone that might be
going through something similar where
they have a hidden blessing but they
feel a little stuck where there's other
circumstances that may be holding them
back from pursuing it you know how how
can they how can they jump over that
fence
um for me I surrounded myself with
like-minded people
um I surrounded myself with the
basketball crowd I surrounded myself
with kids that were trying to do the
same thing I was doing they wanted to
try to find a gym they wanted to try to
find a hoop
um I met I became all my friends were
basketball players I didn't I didn't
gravitate toward the the other crowd
because I'm like that's not what I'm
trying to do I was I was focused
um it started like I said my mom and my
dad definitely uh appointed me at at
basketball they're like look okay cool
um you tall your middle school has a
basketball team you know let's do that
um and then my my my a lot of my
basketball friends when school started
it was like it became like okay let's
everybody we're gonna try out for the
team and we're gonna try and make the
team and we're gonna try to you know
keep this team together from now and all
the way through high school and then
we're gonna all go to the league
together so it became like a group
mentality
um almost like every everyone just kind
of had the same goal everyone had the
same goal to try to to try to make it
but it began with like I said my parents
pointing Me In One Direction and also
just having like-minded friends
um of course the the fast life seemed
more attractive to me at the time they
had a little money and they had that
family feel to them um I didn't spend a
lot of time with my parents growing up
because my mom worked 24 hours a day
almost and my dad he drove trucks all
across the country a lot of times it was
just myself and my sister
um but my dad was always really
my dad and my dad's side of the family
like his mom my grandmother they were
really religious
um everything was uh church I took a lot
of time in church spent a lot of time in
Sunday school spent a lot of time
praying my mom only really listened to
uh gospel music and so we had a very
like I mean I had a I had a really good
mix I think of religion and real life
and
um also like I said my mom and dad were
always there for me when I needed them
and they paid close attention to how I
was feeling
um I can't say that enough because I do
I do real I do think that if you don't
have that person something like what you
guys have
would have been great for me you know if
I didn't have my parents or something
like what you guys have would be great
for some of my friends who got who got
lost along the way who fell who fell
between the who fell you know and the
cracks because I'm sure other people
wanted to do what I did other people
wanted to hide a basketball friends but
some of that stuff some of the darkness
some of the distractions is right in
their house some of their parents were
selling drugs some of their sisters and
brothers were selling drugs and doing
different things so it was it was it was
closer to them and it was harder for
them to avoid for me
um you know I try to just stay on a
straight path I knew what I wanted to do
I didn't have any corruption in my house
I was lucky man I was lucky I was
blessed and I know for a fact that like
God wanted me to pull me I know for a
fact I couldn't have gotten through
certain situations without God I guess
there's no way around it it's just no
way around it you know you look at even
now when I look at how my life is
playing out is I just know it's God
because there's no way I couldn't have
done this my parents couldn't have got
me through once I once I left the house
it was all on me everything that's
happened since then I didn't I just been
winging it man I just been winging it
I've been praying a lot and I've been
just trying to just stay in tune with
just
really just trying to do the right thing
I just try to move with my heart I try
to do what God would want me to do and
um and I just pray a lot and I just hope
that I'm doing the right things to make
them happy
oh yeah you definitely are and um you
know that was two great pieces of advice
number one uh for everyone who's
listening that may be struggling
surround yourself with greatness you
know listen you know even if even if you
can't not everyone could be around
greatness like Eddie was saying like he
was found a group of players that were
all you know dream chasing and they were
positive and trying to find a gym and
find you know maybe not everyone could
get that opportunity but surround
yourself by greatness could also mean
you know listen to positive things
listen to positive podcasts this is a
positive people that are successful um
listen to positive music you know learn
from people that are successful you know
just surround yourself put yourself in a
situation as much as possible to be
around as much greatness as possible
that was that was such a great piece of
advice and the other piece of advice is
Faith you know having a strong
relationship with God could definitely
help us overcome and and jump over that
bridge like we were talking about
earlier so you know you were lucky
enough to have an unbelievable High
School career legendary High School
career and a legendary area against an
unbelievable talent and then you know
can you talk to us a little bit about
draft night you know what it was like
when they called your name and you got
to shake the commissioner's hand and
what what training camp was like
yeah uh okay so draft night man I ain't
gonna lie well draft night was like uh
by the time the draft came I was so
caught up in the I want to be the best
and I'm number one I'm the number one
player because like this was before this
was before uh you know the internet and
things like that
so I never met like the other top 10 or
whatever players I would see him in Camp
but by the time I would go to Camp I
would already know who was who and my my
people that were around me would be like
okay that's what they're saying is
number one that's who they're saying is
the best guard that's who they're saying
is okay now I know this now I know who I
gotta dominate right so I kept that once
I once I had that competitive like fire
in me and I'm like I want to be the best
quite naturally The Next Step was to try
to be the number one pick right so I'm
like I got to be the number one pick at
the time I didn't really care to be the
number one pick because I'm like
I wanted to be the number one pick but
if I wasn't I wasn't going to be mad
because I didn't necessarily want to go
play for MJ I had a I had a good
friendship with MJ at the time I had
known Michael Jordan since like
I don't know maybe like uh my sophomore
year in High School freshman year in
high school I've known Michael Jordan
um but
so I didn't I knew his personality
didn't quite like I didn't like how he
talked to me at times I'm like if I play
as a teammate of Michael Jordan and I
knew how he treated the other like I
just knew I mean you guys saw the
documentary probably so imagine how he
would have talked to a 17 18 year old
kid like come on man so I I was like you
know if I go there that'd be great uh
because I get to be a number one pick
out of high school like that'd be
incredible but if I don't I really
wanted to go to the clippers because I
was very I was friends with with Darius
and I was friends with q and I'm like
those are my brothers man I played AAU
with them I love the youth and the
exuberance that they played with the
fire the passion like it almost was like
when you watch their games you didn't
care if they won or lost it was just
like it was such a action-packed just
fun thing that they did man the style
that they played was so it was so
different so I was like I want to go to
the clippers but as it turned out the
Clippers drafted Tyson that night and
then my agent came to me and said okay
now with the third pick he said the
Clippers are going to draft Tyson so
that's out and I'm sitting there mad I'm
sitting at the table mad like man are
you serious man like come on man and so
he was like all right so you can either
go to uh he said you could either go to
uh the third pick was Memphis Grizzlies
he said you can go to the Memphis
Grizzlies or you can go to Chicago it's
it's your choice they live they
literally left it up to me it was in
between commercial break and I'm like
I'm like I'm not going to Memphis I just
go to Chicago and I was so mad I didn't
even realize like I'm too I'm able to go
play for my home team I was so mad that
I wasn't going to to the Clippers I was
like I just go and I was even more mad
because they were going to take Tyson
and I was like that's my enemy I can't
even believe you know what I mean like
they picked my enemy to go where I
wanted to go even though that was his
hometown later on I started thinking
like that was so selfish of me you know
what I mean because like as a as a he's
my brother now and I can't imagine
taking that opportunity away from my
brother to go play for his home team
like with his mom God bless her she
passed away but with his mom and his
family and everything that to be able to
do what I did like I I I I I feel I feel
bad now to this day just thinking like
that just my mentality but I was really
like nah man I don't care I need to go
there but anyway they they they they
drafted Tyson we're number two they
drafted Pau Gasol because I passed up
there so they got Pau Gasol in Memphis
and then I went to Chicago
and I can remember being in a I remember
right after they picked me my I go back
to my table and my agent is like they're
gonna make a trade they're gonna bring
Tyson they're gonna bring Tyson and
they're gonna send out Elton brand I'm
like no way and I was so happy first
because I get to have another High
School guy with me but really I was
happy because he didn't get to go to La
I was like yes
I was so like I was just so angry I was
just I don't know I was different it was
different than man you know but you know
when I got backstage though and I saw
Tyson interviewing he had the LA
Clippers hat on I never forget I go back
there and and he's talking to the media
he's got the camera on him and I see his
agent like leaning to his ear and tell
him something and he handed him the
Chicago Bulls hat and he had to take the
Clippers hat off and I and I saw the
disappointment I saw the disappointment
in his face and it made me it hurt me so
bad to see that but then I saw him just
hit a switch and and just be happy that
he was going to Chicago he's like you
know I was just like wow I really
learned a lot from that moment like okay
well I guess you could look at it as a
negative like I'm not going home but man
I'm still in the NBA like right but when
I looked at her like that I'm like wow
and then me and him we instantly hit it
off we became my best friends right away
I get to Chicago
I had already met Jamal Crawford because
I have been to a few Bulls games being
in Chicago you know they would have me
come to the to the games a lot I hope I
don't get anybody in Chicago in trouble
but I would go to I would go to the
games a lot uh I got to meet Jamal
Crawford early on so when I got there it
was like finally my brother I'm here and
he's like man so I mean that was that
was an incredible experience
um yeah getting drafted kind of just
really
it was so I knew I was going to get
drafted I knew I was going to be a top
pick you know I only worked out for like
three or four teams going into the draft
and I really could have worked out for
none of them but I really wanted to try
to be the number one pick so I worked
out for the Wizards I worked out for the
Bulls and I worked out for the Atlanta
Hawks I think they had like the fifth or
so or so pick because they were like you
know worst case scenario you'll go here
so let's just go work out for them just
to make sure
um but so I really wasn't I really
honestly went in there with no pressure
I just really wanted to go to uh to the
Clippers man honestly and but but once I
actually left New York and went back to
Chicago I was like okay
I like this I like this I like the feel
of being a HomeTown kid
um they were okay the city embraced us
they knew that we weren't going to win
right away not like not like MJ had just
won there and they still came out and
they still supported and they still
treated us like like royalty in Chicago
and to this day like anywhere in Chicago
I go I don't really pay for meals I
don't it's just so dangerous there I I
kind of I kind of don't go as much as I
as I really would want to just out of
just because it's just so dangerous
there I wish I could really help my city
more but
um but yeah man back then though I mean
I had an incredible incredible time in
Chicago on the court for sure yeah so
um thank you and that was another great
piece of advice we learned for anyone
that's struggling uh that we learned
from Tyson Chandler when you know that
story about switching the hats he's like
I just lost a lot but you know I'm going
to focus on what I can control and what
I do have instead of what I don't have
and what I can't control and and you
know he made the best of the situation
and ended up having a great career you
ended up playing in the NBA for over 10
years which is unbelievable ended up
winning a championship uh with the Miami
Heat and LeBron James
um what's like three moments from your
NBA career positive moments that that
that you think of when you think about
your career that the first top three
things that come to mind when you think
about like cool things that happen on
the court while you were playing three
positive moments won the court on the
court yeah on the court
man
I would have to put it all like all like
meeting the players that like I idolized
meeting the players that just looked
magical to me Allen Iverson uh Vince
Carter Kobe Bryant Shaquille O'Neal
walking up to those guys man
and for them to call you by your name
it's like how do you know my name you
know you still in this like how do you
know me bro like you know I remember the
first time I saw Shaq we were playing uh
we were playing the Lakers in Chicago
and the whole time I'm warming up you
know I'm watching him warm up and I'm
trying not to make eye contact with him
because he's just such a big person I've
never seen him before I'm just watching
this dude warm up I'm just like this is
crazy and so I'm laying down on the
ground like a half court getting
stretched out by the trainer I'm looking
at him and every time he looked at me I
like look away and then one time I
looked at him and made eye contact and I
noticed he was walking in my direction
and I'm like oh my goodness and I'm like
I look again he's getting closer he's
getting closer and he's right up on me
I'm just like okay I gotta make a
decision I just stood up
he he he I reached my hand out to shake
his hand and he just hugs me he like
bear hugs me and he was like man I've
been watching your show man I feel like
I know you I've seen it because I had
this show that came on in high school I
thought the show only played in Chicago
I had no idea this show was playing
around the country he's like I used to
watch your show preps every day man he
was like I would be late to the bus
trying to figure out what was going to
happen if your car was going to get
fixed and this and that and this and
that he was like where are your parents
where are your parents and I pointed to
my mom she was she was standing right
there at half court and he ran over and
he was like Mom I love you I love you
you hug my mom and he's like he's like
I'm gonna take care of your son and and
I promise you man he was like I'm never
gonna do anything to uh
I'm never gonna do anything to embarrass
you I'm never gonna do I'm not like in
my whole career man every time I play
Shaq he's never tried to dunk on me he's
never tried any time he one time he
accidentally elbowed me he he apologized
to me mid game like I'm so sorry man
like I didn't even know that was you I'm
so sorry like he caught the ball and
just turned and just went up and I just
took all of it like all of my my neck
and everything and he's like I'm so
sorry I didn't even mean to do that and
it was just kind of like the unwritten
thing like he just would not do any like
we would be on the side we would be on a
free throw line waiting to go in and
he'll just say make it look good you
know act like he'll just act like he's
fighting for the rebound but really he's
not he's like he's taking it easy and
then I come out the game and I would
watch what he would do to Brad Miller
and watch what he would do to other
Sinners on my team and it was like oh my
goodness I'm that's what I'm avoiding
thank you like it was crazy it was crazy
man it was such an incredible time I
think that was I think that's one of
that's one of the most incredible
moments for me I think another moment
for me is um just having a good game
like to have an incredible game in the
NBA is crazy to yeah to hit a shot and
have the crowd react every time because
they they're with you they see you
rolling they see you got it going be I'm
at the free throw line and they chatting
MVP in Chicago like I've had that happen
several times I've had it happen in New
York I went on a run in New York where I
where I scored like 20 points in like a
bunch of games in a row and it was like
people were coming to the game to see if
I was gonna get 20 that night it was
crazy
um
and I've been hitting the three I hit a
three to send the game into overtime in
uh and Milwaukee and the whole time my
whole career I've always like man I want
to just hit a three you know this is
before this was It was kind of frowned
upon for Bigs and shoot threes even
though I knew I could shoot threes and
my coaches knew I could shoot threes
from from practice and stuff like that
but I had never done it in the game
and Isaiah Thomas called a play for me
to for me to uh for me to tie the game
up for three and I never forget I
couldn't and to this day like I'm
telling you it was just all God man like
I probably I probably would miss that
shot I probably would miss that shot
Maybe
just from where I shot I don't I never
liked shooting like from the sides I
always like shooting from the top or
from the elbow and where I hit that shot
from I probably would miss that shot
eight out of ten times man and I hit it
all net over over Dan gazuric jumping
out as hard and as high as he can to
contest the shot and I switched it to
send the Box send the game into overtime
and it was in Milwaukee all my family
was at the game because Milwaukee and
Chicago was really close in proximity so
everyone drove up had my dad sitting
course side my parents all like it was
crazy it was crazy it was so and and I
was having an incredible game like that
was to get like I think I scored ended
up end up scoring like 43 points that
game we won in overtime like incredible
incredible feeling incredible feeling
wow thank you so much for sharing that
and yeah no doubt that Shaquille O'Neal
is absolutely one of a kind I've
actually received one of his uh
legendary hugs in real life too and he
is there's nothing like getting a hugged
from him but it's just like
the hidden charity he does the heart
that he has the kindness that he shares
with the world is really unique he's
he's definitely one of the most special
people out there Israel this summer
spending time in Jerusalem with you and
Patrice was like Unforgettable for for
our family
um something will always cherish
um and uh when I say Israel you know
what comes to mind for you from from
your traveling here to Summer peace man
honestly just peace I have never felt
that
I didn't even realize I was walking
around with that kind of tension you
know honestly because I consider myself
to be a really optimistic guy no matter
how dark things are I've always been
that guy that's like yeah I know this is
happening but but this but we're here
Patrice we're breathing we're alive but
when I got off that plane man when we
got to you
and got to the hotel I'm I'm just like
I just I don't know everything just let
go I just I just remember that feeling
of everything just being let go and I
can remember
just looking at Patrice and she had the
same feeling like I knew it was just it
was just we've been together so long
we're so yeah and I know you you know
how it is with with your wife man you
just kind of connected you just know
because I can remember yesterday man
like I had some really good things
happen even this like this is a great
thing for me to be able to do this this
is a great thing I look at this as an
opportunity to to just keep sharing my
story keep talking and keep like keeping
myself out there and hopefully I can
help somebody
um and
I had something really good happen the
other day and I'm telling Patrice like
man I'm looking at her and she's looking
at me and I'm like I just don't know how
to act I've been soaked for so long I
tried to be good I try to do things the
right way and I've been close to things
being good for me and then sometimes
they'll just flip the other way so much
so that when something good happens I
started to think like man is the Royal
gonna get pulled from under us like I
don't even want to be happy about it I
don't know how to be happy I don't know
how to celebrate I don't know how to
bring bring positive to my wife because
I because then you find out one you you
find out a few minutes later that it's
not gonna happen or it didn't happen or
something else happened and now I gotta
look at the pain in her face because she
thought we were just and we just
literally talking about this and she's
crying and she's like man you know we
just gotta have faith and I'm just like
I know but it was just it was just it
was just an incredible moment for me
because I realized she knew exactly how
I felt and I think that that for me like
I just I've been so lucky and so blessed
man to have those type of people around
me man like I feel like I I lived a life
early on full of jazz greed and not
necessarily Greed for money because I
was never a money guy if anything I was
a little too generous like I want
everyone to feel how I felt going to
going to Jerusalem I want everyone to
feel that feeling I want my whole family
to come I know I know like as far as
like money-wide money goes I probably
could not I probably would never be able
to afford to bring my whole family to
Jerusalem but I'll try and I'll spend my
last to try to do that and that's just
always how I've been and
but when it came to women and it came to
infidelity I needed everything I'd seen
a pretty girl I like pretty girls I like
this like I was greedy and I had to
learn that I had everything that I that
I wanted everything I needed right in
front of me and the more I poured into
this person that was right in front of
me the more she pulled back the more she
completed me man and the more and the
better I felt about myself I felt better
as a man I felt better I felt good
because I was able to to just just I
don't know man I just felt like I was
doing the right thing I don't know
really how to describe it I just felt
like I was doing the right thing I felt
like that was more aligned with who I
was as a person because I felt like I
had it everywhere else but I just didn't
have it there and I feel like that was
the final piece and once I started
Living like that man I'm telling you
there's been a certain it's been a
certain peace and comfort and optimism
that I've never had before and going to
Jerusalem really kept that off for me
because I had my wife with me there and
it was how it was supposed to be and I
know we both felt that release at the
same time and since then man things have
been so so beautiful for us so I thank
you for bringing us man I just thank
Eric you know Eric everybody that was
involved man everybody Bradley everyone
that was involved man like it's just
beautiful man I look forward to coming
back you know I still talk to all some
of the guys
on WhatsApp man I'm just I'm just happy
man and I thank you for having me today
yeah thank you so much my dear friend
please send my love to Patrice and the
entire family everybody in Jerusalem
misses you guys as well and look forward
to being in touch and thank you to
everyone who who tuned in to listen to
us today Eddie you were incredible as
always and um
let's just give a joint blessing to
everybody out there that that's
you know having a hard time with their
mental health
um just you know you everyone should be
blessed with only good news and like
Eddie just said there's nothing like the
feeling of overcoming a challenge and
and and feeling the uniqueness of of
reaching your own inner potential by
overcoming each Challenge and realizing
the challenges are just opportunities
for growth and not something to break us
and um uh I wish everybody only
blessings and success
and Eddie will finish with your blessing
just give everybody a blessing yeah man
I I just want to Second what you said
man I just I wish everyone
happiness man and and peace and calm
like I I understand the happiness and
peace and calm it can be a uh attached
to a financial thing but
but man I found my fault my most happy
moments weren't attached to money they
weren't attached to fame they weren't
attached to this basketball game it was
attached to people around me it was
attached to me appreciating who was
around me it hurts to lose people I lost
a child man like there's no pain like
losing a child but I've got so many good
people around me man I felt like it
would have been selfish for me to to
start really just dwelling on the few
people that God called early you know
there's so many people still here and
I'll be doing myself a disservice and
I'll be doing my ancestors that passed a
disservice if I didn't try I'm gonna
keep trying to my last breath I'm gonna
keep trying to to make a happy Aura
around me to where anyone that comes
into contact with me you're gonna feel
it you're gonna be happy you're gonna
feel optimism you're gonna know that
it's a brighter deadhead and I just wish
everyone could feel that feeling and uh
and if you're not feeling that feeling
please feel free don't hesitate reach
out to amodeine this is why we are here
here this is why they are here and I and
I wish you nothing but the best nothing
but health and success God bless you
amazing love you thank you guys so much
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