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March 19, 2017 Amudim Awareness Event Dr. Yaakov Siegel Part 4 of 4
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like we said I'm doing this as ahead
full disclosure there's no compensation
so what I'm about to say is true comes
from the heart nobody put me up to it
I just want to thanks V and I moved in
for the work that they do from I've been
in practice independent practice for
over ten years and there are many
organizations in our community that
address a range of mental health issues
all of them wonderful all them do a good
job it was about a year ago that one of
my clients asked me if I've heard of a
Mouton and I hadn't and she said you
have to work with them because they're
the only organization that really helped
me and I got in touch with them and the
response the work they do is phenomenal
the after getting two notes fee and you
know he said almost everything I have to
say I think he gave my entire speech
today already which is just a testament
to his knowledge and his involvement in
the field and then his caseworkers and
his staff and the more I got to know
them these are people see has assembled
a staff of people who were involved in
helping before they joined I'm with him
every single one of them starting from
when they were teenagers were involved
in helping their friends in a non
professional capacity and then getting
it involved professionally they're
dedicated but to a degree that I have
not seen anywhere else as a matter of
fact I wouldn't I don't know if I would
say this on microphone in Lakewood but
I'm a member of a whatsapp group and
occasionally occasionally people post I
have this relative I have this friend
who's suffering comes from a broken home
is suffering with addiction or another
mental illness does anyone know where I
could turn for help
and all the organizations pop up and
inevitably as somebody who deals with
this daily unfortunately I call them
privately I tell them you have to reach
out Tom mudan because I move doesn't
only give a referral and doesn't only
care they follow through they make sure
the finances are there they make sure
there's follow-up likes we said when the
people come out of the the treatment
they follow up with support and they
really see it through until the job is
done
so I thinks we and I think I moved in
for the work that they do I was asked
not to speak to clinically when when
they asked me to speak they asked me to
send a recording of a presentation I had
given and it was actually at a
professional conference and the whole
thing was statistics and research so
they said keep it not clinical everybody
who's here is here because they want to
help they want to know what's going on
with addiction and what can we do to
help and those are the two questions
that I want to answer briefly and maybe
at the end we'll take questions the why
and what we could do about addiction we
have to understand the psychology and
the mentality of an addict imagine that
we're driving over in the Verrazano
Bridge and there's a man standing on the
edge of the bridge he's teetering on the
edge and somebody calls the authorities
and the police come and the fire
department comes and they call in an
expert the crisis expert comes with a
megaphone and he turns it on and he says
to the man do you know how you're
hurting your family do you know what a
shameful thing you're doing standing on
the bridge do you know you have to stop
this now how could you do this to
everybody that never happens that's not
what they say they come up the bridge
and they say do you know there's a
reason to live do you know that whatever
problem that you have we're going to
help you step down if you're in debt
we'll find funds to cover it if you're
suffering with depression
we'll get you treatment if you're lonely
we're going to include you in the
community we'll bring you into our
houses we'll find you a place where you
belong
we'll get you into treatment the addict
is not so different imagine a child
who's coming into preschool every child
comes in expecting to succeed they
imagine the friends they're gonna make
they imagine the skills they're gonna
learn
they imagine the pat on the back they're
gonna get from their teacher and
unfortunately for too many somewhere
along the way whether it's in preschool
or elementary school or high school or
beyond they've been rejected they've
been told that they're just not good
enough
some have been
treated some have even been abused and
they learned quickly that the
conventional way of getting to their
goals just doesn't work for them and
then somebody introduces a substance
whether it's alcohol or a pill that
actually makes them feel good and nobody
wants nobody sets out to destroy
themselves I've never spoken to an
addict I've been doing this for too long
I ran an addiction center in Florida for
six years 180 beds I've seen thousands
of addicts I've never spoken to an
addict who told me that that drugs don't
kill I've never spoken to an addict who
told me this lifestyle that I live is a
great way of life this is what I wanted
to be when I grow up I wanted to be
using drugs and alcohol it's almost an
inevitably because they've been brought
to believe that there's that what that
the other way of life just won't work
for them or even if it'll work it
doesn't speak to them the way that that
the drugs do it's so hard to study it's
so hard to try to make friends when
you're being bullied and it's so easy to
pop a pill and to feel good and so the
solution is not to take - when addict
comes into the office to explain to him
how terrible addiction is he knows that
already the solution is to tell him how
much hope there is - tell him that life
can be lived you can get what you want
and we're here to help you you're not
you're not in it alone
studies show that with all the prizes
all the reinforcers that you could give
somebody to motivate them to continue a
behavior the number one reinforcer that
works the quickest and that works every
time counter-intuitively is to tell
somebody good job you tell a child or
even an adult you know you did a good
job strong work that motivates them to
come back again more than money more
than prizes all the person needs to hear
is you're doing well and that's why when
you walk into an a a meeting you walk
into a 12-step group
what's the opening hi I'm Yaakov I'm an
and I've been sober for two days and
everybody claps I've met 60 year old men
who suffered their whole life with drugs
and alcohol and their most prized
possession some of them have reached the
heights of achievement in the world for
successful businessmen doctors lawyers
but their most prized possession is
their one-year little chip that they got
from the a a that they were told you
know you did a good job you know you
really made it for a year and that's
really all it takes to pull somebody out
of a life of destruction and set them on
a path of achievement likes we said it's
not only children it's not only
teenagers unfortunately there are people
with families with jobs with all the
trappings of success who drowned their
lives and self-destruct on a daily basis
with substances and it's because
something somewhere they're not feeling
good job it might be that they have to
learn themselves to celebrate their own
accomplishments and that's part of the
work that we do to teach a person how to
pump themselves up how to say to
themselves I did a good job but that's
really what it takes to set them on a
path of success that happens with
therapy individual and group therapy
psychiatry medication or ology there are
answers for every problem the treatments
are there the question is having the
person buy-in that I could really live
life the proper way I just want to say
quickly you know I wasn't I was going to
end it here and leave the rest out
because after I graduated with the
doctorate degree and I did my postdoc
and I did my trainings and did my
supervision I spent I was living in
Brooklyn at the time and I had the
opportunity to spend one day a week on
Fridays driving one of the the head of
the head of the Flatbush best-in one of
the big post-game of Brooklyn
older man who's been around for a while
and who knows a lot and I spent the one
day a week driving him and I used to
discuss cases with him in life with him
he had a lot of insight he told me never
speak Mooser never tell anybody what
they're doing wrong always build people
up it's the only way to get them to
change you know I wasn't planning I have
to tell you this I was in his soul
there's an unplanned story you have to
hear the story I was I was in his Sheol
I was in his soul on Shabbos shuva
that's the Shabbos routine Rosh Hashanah
Yom Kippur the Shabbos of Mooser the
Shabbos when we tell people what they're
doing wrong and he got up to speak and
he spent the entire time telling his
congregation what a great congregation
they are he said how holy everybody is
what a good job they're doing and then
at the end he said him we should do
better and he sat down so I went over to
I said rabbi you you really missed the
boat today he's not it's at today's you
know Shabbos shoo it's time to tell
people with what they did wrong and he
told me no he said moster is telling
people you're good be better
it was so insightful you can't build
from a place of ripping somebody down
the way to build somebody up is you're
good you're doing good
now do better but that being said this
weekend and again I was going to leave
this out but it's very very insightful
this weekend I our community hosted one
of the big masha gave him from a major
yeshiva my CF is a must urge ient this
was a man I've never met anyone like him
a regal man he thought before every word
he said he was so so the self-control he
was so measured so I was in a private
conversation with him and I turned to
the conversation turned to the subject
of addiction and I asked him rabbi to
the musters soir him do the does the
Torah talk about addiction and he
immediately said yes in the ninth Parekh
of Mithila see Sharan which was written
by Rabbi Luz Otto in the 1700s a
Kabbalist he said look over there and
when it talks about the
trade of laziness he says the following
words he says a nanu aldohn bharat smo
the person does not have control over
himself
lassos hepatech he shared said to do the
opposite of what he wants when when when
he decides to he says that's addiction
that when a person it was written in the
1700s when a person becomes accustomed
to a comfortable life and when they find
something in this in this context the
text is talking about a lazy comfortable
life and when you get used to comforts
and you get used to it coming easy and
immediate gratification it becomes
impossible in a no other box mode
becomes impossible for the person to
overcome themselves to do differently
when they want to so I asked him that's
a very dire prognosis so what's a person
supposed to do so he told me that his
rebbe reb um live Ovitz who was the
mascara in the mirror in Poland who died
in 1936 used to say that all it takes to
overcome this is to move from the couch
to the front lines and he explained what
that means is that there are two ways of
looking at the world he said some people
many today's day this is the way it is
some people are looking for a life of
comfort and the way that the rabbi said
it they sit on the couch and some people
understand that the world is a battle
and that there are challenges and that
it's going to be hard and all it takes
to overcome is to move your mindset from
the couch the front lines and this is
really the work that we do in addiction
treatment is you move your mindset from
immediate gratification from the couch
to the front lines that there's a battle
but you could win the battle and then he
told me very telling words he said but
you can't paint it black the world is
not black and he said it's a very
beautiful world and you have to tell
people that the world is rewarding and
that the world is full of light and full
of accomplishment and every time that
you move that you win a battle it's
important to celebrate and say good job
and that gives you the strength to
forward so to shift the mindset to a
world were of accomplishment of a world
of light a world of battle a person
could pull through you know just one
more story a wife once came into my
office and she said I don't know what's
wrong with my husband he's just acting
is something wrong with him mentally we
need a diagnosis I think he might be
schizo friend I got a bipolar he's
acting bizarre and I spoke to her she
was crying and then she walked out and
her husband walked in I spoke to him for
five minutes I said to him you're you're
high you're using pot right
he said yeah so I said what about what
about your wife he said since I started
smoking my shawm bias has only gotten
better so here she is crying over the
destruction that her husband is
destroying their marriage through
marijuana use and he's thinking that
everything got better since I started
using marijuana so sometimes there's a
disconnect sometimes it takes some times
we all see how the person is destroying
everything and they think things are
getting better
so the first step sometimes is pulling
them out of denial but through work and
through pulling them through and showing
them the good job that they're doing and
showing them how life could be full of
light they could pull out of it and they
could live a successful life