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We are here sitting with Aya, an
incredible
Israeli soldier who gave his health and
so much of his life protecting the state
of Israel and who went on to be a
parolympian. What is so amazing about
him is not his athleticism and not the
sacrifices he's made for the state of
Israel but his perspective. The way that
he looks at his own life I think will
transform the way that you look at
yours. So when we come together for
Amuim unite to heal it is stories like
aa that I think inspire us in our own
lives and I'm so grateful to be sitting
in conversation with our friend Akia. It
is such a privilege and pleasure to be
sitting with really a hero, someone
who's incredibly courageous with an
incredible story. But I want to begin
from the middle of your story. Uh
looking at you, clearly you have been
through a lot and you have
experienced a great deal of pain,
suffering, but also some great deal of
courage and bravery. Can we start at the
middle of your story? How did you first
get injured while serving in the IDS?
>> So, first of all, thanks for for having
me. Um, so
back in uh 20 2013, um 71 in October
2013, I served in an elite unit called
the Halom. Uh I was a an officer and a
team leader and I led my team to an
operation to demolish tunnel that was
between Gaza to Israel. Um it was almost
12 years ago. Um and the tunnel was
already crossing to the Israeli side.
The length of the tunnel was about 2
kilometer. Uh and we launch um a special
operation to cross the border, reconnect
to the tunnel with a with a big drill
machine. And we was supposed to to drill
down to the tunnel, put explore it a
little bit to see if there is more
entrance or exit close to the border and
then demolish it as much as we can with
explosive through towards Gaza. And
while walking on the tunnel, I was half
a meter next to the hole uh and it was a
booby trap uh inside the tunnel as that
was exploded. and I I was the first one
uh in the line and I get I get most of
the explosive in in my face and in the
upper body.
>> But when you suffer a tragedy like that
and you're injured on duty, you know,
what happens afterwards in terms of your
relationship to serving in the army?
Were you resentful? Were you angry? Were
you frustrated?
What is the feeling? You're in an elite
unit. You're an elite soldier and now
you've been injured in a way that is
going to make it more difficult not just
to serve obviously but for the duration
of your life. What were the emotions you
were contending with after realizing the
extent of your injury?
>> I can tell that the first two questions
that I have after I I woke up in the
hospital after I I was out of conscious
for a few days. Um the first two
question was what what happened with the
mission uh and what happened to the rest
of the team. Um and for years I'm I'm
thinking about it and I I'm trying to
understand with myself what what's what
led a person to ask this specific
question after something so big happened
to you.
>> You woke up in the hospital and the
first two things you want to know is
what happened to the mission and what
happened to the rest of your team.
>> Correct.
So what happened to the mission is very
is part of the IDF value that you going
to a mission like like it's you need to
make it happen like you need to
accomplish the mission that's that's the
thing that you learn since the since day
like you know the the first day in the
army and the second one is more related
to to the feeling that I than I had
because do you know in Hebrew there is a
very strong word called aar and is also
So in the IDF mean follow me. But it's
also the letter of
>> responsibility.
>> Responsibility. Exactly. And when I led
a h my team for a mission,
your your soldier following you not
because you you're their commander and
because like it's you cannot force
someone to lead you espec especially
when you need people to step in to a
cher tunnel because that's that's a
little bit it's a different story but
I'm strongly believe that people will
follow you and it's it's it's it's true
for the IDF but it's also true for
leaders. leadership uh it can meet you
in every stage in your life because
people following you because they
believe in you. They know that they they
trust you also because they know they
you will you know take care of them. So
that was that was my first two two
question and feelings that I have after
I woke up from uh my injury.
Once it became clear to you that you
would suffer permanent injury to your to
your sight and just your your physical
strength is going to be diminish or
change for the entirety of your life. I
could imagine that somebody would want
to like retreat from anything having to
do with athleticism or physical activity
you that got taken away from you. But
you didn't do that. And in fact
afterwards you were in the par Olympics.
I'm curious why did you decide to be a
part of the parolympic team? Why not say
look I did my service. I'm now I I'm not
the the the warrior. I'm not as strong
as I once was. I don't have the same
capacity. So I'll find a different area.
Why continue in the world of of physical
strength and feats even after suffering
injury? what drew you to join the
Israeli parolympic team? So um actually
your question leading me to uh the first
first few weeks after my my that I was
already on the hospital and I was
already out of like a life uh risk uh
and um it was the first oper like
surgery that the doctor did to to my
eyes and after the surgery I was you
know was I was born optimistic until
today I'm very optimistic but they told
me like you need to come back on few
today and we will check what happened to
your eyes. Uh because they didn't know
exactly what's the what's the condition,
what's the situation there. And I came
back after a few days and they start
asking me so many questions and I didn't
understand what they asked because in my
head I was like before you ask me if I
see something see light fingers colors
like take off the bandages. And when I
understood they already took the
bandages, I understood that's it's not
going to be like the other time that I
was injured and was able to go back to
service. So I understood that this time
is different. And somehow
that's feeling um that that I have after
I understand that was very very heavy.
And I I understood like knowing myself I
I knew that in order to overcome
challenge in my life, in order to to
live fulfilling life, I need to to make
a decision to to to
be to look to to to be more focusing on
the future. Because if I will be
focusing on the past, what happened to
me? You know, all this like a what if
question, what if I was clo I was a
little bit far, what if someone else was
there? Uh if I will in order to to
overcome challenge, I need to focus on
the future. Uh and in the minute I I
realized that I realized that uh
everything became much more easier. So
for me to choose sports as a recovery
and going to the parolympics was about
to achieve another goal. As a kid I grew
up in a kibbutz. I didn't do much
sports. The only sports that I knew
maybe is a is a basketball
uh uh and maybe running in the field but
after my injury I was I was you know
introduced to a different opportunity to
do
much bigger things. And I think that's
that's what drove me today al like in my
life you know when I realized that life
brings you so many opportunity and you
need to be focused on on the positivity
what can you achieve after so I think
what drove me was to to see how can I
achieve it how can I challenge myself
and I always tell my friends and I have
a very
strange habit to put myself in an
uncomfortable situation but uh but
that's that's a drive than I have um and
what drove me to to uh to get married to
to to have a family kids uh to go to the
parolympics as a part of the rowing team
and finish sixth place in the world.
That's the whole you know overcome
challenge mentality that I'm looking to
you know to have to myself. What's so
remarkable and what I find so moving
about you and your story is that so many
people when they face impediments and
challenges and they get knocked down. So
even if they get up but they get up and
they don't try again with the same
intensity they they lower the bar and
you when you got knocked down you you
raise the bar and you remain so positive
and optimistic. My question is where do
you think your resilience your ability
to constantly reinvent take on new
challenges even after confronting
tremendous suffering?
Where do you think this your capacity
for resilience derives from?
>> I think it's it's obviously related to
to to my roots. Uh I grew up in in
Kibbut Farion in a Judea mountain and
you know from young age I grew up on the
story of course my grandpa parents was a
holocaust survivor and I grew up in the
place that was uh in the war of
independences was the Jordanian uh
conquerored and and and and then the
whole history how we came back and and
build it again from zero. I think that
was a story that you know about the the
the warrior of of Guushetion and how
they they didn't like they fought until
until the end. And I think that's kind
of story that I heard all over my life
again and again and again kind of you
know build me the strength or the
resiliency that's like push me push me
forward or help me to push forward all
over my life. So for example, my
childhood was mostly during the second
inif
I used to go to school with uh
bulletproof buses. So you know for if
I'm telling it today or if I'm even
thinking that my kids will need to go
I'm like oh no no that's not a safe
place to my kids. But for me that was
the kind of environment that I grew up.
So that was also you know it's like
every every story or every stage in our
life it's like a small piece of puzzle
that's in the end of the day it's like
who we are. So that's I think that the
stuff that you know when I put
everything together that's the small
things that you know leading my like or
creating my my path
>> for people who are listening to you now
who are struggling in different ways in
their own lives.
What do you hope the message is from
someone who listens to you and hears
your story? What do you want them to
walk away with?
>> I heard um a very strong sentence that
was was was resonate with me. It's like
a is a very famous one but is um life
begin at the end of your comfort zone.
>> Life begins at the end of your comfort
zone. Beautiful. And I believe that this
sentence it's just not it's not like a
one one time experience. It's a way of
life because when you step out of your
comfort zone like you basically expand
the bubble so you create another one. So
it's what I believe it's it's it's um
it's something that you need to live
through every day. So after one, two,
three times that you actually able to
push yourself beyond your limits or be
beyond you know beyond something that
you you you think that you are not able
not capable once you you learn how to do
it and how to to live like that help you
to live completely different life. So
that's what I'm really trying to to
teach people or that that's the the
message that I'm trying to you know to
tell people like you need to sometimes
start with the small things with the
little things that like help you to to
be a little bit of to live in the
unknown situation but when you
accomplish that like you will be so much
confidence so much able to do stuff
that's what I'm trying to to to tell
people
>> you have an incredible uh spirit and
perspective. I'm curious when you look
at the current situation in Israel and
you see the rise of anti-semitism, you
see what happened on October 7th and how
really the entire world, it seems, in
many ways, has turned against Israel and
the Jewish people.
Are you worried in this moment? How do
you process the moment that we are in
given the experiences that you've had?
So for the first time in my life because
today I'm living in Toronto I I was able
to to be exposed to anti-semitism
because what when you live in Israel you
don't really understand that because you
really understand anti-semitism what
they meet you in every day or the worst
when it can potenti potential that can
meet your kids that's where you start
you start to be worried about it but a
short example from today there is a very
uh famous uh I'm I'm we we said that I'm
I'm an athlete. So I'm very I I I I very
involved in the in the cycling world and
there is a one team is called Israeli
Israel Premier Techch. uh Steven Adams,
a Canadian jersey owned the team and
this uh in the last few weeks they're
they're racing in a in a world tour
called Vua Despia and during this race
there is so many uh propolinian protest
stopping the race for so many time but
today maybe I think it's the maybe the
one of the last stages in in the tour um
one of the rider
It was a lot of protest today, but he
managed to get fifths today. And but he
also managed to be on the podium today
because he's the young rider. And when I
when I know that this rider is American,
he's not Israeli or Jews. But he is
standing there with a Israeli premerc.
understood that, you know,
they can try as much as they can to to
to put us down, to kick us from the
world, you know, stage in sports, in
politic, in trade, in business, in
everything. But but because
I see it, you know, between right and
wrong and and I understand that as as
long as we keep doing what we're doing,
we just will be there and we will show
everyone that we are here to stay. That
is absolutely beautiful. In terms of of
Judaism, Yiddishkite, I'm curious if
there's a specific place that you look
to within Jewish life or Jewish text
that gives you strength and hope.
>> For me, um I I I grew up in a religious
family. Uh and I think that until today,
the things that stay with me the most is
all the the nigunim. It's it's it's a
Jewish music. The things that like once
you you going to the shul and you hear
the Shabbat songs or just you hear like
you today we're in in the
um before Yum Kipur and Oshashana like
the the songs that really touch your
soul. That's that's what's keep me, you
know,
bring me back to to my roots and
everything and and and help me, you
know, something that really touch inside
like touching your soul and that's what
I really love about Judaism.
>> Aia, you your life and your story are
such an inspiration. I am so privileged
to share and be in conversation with you
today. Thank you so much for sharing
your story with Ammudim night to heal.
What you represent and your story and
your perspective is something that I
think everyone can gain and be uplifted
from and I am so privileged to be
sitting here with you today. Thank you
so very much.
>> Thank you.
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