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Okay, boys. Welcome back to our next
Daru class. [music] So excited to be
able to share this topic with you. Last
week, we began a few weeks ago, we began
talking about the topic of
communication, [music]
how important communication skills are,
thinking about different [music] forms
of communication in our lives. Can
anybody think and remember what was the
idea that we brought out as far as
[music] communication is concerned last
time we met? Yeah. describing something.
>> So sometimes you can use words [music]
to describe something. There was a
certain activity that we used to try to
bring out the idea. Yeah.
>> You only try to use one type of
communication that's harder.
>> So only one type of communication like
just speaking and not [music] using
something else sometimes can be harder
to convey that message to communicate.
Anybody remember something else that we
did?
>> Hand motions, language.
>> Hand [music] motions and language. What
else?
>> Uh drawing. drawing because what was the
exercise that we did?
>> Um like draw a square.
>> So there were [music] there were
pictures and you had to try to just with
your speech describe what shape and
pattern are you seeing on the screen and
everyone had [music] to try to draw it
for themselves to be able to say like oh
and then you hold it up and we compare
did you get it right? who beca who
[music] came the closest. But how
difficult it was when you were only
using one form of communication, speech.
Whereas if you could draw, if you could
write, if you could use hand [music]
motions, which you weren't allowed to
do, you had to keep your hands behind
your back when you were describing it
last week. If you could do all these
other forms of communication, you have a
lot more success in [music] conveying
your message. And remember, we ended off
with the lesson that we have to keep in
mind we can use [music] different forms
of communication to make our points more
clearly, but we also have to keep in
mind what communication [music] are we
communicating
whether we realize it or not by those
other forms [music] of communication. So
leaning way back in your seat or putting
your head like you [music] know these
are actually communicating messages to a
rebby to a teacher to a parent. [music]
We have to become self-aware which was
the first unit we did all about
self-awareness. What messages are we
conveying? Are we communicating to the
people in [music] our lives? I want to
move on now this week to the next unit,
the next session [music] in
communication. And that is using
communication for a very important
purpose. And the topic we're going to be
talking about today is [music] bullying.
Who can define bullying for me? Yeah.
>> A person making. [music]
So, one example would be someone making
fun of someone else. Yeah.
>> Putting someone down to bring yourself
up.
>> Putting someone down to [music] bring
yourself up. That's very well said.
We're going to get soon. We're going to
elaborate a little bit on what that
means. Where is the bully? Why is the
bully usually bullying? Yeah.
>> Yeah. I'm a physically hurting person.
>> Potentially physically hurting. Yeah.
>> Picking on someone.
>> Picking on someone is a way to say it.
>> Embarrassing. [music]
>> Embarrassing someone.
>> Um, saying words like you're no good.
>> Okay. So again, putting the person down
with words,
>> um, threatening them because you really
think that he's inspiring on you.
>> Threats can be a part of it.
>> Sometimes if [music] you're the one
that's doing it, make sure you pay
attention to this class. Yes.
>> Like taking someone's stuff.
>> Okay. So, uh, affecting other people's
stuff, their belongings, taking [music]
it. Okay. So, those are all good
examples of bullying. The basic idea is
that you're harming another person and
often times it's being done [music]
repetitively over and over and over
again. I have a question for you boys.
How many people here by a raise of hands
have witnessed
have observed bullying.
Pretty much every single [music] person
raising their hand. Now that doesn't
mean that there's a lot of bullying
going on around you. could be one person
bullying one other person who's the
victim, but you all have observed it.
The reason I asked that question is not
to try to see how much bullying is going
on, but actually because if [music]
you've all observed it, then you all
potentially could be part of this
solution. And that's the first point I
want to make. What do you boys think is
by far the most effective, successful
anti-bullying tactic? The best strategy
to stop bullying in its tracks to
eliminate bullying. What is the best way
to make sure that bullying does not
happen? Yeah.
Everyone together. What were you going
to say?
>> Um you you ask him to stop then.
>> So now you're talking about from the
victim's perspective. What should you
do? Like asking him to stop and stuff.
And we're going to get into that.
>> You could say that you're going to the
principal.
>> You could say you're going to you're
going to have to tell an adult.
Absolutely. Like the principal. Yes.
We're gonna get to all those ideas, but
let's focus more on what he was saying.
Yeah.
>> Stand up to him.
>> Stand up to him. Again, as the victim,
[music] we're gonna focus on all of
those. That's important. Yeah.
>> Ah, okay. Add the crowd. Or the word we
want to focus on here is
bystander.
This is a word that we use when it comes
to bullying that is absolutely critical.
Yes, there will be sometimes
unfortunately bullying in [music] every
single school
to work with schools across the country
and even outside the country. Every
school will have incidents
and in every incident there's going to
be the victim.
That's the person who's being bullied
and there's going to be the bystander.
That's the person who sees the bullying.
[music] He's not the bully. He's not the
person being bullied, the victim, but he
is observing it. He sees it. He hears
it. And the bystander,
especially if it's a group of people,
have the greatest kak, the greatest
strength to influence the environment of
the class. What's another place maybe in
kish in Torah that we find that people
are influenced by their [music]
environment by what people around them
stand for or don't stand for? Can anyone
think of an example in Kish and Gumar?
Yeah.
Okay. What do we find by kayel? That the
men maybe influenced each other and a
large group started [music] to get
involved. Thousands of people. But what
group do we see didn't get involved by
Katego?
Do you know
the Levim? So they stuck together as a
group. I'm sure some Levim got from
others to not join. What's another
[music] group that didn't get involved
in the Aigel?
Yeah, the women gave each other to not
get involved. [music] Amazing idea. Once
again, you see the positive influence
but also potentially the negative
influence of those who were serving you.
Any other ideas? Any other examples?
Yes.
[music]
>> Dawson and aim. Okay. Good example. Yes.
Influencing people potentially [music]
by Korak and other places. Yeah.
Corbin Pesak. He said it's just a very
large gathering of people being mazic
each other to [music] do the mitzvah,
right?
taking.
>> Okay. There's a lot of people who are
bystanders, but we want to talk about
[music] how it could influence the
group. Yeah.
>> By shimshin that what?
>> And what?
So that was a moment of influence.
Shimshan knocking it down, killing all
those enemies was a moment of influence
for Claw Israel [music] of his maybe.
Yes. But we want to talk about more in a
group form. Yeah.
Just receiving the Torah. Matan Torah
was a tremendous thing. All the people
came together. They were matire [music]
themselves. They stood as a group.
The group has tremendous
to influence for the good. and Kasam are
the opposite too and we have to be aware
of that [music] which means the greatest
single most impactful effective
anti-bullying campaign strategy is that
the class doesn't stand for bullying and
makes it known that the grade or the
school doesn't stand for bullying
[music] and makes it known meaning the
boys the students
yeah the principal could say things it
helps the mashki the counselor could say
things. It helps. The rebay and teachers
can say things. The parents can get
involved. It all helps. It's all great.
But the most powerful is if the students
themselves say no. What does that mean?
It means if you're a bystander and you
hear or see one person bullying another
person, calling them a really nasty name
or even getting physical with them, you
walk up to that bully, [music] even just
by yourself if you're brave enough. If
not, get a little group together.
>> [music]
>> two, three boys is enough to be
powerful. If maybe there's a group
that's doing the bullying, maybe get a
little bit of a larger group together,
hopefully the vast majority of the class
will be able [music] to get together on
this for the good and say, "Hey, stop.
What you're doing is not cool. Stop.
We We don't like it as a class. Stop."
And you make [music] the bully feel
silly in what he's doing. It's highly
intimidating to the bully and [music]
helps him stop the behavior because he
says, "Okay, this is not certainly not
making me more popular
and I'm not comfortable doing this."
Now, [music] it's an environment that
doesn't tolerate bullying amongst the
students themselves, the boys
themselves. That [music] has the
greatest impact. So, keep that in mind
as we discuss bystander. I want to
introduce
an abbreviation [music]
as a way to think about four ideas.
There's more, but four ideas that we can
keep in mind as a bystander [music]
again by ourselves or even especially as
a group. What can we do to help stop
bullying [music] around us? Because
again, that's our greatest co- as a
class.
The acronym
is called stack. S T [music] A C. Here's
what it stands for. S stands for steal
the show. That means you see someone
starting starting to call some names
against another person. Starting to say
some mean things to another [music]
person. Steal the show means you jump in
and say, "Did you guys understand the
toastless Rebby was explaining just
before?" Or maybe if it's a different
guy, [clears throat] it might make more
sense to say, "Did you guys see the
field goal last night?"
Whatever the content is doesn't matter
so much. It's that you're stealing the
show. You're changing the topic.
By doing that, [music] you interrupt the
bullying, which is a great service to
the person being bullied. That's one
idea. Steal the show. T. Turn it over.
That means give it over to an adult.
Now, this is important. Do [music] you
think
every single time somebody annoys or
bothers another person, no matter how
light or heavy it is, you should always
make sure to tell an adult every [music]
single time.
What do you say?
Yeah.
Yes, you should always tell an adult.
>> No. Why not?
All right. So, let's give an example to
make it more clear.
>> Somebody comes over to you. You [music]
go to someone and say, "Can I borrow
your pet?" And he says,
"No, I'm not in the mood of lending it.
It's very not nice." Do you tell an
adult?
Yeah. No. What do you say? Why?
So the need we all agree
>> right and sometimes it could be a little
wrong but the point is we all agree
there's a certain lightness of just an
annoyance that we don't need to tell now
can you always tell your parents about
anything that happens in your day? Not
only can you in fact let me just digress
for a second. When you go home today and
your mother or father, [music] hopefully
they haven't given up yet by the time
that you're now in middle school, and
they ask you, "How was your day in
school, try really hard, practice this
in the car pool on the way home in your
head?" Not to say, "Fine." And then the
next question is, "What did you do
today?" What did you learn? I don't
know.
Nothing. [music]
I don't remember. Try instead to think
of one or two things. You could remember
this daru class. This is one thing you
could remember for the conversation
[music] today. And if your parents did
give up and they're not asking you, what
did you do today? Great. Go over to them
and say, "Mom, I'd like to tell you what
I did in school today. We had a denu
class. I was about this. We learned
[music] this in sheer. We had an
interesting thing in math class."
Prepare two or three things. Here's what
we did at recess. Your mom might say,
"Wait, do you have a fever? What's going
on over here?" all of a sudden you're
telling me about your day and you'll
say, "Well, I want to try to
communicate, right? We're in
communication right now. Communicate a
little bit more." So, as a side [music]
point, it's good to always try to make
sure to communicate with your parents
when they want to hear about how was
your day. You could always tell your
parents anything you [music] want and
you should. No restrictions on that.
Anything that bothered you, of course,
you should tell your parents. [music]
But the point is, do you need to run to
a principal? Do you need to run to a
rebby if someone annoyed you a little
bit? So the answer to that is not
exactly [music] black and white. Here's
what I mean.
There are two categories where turn it
over must apply.
Okay? You can apply it in other cases,
but it must apply. One, it's something
significantly [music]
significant and physical. So there's
something you're being hurt physically
pinned down, [music] pushed, punched,
kicked, all these things. You got to
tell someone that is not okay. That is a
major boundary [music] crossing. You got
to tell someone right away. That's one
case. Another [music] case would be an
extremely nasty comment. Really making
fun of you, calling you a terrible name,
saying inappropriate stuff, all that
stuff, you got to give it over to
someone. You got to tell an adult.
Rebby, [music] principal, mashia,
counselor, parents.
But if it's something very light, maybe
the boy walks by your knapsack that's on
the floor and he just kind of brushes it
with his foot clearly purposely.
Maybe he co he says calls you like a a
little play on your last name a little
bit and it doesn't really bother you so
much but it's a little annoying and you
ask him to stop. So maybe wait to see if
he stops. You don't necessarily have to
tell an adult. But there's another
category where you do have to turn it
over. Even if it's [music] light, if it
happens again and again and again and
you try to ask him to stop and again and
again and it's relentless, then even
light things can start to hurt a lot.
It's actually [music] true. If you like
punch someone in their arm lightly, but
you keep [music] doing it a long time,
it starts to actually potentially make a
black and blue mark even because it's
relentless. Same thing with words. Even
if [music] the words are relatively
light, if it's consistent and repetitive
and it's for a long time, a number of
days in a row, and it's not stopping,
you got to tell someone cuz that could
really hurt a person. just like one time
if it's something strong and physical or
particularly nasty verbally. Okay, so
that's turn it over. You have a
question?
>> Um but also if you say like go out
sports or the principal every [music]
single time there's a little thing then
um they're not going to let you come
back.
>> Okay. Sometimes if you overload the
principle and you're coming to them
every day, they feel like, "Okay, one
second. We need to create some amount of
resilience, some amount of separation
and time. How often?" Again, if it's big
things and it's happening every day for
some reason, you got to go. But
hopefully those things are going to be
taken care of right away with the
parents involved and everyone involved.
Yeah, good point. Okay. Yeah. Last
question for now.
>> Sometimes sometimes the stop even when
the parents
>> Yes. Yes, we're going to talk about
that. Excellent question. Sometimes
these things are not enough. We're going
to get there. But to finish off what a
bystander [music] can do, what's S?
>> Steal the show.
>> Steal the show. What's T?
>> Turn it over.
>> Turn it over. [music] A is accompany
others. Accompany others [music] is a
accompany others means that you want to
make sure to provide company [music] to
the victim. What's the feeling that a
victim of bullying generally [music]
feels right when he's being bullied and
right after he gets being bullied? What
feeling is the victim usually feeling?
Yeah.
>> No one cares about me. I'm all
>> You might feel some rage and anger, but
also I'm what?
awkward and like a nobody
alone. I'm all alone.
No one's there for me. So, what [music]
could you do as a bystander? You can go
up to that victim and say after it's
like, let's say it just finished and
[music] now you noticed it. You go up to
him and you say, "Hey, don't listen to
him. He's being silly. Don't [music]
listen to him. What he's saying does not
make sense at all. And by the way, at
recess today, we're putting a game
together. Come join us. I'm having some
guys over to study and do. Come over.
Invite including him. That is directly
helping the feeling that he's [music]
feeling of alone, of loneliness.
Accompany others. Be there for the
victim. And lastly, so what's S?
>> Steal the show.
>> Steal [music] the show.
>> Turn it over.
>> Turn it over. accomp
>> accompany others. And lastly, coaching
compassion. That means we want to be
able to tell the bully, "Hey, stop."
That's what we really began with.
Especially if you could do [music] it in
group form. Bring a whole group
together. Approach the bully. Tell the
bully in group form, "Hey, what you're
doing is not cool. It's not okay. We
don't like it. It it's it's destroying
our class. Stop."
and [music] you walk away. You're
coaching compassion. Bully, you got to
have some compassion. You got to stop
with this mean behavior. Coaching
compassion. One last time.
>> Steal the show.
>> Turn over. Accompany others. [music]
>> Coaching compassion.
>> Coaching compassion. That's right. So,
we want to remember these four [music]
tactics as a bystander. There are more
things that you can do as well. And now
we're going to also talk about what to
[music] do if you're the victim of
bullying. Before we get there, you had a
question.
>> Yeah.
>> Um, [music] but also the person could
like
say something, but you might not want to
say anything cuz like he could be going
through something.
>> Like let's say you know the fact is that
the bully's going through [music]
something. That would be an excellent
thing to say. You have to be careful
with lashar. You don't want to start
revealing secrets that [music] you might
know. But to say in general, I think
he's just dealing with difficult stuff
right [music] now. Don't pay attention
to what he's saying. He's just having a
hard time right now. I think, you know,
he's like, well, what exactly? Like, I
don't know. Just I think [music] he's
just having a hard time. Absolutely.
That's a great piece of information to
share if it's true. Right. In that case,
that would be great. [music] Absolutely.
When you when you coach compassion and
you go to the bully as a group or even
as an individual to say, "Stop. [music]
It's not cool." It doesn't have to be
with a meanness, just a firmness and a
confidence. You got to stop what it
could be very nice. Hey, you [music] got
to stop what you're saying. It's so not
nice to him. I'm not sure you realize,
but you're being [music] really mean to
him. It's hurting him. You got to stop.
And if if [clears throat] his response
is, "Oh, okay. Thank you. Beautiful."
But if his response is, "I know. Oh,
yeah. It's hurting him." You know, "Oh,
great. Here I go." Well, then you got to
get a little bit more firm. [music]
Maybe bring in a few more people to the
group. Make sense? Yeah.
>> Um I think maybe
>> ah I'm so happy you brought that up cuz
we're going to talk about this in the
victim. We'll talk about it now as far
as the victim and the bystander. Should
you use K?
He's saying let's add a K. Now it's
spelled correctly as stack and we
[music] it it stands for karate. Now,
first of all, if you know anything about
karate, karate is all about defensive
posturing and not offensive, which means
you're not doing any attacking unless
you're attacked. So, I'm not sure karate
maybe there's a different letter for a
different form of fighting or whatever,
but but not not karate. Um, but but
let's just address the idea. So, let's
get rid of that. Let's just address the
idea of should you get physical with
him? The answer is no. We'll elaborate
on that a little bit when we get to the
victim. Should the victim get physical
or not? But the answer is [music]
generally no, but we'll get to that
soon. Yeah.
>> Um, but if you're coaching compassion,
sometimes
you might get back.
>> Yes, there is a risk. That's excellent
that you brought that up. As a
bystander, why would a bystander not
want to get involved? Because one
second, Barak Hashem, I'm not getting
bullied. I feel bad for him that he is,
but I'm not. I don't want to get
involved. If I get involved, he start
bullying me. So, first of all, if you're
in a group, that should be less of a
concern because if 12 people out of 20
in the class go up to this person and
say, "Stop." Much less of a concern.
Second of all, even if you're by
yourself, you're right. [music] There's
a risk. And we wouldn't blame someone
for not getting involved. But if you
have the [music] courage to say
something, you'll have hopefully the
environment others who will [music] be
the bystander for you if necessary.
Right? That's why we're talking about
creating this environment in the
classroom and [music] in the grade of
not tolerating bullying. Does that make
sense? That's a great point. Yeah.
>> Sometimes it happens in private and
there no bystanders and this wouldn't
apply. [music] The victim can
potentially tell other people, hey,
could you look out for this? Could you
help me out? But yeah, we have to
[music] deal with each situation in and
of itself. In many many cases, there's
going to be some bystanders. Not every
case. It's true. We have We're going to
talk in a minute about what should the
[music] victim of bullying do to help
himself. That's going to be the next
part of the class. Yeah.
>> If someone's like bullying you on your
way home from school and no one sees and
he's doing it physically, shouldn't you
like defend yourself?
>> Yes. We're going to get to that. That's
all within the victim side of things.
Okay. So, this we just wanted to talk
about if you're the bystander. Now,
let's transition over a lot of your
questions on what if you're the victim.
Maybe there are no bystanders. Maybe
there are bystanders, but they're not
coming to help. So, the bullying has
happened and you're the victim of it.
What can you do to help yourself? So,
two options that I want to share with
you today. Number one,
think to yourself, does this person
who's bullying [music] me seem like a
person I may be able to talk to to ask
him to stop? If the answer is definitely
not, which sometimes happens, then we'll
have to move on to option two that I'm
going to give you in a minute. But if
the answer is yes, I think I might be
able to tell him to stop. I think it
might work, then here's what you want to
do. You want to tell him to stop, but we
want to start with a concept called an I
statement. An I statement
means
that you focus on your feelings, not his
actions. Let me give you an example. I
walk up to the bully and I say,
"You are being so mean by calling me
that name. You've now invited a fight."
No, I'm not. You deserve it. It's not so
mean.
as opposed to
it's hurting my feelings deeply when you
call me that name. Stop. Or if you don't
want to [music] make yourself so
vulnerable and so emotional, you could
just simply say, I really don't like it
when you call me that name. Please stop
now. Firm, short, focusing on I don't
like it. I don't like it. What's he
going to say? That's not true. You do
like it. There's nothing to argue about
if you focus on his [music] actions.
What you're doing, you're a Russia.
You're not supposed to do you're don't
you real. He can just start arguing. No,
it's because of this. You're wrong. I am
allowed. But if you just say, I don't
like what you're doing. You want to add
in it's really bothering me or not. I
don't like what you're doing. I need you
to stop now, please. That's one second.
I'll take questions in a minute. That's
the statement, the I statement. And then
there are two conditions to make this
[music] work. One, you want to be
in private. I'll explain what that means
in [music] a minute. And there's a
second condition of walk away.
Okay. So, those are the [music] two
things. Let's talk about that. In
private doesn't mean you have to be in a
private room when you say this to the
bully. It means you want to be out of
earshot.
You don't want the bully to have an
audience. Because if you walk up to that
bully and he has two or three of his
close friends around him and you say,
"Hey bully, I don't like what you're
doing. Please stop now." When you call
me that name, I don't like it. Stop.
When you kick my knapsack, I don't like
it. Stop. Please. Now. Clear, short,
to the point. If he has two or three
friends around him, he's going to feel
like I got to put on a show. I got to
save face, we call it. I got to save my
reputation. So, he's going to want to
say to the victim, "Oh, yeah." And then
like call you the name right there and
then the two friends laugh.
You know, sometimes when somebody makes
a joke in a class, the whole class
laughs and like the kid feels really
good. But sometimes, imagine if I was
the kid and imagine in the middle of
class, I like raise my hand and I say
something funny, right? Like, "Oh yeah,
well that's not true because of this and
this." And instead of everyone laughing,
which makes me feel good, the whole
class is just like
totally awkward silence. The person
feels really silly with what he did. He
probably won't do it again.
So, the point is, if the bully feels
like he's going to get a [music] laugh
from an audience, a reaction, you're
probably going to lose in trying to get
him to stop by telling him to stop. What
you want to do is when you're 10 ft away
from other people on one side of the
room from the other side of the room,
that's when you quietly walk up to him.
I really don't like [music] it when you
call me that name. When you do that
thing, please stop now. I don't like it.
And then the second condition, so
[music] there's no audience. Second
condition, walk away. Don't do this. Hey
bully, I really don't like when you call
me that name. Please stop now.
What's your response?
How would you like to reply?
This is not a discussion. This is not a
debate. I don't like it. I need you to
stop. I really don't like what you're
doing when you call me that name. Please
stop now.
Walk away. Walk away. [music] He might
scream after you. Yeah, but you just
shrug your shoulders and walk away.
Okay, so that's the first technique. If
you think you can speak to him, go ahead
and try it. If it works, great. If
[music] it doesn't work, we'll move on
to option two, which is going to be a
whole different approach than speaking
to him. It's going to be how do you
react when you
are being bullied? What's your reaction
going to be? And that's going to have a
[music] specific idea to it. But before
we move on to that, yeah,
>> could also like have confidence in
somebody and like and like be nice to
him because when they're nice sometimes
they end up like make stop.
>> Interesting. [music]
Sometimes just being a little extra nice
to the bully makes him feel like a
little more silly that he's being so
mean [music] to you.
>> Like say to him, "Okay, I don't like
when you call me those stuff, but if it
[music] makes you feel better, then go
ahead and do it."
>> Okay, that's going to get into the
reaction. What kind of reaction should
you have? [music] And it's very much
along the lines of what you're saying.
That's excellent.
[music]
>> Yeah. Yeah. So then speaking didn't work
and we have to move on to the next idea.
Right. This is option number one. This
is option number two. If you think
option number one's not going to work,
move straight on to option number two.
If you think it might work, try it. If
it works, great. If not, move on to
option two. Let's talk about option two
for a second. Quick quick question.
Yeah.
>> I said
I like it.
>> Yeah. He could even he could bully you
more with the speaking. You're
absolutely right. He could say, "Guys,
come over here." You know what he just
said? He said, "I should stop." Haha.
>> Yep. And in those cases, we're going
[music] to explore option two. But of
course, if nothing's working at some
point, no matter what level of severity
it is, like we said before, [music]
especially if it's repeating, and if
it's severe right away, you got to do
turn it [music] over. Give it to the
adult, right? One more review.
>> Spotlight.
>> Steal the show. Steal the spotlight.
Yeah.
>> Turn it over.
>> Accompany others.
>> Compassion.
>> Compassion. Coaching. Coaching.
compassion. Good. Okay. So, one second.
Let's just get through this and then
I'll take your question. What should
your Now, we're up to the point of we
tried all that, it's not working. What
should your reaction be when the bully
bullies you? This is really important.
The way to answer that question is what
is
what is the reason many bullies bully?
Why are they bullying? We kind of
touched on this at the very beginning
[music] of the class in the back. Yeah.
to get attention.
>> Um like he's like he's facing [music]
something like
>> something difficult.
>> Yeah. And he's like
>> Yeah.
>> He doesn't like you.
>> He just doesn't like the person. Sure.
>> Cuz what?
>> To get more popular to get attention.
Yeah.
>> He feels that thing about himself all
the way in the back. Yeah.
Maybe something's happening at home
that's making him feel bad.
>> Ah, a good visual for that is he's
feeling down and out about himself for
some reason. So, in order to shove you
down and step on top of you, he raises
himself up. But what a cruel, vicious,
terrible way to make himself feel better
about himself. But we have to understand
that's [music] where it's coming from.
It's coming from him wanting to make
himself feel better about [music]
himself because there's something that
he doesn't feel so good about inside of
himself, which ultimately means he's
trying to grab power for himself. He
wants to feel more powerful and get a
reaction out of you.
This is something that has been written
about. This is an incredible idea to
[music] think about when you're dealing
with a bully.
If he's trying to get power, it means he
can cause you to react. That means he
says something to you, a mean comment,
and you crumble on the floor and cry.
Haha, look how powerful I am. Or you run
away, tell on him, and he gets in
trouble. Look how powerful I am. I was
able to cause you to get so upset. You
went and told on me. Even though it's a
negative consequence to him, even that
makes him feel power.
So, we have to think to ourselves, how
do we deflate [music]
that power? How do we make it that that
power just doesn't feel like [music]
he's getting that power anymore? What
tactic can we take?
>> Ignoring is the right is a good idea,
but let's define [music] two different
types of ignoring. One type of ignoring
is he calls me [music] a name and I go
like this. Do you guys hear anyone
talking to me right now? I don't hear
anyone. Is there someone even over
there? Like silent treatment.
That is a reaction even though you're
not saying anything to him. But that's a
clear reaction of I'm very bothered by
what you're doing. Look at what you're
right. The right type of ignoring the
word I like to use is more more called
indifference. I'm indifferent. I don't
care.
I don't care what you say. It makes no
difference to me. Indifference. Then he
[music] feels like, "Oh my gosh, I'm not
getting a reaction from the victim."
That is something that's powerful in
terms [music] of taking away his feeling
of power. So what would that look like?
He calls me a name and I just kind of
shrug my shoulders. Okay, whatever you
say. And walk away. Like who cares?
[snorts]
Let me give you a muscle. Just put your
hands down. We'll get to questions in a
minute. Let me give you a muscle,
a visual to help you with this because
sometimes it's really going to hurt. How
do you [music] pretend like it's not
bothering you? So, sometimes
I want you all to close close your eyes
for a second and imagine the face of a
baby. Close your eyes. It could be a
younger brother or sister. It could be a
niece or nephew. It can be a baby that
you saw on the outside of a diaper box.
It doesn't matter. You can make up the
baby face, but like a little
six-month-old baby's head. Okay, [music]
picture that head in your mind. Okay,
open your eyes. Now, imagine there's a
person bullying I'm not going to say you
cuz there's a person bullying someone.
What I would tell [music] that person
is, oh, he's bullying you. Say it's a
middle schooler bullying another middle
schooler. Imagine that baby head being
swapped out on top of the shoulders of
the middle school boy's body. And now
it's a middle school boy's body with a
baby's head on top. Pretty weird visual.
Why would I tell you to imagine that?
Because think about the following case.
I go to my friend's house and he's like,
"You got to see my baby. You got to come
see the baby. It's so cute. Come see the
baby.
I say fine. I come and I take a look at
the baby and it's very cute baby.
So I look at the [music] baby and the
baby looks up at me. It's like one years
old, not talking any English yet. And it
looks up at me and says, "You're ugly."
And I'm like, "What? What is your And
the father's like his first words.
He's talking so early. He's a genius.
What would my feelings be? Would I be
like, "Oh, called me ugly." Or would I
be like, "Wait, let me take OUT MY
CAMERA AND VIDEO THIS. Maybe we can get
HIM TO SAY IT again because it's just a
baby. The words mean nothing."
That's the visual. Somebody's calling
you names.
You imagine the baby's head on his body
and that's doing the talking. It means
nothing to me. It doesn't bother me. It
gives me a little chuckle even. It
doesn't bother me. Now, again, it's not
really that case. It really is someone
your age, so it does [music] hurt. I get
it. But if you can even act indifferent,
like it doesn't bother you. You know
what starts to happen? The bully starts
to get more intense and more extreme
with the bullying because he's losing
grip with his power. You're not
reacting. You're not caring. Every time
he says it, you're just like, "Okay."
Some sometimes people like to say,
"Okay, thank you, I guess." And you walk
away.
And it's all about how you say it,
right? It's not, "Um, thank you, I
guess." cuz that's like I'm bothered.
It's more you have to do a little bit of
an acting job. Or maybe you could really
come to the point that it doesn't bother
you and you simply say okay thanks
[music] and you move on and you get busy
with other things. You go back to a book
you're reading. you go out to play
and he's like, "Wow, it's not
affecting." But he might [music]
increase the intensity at first cuz he's
losing his grip and power. And then
eventually it stops because he's not
gaining what he's setting out to gain,
some sort of power over you through your
reaction. So indifference, [music] your
reaction, not caring at all about what
he's doing. [music] Remember the muscle
with the baby?
That is what we want to focus on. It
doesn't bother me even if [music] it
does. Now again, if it's particularly
nasty or intense or it's not, but it's
going on for a long time despite [music]
you doing this or it's getting physical
and pretty serious, it's hurting you,
all those
what's that?
>> Turn it over. Give it to an adult. 100%.
Even if it's just slightly bothering
you, always talk to your parents about
[music] what's going on in school. 100%.
So keep all that in mind. But these are
the tactics we can use to try to help
ourselves if Sham [music] were the
victim. Those are the things that we
want to try to keep in mind both as
bystander which is the most effective
way to [music] get rid of bullying in a
school in a classroom in a grade and as
victim. The different ways to speak it
out with I statements to make sure that
we talk about it's bothering [music] me.
I don't like it. Not what you're doing
is bad because then he can argue. And
private just means no audience, [music]
no crowd around, nobody around, right?
That's all private means. [music] So
that there's no audience for him to get
laughter from. And you walk away when
[music] you say that quick eye
statement. Doesn't matter if he's
screaming after you. Just drop the seed,
plant the [music] seed, and then move
on.
And finally, if the speaking doesn't
work, the indifference, [music] whatever
doesn't bother me, and you walk away and
keep that up for a few days. Hopefully,
it ends. If it doesn't, you always got
to get bring adults into it. Hopefully,
your friends will come and help you one
last time.
>> I will now take questions.
>> Oh, what are you looking at?
>> Great question. So now the question
becomes, is there ever room [music] to
get physical with the bully? What if the
bully is saying really nasty things?
Should you get physical with him? The
answer is no. Never if it's just verbal.
However, there's [music] one exception.
Let me tell you before I get to the
exception. You know what often happens
when when somebody pushes another
person? [music] He's like, "What? How
dare you? You can't push me." And he
goes to push him back. Let's just
picture it in slow motion right now. So
Ruvane, the bully pushes Shimon.
Shimon's [music] the victim and Shim's
like, "What? How dare you?" And he
decides not to tell him you shouldn't do
that and then to [music] tell an adult
cuz that's a pretty serious physical
thing you got to tell an adult. Instead
of that, Shimon decides, I'm going to
take justice into [music] my own hands
and push Ruvane back. Okay, here's what
usually happens. I don't know why,
[music] but this is what I see usually
happens. Shim in slow motion gets ready
to [music] come push Ruvane back cuz he
deserves it. And as his hands make
contact with his chest and he's about to
shove him to the ground, the door opens,
[music]
in comes the manahel's head to check on
how the class is going. And at that
moment, he sees Shim push Ruvane onto
the ground. Uh, excuse me, Shim, come
with me right now. Now, even if Shim can
figure out a way to explain and prove
and cameras and other things that I was
only reacting, still he can get in
trouble for it. And also the manal is
going to react more to the [music] thing
he saw with his own eyes than the thing
he didn't see depending on what the
circumstances are. Which means
potentially Shim's not only the one who
got pushed first, but now Shim's getting
in trouble. Very often that happens.
It's not It's always a good idea to
avoid getting physical at all costs, but
there's an exception where you have no
choice. For example, shalom, the bully
is pinning the victim down on the ground
and the victim can't escape. He
shouldn't just lie there and be like,
"Um, are there any adults around who can
help me?" He should do everything he
needs to do to [music] get out from that
pin. He might need to push, you know,
punch a little bit. I'm not advocating
for any of that, but he can't let
himself just continue to be pinned down
on the ground. Similarly, if he's being
grabbed, right, he might need to like
kind of push his arms away. So, you're
getting physical to release yourself so
that not so that you could turn around
and get him back physically so you can
run away. And in fact, that's always the
advice, by the way, even for stronger
people in your adult lives. That's
always the advice. Don't engage in
physical force with another person. It
only adds to the risk and makes it
potentially more dangerous. So you have
to keep that in mind and think [music]
about that. It's the same thing here in
school. Obviously baram we're not
dealing with those types of scenarios.
But when it comes to bullying unless
you're stuck and you need to [music]
release yourself, free yourself from the
bully, nothing physical. Yeah.
>> As a bystander, what I would say is
scream out to get an adult to help cuz
it's always better if the adult does it.
But yes, if you see that [music] a
person is being pained and hurt in a
stuck position, you do what you need to
do to pull the person off of him. Right?
So, we're not saying, "Oh, great. I have
an excuse now to punch him in the face."
No, that's not what we're saying. We're
saying have three guys come and pull him
off and that should [music] be
sufficient in the vast majority of
cases. But yes, as a bystander, again,
if someone's stuck pinned, they can't
run away. If they can run away and
there's a fight going on and they're
both actively participating in it, run
and go get someone, you can um from
behind like kind of each guy could be
held back. You know, you sometimes see
that at sporting events sometimes where
they seemingly like in baseball aren't
really going to fight but um they're
making a point like hold me back, hold
me back type of thing. It's funny
sometimes. It looks looks to me like
that a little bit sometimes. But either
way, yes, trying to stop people from
engaging in physical fights can be an a
case [music] where you can get a
slightly physical. We're talking about
just holding someone back, but we're not
talking about really trying to [music]
fight physically with another person.
Great question. That's how I would deal
with generally speaking nothing physical
and the rare exception where it could be
a little bit physical. Excellent. Okay,
so this is these are the ideas that I
wanted to share with you in [music]
regards to bullying. It's a really
important topic. This is just the
beginning of the conversation. We're
just opening up the discussion right
[music] now. We touched on this a little
bit back in sixth grade. If you
remember, we're really getting more
heavily into it here in seventh grade.
This is all about what we want to try to
learn about in these dark classes.
Obviously, if any of you have questions
about specific circumstances relating
[music] to bullying or anything, you
know, you can find me in my office. You
can make an appointment with me. We can
talk. You can catch me in the hallway.
We can talk. You have your wonderful
rebi [music] here as well who who heard
the whole class together with us and he
can be involved and help you. You have
the manal and of course you have your
parents and hashem we won't even have to
use these tactics because we won't have
the bullying all together but just in
case [music] we do we have these ideas
and we should only have
Thank you boys so much. Enjoy your
recess.