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So our next speaker is someone who is no
stranger to understanding helping people
both through the addiction process
and then as I like to say most
importantly
post treatment when the people are
already in sobriety cuz that's when all
the difference is made. There's a
program based in Brooklyn called the
living room which does all sorts of
programming meetings a meetings
shabbatons retreats where it actually
builds a community a peer support
community for people that are struggling
to help them.
And I'm honored to be a personal friend
as well as a colleague of Manakim
Pisnanski who's the clinical director of
that program who really gives himself
the le venees in heart and soul to help
people and is expanding what he's doing
and is really really grabbing the bull
by the horns in this unfortunate battle
that we all have to fight. I'd like to
ask Manakim Pnansky to address us.
Good evening, Shabat everybody.
It's a great honor to be here with you.
Uh figure out what to do with my hands.
Uh great honor to be here with you
tonight. Um it's always exciting for me
to have the opportunity to talk about
this topic even though it's a somber one
and a serious one.
um
because uh I've spent so much of my life
engrossed in it and uh to have the
opportunity to share what I've
experienced is uh is meaningful for me
and um but also because uh SI gave me
the wonderful opportunity not have to
talk about the problem tonight. He asked
me to talk about the the hope and the
solution a little bit which is uh which
is also very excit which is ex um it's
not also it's very exciting for me. So,
first I want to just express um
a sense of u
honor uh to have the opportunity to
address you. First of all, any of the
community leaders that are here um and
uh the speakers that are were before and
after me. Uh it's a great honor to be
here, but also to be in a room of people
that are that are doers that showed up.
It's a cold night. It's a Saturday
night. I'm sure we could all think of
something maybe more fun to do. And uh
I'm sure there could be if we wanted and
if we had as many serious people as
there are in this room in the community
doubled, we could have double and triple
and quadruple the amount of people here.
So um not to pat you on the back in a
disingenuous way, but it's a great honor
to be here with you. People that want to
see change and people that want to see
hope. Um the other thing is I want to
express tremendous gratitude to uh and
to Amu and Kazak for putting this event
together. Um
you know you've heard about addiction
and you've heard about drug abuse. I
think both of those things are important
because they're both very dangerous
things right now. It's very dangerous to
be a drug addict and it's very dangerous
to be a drug abuser. Um, in the past,
you know, you've heard the numbers, but
I can tell you just practically on a on
um on a concrete level, uh, the past
year and a half for me personally, I've
been to more funerals than I've been in
the 12 previous years that I'm running
the living room. Uh, which is, like we
said, is a community in a clubhouse for
young adults in recovery. Um, so
this is a serious topic and, uh, it's a
great honor to talk about it.
So, uh, invariably what happens when I
do an event like this, if my if my
particularly if my name's in like some
kind of flyer or something, a friend
will come over to me in shul and he'll
tell me about some strange addiction
that he has. Uh, there's a there's a
television show I heard on on on TV
about people's strange addictions, but
uh I get I get a whole a whole run of
them. So, my friend came over to me the
other day. I was in SH on Friday and he
came over to me and he told me about his
addiction to traveling and he wanted to
know if it was a problem. So, uh, so,
uh, so I we got to talking about it a
little bit and, uh, and, uh, you know, I
started to ask him things like, "Okay,
what what what is it that you like about
traveling, you know, and he says, well,
you know, I I come up to the, uh, he
works for a large corporation, so he has
like a a high status on the airlines, so
he says, I pull up to the curb, and the
guy comes and takes my bag, and they
usher me through the airport, and uh,
and then I go right through the check,
the uh, security check, and I go right
up and I go to this fancy uh, place the
first class lounge and they give me
drinks and I feel important and I think
I'm addicted to that. So I so I said,
"Yeah, that's that's kind of what you're
addicted to, you know, you finally
someone, you know, acknowledge that
you're valuable, you know, and uh you
know, and he had a laugh, you know, and
we talked a little bit about how
about how that really occurs in a very
significant way in the life of all
addicts, you know, because the truth is
I heard a wise man once say that addicts
are just like everybody else except
more. All the stuff that we do, they do
except at an extreme.
So, uh, you know, and and one of the
things we talked about was that, um, you
can get so trapped in the thought, you
know, that the only way that he was ever
going to feel important enough in his
life was if he traveled with that
concierge status on the on in the
airplane, you know, and to be trapped in
that dependency that I could my my self-
value is reliant upon that. And the
human tendency to get trapped in those
things and really in a lot of ways,
that's really what we see with addicts.
They're really people that are
suffering, people that are abusing drugs
also. They are having fun. They are they
are trying to have a good time to
experience euphoria, but they're also
going through a lot of pain. And uh and
they're trying to find a way to feel
okay. And uh and we need to consider
that especially when we're considering
how to take action to try to rectify the
issue and save their lives. So,
when we're talking about solutions,
well, first I wanted to comment this. I
forgot. I
s asked me to talk about hope and uh you
kind of ask yourself, why would you want
to talk about hope? You know, do I want
to like make everybody feel better? He
just gave us a very heart-wrenching
speech about how serious this is and we
need to get our acts together and we
need to take action. And that's true
both in this community, I know in
Queens, but also the five towns and in
Brooklyn and Muny and Lakewood and every
in every, you know, from community all
over.
So why talk about hope? Is that going to
lead people to complacency? So I want to
give you a sense of why we should talk
about hope. Why hope is a very important
topic when you're talking about
combating drug drug addiction, when
you're talking about combating
overdoses, drug abuse, etc.
So when you're engaging a problem, so to
answer that question, why hope is
important, I'll give you another
question because I'm a good Jew. So
that's what we do. So when you're
engaging a problem, there's really two
ways that you can approach the problem.
You can approach the problem with a
problem ccentric perspective or you can
approach the problem with a solution
centric perspective. And I want to talk
about the difference between those two
things. So a problem centric perspective
is that I have a problem. I show up and
I have a problem. My human nature tells
me I need to get rid of this problem. I
need to get rid of the problem. So, what
am I going to do? Something's wrong. I
have to fix it. Let me figure out where
it came from. Let me eradicate the
problem and make sure it doesn't exist
ever again. Now, that makes sense. It's
a logical thing to do. If I have a
problem, I want to get rid of it. But
there's a few problems with that,
particularly when it comes to addiction,
because that kind of perspective many
times is the result of and the cause of
denial. Which means that I think that
just because I decided that the problem
should go away, it's going to go away. I
think that just because I'm going to
police the problem, it's going to
disappear.
That I think that just because I say
that it's unacceptable, it doesn't
exist. And that's the kind of tendency
that we have to fall into. So we have to
we have to guard against that. So what
do we do? What do we do? We have a
problem. I want to fix it. What do I do?
So one of the things I thought about
talking about tonight is um you know
mentioned um AA meetings and any
meetings. These are two of the larger
12step uh fellowships that exist in this
country. You have some information I
think on the uh on the table over there
about narcotics anonymous na and there's
many 12step fellowships and uh the 12
steps have have been around for 80 plus
years and they've mystified everybody
around them at their effectiveness,
their ability to help people. They are
one of the most effective tools at
helping people that are addicts achieve
abstinence, achieve uh the um being
clean and sober and and uh and living
clean and sober. So, there's a lot we
can learn from them. And this is not
meant to be like a um it's not meant to
be a uh you know a um a commercial for
the 12 steps. That's not my intention.
But but without a doubt, if we talk
about effective models of recovery, they
are some of the most effective models of
recovery.
Now, the novelty in the 12 steps, people
sometimes look at the 12 steps. Well,
sometimes people have resistance to the
12 steps, but then they take a look at
it. You look at the 12 steps and you
find that their wisdom is not new. Their
wisdom is very old. We're very familiar
with their wisdom. It's very it's very
familiar to us. It's it's ancient
wisdom. It's logical wisdom. It makes
sense. It's common sense. But the real
novelty in the 12 steps is in their
order. Is in the order in which they
take at combating the problem. And I
thought it'd be important or maybe
interesting for us to just take a minute
to just kind of consider how they go
about approaching the problem. And maybe
it would kind of shift our perspective a
little bit and how we walk out of here.
Kind of what we do when we walk out of
here. So what the steps do is they begin
with the obvious. They begin with an
admission. Admission of the problem.
Right? Now you assume that kind of
sounds a lot like the problem
perspective that I talked about a minute
ago. Okay. I acknowledge there's a
problem and now I'm going to move on.
But really what they do is they do
something very very interesting. They
say no no no no it's not enough to just
acknowledge the problem. You admit that
you need to admit the problem to
yourself. You need to admit the problem
to your innermost self is a language
that they use. Meaning you need to you
need to accept the problem as it is and
and as it will be. Meaning that I have a
problem that's not going to disappear.
It's not just going to go away because I
will it to go away. It's not going to go
away because I decide not to have it.
It's here and I need to learn how to
deal with it and combat it. So you
think, okay, let's get to the problem.
What's the source? What's the root?
Maybe it's abuse, neglect, emotional
problems. Let me get to the problem. But
that's not what they do. Interestingly,
this is the novelty in them. They say,
"No, no, no. First you need to do is you
need to spend some time developing some
hope that a life free of the problem is
possible." Now, why is this important?
Why should I develop hope that a life
free of the problem is possible? What do
I mean? If I just get rid of all the
drugs, people will stop dying. But
that's not true. It doesn't work.
So how can I develop a hope that the why
should I develop a hope that the that
that a life free of the problem is is
possible because whatever I take now
whatever action I take at this point
whatever I action I take when I've
acknowledged the fact that I can live
free of this problem won't just try to
be managing and containing the problem
policing the problem but rather it will
inspire me to take action to gain
freedom from it to gain freedom from its
grips and learn how to live with this
problem. And I don't just mean for
addicts, by the way. Everything I'm
talking about now is not to talk to to
the addicts that are in the room. I'm
sure there's a number of them. If we
look at the statistics, there's probably
15 or 20 of you in the room. And uh but
but I'm talking to everybody because as
a community, one of the interesting
things that occurs, one of the
interesting things that occurs with
addiction is that it affects everybody
around them and everybody starts
thinking and talking like an addict. So
when we go when talks about sitting down
with a group of principles who refuse to
acknowledge the problem it's because
they are suffering from the same
disorder that the addicts are suffering
from they suffer from a deep sense of
denial that if they stick their head in
the sands the problem doesn't exist so
we need to look at that we need to look
at that as a community okay so what do I
do now okay so I have a hope that
there's a that there's a sense now is it
time to act and they said no no no it's
not time to act first you need to
develop a sense develop an awareness
that there's a power that there's power
outside of you that can help you, that
there's great power. And for us as as
observant and uh as observant Jews, you
know, we believe that power is Hashem,
right? And that Hashem is here. He's
going to help us with this problem that
we are facing
and that we have to face his problem
head on and that we need his help. Now,
the interesting thing about it is when
you acknowledge that that Hashem is here
and you acknowledge that you need his
help, you also acknowledge that he has
given you the problem and he wants you
to face it. But he doesn't want us to
continue to to ignore the problem. He
wants us to face it head on with his
help. So now now if you've done that,
you've acknowledged the problem,
acknowledge as it is. And you have a
sense that there's an opportunity to
live outside of this problem that we
could overcome this problem and live
outside of it. And a sense of
meaningfulness and purposefulness
that this is a spiritual action that we
have to take as a community
to to help the people that need help and
eradicate the acuteness of the problem.
Not that we can eradicate the problem
entirely because it's a human problem.
But eradicate the acuteness of and
provide support for the people that need
it. Now we're ready to take action. And
the actions that you do in the 12 steps
is you further diagnose the problem. You
remove blockages and you learn a new way
of living. And we need to do that just
the same. That's the wisdom that we
learn. So really this is the great power
of hope. We're readjusted. It re it
reorients our thinking towards a
solutionoriented
perspective. We need to come up with a
solution. So first I want to talk about
what's happening. We talked about asked
me to talk about some some some hope.
This is what's going on in the last in
the last three years since Amudum
um started the work specifically that
they're doing. They have referred over
300 people to inatient treatment. 300
addicts who are formerally suffering
drug abusers are in inatient treatment
and 350 to outpatient treatment. Now
that's not the numbers for the entire
New York. That's numbers just for this
specific organization. I'll talk a
little bit about the living room. We try
not to really, you know, living room is
like this uh operates in a non-distinct
building in the middle of Flatbush. We
really try to stay off the radar. But
I'll give you a little sense of what's
going on. So, you would think that the,
you know, there's this huge problem, but
there's really amazing things going on.
We have a population living room of over
150 young adults who are in recovery.
We have 35 young couples that come
there. Some many of them are people that
came to our program and when they were
single after rehab and now have gotten
married subsequently and established
families. Some are people that have that
have been married for a period of time
and and and were able to come to a place
of acknowledging the problem are now
seeking help. And we've been able to
this year in the last year and a half
we've have to adapt our program to
provide a specific program for couples
in recovery. We provide a retreat once a
year with uh with supports and
information for them. We're doing
something very cool and this is I'm very
excited about. This is probably the most
exciting thing that that I'm doing and
and and I want to share with you because
it's it's inspirational and and I get
I'm just like a backseat driver for this
thing. I had this idea,
you know, in Israel, there's a fledging
English-speaking recovery community. In
Jerusalem, you have a lot of people that
are either in in uh in yeshiva there for
the year or maybe they're in Colo there
for a couple of years that are actively
in recovery, you know, and and rec the
recovery community spans the entire
spectrum of the Jewish community. every
level of rel religiosity, every uh
denomination, every background and uh
but one of the things that goes on in
that community is that people are there
temporarily because they're there for a
year or two years or three years or 5
years and then they leave. So the
community is relatively fledging. So I
had an idea that maybe we could take
people from here that are kind of
established a life of sobriety, a life
of recovery and we go there and do a
mission to Israel but it's very
difficult to pay for something like
that. So uh so my friend Arya came up
with a great idea. He came up with a
great idea. He said, you know, everyone
you have all the a lot many
organizations that utilize the Jerusalem
Marathon and they have young people and
they raise money to run in the Jerusalem
Marathon and they get a free trip to
Israel. So he said, what if we get the
young people from the living room to
raise money to run in the Jerusalem
Marathon and instead of spending the
money on the organization, we could
spend the money on this mission. So
we're doing that. We're leaving on
Wednesday, next Wednesday. and uh 15
young people
and uh they're taking time off of work
and and this is this is not this is not
a uh a commercial for the organization.
Has nothing to do with that. This is 15
young people who were previously as
hopeless as described who are now
getting on a plane and they're going to
spend four or five days in without one
break. They're visiting rehabs, visiting
me meetings, going around encouraging
people because there's hope. There's
real hope. If you get ask for help, you
can get help. And I wanted to just add
one I wanted to add one more metric just
uh to to couple with S's metric and uh
and the doctor's metric
since Russash Shana. So since September
we had 55 celebrants celebrate their
year anniversary at the living room
meaning every year someone in sobriety
someone who's in a 12step program or not
in a 12step program they come back and
the year the day that they got sober
they celebrate as a second birthday an
anniversary. So we have 55 celebrants
this year. Eight of them celebrated a
year. 11 of them celebrated 11 two I'm
sorry. 11 of them celebrated two years.
And we had a total of 259 years of
sobriety celebrated this year in the
living room. And I mentioned that
because there's hope. There's real hope
for people that want that want help. And
in the greater Jewish community, there's
tons of things going on. There's a lot
of hope. There's there's uh there's 10
um mental health uh substance abuse
institutions that treat specifically the
fring community. There's on top of that
many many many rehabs who have made a
lot of effort as a result of efforts by
SE and other people in our community to
help them become competent to provide
support and treatment for from people
that need that need that need treatment
rehabs outpatient inpatient recovery
support programs. There's two new
websites that are being that are being
launched just for people in recovery uh
message boards uh support programs. This
is not anything to do with these things
but these things are going on. I was so
excited to hear about these things.
Books are being published every year.
There's two or three books published
either about recovery or people for
people in recovery. The Jewish community
is beginning to respond to this issue.
Unfortunately, as we've begun to
respond, the issue is getting worse.
It's getting worse and it's getting more
dangerous. Our population in my program
has doubled and tripled over the last
four or five years. And of course, you
heard about the the dangerous deaths
that are going on. The awareness about
addiction community is rising and the
awareness unfortunately about the kind
of abuse specifically sexual abuse that
many times is the precursor to a life of
drug addiction and uh drug abuse is is
is uh is being found out but at the end
of the day
it's a dangerous place out there.
There's dangerous drugs on the street as
Dr. Pascal mentioned. There's a
normalization of heavy drug use like
heroin. When I was in high school and in
my early years of my career, kids didn't
do heroin. I mean, kids that had gone on
beyond the level, had experienced drug
abuse and addiction for many, many years
would eventually graduate into heroin.
Today, I can tell you very quick, very
quick, very clearly that young adults
particularly will begin to use drugs and
within 6 months, a year, they're already
using very elicit drugs, cocaine,
heroin, dangerous and elicit drugs. This
is not the progression towards dangerous
and illicit drugs is quicker than ever
and and the last thing is people are
dying. So what do we do? So what do we
do? So I want to share it's mas shabas.
I wanted to share a little bit of a of a
Torah thought with you just just briefly
and then I want to just give some
specific uh comments and then I'll be
done not to take too much of your time.
Okay.
So I was reading the other day I was in
shul I was before dvening I was reading
through the uh the you know before
shakus we read the the episode of
and it says that Hashem challenged he
gave us an heav
and one of the interesting things that
happens is that Hashem gives au this
great nion that he should bring his sons
Isaac up to as a as a as a sacrifice and
and it describes in detail every step
that Aram does along the way. One of the
things I noticed is that it doesn't plan
it doesn't say that he planned how he
was actually going to do it. And if you
look at the if you look at the you look
at the way that it's written in the
Torah and I'm not saying this is but
maybe just something that we could think
about. It doesn't say that he planned
how because maybe he couldn't imagine
doing it but God had given him a and he
said listen I have to just put one foot
in front of the other. I have to put
left foot right foot right foot left
foot one foot in front of the other.
Even at one point says to he says he
says here's you know um you know we have
all the all the material necessary you
know where's the set and says Hashem
will show us the so this is a very
important thing to think about this very
very important thing to think about that
even though the the problem seems so
numerous
but and and we don't know how how we're
going to get through it but at the end
of the day we need to take steps we need
to take steps like this but more and
more steps each community
we need to acknowledge to ourselves that
there is a problem and that it's not
going to disappear just cuz we decide
it's going to. It might never disappear
to some degree because addiction is a
human problem. We need to develop a
culture of compassion for victims of
abuse and sufferers. We need to provide
community awareness like this and more.
You need to share what you hear tonight
with your friends who didn't may have
have the courage or the elacrity to come
tonight. We need to develop more
resources for those who are ready to get
help. Crisis intervention, outreach
support. We need to support the
institutions that are doing that. We
need to advocate and support culturally
competent treatment. There are treatment
programs that are providing treatment.
It's our responsibility as a community
to reach out to those programs, to reach
out to those institutions, political
institutions, to make sure they
understand how to help our community.
And that's each individual community
with all of its its little nuances.
And finally, we need to embrace those
who seek help instead of shaming them.
Lastly, I'll say we must accept I wrote
this down because I want to just say it
the way I I read it.
We must accept that Hashem is presenting
us with this challenge and we no longer
can ignore it or just blame the
sufferers or just try to police them. We
have to educate ourselves, adapt to the
reality and grow, but even more even
more so mature as a community.
May all these efforts be as for the
whole Jewish people to bring us closer
to Migula. Thank you very much.