A Layman and a Lamdan Sit Down to Shmooze.

foreign Siegel a number of weeks ago I told yummy Shafter of Charity bids how amazing last year's ahmudim live stream conversation was with arav Herschel schachter shlita and Rabbi Ephraim Goldberg I told yummy how amazing I think it would be if a regular balabas would have the chance to speak to her shefter about issues and trivial matters in our community and our heritage I am so happy that our shaktar agreed to do this and I'm honored to conduct this conversation thank you RAF shakter for being here today a few minutes ago we had the opportunity to David minta in the same minion and frankly watching you Davin mintra for me is a tremendous moose and I remember someone once said to me that when they had the opportunity to be a shamish for of Segal not related Manchester of is Hamid them would literally wait outside his office when they knew he was going to save Rona or really any bracha because their best mushrooms was hearing him say abraha I'm wondering if there was an experience in your life where you remember watching a specific person do a specific Mitzvah or act in a specific way to you felt like a living musters moose my main influence was from repsolubachik so I would go a few times to stay by my aunt and uncle who lived in Boston to Daven at absolutely yeah we were very influenced by the way he doesn't by the way he acted sure I want to if we can talk a little bit about the after effects of covet and I don't mean long covert that certain people unfortunately suffer from talking about the after effects in our community there are people who thought that certain things would and certain things would not remain in our community after the time of the pandemic for instance many people thought that weddings which we proved during covid could be held with 10 20 30 people with a minimal menu and not such extravagance might be able to be scaled down after covet and not and not imitate the size and the scope of the gigantic weddings that would take place before that period of time I don't think it's remained that way I think people have sort of gone back to the way things were did you think that there would be some type of Musser in the whole pandemic situation that would make people go ahead and live a less extravagant life when it came to these celebrations or did you have less confidence and you're not surprised that things have gone in this manner I didn't have a have a minute that things would change and when it comes to davening Let's feel a bit sieber versus Fila in one's home there are people who had this experience of for the first time for some people actually diving in private every single day and there are those who felt that it was much more meaningful to them it was a better way to dive in I personally could not adjust well to that and could not wait to get back to a shul for real to feel a bit seaboor what do you think of the after effects spiritually of this pandemic a lot of people had more cover on there when they dive in slowly privately they could have an up loud they could hear themselves one should Daven out loud in such a way it should be much merely osnov uh now that they dub and those who impact some still darling Beijing but those who went back to that more characters sudden bitsiber and you can't dump them so quickly so they should cut back a little bit so say less bridged absolutism a little bit it says in our thing it says in the big Havana it's better to say less than than to say a lot and not to have kavana they say in the name of Rabbi Hut that he coined an expression that it was relevant for his yesheep and all the yeshivas unfortunately told me actually because if you're not going to have kavana anyway so why should he say somebody slick has so many kidneys if you don't know what you're talking about to say less he would cut back on the Slickers in in heimbledon but it should be told it's better to say less of a hurricane rather than to get all the words pronounced but without we Hebrew is not our natural tongue we're born in America so we don't really speak Hebrew so quickly so if you if you dive in a little slower you can have more carvana simply for the pirish you alluded to the fact that there are people that still are dominating privately whether you wanted to be in that position or not the reality is that your leadership during the pandemic indicated to many around this country for sure how they should behave and what they should be doing regarding their synagogues I'm not asking if you have regrets about anything that went on at that time but were there ever any second thoughts knowing that shuls would be closing and knowing how dangerous that is for schools to be closed even in the atmosphere of the pandemic we had no choice there was a suffix suck on I remember there was a meeting I attended by Zoom I think it was on a Thursday night David Cohen spoke first because he had to give a Shiro something then after him they had a few doctors spoke and a few upon Him spoke so I said based on what they said it's a suffix Sakana I said we should close all the shows and close all these sheaves right away so their abundance said no we're not going to close it within 12 hours they had to change their position within 12 hours it already became a suffix okay I didn't understand what that javeamina was he can't go to school if you're going to pick up the the contagious uh disease everyone else is going to get sick can have second thoughts and for those who are not yet going back to school we need to ask the rabbis I guess around the country to do what they can to Spur them on and get them back so you should search at the season of the year when he's most available in Mars made sugar and the Vishal me says in the location where he is more available that's by basic nurses it's always preferable that doesn't be basic nurses rather than uh jumping around to a couple of different topics when when my studio burned down I got a call from the amazing yummy schachter who you know very well your son of course and he said to me that based on an experience that he had had with his family he once had mentioned to you that he felt that it was unfair for him to be in that challenging experience because of the The Good the good things that he does in a certain area of life I'm being a little bit vague but I think you know what I mean and he mentioned to me that you had said to him that in your own personal experience uh referring to a time before you were married and then shortly after you were married you had been tested with certain missions and you felt looking back years later that one of the reasons who did this was to give you a certain sensitivity when certain people would come with with difficult problems to you that they needed solved or advice on you'd be able to relate better to them and he said to me that because of the experience we went through with this fire and so much destruction we will have an opportunity to be very sympathetic and have you know ex extra TLC so to speak tender loving care for those who've been through this type of experience with that in mind is it hard when situations like that that you might have been through that he was alluding to is it hard to poskin Silas or to lead people in a certain direction when you know just how difficult the pain is that they're going through when you can relate to the suffering that they're experiencing does it have is is it more difficult to pass conciles for people like that because of how the difficulty that you're familiar with I think it's more difficult it makes it easier you can you can empathize with the person better you went through problems and you realize everybody has difficulties and challenges so you feel uh easier to help him out and it's not a matter of thinking you might be not objective enough or too subjective because you can relate so much to it no the sympathy is part of the Sharma how do you have the right degree of Sympathy for the person earlier today there were people who wanted to take pictures with you and I was wondering what you think of that entire practice do you ever sometimes say to yourself the rambam never have to go through this he didn't have to worry about people stopping him in the street to take pictures with him I wonder who goes through your mind when that experience happens if it means something to them to have my picture hanging on the wall or whatever so can you hear Watson if it gives them a reason so good when you're at a wedding and the massage the person who is assigned to be the beside a condition realizes that you're in the room and I think it's happened where they defer to you to be the Messiah kadushan what goes through your mind when that when that happens I feel very bad because the husband didn't ask me to be Messiah conditions happy and then he's not happy so some sometimes the rabbi who was asked to be Messiah to say the beer has everything but he's still the Messiah condition two titles he's officially the Messiah condition and I'm saying the bich has everything on his behalf is that the better way to go yeah because the husband wanted the other person to be the Messiah I think so again just bouncing from topic to topic um I I and one of the reasons I wanted to bring this up to you is because certain things about our tradition Heritage sometimes rub me the wrong way I am it bothers me when people say zamiris on Shabbos and they don't use shame Hashem because if one looks in through this mirrors it's written with shaymachen and I would think and again I'm just a balabas who doesn't know much but I would think that as I lead our Shabbos table and the experience of a wonderful Shoppers meal I would think that these mirrors are more of its Fila not just words that should be said and sound more of its Fila something that you know Generations past certainly took very seriously I know how my father and grandfather said smyrus it was you know uh it was never interrupted it was never uh you know dealt with differently than it as if it is it's felon so often I hear that people are not using sheam Hashem during those mirrors I was wondering what you thought of that I personally usually not pronounce same Hashem and this beerus the Homer is based on a ramoah's comment in it says that if one forgot to say alanisem in Birch Amazon you don't have to repeat the benching and Purim it's a question is so if one forgets me you don't have to repeat the benching the fact that Mario says you're not really obligated to say alanisama benching it's only a minute you're committed to it's not a hepsic and it's a meaning that we do so there are more rights even though one forgot online listen doesn't have to repeat the mention but after he gets to the other Mario and he says many bakashusa Rahman ABC different things let him say another harassment is say the whole pivot foreign [Music] so the Michigan Bureau asks quotes all the acronym who are surprised why is the emotions it's a Trina it's like Gora from all the other and all the trainers that we say about we say between us all the time so he they say most don't follow that Rama but there are more apparently thinks that when you're saying personal trainers that are not composed by the ancient you really shouldn't pronounce shaymacha so let's say when you say all the piute there are more would seem to recommend you shouldn't say the Sheamus I'm then either would he recommend that to the receiver as well I don't know good question well thank you the uh clear that the ones who composed the the this mirrors intended that you should pronounce because it fits into the rhyme right correct and it's also written with Sheamus yes yes but the Rama has this woman not to remember one of their abundant from Manhattan uh sentence on brisk and he came back after a year and it didn't say shame Hashem anymore in this mirrors and my the father was upset that's what my son picked up and risked not to say Shane Hashem and his mirrors okay I could sympathize with that father okay so uh 50 50 half of Claudius Rose says half doesn't or probably 95 apparently yeah everybody does say okay very few follow the Rama right uh have a feeling more people may follow you after this conversation but uh I guess the remains to be seen um when one is an oven so the the Tendencies to make sure to diving for the Ahmed as often as possible you want to say as many khadeshim Etc right so I've this is what I was told when I was a novel I was told that if the shoe allows you to Daven if the shul says get up in Daven you should never give up the opportunity to Daven however there is this uh there is this minute in certain synagogues that if um if it's rosh chodesh for instance they may not let however if there's a shul that has no problem within of eldavani is it legitimate for an oven to say my meaning is I don't know because I I always thought because of the urgency that we always want that an oven always wants to make sure to say as many Kardashian as possible and down for the yamud that this is only an issue of being a shul minute and there's no such thing as a personal minute what do you think interesting question I never gave it any thought I live across the street from broyer's Canada so embroyers the minig in Germany was the Prima got him was the galatiana but he lived in Germany and he wrote all this forum in Germany so he writes dominicus any time when you don't say you don't allow a novel to damage so Friday afternoon they don't have enough of them they presented as if we have to suffer with the other long enough all week long so we have to suffer on the Friday afternoon also but I don't think that's the reason why it's like a yantus we don't allow a novel to dominate we want to bet about Philip and that's what it's a matter of but if the oval is an excellent about I do know some that are that are good about it yeah and then we should probably have the oven right that's what I would think says like that if the oval is the best beltsvilla so you let him doubling I was actually in a situation like that where she was mourning nobody in the show and they said to me but I didn't realize that in fact I should have done it because I was the only one there who knew the new stuff but still can someone refuse in other words if there's a shul that says we allow ones because you know with Halal Etc should someone say or or is it legitimate to turn it down and not go up to them there are people who travel when people are traveling on the road they'll go you know 70 miles out of their way to make sure to stay Cottage and to make sure to you know if they can down for the ombud because and here they're right there in front of the Umbra and they're saying and they're refusing to go up because of this supposed personal minute and I'm wondering if the personal and shul minute if a sure many can be a personal make and someone assume that because they grew up in a school that don't allow another they themselves should not go ahead and do it probably not I never gave an iron thought but probably you're right it's probably not an individual mimic probably a community manic right so in this community they don't have that many they shut down yeah what do you think of the effort to ban alcohol in our schools uh I think Rabbi Billet did a big mitza started the trend yeah and he deserves a big yeah for many things that's one of the many things he doesn't he didn't allow any alcohol that's very good I think they should Outlaw it on all the shows scandalous while Wine and Spirits is you know important in our tradition I mean there's a place for it certainly in our tradition the issue is I assume they just got out of hand at some point yeah unfortunately yeah [Music] um there's certain areas in Jewish life that I think my impression is that we've become somewhat lenient with for instance the issue of um many of us are so mocked on on certain things especially when it comes to Shabbos and it seems that that when it comes to asking a non-jew to do something for us we are not nearly as careful how that's done and whether it's even allowed to be done to begin with uh it's sort of a consumer-driven trend I would call it what do you think is there a way to I agree is there a way to education in this area I remember I give a share uh Sunday through Thursday five days a week so I remember once on Thursday very often I do Parsha on Thursday if I gave for sure it's too much so on Thursday I'll give on the parish so remember one Thursday I told them at the end of this year as I mentioned to the boys that this shop is going to be in a certain Community it'll be remain nameless now and I have to give it to Russian show what area do they need Musa in so one of the boys in the cliff screams out right away amirulanachri wow they all have maids and all the maids so a shop is I'm not going to pop them over the head to tell them that they're violation I kind of middle of nowhere so first I spoke about the plastic and the power chairs only belongs to the Jewish people then then I told over a story that I remember we once um in Montreal for a Shabbos and we were eating on shop this morning by a certain fellow prominent balabas there who was a big Mizrahi leader and his father was a big Miss broccolator so he I told over this story his father had a maid and when Rabbi Herzig was the chief Rabbi a long time ago so his Rabbi Herzog ate by his father on Shabbos morning so the father was showing him his Library I had a very good library but it was dark in the room so Robert was taking the Swarm to the window trying to squinting with his eyes to try to read from the safer so the non-jewish maid came in she turned on the light so rubber headset walked out of the room so they made yesterday what did I do I always turned on the lights for you so the battle boss told us why told the maid that strictly speaking in that we're not allowed to ask you to do it and even if he did on your own we're not allowed to gain any benefit from it that's why the rabbi walked out if he would have turned on the lights for your own purposes then we can gain benefit also so years go by the father passed away and the son Josh and the library and the maid and now Rabbi Goran is the chief of sorry but government is eating by the volleyball shop this morning while the boss is showing him his libraries around Texas safer to the window and his quinting is trying to look at the safe so the maid walks in she turns on the light and she sits down flaps down and she starts reading the big magazine looked magazine a life when the gigantic magazines so rubber groaners look and they're safe then after three minutes that way may tiptoes out of the room so Rabbi Gordon says what's going on over here so the balabas says because when Rabbi Herzog was here she turned on the lights and he walked out of the room and then we explained to her then if she turns on the lights for her own purposes then we can gain benefit so I told over a human story then I spoke mildly about it's not right so it's interesting if the Musa wanted the balabatham the show comes over he says he's really I didn't say who the family was he said he's related to the family then they just died last week that's the footnot and they just died last week wow very interesting he never had too much and the tanoim knew that is not going to have too much that's a tastesis interprets so they made a dinner even after he did them for the Jew he's still not allowed to gain benefit because they knew the Jews would ask and they'd make believe that did not read their Nana's answer that's why this is on his own you're not allowed to gain benefit so it's interesting right yeah I asked the question thinking that every generation has its challenges but it sounds like every generation had this challenge yeah I remember once we were in South Africa for a week and uh and we stayed by a balabos very fine by the bus and uh and his maid was doing the laundry in the same room where we were eating the Shabbos Mill in in the washing machine to wash the clothing was in the kitchen in the in the dining room she was washing the clothing from all week long in the presence of the strictly speaking is probably she can do it whenever she wants she decided she wants to do it on on Shabbos but it's not right you mentioned the moment about ago about your sheer and my boys asked me what I remember about your sheer and I was thinking about uh it's many years ago of course and I was thinking about it and what I remembered was how many people would come in during the Seder time before the sheer began to consult with you on halachic issues and to ask you shylus I mean it was it was endless for for obvious reasons but I'll never forget when your father would come in to ask you a scheiler to discuss the Gomorrah with you and I I always felt that the the what what must be going through your mind that you know half of you want to show him the proper covet and to you know to to exhibit proper cover to your father and at the same time he's coming to ask you and you know to ask you a Shiloh and how does that look you know and I'm wondering what went through your mind when that when that was going on don't remember everybody so it was not a unique experience or anything different I didn't really appreciate my father that much he was a very big Tomah I didn't that was his son I was close to him so I didn't appreciate him but they told me that when he was a tummy in Yeshiva he knew all the knowledge they used to give him they used to give him they used to ask him he would say over the whole argument back and forth in the whole mascara and other things like that yeah I uh children a lot of times don't appreciate their parents enough that's remember for a while we had the the Hassan and the shul but come Shabbos and he lived in Williamsburg where the whole Community was but a bit confident so he used to tell me a few times you should pay attention to your father's rushes they're just as good as the satma rep is Russia's that was the highest praise they can give let's go to say a lot of what I say in hash coffee is what I heard from my father in his rash essential yeah and it's interesting so I said to my boys that your father had a reputation for being an expert in certain areas if that was uh earlier I mentioned I used the term um consumer driven when it comes to some of our some of the things that have uh um that are happening as we speak in our tradition and I it it um Rebbie you and I have had conversations in the past about spherosa Omer because since I'm so involved in Jewish music I was always curious what your opinion was and during covet in fact we spoke about you had given what became a pretty well-known Hector or a pretty well-known observation during covid that during Sphero when people genuinely not listen to music if they feel because of the loneliness of covet or because the isolation of covet that the music would help and I asked you if that if that was a header that I could rely on in terms of what I present every day and you said to me that it's really you know meant for private people who feel like a benefit from it but if generally you know I present acapella music or more sphera type music in a regular year you recommend that I stick with that that the in that the discussion about it was only for someone privately which I totally understood but in general to me and from the position I sit in it seemed seems like the consumers are basically driving what we do and don't do during sphera and the three weeks meaning there's now a trend in Jewish music and it's been like this now for 10 20 years where there's a header to listen to acapella music which might be you know more rock sounding and more you know and more lively and exciting than than uh than regular music but because it's acapella it's fine there's no musical instruments and the Khazana music and selections like that the heart vacous music that we would play in the old days during sphera to make a demarcation between sphere and the regular year you know it some might say that's more appropriate I say it's consumer driven and I'm wondering if you think that ideally it's probably better for people to focus during that period of time on things like hazanas and slower music then go for what is mutter on the acapella scene is correct but we sometimes have to Cave into what the consumers want I guess speaking of sphere in the three weeks you think there'll ever be a time where we as ashkenazic Jews make weddings during the three weeks especially as it's so difficult to find dates sometimes to make weddings probably will it will happen sure they say that when they first started and it's like later tell them they did so many years ago so they said it's going to take a long time when they get to tough Tish above they're going to write they used to be a first day there'll be about something that by the time they finish the encycloped Thomas did there's some English will be built so they have to write there used to be a ton it says they used to be the three weeks and the nine days and we won't have anything right I don't have happiness but my question was more was more a practical question before we get this whether you know there'll be a period of time during the start of the three weeks before the nine days where we might say we can make simplest because it's so hard to find time oh to make simplers at other times do you think that might happen because in sphera and I just discovered this because I asked someone from Israel about what goes on after pesach and they said there's virtually no weddings and I assume this is true it's dasiochid but their virtually lives there there's no weddings between very very few weddings between pesach and year what happens in America I said what happens in America they try to stuff in as many weddings as possible I'm sure in the old days was not like that people had more we're much more guarded about how to about how to you know behave during Sphero let's put it that way I seem to remember when I was much younger there used to be weddings during sphere when a boy was drafted into the army and he wasn't going to be around so he would get married during svira and then he would go to the Army thinking now it's a soul also right but that may be an exception maybe it's not you know Nationwide but my question is wasn't there a period of time in America when it was almost unheard of to make a wedding after PESA until like bummer right right so we've now seen that that changed right and now we make weddings until the very end of versatile this year good thing bad thing men hug him they're all men hug him men hug him come and go right and as the three weeks regarded so much with with more respect in the sphera I don't get that impression I think people take svira as seriously when it comes to restrictions as the three weeks but the three weeks you would think should have more of a solemn atmosphere than the sphere right I would think so right yeah so maybe it'll take longer to start having weddings during the three weeks um remains everything it certainly does what would you suggest when someone feels they have an opportunity to be mccarth people who would appreciate a good Shabbos meal but they know they're going to drive to that Shabbos meal is there any way to invite people if you in fact know they're going to drive to be there one would be in violation of lift neviso if you mislead the person into believing that it's permissible to drive or if you give the person he knows you're not allowed to drive but you give them the ticket to to you give them you lend them an automobile but if the people know that Orthodox practices that you don't drive oh we tell them in events Orthodox practices that we don't drive if they don't know so I'd like to invite you to stay over by me for shop Mr Hall of Shabbos and then they say they don't want to stay the whole shop is they'd like to come part of the challenge but I told them Orthodox practices that you don't drive so you're not obligated to tell them that it's a skilo and Aquarius you have to tell them once you tell them that what their tax practically don't drive so there's no violation of lift Navy not misleading them and you're not giving them the ability to you're not enabling them to do their they have the automobile they can drive to the beach they can drive to the movies they can drive to Philadelphia they can drive wherever they want so then there's no violation who left Nevis strictly speaking so you can invite them to come on Shabbos our Salvation was very strict about that he's he told the robot and if you think if you know the balabatham gonna drive to your home and travel to see an outline of item period but many times there's a way to get around that you you tell them what the dinners tell them the practices you have to tell them it's an Issa corres and you're not enabling them you're not misleading them I mean neither are you enabling them to do the others so strictly speaking there's no loose neighbor may I ask you about the biggest mystery in Jewish life which is more khushev Jose I don't fully understand why Robert said that his father always wanted custom varations that when you begin that's more important I thought they quoted this is a special din the last the death of mashabino so there are four different interpretations and the word yachid so there are more quotes from the Mordechai the interpretation the most prominent person the most learned person in the show should be that we read manifest away and you should be known took over so the rabbi in the show took over now you can say reptile electric died and then there's nothing that's what a lot of people say they don't ask any Shadows to anybody because nobody knows anything anyway because he died and you should have been no took over and you should have been done died so the local Orthodox Rabbi took over so I thought that uh Center according to the that interpretation is the biggest is only a minute that your lane variations on on simchaste you don't like that's how that's how he suffered that you're not imperations foreign so if someone wanted to buy you one of them I should suggest yeah that's the one our community I think suffers and I use that word only because the balabhatam often are the ones who are well maybe suffering is the wrong word when it comes to bura I think there's a lack of balance between kavana and this rule and um and being careful not to be matriarchal um and someone told me a story about the villagone that um the subject or the topic of tiracha tibur is so vital in our tradition that the rabbanim even hesitated to um to implement uh a double Parsha on a shab is because it would be Matrix but they had no choice because of the calendar they had no choice but to Institute and someone told me the story of the villain and then covet actually reminded me of this where there was a blizzard in town in Villa there was a blizzard and there was no minion on Shabbos so the next Shabbos they wanted to Lane to parshus to make it up seabor has an obligation to hear the the laning and um the villagnegon said that he would not allow them to do that without every member of the shul who was there being approached personally to ask this is the story it was told to me to ask and Sabella were ninth generation from The Ville mcgone to ask uh directly to the person each individual personal are you Michael that we can go ahead and do this that's pretty powerful and I thought of this during covid because there were people who were reading six parishes seven parishes you know to in order to do it and I said you know just make sure I was trying to communicate to them you know if someone just walked into school and came into the situation shop this morning that now you're reading seven bars shows I don't know how fair that is and look how the villain going approached it so I know that's an extreme example and and a covid um uh byproduct uh but what uh in general what what can you tell me about and what Our obligation is when trying to service the community properly it's a consideration they have dinner tomorrow okay someone once uh I was at a minion they had taken out two towers it was young the morning and um I said to the gentleman wanted to take the second Torah into the other room and roll it to the proper place or Mafia so people left away says no it's very close it'll just take two minutes I said oh we finally have a sheer for dear country boy if it's two minutes or less and I thought it was you know somewhat inconsiderate of him because it's such a vital topic but I guess there needs to be a good balance in the Yeshiva rabban Liechtenstein introduced when he was still an American introduced to practiced and I Rosh Hashanah they finished Avenue it's around 2 30 in the afternoon already it's late so the hyattam says that suracion on a regular week they're going to eat a tuna fish sandwich or something that's okay but it takes a long meal a long time so we have still have the practice the small group stayed behind after musaf everybody leaves and then we have a minion 20 people we dubbing so we leave out avina Market so someone asked but in the sitter it said you got to say so I said do you know the reason why we don't say Vietnam after myself because it's late and people are hungry that's the real reason because of the hungrier it's later it's a half an hour later so you certainly lead up in a volcano a lot of times we leave that tree is because of their extra three loose I'm going to add that to my territory repertoire that is a good one that is a good one um I heard someone I I was I was somewhere and somebody was bragging about the and to their credit was bragging about the uh Dedication that their grandson has the terrorist study which was you know again to be admired I mean they were bragging you know in a good way that their grandson is just you know learning the entire time and they said to me that his the grandson has made a decision he's not going to get a driver's license so I said why won't the grandson get a driver's license I thought maybe it's you know uh it's bitultura you know takes time because if he gets a driver's license then his parents may ask him to drive this one here drive this one here to do favors for them that's going to take away from learning and I was curious what your reaction is to that story have to be a little more over my breath I don't think that's right by learning but whenever the obligation to learn is when you have free time when you don't have free time there's no obligation to learn it's not that eating a meal and and going to sleep and making up on us is such a big Mitzvah that is in the first place they'll only go and says to learn the first place when you have free time so whenever there's a Mitzvah keep it out of the aim and then there's a Mitzvah to help other people so you're not supposed to learn that time that's not free time a person is going to say he's busy learning so he doesn't have to double mean he doesn't have the private Seder no limit has the person is only going to be learning is and you're going to ignore them it's not right there's a debate about where to sail what kind of shama in the morning whether it should be attached to another bracha or whether it should be as most of our sadh Durham have it as an independent paragraph and I've asked this question of Torah Giants before and uh there's different opinions of course I was curious what do you think the right practice should be I thought that it said in children so if aristidur imprinted in a different place still has to be said at the right time I thought so I think a lot repented right right there's some but there are many that that many that have it after because of Terror yeah do you think there are different rules when it comes to sukis do you think the different rules for those who live in private homes and those live in apartment buildings is there a built-in tirka a built-in Tsar when one has to schlep the food up and down and when eating in the Sook is so much more inconvenient yeah and we're both Department dwellers I believe so yeah so it might be a weighted question in my apartment building there used to be uh uh one silken for the whole building and they had a lottery who has the right to eat by the first shift who can eat by the second shift now the building has quite a few circus and you can eat no and the shoulders look also so you can eat whatever you want now then add the normal shifts yeah that's the obligation 30 days before yantef you have to figure out where you're going to Daven and Roshana where you're going to eat in the sucker you have to start preparing in advance and figure out where's your Suka gonna be to make it as convenient as possible can't wait till silk is and then say Ahmed the closer is a mile away Sam Potter that's what the 30 days is all about right when one's close it's such a is still a tirka no that that yeah you have to go to your children for so because then I go to go to your parents or go to some other go to friends are there any legitimate questions I'm sure you've heard all the questions about whether they use plastic tablecloths or what type of shoes he wears and what he does or doesn't do on a daily basis it says are there any legitimate questions are there questions that that that deserve to be asked and deserve to be answered truthfully sure I remember my wife read a um with one of the boys in the Yeshiva with the daughter of a prominent member of broyus so the girl's father asked one question to my wife if the boy will have a Shyla will he ask Rabbi broyer will he ask Rabbi Schwab so she said he'll ask my husband so he couldn't say no based on that they got married they lived happily ever after and they're marrying off all of their children now with the glitcher that's a good question who will they ask their sign let's do does the boy have a lot of boys they learned the new shivas but they don't have a rabbi they don't have childish to anybody that's not a good cement there are questions that the boy and the girl have to discuss there was one acquaintance of mine a friend of mine who got married he was very picky until he finally got married it took him he must have been in his 40s I think when he finally got married and then after he got married he finds out that the girl doesn't want to have any children that's what he was waiting so long to marry girl so he got divorced a week later that was ridiculous that they they have to discuss that on data they have to make sure that it's assumed what's assumed that you're interested in having children the girl never never mentioned it to the boy she doesn't plant that many children you have to make sure that they uh that they're on the same level of religious observance or this driving to become more observant if they both don't want to be observant they gotta they got to decide that before they get married you're going to have one is going to be observed one is not it's going to cause friction that's a that's a very important question Rebbie you and I over the years have had a conversation or two about harabai at yushalayim Israel you've said to me that as long as the rabba note has a certain position with Arabia you felt that rabbis around the world or at least yourself you know should fall in line with that position in terms of visiting there Etc which I of course totally respect I was just wondering what do you think the role is of diaspora Jews in general when it comes Jerusalem there are those who who say if you don't live there you shouldn't have an opinion and certainly shouldn't publicly voice an opinion about what goes on there others have said to me you know what maybe with Israel that's the case but yerushalayim belongs to all Jews including those into diaspora what's your perspective on it I think it's important that the Jews and hutzlords should let their opinion be heard I think is very important I think we do have the right to express our opinion split the difference between your shalam and Israel or even the entire that's the merits is all awesome you know and that would mean again with all due respect when it comes to the harabite issue we should also make our voice heard whether it's in line with the rubber nut or possibly not so if the rabbin takes a stand so we sh we should try to impress upon the Robin Hood maybe they should change their position right okay but we shouldn't openly disagree with them the OU used to have the a convention on Thanksgiving weekend every other year right gold used to have every year and oh you used to have every other year the election was always the OU president the announced the new president yeah so I think the last two conventions maybe were in yerushalayim so I remember uh at one of them I forgot about who the president of the oil was at that time he said that the Israeli government when they were talking about uh withdrawing from from that section they were only concerned about what the Orthodox Jews in America are going to say and because the OU always had the policy they don't take a stand on Israeli politics so because of our silence that's why they gave away so the president said from now on we can't follow that position it's our fault that they gave away and all the records that descending territory soil from is all our fault so that he's he said at the next convention which was also unusual line he said we can no longer follow that position we have to we have to let it be known what our position is wow does it frustrate you how much disposable income is in the Jewish community and how it's being utilized especially in light of how many people really need it that's where myself Feinstein once said in our good convention he once got up that's how they say he once got up and he said they asked me shyless they want to name a baby girl after a man how do you convert a male name into a female name how do you convert a female name how come nobody ever asked me where to tell I stuck if I have X amount of money somebody sat down someone came home and asked them how should I divide this so he wrote a true and then about it they asked ridiculous sometimes yes ridiculous others and the most important child is waited where did distribute its doctor to they don't ask they want their own in general what is your perspective on being guests in a foreign country we spoke about Israel and the influence that we and now you've really educated Us in terms of the obligation we have to be involved in what's going on in Israel I was not familiar with the OU construction story but the way we uh the way we behave as guests in a foreign country it seems that compared to other times in our history we've gotten very comfortable here in the United States and I wonder if that strikes fear in you if it's not a concern what's your perspective we send her God there every year some of the Jewish people when they go into gallus have to have in mind that we're only there temporarily hasidim says Lord should never build us a brick building you can buy a brick building but you shouldn't build the brick building a brick building means you plan to stay here for a long long time unfortunately many Jews in many communities build not only brick buildings they like they plan to stay there after hundreds hundred years after mashir comes with too much shakua and groots Lawrence what are we davening or always diving and please bring us back there it says we have the private to go back there which is on our own the doors are open the Israeli government is inviting everyone to come Terrace Israel maybe it won't be the multi-millionaire that you were before but you can lead a Wonderful Life there remember once I tell the story to my students I was once speaking for the OU in Los Angeles they used to have uh yeah between December 25th and January 1st a lot of students in graduate school have off and a lot of businesses are closed so they used to have a whole week of sure now they now they just have a weekend but then years ago they used to have a whole week so I remember I was there for a whole week and then I was taking a plane an LL plane to go back uh territory so the plane took a while to took off didn't leave on time I saw a summer go from the business section to the back to the washroom he looked very familiar I didn't remember exactly how I knew him and then when he came back to walk back to the front he stopped by my seat and he said hi Reb how are you I was in my chair 20 years earlier whatever so I remember he was wearing jeans and and sneakers without any socks so I said what are you up to what do you what do you do for a living so he tells me he's a radiologist he used to live in Los Angeles and he used to make two million dollars a year I can't count so high two million dollars a year and now he is married with Children they all moved there to Israel he bought a home in the poor section in Savion where they put people live and and he only and also he only makes a half a million dollars a year his wife cannot get used to living in poverty because he only makes a half a million dollars a year I was going to get my five dollar bill nebergh didn't have socks to wear he's gonna donate five and he says he came back to Los Angeles to try to get back his job in the hospital where he used to be the doctor make a half a million dollars a year that's not enough that's a little ridiculous we all have a Mitzvah to live in there it's Israel you have to provide hootslots with rabbanim so that's an absolutely he was very upset when his children moved there to Israel he always used to say that anyone is a fighting assimilation funny intermarriage and they have to stay they have to stay they used to say the Marshall that the general and the Army is not allowed to leave until all the soldiers are accounted for the captain of the ship is not allowed to leave until all the passengers are accounted for us I used to live in my heart what captain of the ship what John what kind of mission is giving then years later I saw that's the expression the maharamshikh has such an expression one of istanbirthik was the Tamba that was some safer and they were fighting reform after that some self had died reform got stronger so the sub Cipher the salad were the main generals fighting uh Reform movement at that time so one of the time of the maram Sheikh who had Arab honest in in Hungary didn't enjoy he was successful fighting with them he didn't enjoy he was offered a rabbinical position in erits Israel in late the middle late 1800s so he grabbed it they they were going to give him a salary she'd sit and learn and pass concertos and give she urine and shine so that was great so he was packing his belongings to move territory soil and he sent a letter to his rabbit to the mom Sheikh and she gave him a blessing on the move so he writes back I can't give you a blessing you're doing shall like it then and he writes when you're a student in my Yeshiva we had no right to drift you into the army to be a general to fight reform many of your classmates wanted the business but you volunteered and you're a successful General and he writes the general in the Army is not allowed to leave the front and the captain the ship exactly word for word and that's the letter the marmship that's the letter there at prime minister wrote to rough cook rough cook was negotiating with prime minister he should retire from vilna he should move there at Israel Rob cook is going to be the chief Rabbi there it is going to be his title Chief Rabbi the rest of the world and they had a home for him they had an apartment and had a salary everything was covered and he was going to come and then the last minute sent them a letter the letter is printed that their abundance of illness say that he still needed he shouldn't leave hutzlords so he quotes this from the maram shikh that just like Imam Sheikh said that whoever is osik and rabbana so many rabban and many lords think that the world can't exist without them and they're holding that's a little bit of a joke not everybody is so in the indispensable as the expression goes in many different languages cemeteries full of all of those indispensable people and the world keeps on going but so you have to provide some the communities on Chrysler but some leadership of some rabban but we all have the opportunity to move territory we really should we really should we're not going to make the two million dollars a year but we can make the half a million dollars here we should get used to living in poverty half a million dollars a year it's not right now we have the opportunity to move therapy as well and everything there is fantastic the high tech is fantastic and now it's Israel there's so much uh fantastic work that can be done in Arizona people getting no Bell awards for all the things that they're accomplishing Abby I hope you enjoyed this half as much as I did very good and I thank you very much and I give you a birhas that you should continue to lead us with great strength for many years amen thank you very much thank you foreign [Music]