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[Re-release] Tishrei With The Rebbe with Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel
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** We’re revisiting this special conversation in honor of Yomtov. Regular programming will continue after Simchas Torah** In this episode, Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel, a Mashpia in Queens, shares his personal memories of spending Yom Kippur, Sukkos, & Simchas Torah in the Rebbe’s presence. It will surely draw the listener in to experience the holiness of Yom Kippur, as well "the Rebbe’s Yom Tov," where every moment was alive with unparalleled joy, connection, and chassidishe warmth.
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that.
And there was jumping.
I mean, how was there
push jumping? I will not forget at one
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Thank you, Rabbi Vogel, for making the
time to have this discussion.
>> Thank you.
Okay. So, I felt it would be appropriate
to leave the am that is listening to the
podcast
with basics. And what I mean by basics
is tish is the time where one of the
primary focuses of is uh
with the and that everything that that
entails and that the experience and the
best way to do that is to speak to that
have experienced it and know how to give
it over and I think that's very
beneficial for me personally and for
thousands of people throughout the
world. uh whether they know that it's
beneficial for them or not, maybe this
will help in that effort.
>> Sounds like a plan.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> As of.
>> So, I think you could, you know, I I'll
think what what we can do is start off
just going through in a chronological
order. So
it's the first time I was here for they
have asked
>> yeah they asked not to take more than
one not to ask for anyone else.
So then I think that stopped the asking
for someone else
but they gave numbers and the thanked
the bad afterwards because of numbers it
came easier. There was numbers for lak.
>> Yeah, that year anyway
>> you got a ticket.
>> Yeah, a ticket with numbers. You say it
went easier because if you know what
number you are, you you're less
hesitant, you know, you go. So it it
made it made it faster for the Reb and
the Reb would always tilt before.
So the Reb would the the tray of cake
tray loads of trays would be inside the
room and for every person the Reb would
take a piece and give. They would look
take a piece
but each person they would look at them
turn into his room take the pieces you
know backwards and forwards
they claim this I heard once a sara that
person there was not like a a waiter a
server you know serving food but it was
a lot easier when later after so the
trays in front of the was just
>> giving from the tray
>> thing was like that
Yeah, it seemed like you know is not
giving you he's not a server giving
food. He's like
>> right
>> but it came easier.
>> So they had the train in front of the
>> train in front of the driver gives you
peace. It doesn't have to turn that much
and
>> so it went to a certain extent it went
faster.
So whatever you stood in line for and
you have the two sudas then you come
back to push for a catch a place for um
the braha to the bahim.
Okay. After the braha downstairs
>> after a braha to an
they say the didn't those years the reb
didn't like the microphone
this was years that it went like that to
the microphone should take it away
>> the whole thing changed because it used
to be
>> used to be me was the first time was ah
>> then became a and a regular
>> then became a long
I think
>> in the early would get on top of the
table. Yeah, that's a
>> pictures of it.
>> Yeah, there a video of
>> a table. Whatever. It's higher.
>> It went up onto something. Yeah, it
could be. I heard it there was a table,
but afterwards um
it became a me I think was a like over
an hour.
>> Yeah.
>> Ara like
people barely had time personally to go
run home and come back. You know, you
want to go to mikvah before again. It
was like then I remember the braha.
So um after the braha
so I mean they held the microphone at
the side and as the reb went to the side
of the standender and as he closed his
eyes see the braha then they put the
microphone close. who's holding it
whoever it was casin maybe was holding
it close to to on a stick so he doesn't
have to be close to the you know and uh
the tone is different tone of is
different than
I think they ever stressed that many
years
And right after that ran upstairs to Kul
catch a place for the braha
>> for the
>> for the bah. So I ran out and um I came
you know the time
said they're opening the door a certain
time. It was I think 15 minutes before
mention because they don't want too much
pushing. There's a whole other story.
I'm not going to get into that now.
There was years and there ever
complained that the Baham pushed for so
long that they they didn't have time to
eat.
>> Yeah. Because the bakim were waiting
saying amal was open and people were sit
there the whole day
>> and the rabbi was not happy about that
not eating but you know because they're
hopping a place. So they made a rule
that the doors locked
>> right. So the open up like 15 minutes
before
>> and that's the whole thing where
everyone stampedes into into the room.
Yeah,
>> because was another thing. So you
started use
when the kepper moved first it wasn't
there of his room for the first 10
years, nine years until it became
impossible in there. What happened was
the light switch went on and off.
So um the m disturbed the next year went
out to get in. there's more room
standing there and on the stairs
until moved into the
so it's like every 10 years they had to
make a change cuz it's impossible and I
just want to describe what's like when I
describe it going into the kipper
and uh people just coming in and coming
in and coming in and they took out all
the furniture the only piece of
furniture which was left was like two
tables or four tables
in um what do you call it soften side I
would say next to mascus where the reb
came in so they had the rubbish stander
on top of the tables to put a carpet on
top of it also and there would go up and
stand on the tables besides that it was
place is empty only the bimma which they
I think they couldn't take it out
>> has bimma
>> no not just the the bimma
>> it was stuck in the form
>> it was too big to go out of the door. I
don't think they could move it.
>> So, they put it near the second door,
you know, near the kazin. I think it was
there and guys would stand on there.
But besides that, there was uh empty
and there's like
six huge fans. I mean, the air
conditioner there was not strong enough
for such a three huge fans on both
sides. makes such a noise, but you need
it just to blow the air through and just
place is just filling up and filling up
and filling up and filling up. And I'm
short, so I'm trying to catch my hat cuz
my hand's like this and I catch my hat
and the place is getting fuller and
fuller and fuller
and I feel my hand is like squashing my
chest like it's hurting. I I felt like,
you know, the I don't know. I managed to
move with a drop. It's crazy. You know,
pushing pushing and pushing. It's not
pushing. It's just squashed. And the guy
right next to me, don't forget, he got
standing in lines. Wherever there's a a
centimeter of space, you know, there's
somebody there. And the guy right next
to me, his hands were down. And there's
no way he could pick his hands up. And,
you know, shvitzing this his glasses
just slid off. and they fell down. It
doesn't go onto the floor. It dropped
down over here. He says, "Do me a favor.
Could you put my glasses on?"
So, I'm like, you know, barely able to
move my hand. Then I pick up his
glasses. And managed to hook it onto
this ear, which is close to me, but I
can't reach the other ear.
I tried a few times and it's like in the
end, he said, "Forget about it." Hook
you do. There's nothing you can do. You
know, it's like
>> your hands are wherever they're locked.
you you could not pick your hands up
your eyes are squashed. I mean like no
moving. Then there became a sh never
came in. As soon as it ever came in they
unplugged all the fans cuz you wouldn't
be able to hear a word. So they
unplugged all the fans then it got hot
but it uh whatever the there wasn't able
to see anything but at least I'm in the
same room as you can hear. Yeah, I could
hear. I could hear.
I can't say I caught the braha because I
wasn't used to this type of pushing.
Takes a different type of concentration
to be able to listen even though there's
pushing. But the words are very
interesting. you listen over to the
recording afterwards
like the
was the first year the Reb allowed a
speaker. So they hid the microphone
under the stander. There was a speaker
in the hall and maybe in the start
started using the hatser
>> could hear something. I think the was
for the younger bakim. No
>> that started later then should be
>> so those years was every bak was
>> yeah that's why I was a young bak was 15
so the whole thing I was there
>> the whole thing that only the older
>> only after started
>> then they changed the sedime when I came
I was in the outside was disaster and
the the pushing there for an hour before
and even that doesn't help me because
I'm not good at pushing and I found
myself on the outskirts could not and
also there came out very
Tashim came out I don't know
maybe 10 uh I don't know 7 minutes 10
minutes after
they came out very late and the whoever
was inside they disconnected the
microphone because they thought it's
they thought you know it's going to be
already so there's no microphone there
spoke louder than usual they heard
there's no microphone no speaker and
there spoke louder than usual
I just heard in the I just heard hum of
Durb's voice all I remember at the end I
heard oh can you hear that then I heard
clearly besides I couldn't hear a word
but they recorded it
they say whoever held the
held the tape recorder so he said
whoever finished two and a half minutes
in forkia okay
rely on him tape came out so obviously
it was in forkia and there's a recording
but uh you hear crying in the middle of
one of the was screaming I don't know he
was on top of the roof the you know
didn't have but the beams were there
>> and he was on top of the beams and he
was like I don't know what happened some
screams so there was stopped in the
middle
>> middle of the
>> in middle of the
>> but um
is talking what's going to happen but
one of the things that came out from
then that they would block the suka also
no more than 15 minutes before lmanion
should have shouldn't have pushing like
that like there was
>> pushing for an hour it's crazy
>> before y
>> before kipper I mean you know
what different uh
for me the best was mdalat I was ready
from the age 22 and the kutza could be
in the back room. Sheni was the best.
They took out that window where the
swarm is are
and uh they put in all the benches from
the from the Z into the put planks of
wood on top of them. So you're standing
high was so high. I could see so well.
>> That's interesting. That's the best
place
>> for me that was the
>> unless your mom is in front.
>> Yeah, for me that was the best. So mama
should be able to see and the Reb came
in for some reason. And I don't know why
they put a a microphone
in front of the reb was like why you
putting a microphone there? I mean as
every went up the stairs and he came to
onto the table sees a microphone right
in front of the stem there and like
stopped and you know like made his
shoulders like what is this? There's a
video of it and immediately bakar came
out and
>> so what's the problem is yik
>> there wasn't yontik but it's um
for after mention
>> righth okay
>> so like so immediately baka jumped up
and pulled down the microphone but there
was another hidden microphone under the
standard I don't know what he was trying
to prove but whatever but there's a
recording but I'm saying you shouldn't
have done that put a microphone there
some years later I would pull the talis
over his face and some years just left
um
>> his talis on top just without putting it
down
but it always felt very special the
braha to the bahim the mahas to the
bahim in a way like uh
I don't think it was another yas during
the year to bahim like that okay later
is clawless that's to tell me them from
outside New York
helps in America. In the first year the
Reb said the Reb started it the premise
for doing it is the Reb said
so this is the that's basically what it
is
>> there's a very very special feeling from
that
and Kipper itself is very peaceful as a
calm you know especially the night of
Kipper the good name I
very calming
>> hel
because after the brah I didn't till I
got down and I didn't see much but
>> there was
which is kind of interesting thing it's
a separate story but I probably printed
once I don't know cuz a few days before
in kippa
the the Arabs went into um Mars Aino
they destroyed the place I think they
ripped up two and they were mish
and there I was very upset about it they
say this is written down with
gash jacobson when he went by the reb
on kipper there told him it's still
before see if you can get some more
details what happened over there
and it seemed to bother very much
continue talk about it both
um
whatever means
and then uh by day and braces but there
was a a whole hemsha but it began in
iniper the night of iniper so after ding
you see tm usually there would go out
afterm
stood maybe half hour after the finished
was the cousin for for tim but after he
finished he didn't go especially fast
but the reb seemed like he was going
very slow
half hour after the finished was still
saying tam
and uh
again the during kipper day there's not
much happening the didn't even have m on
on day
>> so by um so there's nothing much
happening during the day
is like the lowest key point of the
>> yeah no to be a whole day with it was
>> it's peaceful
and then did a few times
>> but after I mean I loved um
yeah
there would go
Yeah, there's a certain
>> so by this know there was a
certain house
>> that and wants to know what time is
keanu
>> you know
>> but it's a I love the way that
especially
then um then after the break or during
the break start hopping places for the
march because that was the the highlight
this time as the middle of the tam
and something happened with the kids I
don't know exactly what and the turned
and he asked the
asking
he misunderstood he thought that wants
everybody to leave the area of the so he
screams
and tell everybody to go away and then
they understood that the kids who were
there they wanted them to come onto
So a bunch of kids maybe there 30 40
kids exactly and they stood near the
wall. Now usually when the reban so he
bangs with his left hand on the stander
so the whole could see but here because
the kids are standing on the right so
with his left hand the rebanged on the
stander with the right hand he turned to
the kids I think it was heno but at sure
that they were made to them very
strongly with his hand to the kids they
should sing
and um at the end of um sim shalam after
sash
The reba asked the kazin to wait and the
reba asked to all kids under braitz who
were able to dav should come to his
place
started a whole and in the back I was
like more near the
so the message didn't get there exactly
heard
the start kids you know even before I
remember and on the table which is
blocking the island from pushing too
close to the bam standing on holding
kids and they have to send them back to
the parents because they're one of the
only kids who could dav.
>> Mhm.
>> And they're waited but they say that the
rebels then crying.
I heard in the name of Rab Groner he
never saw the crying like that like five
minutes sobbing
and uh one of the kids who was there
says uh he saw the crying like that. He
started crying. So there heard him
crying there looked at him and smiled
but um
and after all the kids gathered started
a V volcano
I mean I would say there wasn't that dry
eye in the sh it was like you could
sense something happening in volcano
again you know as years went on there
would say the sing of volcano by over
and over.
>> Mhm. was like uh by by the time was like
five times by the fifth time there was
throwing himself backwards and forwards
you know and the island was like
and after volcano right so then the
kadesh on the march
so the um so here because all the kids
are there so they were grown instead of
having the kids should push around the
reb from all sides. So you pull the
rebber stander all the way to the left.
So the kids are near the wall and but
only on one side of the reban. So you
know cuz it's
so the chair was right at the edge of
the bimma closest to the then stand
there. I didn't noticed this punct. So
somebody told me he said he put the
chair with the back of the chair to the
so that it went like this. He should
turn the chair the other way so the reb
should be able to get up on the chair.
>> Napoleon's march.
>> Yeah.
>> And he comes to Napoleon's march and
there goes like this his hand on the
stander. They should um start singing.
And then it was standing and there was
straightening his talis straightening
and straightening and straightening. He
looked to me like there was
it's hard for him to go up. I don't
know.
A long time it's just straightening his
tunnel. Straightening straightening.
Finally, the Reb put his left hand on
his right hand on the stander and
stepped up onto the chair and a little
bit the Reb
waved his hand backwards and forwards a
few times and then there went down. It's
like very short. Even though I'd never
been there before, it still sounded to
me like it was short. Lifier what I
heard from previous years was lot
longer.
>> Long. Yeah.
I mean the I remember later years
I don't know not sure what year they
started putting the stairs there. It's a
lot safer for the Reb.
They put the stairs I think mealant.
Anyway, the Reb went up on the
one of the stairs. I just remember that
sear there was most of there was the
talis was covering their face completely
and there would clap like almost from
inside the talis there was a mic
electricity in the air you know it's
like the the island was like the march
was unbelievable
and he said this time was short and I'm
not getting to but
no we're getting there now so then this
matim
and there was a you know three times
>> I think it was almost always was
>> and the last few years was um
>> by the way was the only time that the
made people fast a little longer
>> because of this thing with the kids
>> otherwise there was very mak they say
the the reb would have a watch on his
stander
>> right
>> so he shouldn't go over the time
>> and um no the the later years it was um
Reb started singing his father's name
>> father's name
>> and also and also the reb would come
into with his hat
right
>> yeah most times even though I heard that
me I wasn't there I was by I heard that
me hey the actually walked into me with
a talis not with a hat so right after I
reached his place asteroa
Um
the flapper they were call flapper
>> flapper. Yeah.
>> So he said so he said yes I guess he was
thinking
>> they would always say they even say some
was having heart attack.
So there was can't they bring the
vehicle yet
always
>> and then the would um the would take the
hat off and put in the in the drawer and
stand there and take it off.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> There's different there's differences
from the year when they would put on his
hat.
>> Some years they take it off till after
the till after
>> and later years started putting on early
sometimes even by cave ready put on the
hat. Um and the thing that writes in
this
would come into and he writes schlapp
remember correct and if I remember
correctly this to come with the recorded
by the with that word schlapp
but it's interesting in the spoke about
it one of the sudas also that the a year
which I guess there was especially
meticulous in writing down the fre on
hagus says from
his talis was not on top of his head. So
even though in Zmani his ears people
cover the put the talis on the head here
the freak didn't the says I didn't know
if there's a meaning for barabim or not
so I didn't write it in hug him but
nevertheless it's a
>> right
>> then the reb will go upstairs and be
kana
>> what be kesana
>> yeah was outside there is there's a
picture actually wrote on
Um
smiling. I don't know exactly what
happened. And the Reb wrote in the back
of the picture.
>> That's the one from down
>> could be
>> that the angle is from down.
>> Yeah, maybe was smiling because of his
angle. I don't
>> Yeah, there's a story about it.
>> I don't know what's
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So, we're move. So, now we have uh the
>> which is everyone's
is only the first day,
>> right?
Um
again before
meas those days were quite unevent
uneventful I would say
um
>> before oh you see because the
>> when the changed and
>> you didn't see the changed didn't see
the too much
>> so now we get
>> never came up
>> okay so now we get to the highlight of
>> at least in my view
>> but I want to go over uh whatever The
first time I came to the Reb was day
after.
>> Mhm.
>> It seems like the Reb started on Yuan
Haga. The day after Yam
they were started to go to the oil.
So the day after every Y
>> every Y
besides Rashana because it's didn't go
on a fast day
but um day after in Kipper there went to
Lav. So I remember when I came to some
so they said actually somebody picked us
up from the airport and said then the
already done was in the aisle already
went home so we're not going to see the
reb that night.
So the first time I saw the base
but uh and there went
also and from then on I think all the
years from the would go through.
So um
um I just described the I described it
in the the forerunner for the
>> the
original
my first 24 hours by the reb was like
whatever it's interesting I think I
think it's archived you can get online I
think anyway
seeing the first time my father admitted
to me when the rebba came into he was
looking at me not not at the he wanted
to my reaction.
But uh funny thing is I'd never seen a
video then a film of the Reba before I
came to the Reba first.
So I'd never seen they were walking or
anything. I saw pictures but I never
seen a
video.
So I see they're walking in downstairs.
It's tishary. So all the would be
downstairs besides
from Zimatra also started to be
downstairs during t you know the big
island
it wasn't hard to ask the rabban says
that I noticed through the years cuz I
remember one time a bus of tourists came
half the bus was boys half bus was girls
I don't think they were from but they
asked those girls in the in the bus So
the rebound downstairs even though it's
quite empty but it wasn't hard to ask
the reb to down downstairs was an excuse
down downstairs
even you know hey did I not down cuz I'm
big island
anyway um so the downb came into
remember seeing there for the first time
I would say it looked different than I
ever saw the reba before though after
that I mean before I didn't see after
it His face seemed like glowing. It was
like I don't know it's different look
and there goes this place but some gle
during ashri not sure when that stopped
I think after me
>> I discussed this on a different podcast
with someone I don't think we came up
with an explanation but had this hug
>> yeah put on the show and then later the
snapped that
>> and to come in with a on
>> then only
and Um,
okay. I'm going to cut out a few
details.
I have to go through every single
detail. They're just seeing seeing the
right after Mina River turns around
and goes over to Ardesh touches the
paras
and freighten led the photographer was
there. That was his first year.
First year's official uh photographer.
>> Mhm. So the asba saw him standing there
next to give him a beautiful smile and I
see you know I have to learn the han I
see the smiles everybody smiles and
there walked there was going and
somewhere near the bimma in the middle
of the shul suddenly stops stopped
everybody ran over there by the time I
got over there the was already out of
the sh but the reb asked then bakar
who's taking pictures
let's go in tanya height how much tany
I mean when I went over there I heard
him tell you asked me if you know this
is an English guy you want like another
>> no American bak eight years later spoke
about it
I asked him if he learned so
photograph
same
>> maybe I don't remember that one.
>> No, but this this was like
did this a few times.
>> Yeah, but this was like about
>> it's referring to that time. It's eight
years later speaks about it.
>> There's a video walks in.
>> Yeah.
>> Straight over the summer time.
>> Yeah. That morning. Yeah.
>> Yeah. The morning.
What's interesting there ask the person
who's holding the f the camera not the
one who's holding the video.
>> Interesting.
>> Personally I feel that video
you have more to learn. One of the
things never says you took a picture
yesterday took a picture day before why
you taking a picture again. What are you
going to get from it? So don't hog which
people um they write down they saw such
an hog a different hugger but what do
you get from just taking a picture
again? That's what there was. So I don't
know my own boy when it comes to videos
there was not so against it because a
video does have a
>> you know that there's something more you
could learn from
>> and I'm thinking about them theorizing
about this more there was opposition
from the for pictures and
was told
but video
>> so there are mentions in that about
>> right video later when uh and Krinsky
went to start the videos. I mean and was
doing the videos in I think liked it
>> even though in that also there was
satellite.
>> Mhm.
>> Didn't say the didn't say it in a
positive way.
>> Mhm. I remember one of Hild Krinsky I
think it was you know the one who
started gem and he was like uh or maybe
it was Freedman one of them anyway one
of the family was saying uh the first
time there mentions a satellite wasn't
positive
>> publicly yeah
>> yeah so like
anyway so I was just saying that this
what happened that first I mean I was
there that night there was between and
it's the last time was that at
So my father asks I'm a client are you
going to
so says you just came you already wanted
to go to but later later years I found
out it was an
>> before and afterwards
>> no no be first you hear and then you go
to
even the first the bakim who came before
and they wanted to go to as soon as they
arrived and the freed said after shabas
They were wondering and
Robbie Simpson then he explained he said
now we don't hear we don't hear the
Indian shout first come this and then
you so maybe that was the Indian didn't
have this that year because our ticket
was the day after is there was no way we
could change it so um we're talking and
uh and um my father's asking for the was
nothing to
already there was already my he's going
to the
so I didn't have but the point because
of that my father sent me the next year
for so I was another
>> because you didn't have
>> because I didn't have then so
>> I came the next year so I had
>> just by yourself
>> yeah I mean yeah I went to room by
myself I was twice
and
very short but
Um
what are we up to? So um
so that night was
so I remember the discussing if the
um usually afterb come at 1:00 in those
years but because to go to the because
it's so come at 12:00 and they were
right. I already told you before about
the the gl so I'm not going to repeat
>> but me b me b me b me b me b me b me b
me b me b me b mentioning gl I'm not
going to repeat it again
>> and that night was came back from
we came back from
so the downstairs till the end of there
would always be a break between even
though was late was after but
nevertheless there was always a break
between
after
mandal mandala did that change and they
started having together
and even shabas by faban if it was late
also m together that's a new han started
el mal
so after mad went upstairs to his room
and there was media that may be I think
9:15 whatever and then a courts of faban
usually a courts of fabangan meant 2
hours bar two, two and a half,
excuse me. Um,
so comes in
and uh I told you already before about
when I said first time. Okay. Anyway,
first timer
said that he wants all to go to um
especially to show that in the world. So
arim should go and beus
so to show that wherever he is he's
comfortable he's so especially should go
to all the different places it's a big
then going to
>> be the other place
stood up by then they were giving out
dollars
it's the first time getting dollars from
the reba I mean kissed
So I went over
by the time I went over
in the early years of dollars by
Fabangan it would still be in the middle
of Fangan and the Tristan would go
around and give dollars it was hard
to climb over the people and especially
I wasn't used to it when I came to the
gave me a pack of dollars but as soon as
I went off somebody says to me everybody
has dollars already take for yourself
and uh give me the rest I'll give back
to Mosc curious cuz especially there
were loads of takist.
>> Mhm.
>> And I tried to squeeze back inside and
it was a interesting um
and the said to a few to whistle
remember
is next to me and he's whistling. I
think the sent two one after another to
whistle by the third nan he's still
whistling. He has his eyes closed and
he's whistling with all his kayak and
looked at him and smiled.
He was like in a different world.
Anyway, the end said um like sing going
out of gus
started and stood up and made
a very wasn't very unusual in those
years but it was still an interesting uh
thing.
That's already the night before sukus
and sukus used to be a peaceful yont
once upon a time before it was
the only real night was the second night
sukus. Besides that it was um
>> why the second night? Second night is
always for it was a moment thing
officially. The second night of sukas is
because in migrants.
So the second night was always loads of
herangas. Remember
the
was a big always a big fang. The house
where I was staying remember was uncle.
So he used to come to that suka always
for ring
and um anyway. So um I remember just uh
the second night every time most times
when there came in that sukas they were
saying
and there came in there on the way to
his place and start my or it was second
night sukus they were singing
and there comes to his place or puts
down the turns around him start clapping
turn around to the was like wow it's
like a really exciting it's very unusual
that a regular
did like that
but did that every
that was they say because of what
happened afterwards and there wasn't
with
that was unusual but even also there
and um
I'm going to remind myself now but
and there's every
especially before mar
so one of the tong
and there comes in it's you look the
video it's on the tishary video of it
which gem came out gave out the black
and white one there's a fraen video but
it's not that good the black and white
one push focuses on the you see the is
seriously happy it's like hard to
explain it's serious for
>> that's the
particular thing I mean that looks like
what the Reb looked like on some
that the Reb's shoulder slightly as he's
clapping and and as turns around Nigan's
over and Hakus used to be the same way
soon as turns around then Ligan's over.
Hak is over.
>> General is
>> Yeah.
>> They say one of the not sure why
>> they say one of the gimmel maybe early
lads. So there was upstairs
came into
and seeing Allahb got up on his chair
and for 10 15 minutes. They say whoever
was there will not forget it. People
saying ah I missed it. I was there or
there, but everybody remembers that.
>> I think it has something to do with the
the with the niggan.
>> I don't know. I'm saying
>> I mean you could say a bunch of that
really liked like
>> also it also works very well musically.
>> I don't know like I use
>> I thought about it over the years like
what's what's this thing?
>> I wouldn't know why but anyway that's
but there's a bunch of liked.
Also is one of the nugim that um Mavich
sing it by hakafus one of the
>> mhmala
um
shin
where's the others not too many more the
hakas but that was change the sometimes
that changed it especially when he
danced by himself in the later years
um but general Generally I say sukus is
a peaceful yont I'm not going to go into
the second night ladv was a strange
thing it ped from the second night of
sukus it poured until
pa almost did not stop raining I don't
remember a single meal we were able to
eat was like run in with your coat and
eat fast and go out it was pouring the
whole time and it's settled from the
it's printed
>> that
somebody asked how can you have the name
of sim If you if you um was such a mat
of raining and it says in the Mishna
said you're ready
also they say even though it's raining
say
it was pouring came in said loud so
should hear you say even though it's
raining also
said inside right
>> so there in the settle the says since
you're ready
that day so it can't be that the doesn't
accept your sitting in the
exact
it's the discussing it's hard to
understand this because we do continue
to also whatever it's
>> I think that year they did they didn't
they didn't eat but Yeah, whatever
inside
>> actually hasha knight
>> I think someone was describing a menal
and he was heard his head out I heard
about that
>> night
so after till
announces because the sent over somebody
suggest here so I wasn't there you know
my friend I was a young boy my father
took me home to sleep I have to tell him
but the guys went into the suka bring
it's pouring and they say before the
went home they would go home would go
home by shak
so the looked inside the suka and saw
ranging and the said agra
>> mhm
>> anyway so it was raining so much the
sherba the reb gave out lak next to his
room
>> and not in the suka
>> so I got lak next There was room. So
it's the only year that happened was
push pouring
>> the later years it happened
>> on
>> I think no wasn't that the room
>> don't think I mean I know you have to
check out
>> okay
>> but usually usually we came up with this
okay
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>> I just want to mention one more thing I
thought it was interesting um
second day sukus
so the first they use a little of anarch
and um the reb would always stand and
wait until does their hakafa
and then they would start continuing to
So the Reb would first go make
every behind the Reb but there would
stand and wait every single day they
would always look
all the years. So we're standing it's
waiting the khazen he didn't know or
whatever the reason was he screams
landas the meaning is that you put back
the cifera
and as you put him back scream the
khazan screams landas and everybody else
repeats the pock
and here he scream mandas and there's
this big in his hand that returns to him
like what are you doing
so that was uh when the island finished
going around the bimma so the himself as
He turns turns around there started
himself she
like uh unusual
anyway uh you see okay let's get some
as I said Sukus was um
peaceful then till
and
I remember um
uh
And Jacobs called me up the first time
and said describe was the end of the
maybe not so much the end
if I describe tish for no problem I'll
describe tish I'm speaking about
comes to susta
he's interviewing me on the phone I said
I can't describe he left me alone the
next year he calls me again he says you
have to help me nobody wants wants to
talk about some everybody asked. They
all say we can't describe
I said you know I'll try as much as I
can but it's indescribable.
So I I usually give the three
and I say very
brings down
explaining the
they said the first time he was
alter used to do hakus first by himself
the
family and then he would come out to the
whole so the hakus the alter himself
said the whole
he was kaz like for the whole and he was
kazen for every hakafa
repres
I started to have a little understanding
what a yid must have felt felt like when
he went to migdash
the first time I had such a
understanding
that's one one Indian another Indian
I'll tell you like this there's say kar
had a
whatever about
had a dream who had already passed away
came to him in the dream. So who's in
this world says how is it up there? He
says very good
to a shabas.
So wakes up he's wondering what do you
mean?
He thought to himself like this. It says
Shabas is
so by every person Shabas is of his but
when you come to
he invites you to his shabas his
is more than your whole
>> I was thinking the same thing. The Reb
invited us into his
and that's probably maybe whatever the
reason why you can't describe it. You
push it you felt like you're in a
different there's certain times where
people tell you that or even the moment
you're getting a dollar from the Reb
you suddenly in a different dimension
time has a different meaning over there
everything has a different meaning. So
by the rabbi has this the rabbi invited
us into his his
now they printed in I think it was a
book called
whatever not
articles just articles from people about
the I don't have the book but I saw in
that article somebody writes like this
an Israeli um
you know
>> reporter
>> reporter so he writes like
For years I've been hearing that you
can't describe.
Now I'm a reporter. My job is to
describe things until one year I decided
I have to go there just to describe.
But what should I tell you? He says he's
writing this in his article. He said,
"What should I tell you?" The first time
I see something you cannot describe.
What should I tell you? The describe the
bleachers of the bakim up to the ceiling
jumping up and down. shall describe to
you the tuatis of thebigan.
None none of this will give you the the
atmosphere the the the a which there is
you can't
he said first time my life I see
something you cannot describe and I'll
tell you something else when I was on
to come
he's uh he tells him for whatever reason
it was one year he was here
says
he said when he saw
He says and he asked surely how could I
prevent my son from experiencing the
same the same experience he says he
traveled specially to the rebba another
time I figured that was sim whatever I
traveled to the reba specially just to
give my son the opportunity to be by the
rebus
I don't know it's a kite whatever but
I'm standing feeling
>> it was amazing just to hear that from
him and after saying that you can start
explain describe whatever you can
describe you can't you can't describe
I'd say most years you know before the
comes in the night of
I mean it's all the same
they go into different differences
basically um my would be at 7 7:30
would start at 9:30 :30
after started at 9:00. Same thing with
they try to make things a little easier
to make the half hour earlier. But in
general, I'm describing they're coming
into which is more than
so a lot of the years that I remember
was 10 years
in the later years. So generally it's
saying um
Uh yeah.
So there be a circle people dancing.
Once it got full there is no room to
dance and people you know singing on the
place and the comes in and they make a
shill for the come through and there is
mid comes in a sther everybody I've
spoken to says the same thing you know
usually comes with a sther puts down
there but everybody remembers
puts down his sid with both hands
to no end. And then the Reba turns
around. Hey yeah. And suddenly the whole
770 is like one sticktick. It's not
separate people anymore. Everybody
controlled by the Reb's hands by the
Reb's movements and everyone's together.
It was amazing feeling just all
together.
And then there was I mean uh
there was scream ataresa the recording
there is from mashik from the is nothing
compared to that.
>> Well now we have another recording.
Yeah, it's I don't know if it's I'm sure
it's not Loratson. I don't know should
be mentioned in public or not but the
the the way the reb
that you could hear the reb over most of
the sh there was screamed so loud I
remember people even saying I wasn't
here but the people saying the way the
reb in the beginning was screamed ata
also allares
is loud comes to it's like way
And then after each
night and dayb say the karata three
times that's a letter from rash to the
rebba asking the rebba to continue
saying theata.
>> Oh so that the letters to continue it.
>> Yeah that's if I remember correctly.
>> I thought I thought I remember that it
was like okay interesting.
>> I thought I thought his accent there
were to continue.
>> Okay.
They say people have been saying that
they used to add a
ho there itself sometimes. Yeah.
Sometimes not
on hakl.
>> Yeah.
>> But then they figured out was only one
time that they added on hakl
>> right.
>> So maybe the other times because of the
interesting um
they printed um they printed hakafus you
know to everybody should have copies.
They put that in.
>> They put it in didn't say it. I remember
did not say it.
>> Anyway, then to go to the first
and they would go to go to the middle.
Whoever was close by would wishbain
reason people would say that. So the reb
should say gamatim.
One time by day they lose.
>> It can be for the debas for yourself.
We're all uh we want to cash in as many
brahas as we can.
>> Yeah.
>> So, one year I actually kissed the
safety while there. I was holding it by
day. By day was less people.
>> So, there day was less people and by
night.
>> By night was like
remember the first time I was there
trying to catch a place I got the most
dangerous place in uh Latv was between
the Russians and the Frenchies.
was a little closer to the Russians
in the middle of night sh also in the
middle of the no one of the
I blinked I'm telling you one second
they were there 200 300 guys just
one second they're there next second
they're not there all jumped down again
they landed on top of one baker had to
give them oxygen before lad they used to
be near uh in the middle where they're
with dance two huge bottles of oxygen
the green you know whatever you call
them
>> metal yeah labelki standing next to them
like they have to give them oxygen this
bah was like and they see one bakar
standing there the ventures are empty
you know suddenly they all clear cleared
out went to the hakafa and they see one
bach minus his hat minus his jacket
minus one shoe he bends down picks up
two titets is also a business pocket.
They were wild, those guys.
Anyway,
the Russians had from one of the beams
on the window of the vibes inside. So,
he had a rope. So, the last guy cuz it's
a drop. So, he had a rope there to hold
on to
the equipment.
>> Everybody had their own at those years.
I don't know why they would block the
Kingston vibes. So if there's any ladies
in there, they couldn't see a thing,
but I was on top. I had my sweater on
because the air condition was blowing
right onto me. So I turned it, you know,
the flaps should blow somewhere else. So
I said, "What are you doing everybody?
Don't close it there." So I'm not
closing. I'm just turning it like
freezing. That was good. I mean
night
number 12 comes in who was quiet and
turns around
and then remember the roar of the crowd
like
began
um what should I say
before
hakafus I don't know I was there for the
first time
my father whenever I sat down with my
father on first table opposite the
Reb came we didn't go to I didn't even I
don't know if I knew about it or not
doesn't make a difference I was there
it's the only time I saw the kdesh by
night
came in he made kesh so I suddenly
realized I see the like sitting or
holding the kis and suddenly I see the
going lower so I guess the was like sort
of on his knees He wasn't sitting.
>> He didn't want to stand. No, the whole
>> kesh.
>> He didn't want to make the whole stand.
>> You thought that was sitting.
>> I thought he was sitting. So you see
they were going lower.
>> Kdesh
very afraid
explain.
And um in middle of fabangan the reb
says to
honor all you did. I mean
uh in middle of fabang the reb says
uh should sing a niggan of medina with
words from Medadina.
So they started singing from seven you
know marching out there didn't move as
if they're not singing. So they realized
doesn't want that again.
So the quiet I guess the discussing what
niggan is saying. So there looks to
barrel zman.
So he sung a song. I don't know the
words for sure though. No he sung in
Russian
and there was a little bit and after he
finished singing in Russian they have to
sing something in English.
So there was no from the mis finally I
started singing just one tiger just one
sh just one we sing I knew the words
from a different song from England I
didn't know the tune it's American tune
Yankee doodle
>> okay
>> I I didn't know the song and so uh I'm
trying to catch the tune as opposite me
is old old on the other side of the
table zing zing I'm saying the word I
don't know the I knew the words I didn't
know the name was clapping was wow
mishap
and then
um
said to sing a song in French a French
song with French words
was the always used to show him to
whistle
>> so to him he had a huge hat then he was
like sort of a leader of a group of uh
Frenchies next to him on the reb's right
there looked at him they sung the
national anthem with an extra piece
which I hadn't heard before. It wasn't
in the
right
>> they added it later.
So they saying that they saying the
>> sung the whole anthem with French words
and there was there was like that
then there was zing of mama
the but not as much as the first not as
much as the English one.
>> The English one.
>> Yeah. Not as much as the English one.
Well, there was my then says
of
his aim.
So I figured there
before he said mama
is aim.
So the mother of all languages. So they
sang a mip
to his head and it came the end of
Habraan. So you have to announce that
everybody should leave the should leave
the sh to be able to set up for hakus.
>> At that time was no kdes yet. I think
that started mandala and something like
that
camel maybe
>> the kdish after
>> kdesh between fabangan and
>> office which still does it till today
you know.
>> Oh.
>> Yeah.
So um anyway the so he got up the old
taleski to announce I guess it's a a
tradition in Labavich before you make an
announcement sha
I don't know exactly what happened at
that moment I didn't notice but I see
label grown tell him to get up onto the
table like he's okay he got up on the
table he starts again
says
he starts again says
>> say three times.
>> Okay.
>> Just like he was the cousin for always.
Say
the call say three time each time this
is a raise your voice really
sh
and the reb is smiling the whole time.
So while all this is going on there was
beautiful smile then he announced every
go and then there was the only time I
heard the sing this is no recording but
today
hey left it's the only time I ever heard
that I was singing this without words
just
>> you heard that I was singing it
>> I heard they were singing it without
without words
>> they sing in front of in front of the
>> yeah those times here they heard the reb
sing it himself
and that there became tacus
hakus
I mean good I get into some of them but
one of the uh
um
okay at the end of
so instead of the going out the way came
in from the sides of the tables there
went in the middle of the tables towards
the where he danced. So he comes to end
there's a table in the way which seem
there would do that every year until
ladas.
So I I don't know I was dreamed for a
second and one of my friends says look
look and I see the like climbing up onto
the table seemingly the reb pulled a box
from under the table stood on the box
stood on the table. So some of the
tables are quite high but stepped up
onto the table and as the Rebbit jumped
down and as he jumped down they went
like this.
So they I don't know what it was but
>> it was blocking the rabbit
>> the table cuz the Reb walked to the
middle so the table was blocking the
>> Yeah.
>> So the stepped up they say other years
the Rebel like swung himself over but
the box stood on the table and jumped
off. But I remember as he's jumping off
that went like that and then they have
to slurp the beam and label
over the table.
Whatever.
Anyway, that was llama 12.
Um
I noticed something interesting lad
during the day fbrangan
and um it's long fang they're wash
around 7 7:30 something like that and uh
I remember 25 to 1 cuz I was standing
behind there but then came a little
later so I didn't have a place I stood
behind and so I seen the clock the whole
time like 25 to one bar there started
the mimemer
It was like it's a long fang six hour
fang in the middle of fang was fre was
um one year there his name is uh is
from
they say he was very very active in ms
film
so the told him see quite a number of
times at one point I see the rebba I
don't know how the cup got to the reba
plastic cup the opens the water the
picture of water which was for the Reb.
The Reb poured a little bit of water
inside the cup and the Reb handed it to
label fill up with wine
and
he gave it to Label handed it to
I guess this was the last cup.
He was quite uh whatever. So he stands
up
and there with a big smile like sit
down. It was like it's very uh
it's a middle of I noticed something
there again I don't want to be but there
was a whole mess that Rabbi Sudak once
told us against me of um
how the the reb once sort of explained
that the rabbain come to the
>> no no in general in general
if you could look it up and uh he said
then they realized the first time there
was straighten his tie would raise
himself up they realized and the ra are
coming so having heard that here I see
something interesting like at one point
the reb is like clapping
middle goes very fast
it's like almost you should notice like
a half a minute or minute later there
was
raises himself up high I mean I saw many
times passing from one side to the other
he didn't raise himself up
>> but here like half a minute after he
straighten his tie they raised himself
up so it tells you something
>> different and like that
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say there are different every year has
its own
first time there was a in middle of
then like I mentioned before the Indian
of the was going on
so um before
I think it is
so the reb turned around to cats who was
announcing the who should go to office
so the looked towards him started saying
something it looked like they wanted to
give him an instruction They
became quiet but started a sika instead.
They never stepped forward and started
saying the
whole was leaning on a stander
and here stepped forward.
Basically the said all should go to the
hakaf
to show that belongs to belongs to us
belongs to belongs to Eden
in a sense I would say when my friends
were saying it looked like the was
paying back for what he didn't do by the
march there was the march was so short
he there was like he did
mom but the biggest surprise was after
the finished the
took his sitter there started saying the
so high pitched I don't know how they're
able to reach so high
so high like mommy very very high scream
lips
and there was saying lips quietly you
know the small
and some people started to sing and some
people shy you know So as soon as I
finished the mara
and started singing it so much there was
actually a not a beard right in front of
and he was going to the like this the
whole time with his hand. So they're
made to him also very strong a lot but
it was very strong hakafa
again even though it was a before
before hakus but in the middle hakus
again before.
So again the start of the this time the
said that all those who are
um when the army the
all different types of mishari maybe all
those are different types of the Israeli
army should all go to the hakafa
then the reb said again
in other words he was kaz for that
hakafa but the reb didn't go to the
middle was on his ding is they didn't
know what niggan to sing. After the
rebuk
started singing
um
wasn't here
whatever I mean
was I think they were the special ones
I think your hakama
I think your hakama was very important
give the context
>> yeah
Um I should I say mandalad
was a very interesting um
night and usually
is like a little contained is not all
the way as big as usual
night
there was like so
and such
there was almost bent over double ah
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His hands stretched
out for his bending and his hand
stretched all the way forward like
so afraid of the the hakus. And the next
night the Reb spoke about it and the Reb
said that
with um
with the Alter when when there was a Mus
who should win the war.
>> Yeah. the altar if um Napoleon or or um
>> and uh it was the sign of Shine whoever
blows Kas first and they told the story
didn't say the name who was the other
just wanted to stress he was a person a
person so it's
says like stressing and he says um so
the other this he told his people right
away to get there they're D fast. And
when he got to Schaefer, he picked the
in his hand and he said, I remember
there was saying this like loud, I got
like he did it first.
>> Did it already? It was called and he he
blew for what did I say? The the should
be before Ding just like Lulv is before
Ding. Then later you take it in Ding
again. So same thing should be right the
way in. Then you blow again in but they
stopped there was tak because um the
Romans or whoever it was was getting
nervous.
>> I think I
was reading I think it says you're not
supposed to do it that early.
>> Not supposed to do that. Wait. Okay. The
main reason
>> right
whatever you do it later. Yeah.
>> Yeah. But the main reason is the said
not to because the the were afraid
of making an uprising.
>> Right. But once you do it in the middle
of domining, you see it's part of a
ceremony. It's not a an uprising. It's
not a rebellion. Anyway, that was the
main reason. But Sal went back to the
original thing and he blew first. So you
see from this says there but sometimes
you have to be
before the actual time. So here we will
mock them before the actual time of the
so
the end of this says because in the time
before hakus so every yeid is able to to
bench another yeid so everyone should
bench and then at the end
says
to to be um
to to
said's
And then he said and
said didn't say Hashem's name
said
the next day explain why he didn't say
the whole was only
said has to do more
of that benches everybody
it was after between hakus between and
coffus everybody's going around benching
each other it was like and this kiddish
outside you know everybody's eating
there but people going to each other and
everybody's benching benching each other
was at se
I mean they were just benching they were
hugging each other also
>> it was like that's one thing
>> it's an interesting thing that I'm
noticing from your te
And everyone talks about the rabba but
but I two things you mentioned I mean
the story of the and also the way you
started that everyone felt like one
>> so it's like the type of the feeling of
brought out you know the
like it's it's
altogether
had this feeling which is
Yeah.
>> You're saying a mif that you saw?
>> I saw a mus. It was the night of
>> and uh it was before around
you know the the the reb would be moved
out
>> for place. There was two benches in
there
>> and I saw somebody suddenly scream
from the river wasn't there yet. So the
the space for the skin was in the front
on Miz.
>> Um no um the right side say Dam.
>> Mhm.
>> And it's called
the we labor of the head of T he was um
cuz he had something maybe a heart
attack whatever it was something
something was going on.
I remember as they were taking him out
to the kids all came and they took him
on a stretcher and as he passed by them
I was standing like
towards the front of the sh o I would
say opposite I was ding in a sense to
the left side of ardesh but near the
first beam so came out opposite
I mean as as they took him out and I see
Robert Lio's face he was on the
stretcher face is white like a what
should I say like a white tablecloth
like a white shirt is white get oxygen
on you know anyway next part I didn't
see obviously but they say that they
took him into the ambulance and they
deba that he's not well and they have to
take him to the hospital said don't take
him to hospital because I won't be able
to take care of him leave him here
should be by every dinging every office
everything that night they didn't see
him I don't think he they brought him to
office that
But from the next day, Davening Fabangan
everything he was there by the Fabangan
before hakus they pushed aside two
benches where the scaling would sit
behind the reba and he was on there on a
wheelchair behind the rebus.
He's on the reb on a wheelchair. Now the
reba would be I say wasn't packed. It
was full of people. know anybody who
felt he had a excuse to be there would
be on the rabb's bimma they would bend
down so not to block everyone it' be
full like whatever and he's on a
wheelchair
a little past the not to block the is on
a wheelchair in the middle one of the
nigunim
and I see there was like looking through
the people catch his eyes and there
starts clapping towards him and suddenly
he was likewah
is his hands were hanging over the edges
of the of the arms of the wheelchair,
you know, it's like on his face is white
and there was looking forward to
there was like clapping towards him and
somebody pokes him like look there was
looking at you. So he looks up and there
was no so he starts clapping. I remember
my eyes popping out. I see part of his
face which is white start to get red. He
starts to come back to himself.
A day after I saw him walking around
very saw this with your own eyes.
>> Yeah, I saw only I'd say the only time I
saw a mifus with my own eyes.
I like there was making in front of
everybody.
Most people I talk to don't remember it.
>> Yeah, I never had this.
>> There's if you look in there's a of
>> Yeah, sorry. And they don't have the
whole story. They just mention that he
was seen reference asked about him.
Yeah,
there was one thing. Anyway, um
hey
M is actually first time I saw the
showing to whistle on Yamiff.
There was somebody the whole coffers was
whistling on the
on the left side of our you know
>> it happened before
>> the bleachers. See, so the first time I
saw the rabb
>> but here at the end after it was after
lane already mish the end I said yet
they returned to the wall they were show
to whistle that was like on yontiff. I
remember I was talking to somebody on
the phone after I told him they were
said to whistle said wow because in this
famous
says not
>> so here it's said there to whistling
okay it's
so big the same thing as clapping
>> yeah I don't know it happened even more
than that based there was one time they
were said to whistle on chabas
bigish
I wasn't here then.
Anyway, um
I was there told turned over the cup.
There was also a mid scene middle of a
coffus and that's also the mishb of the
farim was like looming in the background
you know
>> I can't say you mish thinking of it the
whole time but in the middle of the
middle of fangan
there suddenly turned over his cup
I can't say mish noticed somebody told
me he saw the reb going like that to
take out every drop but the ever turned
over the cup and the starts showing to
both sides like what does
They say Khan was the first to and he
turned over whatever was next to him.
Then the Reb said something about to
empty the ca not to pour out, not to
waste it.
>> Then there's the the matson afterwards.
>> Yeah. But then the Reb um
the Reb held the mama for like an hour
everything. And I think also they sung
and there were there was holding the in
his hand
>> upside down
>> upside down and there was waving the
making there was explaining there was
what's in a cup upside down. So just
like on the the
puts all the cups upside down what's
upside down just like the windows.
So it's the light goes from outside.
It's the same way the hashb comes from
the bish to everywhere. That's why the
cups upside down. So is the Indian of
holding a cup upside down. Was like next
to me. Sh is next to me as said he goes
wow like what a beer explanation.
I remember in the middle I'm I'm stay on
my place where was more on to the Reb's
left
closer to the back of the sh and I see
on the bleacher on the the other side
the arm side I suddenly happened to
notice
a kid the bak whatever maybe he's 15
years old something 15 16 around that
age stop
he's he's holding a cup with something
in the nashka wine inside his
standing and holding and smiling from
the situation and I think to myself,
you're supposed to turn your cup over.
What are you doing? There's no way I can
get a message to him. The split second I
thought that there were like turned to
him like an emergency
showing his cup showing the showing his
bakar to him like supposed to be upside
down and the bak
by the way from where I'm standing I'm
standing on top of a high bench that
there was no mus by um before hakus was
especially there was no musk
and uh I saw from down there people are
bringing in bottles and bottles
I figure they said to empty the bottles.
It's maybe like off whatever. I saw
bottles all different kind of whiskey
and drum buui and bent tea and s like
bottles flying in.
>> So there wasn't a lot of uh drinking
>> generally not from the you know cuz you
want to see you want to know what's
going on.
>> Yeah. But here I think it was a little
more because
>> Samus was quite I say the I mean they
always was always fail but
meas
was the last time I was here some
there's nothing like me
>> everybody talks about
>> everybody one of my wife's uncles tanam
film al tanam he said to me, I remember
hakafas from tshin dal. I said I
remember the old years there never was
hakafas like never. I mean it's
remembering enough from dalot never was
like some say that the reb I couldn't
notice from where I was standing. Some
say they brought down an old kapat which
the threads were coming out like ready
for work. All I remember is the first
night but I don't remember too much of
the first night but the um Rashag was
complaining is was cold
always gave him the second
so this I was told later he was like
whatever uncomfortable aspic what does
he want
go upstairs I remember they're taking
him out during a niggan between races
And I felt bad for him as they're
slapping him out and the reb starts to
be the the crowd was going like wow.
And um
and this is the first time usually a
would be five, seven minutes.
Every was 10 15 minutes. The could not
keep up with the person felt it. There
was no kas and there was eyes were
burning. He was like looking to
everybody and like slapping out of you
the kas which you never knew you had.
It's like it was
it's unexplainable.
Now the place where I was standing in
later years I couldn't see the when he
danced in the middle and most I'd seen
the a few times dancing with Rashad.
Rashad he did have kayak later years you
know dance for a minute.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I read in one of the Z that
the Reb basically cut it short.
>> The Reb cut it short.
>> Yeah, it says like the like
>> the didn't want to be m whatever. It was
hard for it was very hard very hard for
him
>> and even the first time I remember I saw
Lamat Vavv his Rashag is dancing his
face is white and like almost like
catching his breath you know
>> actually I heard from Rabbi Sodak he
said joining Kipper war they um by day
so the threw his talents over his face
and it was like fet you see the rebels
is not in this world there was like
and and could He tried to stop the reb
but there wasn't in this world. So this
two guys p went and held the rash to
help him go around
but generally it was very so the later
years it didn't bother me to I so I had
a place in the front so I would be able
to see the reb there. So I was standing
there as a whole bleacher I was at the
bottom of a bleacher but it was like and
the whole bleacher could all the way in
the front on the left side. We couldn't
see the rub in the middle. There was no
chance. So we're singing we're not see
you know don't see the suddenly one of
look looks
what so I see over there on the one side
and everybody's screaming the faces are
red scream all the
>> that's how it works the people that saw
>> and then
>> and then I suddenly see they all
catching their breath and the other side
they're red in the face they're
screaming
>> as it turns around
>> a minute minute and a half and then
they're turning around and see the terra
was holding
in his hand
his father's name. I don't remember
exactly
but the other officer there made us work
hard. I remember there was eyes like
burning you know everybody said there
has blue eyes I never noticed it but I
mean there was like I remember black I
don't know there was eyes burning
but not sharp like I don't know pulling
pulling a was like looking at everybody
but the most which I can't forget is
after the seventh
and the ever came back instead of giving
back the I remember Kogan Everybody
tells me I'm wrong, but I remember uh
Kogan, you know, from Lenigrad,
>> which you just had feature article on
him.
Yeah.
>> Uh so um so I remember he was standing
there to take the from the Reb and put
it back in. But the Reb came back to his
place. Instead of giving the cifhater,
he went up with the cifhater in his hand
and he went up on his bimma
and the rebas
waited for the mashbakim whatever all
the guys on the reb's bimma to go down
bend down and the re started
I have never ever seen a dance like that
and there was jumping
I mean the house
jumping. I will not forget at one point
I saw the Reb's shoes in the air. He was
jumping so much jump. Okay. It was a
long time. I didn't look at the clock
but it's a long time this niggan and
there was just jumping and jumping and
jumping and
sea to all sides and people
then after the niggan was over so Kogan
reaches forward he wants to get the sea
and label get away get away cuz he saw
there wants to sing another niggan
started yet wasn't as much as
but still um freigh and then there would
take there and he gives such a kiss. I
never seen they were kissing anything. I
mean they were kissed film you don't see
it that much.
It was such a a I mean everybody who saw
it
>> you saw so you never seen a kiss in your
life. He kissed the tear
>> before with his mouth before he gave it
over to Kogan.
>> I I've never seen a kiss like that. It
brought tears to my eyes. I've never
seen anything like it. G such a kiss. It
was like you see the it was unbelievable
and it was
guys told me later I was in I wasn't
able to be here the guys told me if you
had to choose to be the last one that
was a good choice you know whatever
anyway
again amen
and
this year.
>> Amen.