[Re-release] Tishrei With The Rebbe with Rabbi Yisroel Noach Vogel

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In addition, if you've benefited in any way from a monk podcast and would like to give something back, you can do so today at.org/donate. Thank you, Rabbi Vogel, for making the time to have this discussion. >> Thank you. Okay. So, I felt it would be appropriate to leave the am that is listening to the podcast with basics. And what I mean by basics is tish is the time where one of the primary focuses of is uh with the and that everything that that entails and that the experience and the best way to do that is to speak to that have experienced it and know how to give it over and I think that's very beneficial for me personally and for thousands of people throughout the world. uh whether they know that it's beneficial for them or not, maybe this will help in that effort. >> Sounds like a plan. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> As of. >> So, I think you could, you know, I I'll think what what we can do is start off just going through in a chronological order. So, it's the first time I was here for >> Yeah. They asked the am not to take more than one, not to ask for anyone else. So from then I think that stopped the asking for someone else but they gave numbers and the Reb thanked the Vader afterwards because of numbers it came easier. >> There was numbers for lack of >> Yeah. That year anyway >> you got a ticket. >> Yeah, a ticket with numbers. It went easier because if you know what number you are, you you're less hesitant. You know, you go. So it it made it made it faster for the Reb and the Reb would always tilt before. So the Reb would the the tray of cake tray loads of trays would be inside the room and for every person the Reb would take a piece and give they would look take a piece givea but each person I would look at them turn into his room, take the pieces, you know, backwards and forwards. They claim this I heard once a s that person there was not like a a waiter a server you know serving food but was a lot easier when later after so the tray is in front of the just >> giving from the tray like that >> yeah it seemed like you know is not giving you he's not a server giving food he's like >> right >> but it became easier >> to have the tray in front of the >> tray in front of the driver gives you peace so he doesn't have to turn that And >> so it went to a certain extent it went faster. So whatever we stood in line for and you have the two sudas then you come back to push for catch a place for um the braha to the bahim. Okay. After the braha downstairs >> after ma was a braha to an they say the didn't those years the reb didn't like the microphone this was years that it went like that to the microphone should take it away >> the whole thing changed because it used to be >> used to be me was the first time was ah >> then became a and a regular >> then became a long I think >> in the early would get on top of the table. Yeah, that's a >> pictures of it. >> Yeah, there a video of a table. Whatever. It's higher. >> It went up onto something. Yeah, it could be. I heard it there was a table, but afterwards um it became a me I think was a like over an hour. >> Yeah. >> Ara like [laughter] people barely had time personally to go run home and come back. You know, you want to go to mikvah before again. It was like then I remember the braha. [clears throat] So um after the braha so I mean they held the microphone at the side and as the went to the side of the standender and as he closed his eyes see the braha then they put the microphone close. who's holding it whoever it was casin maybe was holding it close to to on a stick so he doesn't have to be close to the you know and uh the tone is different tone of is different than I think they ever stressed that many years And right after that ran upstairs to Kul catch a place for the braha >> for the for the I ran out and um okay you know the time said they're opening the door a certain time was I think 15 minutes before mention they don't want too much pushing. It's a whole other story. I'm not going to get into that now. But there was years when there complained that the Baham pushed for so long that they they didn't have time to eat. >> Yeah. Because the bahim were waiting saying amal was open and people were sit there the whole day >> and the rabbi was not happy about that not eating but you know because they're hopping a place. So they made a rule >> that the doors locked >> right. So they would open up like 15 minutes before >> and that's the whole thing where everyone stampedes into into the room >> because was another thing. So you started using you know when the brain keipper moved first it wasn't there of his room for the first 10 years nine years until it became impossible in there. What happened was the light switch went on and off. So um the mam disturbed the next year went out to get in the tan. there's more room standing there and on the stairs until moved into the so it's like every 10 years they had to make a change was impossible and I just want to describe what's like when I describe it but going into the kipper and uh people just coming in and coming in and coming in and they took out all the furniture the only piece of furniture which was left was like two tables or four tables in um what do you call it soften side I would say next to mascus where the reb came in so they had the rubbish stander on top of the tables to put a carpet on top of it also and there would go up and stand on the tables besides that it was place is empty only the bimma which they I think they couldn't take it out >> has bimma >> no not just armor the the bimma >> it was stuck on the floor >> it was too big to go out of the door. I don't think they could move it. >> So, they put it near the second door, you know, near the kazin. >> I think it was there and guys would stand on there, but besides that there was uh empty and it's like six huge fans. I mean, the air conditioner there was not strong enough for such a three huge fans on both sides. makes such a noise, but you need it just to blow the air through and just place is just filling up and filling up and filling up and filling up. And I'm short, so I'm trying to catch my hat cuz my hands like this and I catch my hat and the place is getting fuller and fuller and fuller and I feel my hand is like squashing my chest like it's hurting. I I felt like, you know, the I don't know. I managed to move with a drop. It's crazy. You know, pushing pushing and pushing. It's not pushing. It's just squashed. And the guy right next to me, don't forget he got standing in lines. Wherever there's a a centimeter of space, you know, there's somebody there. And the guy right next to me, his hands were down. And there's no way he could pick his hands up. And, you know, shvitzing this his glasses just slid off. and they fell down. It doesn't go onto the floor. It dropped down over here. He says, "Do me a favor. Could you put my glasses on?" [laughter] So, I'm like, you know, barely able to move my hand. Then I pick up his glasses. And managed to hook it onto this ear, which is close to me, but I can't reach the other ear. [laughter] I tried a few times and it's like in the end, he said, "Forget about it." Hook you do. There's nothing you can do. You know, it's like >> your hands are where they're locked. You you cannot pick your hands up. Your eyes are squashed. I mean, like no moving. Then there became a sh never came in. As soon as it ever came in, they unplugged all the fans cuz you wouldn't be able to hear a word. They unplugged all the fans. Then it got hot. But it uh whatever the I wasn't able to see anything, but at least I'm in the same room as Yeah, I could hear. there. I can't say I caught the braha because I wasn't used to this type of pushing. Takes a different type of concentration to be able to listen even though there's pushing. But the words are very interesting. you listen over to the recording afterwards like the like of it that was the first year the Reb allowed a speaker. So they hid the microphone under the stander. There was a speaker in the hall and then maybe in the start started using the hatser [snorts] >> could hear something. I think the was for the younger bakim. No, >> that started later. Then the person did the should be. >> So those years was every bak was yeah that's why I was a young bak was 15. So the whole thing I was there the whole thing that only the older >> only after started >> then they changed the sed when I came I was in the outside was disaster and the the pushing there for an hour before and even that doesn't help me because I'm not good at pushing and I found myself on the outskirts could not and also there came out very late came out I don't know maybe 10 uh I don't know 7 minutes 10 minutes after they came out very late and the whoever was inside they disconnected the microphone because they thought it's they thought you know it's going to be already so there's no microphone the spoke louder than usual the heard there's no microphone no speaker and there spoke louder than usual I just heard in the I just heard the hum of the Reb's voice all I remember at the end I heard oh can you hear that then I heard clearly Besides, I couldn't hear a word, but they recorded it. They say, "Whoever held the held the tape recorder." So he said, "Doever finished two and a half minutes of pushka." Okay. Or rely on him. Tape came out. So obviously it was. And uh there's a recording. And uh you hear crying in the middle of one of the was screaming I don't know it was on top of the roof the you know didn't have but the beams were there >> and he was on top of the beams and he was like I don't know what happened some screams so there was stopped in the middle >> middle of the >> in middle of the >> but um talking what's going to happen but one of the things that came out from then that they would block the suka also no more than 15 minutes before lmanion shouldn't have pushing like that like there was pushing for an hour it's crazy before yontiff before kipper I mean you know whatever different uh for me the best was mdalat I was ready from the age 22 and the kutza could be in the back room was the They took out that window where the swarm is are and uh they put in all the benches from the from the z into the kadesheni put planks of wood on top of them. So you're standing high was so high I could see so well. >> That's interesting. That's the best place >> for me that was the >> unless your mom is in front. Yeah. >> Yeah. For me that was the best. So so mama should be able to see and the reb came in for some reason I don't know why they put a a microphone in front of the reb was like why you putting a microphone there I mean as went up the stairs and he came to onto the table and there sees a microphone right in front of the stem there and there like stopped and you know like made his shoulders like what is this there's a video of it and immediately bakar came out and >> so what's the problem the yik >> there wasn't yontik But it's um for Hassia after >> right. Uhhuh. Okay. >> So like so immediately Baka jumped up and pulled down the microphone but there was another hidden microphone under the standard. I don't know what he was trying to prove but whatever. But there's a recording but I'm saying you shouldn't have done that. Put a microphone there. Some years the Reb would pull the talis over his face and some years the Reb just left him >> his talis on top just without putting it down but it always felt very special the braha to the bahim the mahas to the bahim in a way like uh I don't think it was another during the year to like that okay later is clawless that's to tell them from outside New York or outside America. >> I mean the first year the Reb said the Reb started it the premise for doing it is the said so this is the that's basically what it is. It was a very very special feeling for that and Kipper itself was very peaceful as a calm you know especially the night of the name very calming by >> I didn't see because after the till I got down and I didn't see much but there was which kind of interesting thing. It's a separate story, but I probably printed once. I don't know cuz a few days before in keer the the Arabs went into um Maris Yakino they destroyed the place I think they ripped up two and they were mishb and there was very upset about it. They say this is written down with um gash Jacobson when he went by the reb on Kipper there told him it's still before I'll see if you can get some more details what happened over there and it seemed to bother very much and continue talk about it both the um whatever means and then uh by day Shabas braces but there was a a whole hemsha but it began in kiper the night of iniper so after ding you see tm usually there would go out after finished till stood maybe half hour after the finished was for form but after he finished he didn't go especially fast but the reb seemed like he was going very slow half hour after uh hasn't finished the Reb is still saying tam and uh again the during a kipper day there's not much happening the didn't even have m on on day whatever shak >> so by um so there's nothing much happening during the day is like the lowest key point of >> yeah it's no to be a whole day with it was >> but peaceful And then the a few times >> but after I mean I love um >> Mhm. there would go. Yeah, there's a certain uh >> so by this know there was a certain house >> that and wants to know what time is keu >> you know >> but it's a I love the way that everyone did that especially then um then after the break or during the break start hopping places for the march because that was the the highlight this time it was the middle of nila Z and something happened with the kids. I don't know exactly what and the turned and he asked the he misunderstood. He thought that wants everybody to leave the area of the Ahmed. So he screams and tell everybody to go away and then they understood that the kids who were there they wanted them to come onto so a bunch of kids maybe there 30 40 kids exactly and they stood on near the wall now usually when so he bangs with his left hand on the stander so the whole island could see but here because the kids are standing on the right so with his left hand banged on the stander with the right hand. He turned to the kids. I think it was Hulao but for sure that they were made to them very strongly with his hand. So the kids they should sing and um at the end of um Sim Shalam after the Reb asked the Kazen to wait and the Reba asked to all kids under braitzu who are able to dav should come to his place. started a whole in in the back. I was like more near the bimma. So the message didn't get there exactly heard it alakinder the establish kids you know even before upish I remember and on the table which is blocking the from pushing too close to the baham standing on there holding kids and they have to send them back to the parents because they're one of the only kids who could >> mhm >> and they're waited but they say that the rebu then crying I heard in the name of rabbi groner he never saw the reb crying like that like five minutes sobbing and uh one of the kids who was there says uh he saw they were crying like that he started crying so they heard him crying there looked at him and smiled but um and after all the kids gathered started a volcano I mean I would say there wasn't that dry eye in the sh it was like you could sense something happening there in volcano again you know as years went on there would to sing of over and over. >> Mhm. >> It was like uh by by the time it was like five times by the fifth time there was throwing himself backwards and forwards you know and the island was like and after volcano so then the kadesh on the march. So the um so here because all the kids are there so label grown instead of having the kids should push around the rebber from all sides. So you pull the rebando all the way to the left so the kids are near the wall and but only on one side of the reban. So you know cuz it's so the chair was right at the edge of the bimma closest to the then stand there. I didn't notice this punct. So somebody told me he said he put the chair with the back of the chair to the island so that it went like this. He should turn the chair the other way. So the reb should be able to get up on the chair. >> Napoleon's march. >> Yeah. And he comes to Napoleon's march and there goes like this his hand on the stander. They should um start singing. And then it was standing and there was straightening his talis straightening and straightening and straightening. He looked at me like there was it's hard for him to go up. I don't know. It's a long time. It's just straightening his tongue. Straightening straightening. Finally, the Reb put his left hand on his right hand on the stander and stepped up onto the chair and a little bit the Reb waved his hand backwards and forwards a few times and then there went down. It's like very short. Even though I'd never been there before, it still sounded to me like it was short. Lier what I heard from previous years. >> The other years it was lot longer. >> Yeah. >> I mean the I remember later years I don't know not sure what year they started putting the stairs there. It's a lot safer for the rabbit. They put the stairs I think Malant went up on the one of the stairs. I just remember that sear there was most of there was the talis was covering their face completely and there would clap like almost from inside the talis electricity in the air you know it's like the the island was like the march was unbelievable and he said this time was short and I'm not getting to but [gasps] no we're getting there now so then this matim and there was a you know three times >> was I think it was almost always was >> and the last few years was um >> by the way was the only time that the made people fast a little longer >> because of this thing with the kids >> otherwise there was very mak they say the the reb would have a watch on his stander >> right >> so you shouldn't go over the time >> and um now the the later years it was um Reb started singing his father's name >> father's name >> and also and also the reb would come into with his hat right >> yeah most times even though I heard that me I wasn't there I was by I heard that me that actually walked into me with a talis not with a hat so right after a reach's place asteroa Um the flapper they were call flapper >> flapper. Yeah. >> So he said so he said yes I guess he was thinking >> they would always say they even say some was having heart attack. So there was can't they bring the vehicle yet and always >> and then the would um the would take the hat off and put in the in the drawer and stand there and take it off. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> There's different there's differences from the year when they would put on his hat. >> Some years they take it off till after the till after >> and later years started putting on early sometimes even by cave ready put on the hat. Um and the thing that writes in this would come into and he writes schlapp remember correct and if I remember correctly this huga to come with the schlap is recorded by the with that word schlapp but it's interesting in the rashimus spoke about it one of the sudas also that the a year which I guess there was especially meticulous in writing down the predis his talis was not on top of his head. So even though in Zmani his ears people cover the put the talis on the head here the freak didn't the says I didn't know if there's a meaning for barabim or not so I didn't write it in hug him but nevertheless it's a >> right >> then the will go upstairs and be kavana >> what be kesana >> yeah was outside there is there's a picture actually wrote on >> [snorts] >> Um smiling. I don't know exactly what happened. And the Reb wrote in the back of the picture. >> That's the one from down >> could be >> that the angle is from down. >> Yeah, maybe smiling because of his angle. I don't know. >> Yeah, there's a story about it. [clears throat] >> I don't know. >> Prepare for the new year. 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So the year starts with this with the complete. Take a minute right now, calculate the number of days of this year. Count up your family members and head over to my karanhashana.com. That's m ke ha.com to secure your daily sedaka and continuous brais for the entire year to come. Okay, fine. So we're move. So now we have uh the >> which is everyone's >> so is only the first day >> right? Um again before l before meas those days were quite unevent uneventful I would [laughter] say um >> before oh you see because the >> when the changed and >> you didn't see the changed didn't see the reba too much >> so now we get >> never came up >> okay so now we get to the highlight of >> at least in my view >> but I want to go over uh whatever the first time I came to it Day after Yipper. >> Mhm. >> It seems like there started on Yuan Haga. The day after Yam started to go to the oil. So the day after every Y >> every Y besides Rashana because it's didn't go on a fast day. But um day after in Kipper there went to Lav. So I remember when I came to some so they said actually somebody picked us up from the airport and said then the already done was in the aisle already went home so we're not going to see the reb that night. So the first time I saw there was but uh and there went also and from then on I think all the years from the after would go through. So um um I just described the I described it in the the forerunner for the >> the original my first 24 hours by the reb was like whatever it's interesting I think I think it's archived you can get online I think anyway [snorts] seeing the first time my father admitted to me when the rebba came into he was looking at me not not at the [laughter] he wanted to my reaction. But uh funny thing is I'd never seen a video then a film of the Reba before I came to the Reba first. So I'd never seen they were walking or anything. I saw pictures but I never seen a video. So I see they're walking in downstairs. [cough and clears throat] It's tishary. So all the would be downstairs besides from Zyra also started to be downstairs during t you know the big island it wasn't hard to ask the rabban says that I noticed through the years cuz I remember one time a bus of tourists came half the bus was boys half bus was girls I don't think they were from but they asked those girls in the in the bus So the Reb down downstairs even though it's quite empty but it wasn't hard to ask the Reb to down downstairs. was an excuse. They were down downstairs even, you know, hat downstairs cuz a big island. >> Anyway, um so the reb came into remember seeing there for the first time. I would say he looked different than I ever saw the Reba before though after that. I mean before I didn't see but after his face seemed like glowing. It was like I don't know it was different look. And there we go. This place during Ashri not sure when that stopped. I think after >> I discussed this on a different podcast with someone I don't think we came up with an explanation but had this hug. >> Yeah. put on the gel and put then later snapped that >> and to my would come in with a gle on [clears throat] >> then only and um okay I'm going to cut out a few details have to go through every single detail but just seeing seeing the right after Mina Reb turns around and goes over to Ardesh touches the paras and freight in Ley Frerieden the photographer was there that was his first year first year's official uh photographer. >> Mhm. So the asba saw him standing there next to give him a beautiful smile and I see you know I have to learn the han I see smiles everybody smiles and there walked there was going and somewhere near the bimma in the middle of the shul suddenly stops stopped everybody ran over there by the time I got over there the was already out of the sh but the reb asked then bakar who's taking pictures let's go in tanya height how How much time do you know about pay? I mean when I went over there I heard him tell you asked me if you >> this is an English guy when like another American eight years later spoke about it I asked him if he learned photograph Maybe I don't know that one. >> No, but this this was like >> did this a few times. >> Yeah, but this was like about >> it's referring to that time. It's 8 years later speaks about it. >> There's a video walks in. >> Yeah. >> Straight over the summer time. >> Yeah. That morning. Yeah. >> Yeah. The morning. What's interesting there ask the person who's holding the f the camera not the one who's holding the video. >> Interesting. >> Personally I feel that video you have more to learn. One of the things never says you took a picture yesterday took a picture day before why you taking a picture again. What are you going to get from it? So don't hog which people um they write down they saw such an hog a different hugger but what do you get from just taking a picture again? That's what there was. So I don't know my own boy when it comes to videos there was not so against it because a video does have a >> you know there's something more you could learn from >> and I'm thinking about them theorizing about this more there was opposition from the for pictures and was told but video >> so there are mentions in that about >> right video later when uh And Krinsky went to start the videos. I mean and was doing the videos in the liked it >> even in that also there was satellite. >> Mhm. >> Didn't say the didn't say it in a positive way. >> Mhm. I remember one of Hild Krinsky I think it was you know the one who started gem and he was like uh or maybe it was Freedom one of them anyway one of the family was saying uh the first time there mentions a satellite wasn't positive >> publicly yeah >> yeah so like anyway so I was just saying that this what happened that first men I mean I was there that night there was between and it's the last time was that at So my father asks I'm a client are you going to so says you just came you already wanted to go to but later later years I found out it was an haga >> before and afterwards >> no no be first you hear and then you go to >> even the first the bakim who came before and they wanted to go to as soon as they arrived and the freed said after shabas And they were wondering and Bobby Simpson then he explained he said now we don't hear we don't hear the Indian shout first come and then you so maybe that was the Indian didn't have this that year because our ticket was the day after is there was no way we could change it. So um we're talking and um my father's asking and was there was nothing to do already we there was already he's going to the so I didn't have but because of that my father sent me the next year for so another >> because you didn't have >> because I didn't have then so >> I came the next year so I had >> just by yourself >> yeah I mean yeah I went to room by I was twice and very short but um we up to so that night was so I remember the discussing if the um usually afterb would come at 1:00 in those years but because go to the because it's So mama will come at 12:00 and they were right. I already told you before about the the goal. So I'm not going to repeat but me b me b me b me b me b me b me b me b me b me b me go I'm not going to repeat it again >> and that night was there we came back from there we came back from so the downstairs till the end of there would always be a break between even though was late was after but nevertheless there was always a break between after mandal did that So they started having together and even shabas byan if it was late also together that's a new han started eld so after ma there went upstairs to his room and there was media that may be I think 9:15 whatever and then a courts of faban usually a court of fabang meant two hours bar two two and a half excuse Um comes in and uh I told this already before about when I said first time. Okay. Anyway, first timer said that he wants all to go to um especially to show that in the world. So should go and beus. So to show that Yid wherever he is he's comfortable he's valas so especially should go to all the different places then going to be the other places stood up by then gave out dollars it's the first time getting dollars from the rebed so I went over by the time I went However, in the early years of dollars by Fabangan, it would still be in the middle of Fabangan and the Tistan would go around and give dollars. It was hard to climb over the people and especially I wasn't used to it. When I came to the revis gave me a pack of dollars, but as soon as I went off, somebody says to me, "Everybody has dollars already. Take for yourself and uh give me the rest. I'll give back to Mosquious cuz there were loads of tist." >> Mhm. I tried to squeeze back inside and it was a interesting um and the Reb said to a few to whistle remember from is next to me and he's whistling I think the Reb said two and one went after another to whistle by the third nan he's still whistling he has his eyes closed and he's whistling with all his kayak and looked at him and smiled he was like in a different world and the end said um like sing going out of gus there started to give simha and there was stood up and made a very wasn't very unusual in those years but it was still an interesting uh thing that's really the night before sukus and sukus used to be a peaceful yont once time before sukasa The only real frail night was the second night sukus. Besides that it was um >> why the second night? Second night is always for it was a moment thing officially. The second night of sukas is because in mlang. So the second night was always loads of herangans. Randle Futfas used to fang the was a big always a big fang. The house where I was staying futfas was an uncle. So he used to come to that suka always for ring and um anyway. So um I remember just uh the second night every time most times when there came in that sukas they were saying and there came in there on the way to his place and start my or was second night sukus they were singing and there comes to his place or put down the turns around him start clapping turn around to the was like wow it's like a really exciting it's very unusual a regular like that but did that every that was they say because of what happened afterwards and there wasn't with that was unusual but even also there and um I'm going to remind myself now but and there's every especially before mar so one of the time is salah and there comes in it's you look the video it's on the tishary video of it which gem came out gave out the black and white one there's a fraen video but it's not that good the black and white one push focuses on the you see the is seriously happy it's like hard to explain it's serious for >> that's the particular thing I mean that looks like what the Reb looked like on some that the Reb's shoulder slightly as he's clapping and and as turns around Nigan's over and Hakafus used to be the same way soon as turns around then Ligan's over. Hak is over. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They say one of the not sure why they say one of these gimmel maybe early was upstairs came into and they're seeing Allahb got up on his chair and for 10 15 minutes they say whoever was there will not forget it people saying ah I missed it I was there but everybody remembers that >> I think it has something to do with the the the with the niggan >> I don't know what I'm saying >> I mean you could say a bunch ac really liked whatever like >> also like it also works very well musically. I don't know like it's a very >> I thought about it over the years like what's what's this thing >> I wouldn't know why but anyway that's but there's a bunch of really liked so also is one of the nonimm that um mavage sing it by hakafus one of the nonunimon >> mhm yeah >> um shin where's the others not too many more the hakas but that change the sometimes it ever changed it especially when he danced by himself in the later years. Um but generally I say sukus is a peaceful yont I'm not going to go into the second night and ladv was a strange thing it parted from the second night of sukus it poured until pa almost did not stop raining I don't remember a single meal we were able to eat was like run in with your coat and eat fast and go out it was pa pouring the whole time it's settled from the rebaban it's printed >> that uh somebody asked How could you have the name of if you if you um was such a mat of raining and it says in the Mishna so how could you have so said since you're ready also they say even though it's raining say it was pouring came in said loud so should hear you say even though it's training also said if inside right >> so there in the settle the says since you're ready that day so it can't be that the doesn't accept your sitting in the exact it's the discussing it's hard to understand this because we do continue to also whatever it's >> I think that year they did they didn't they didn't eat But the >> yeah whatever >> inside >> actually hasha knight >> I think someone was describing a menal and he was heard his head out I heard about that >> night so after till announces because the sent over somebody suggest here bring so I wasn't there you know my friend I was a young boy my father took me home to sleep I have to tell him but the guys went into the suka bring it's pouring and they say before the went home they would go home shab would go home by shak so the looked inside the suka and saw ranging and the said >> mhm >> anyway so it was raining so much the sherba the reb gave out lak next to his room >> and not in the suka so I got lak next was ruled. 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Order your set today and start living with >> so you're from till >> I just want to mention one more thing was interesting um uh second day sukas so the first day use a little of an um the would always stand and wait until does their hakafa then they would start continuing to down so the reb would first go make the hakafa every behind the but there would stand and wait every single day they would always look old years so they were standing it's waiting the kazin he didn't know or whatever the reason was he screams landas the meaning is that you put back the cifer and as you put him back scream the khan screams landas and everybody else repeats the pock and here he screamed landas and there's this big estric in his hand that returns to him what are you doing? So that was uh when the finished going around the bimma. So the reb himself as he turns turns around the reb started himself she like unusual anyway uh you see okay let's get some as I said sus was um peaceful then till and so I remember um uh Uh remember Jacobs called me up the first time he said describe was the end of the nuns maybe not so much the end zone described tish for no problem I'll describe tish I'm speaking about comes to his new word about he's interviewing me on the phone I said I can't describe he left me alone the next year he calls me again he says you have to help Nobody wants to talk about everybody asked. They all say we can't describe I said you know I'll try as much as I can but it's indescribable. So I I usually give the three and I say very brings down explaining the they said the first time he was by the alter used to do hakus first by himself the family and then he would come out to the whole so the hakus the alter himself said the whole he was kaz like for the whole and he was kazen for every hakafa repres I started to have a little understanding what a yid must have felt felt like when he went to migdash first time I had such a understanding that's one one Indian another Indian I'll tell you like this there's say kar had a whatever about had a dream who had already passed away came to him in the dream. So who's in this world says how is it up there? He says very good to a shabas. So wakes up he's wondering what do you mean? He thought to himself like this. It says shabas is so by every person shabas is of his but when you come to he invites you to his shabas his mahaba is more than your whole >> I was thinking the same thing the rebba invited us into his and that's probably maybe whatever the reason why you can't describe it you push you felt like you're in a different idol there's certain times People tell you that or even the moment you're getting a dollar from the Reb you suddenly in a different dimension time has a different meaning over there everything has a different meaning. So by the reb the rabbi invited us into his his printed in I think it was a book called whatever not articles just articles from people about the I don't have the book but I saw in that article [clears throat] somebody writes like this an Israeli um you know >> reporter >> reporter so he writes like For years, I've been hearing that you can't describe. Now, I'm a reporter. My job is to describe things until one year I decided I have to go there just to describe. But what should I tell you? He says, he's writing this in his article. He said, "What should I tell you?" The first time I see something you cannot describe. What should I tell you? The describe the bleachers of the bakim up to the ceiling jumping up and down. shall describe to you the tuatis of thebigan. None none of this will give you the the atmosphere the the the a which there is you can't he say first time my life I see something you cannot describe and I'll tell you something else when I was on to come he's uh he tells him for whatever reason it was one year he was here says he said when he saw He says and he asked surely how could I prevent my son from experiencing the same the same experience he says he traveled specially to the rebba another time I figured that was sim whatever I traveled to the reba specially just to give my son the opportunity to be by the rebus I don't know it's a kite whatever but I'm standing feeling >> it was amazing just to hear that from him and after saying that you can start explain describe whatever you can describe you can't you can't describe I'd say most years you know before the comes in the night of I mean it's all the same they go into different differences basically um my would be at 7 7:30 would start at 9:30 :30 after started at 9:00. Same thing with Fang and they try to make things a little easier to make the half hour earlier. But in general, I'm describing they're coming into which is more than so a lot of the years that I remember was 10 years in the later years. So generally it's saying um Yeah. Yeah. So there be a circle people dancing. Once it got full there is no room to dance and people you know singing on the place and the comes in and they make a shill for the come through and there is mid comes in a sther everybody I've spoken to says the same thing you know usually comes with a sther he puts down the s but everybody remembers puts down his sid with both hands to know him and then the turns around. Hey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And suddenly the whole 770 is like one stick. It's not separate people anymore. Everybody controlled by the Reb's hands by the Reb's movements and everyone's together. It was amazing feeling just all together. And then there was I mean uh there was scream at the recording there is from Mashia from the is nothing compared to that. Well, now we have another recording. >> Yeah. I don't know if it's I'm sure it's not Loratzens. I don't know should mention public or not. But the the the way there was a that you could hear the Reb over most of the sh there was screamed so loud. I remember people even saying I wasn't here but the people saying the way the reb in the beginning was screamed at also allares is loud comes to it's like way louder and then after each night and dayb say the karata three times that's a letter from rash to the rebba asking in the Reb to continue saying the >> Oh, so that the letters to continue it. >> Yeah, that's if I remember correctly. >> I thought [snorts] I thought I remember that it was like Okay, interesting. Okay, >> I thought I thought he's asking that to continue. >> Okay, >> they say people have been saying that they used to add a ho >> sometimes. Yeah, sometimes not. >> It's on Hak. >> Yeah, >> but then they figured out was only one time that they added on Hak, >> right? So maybe the other times because of the interesting um they printed they printed hakafus you know everybody should have copies >> they put that in >> they put it in didn't say it remember did not say it anyway then to go the first >> and there we go to go to the middle whoever's close by wouldbay there would say gam that's the main reason people would say that so the reb should say gam one time by day they lose >> and it can be for the deba has to be for yourself [laughter] >> we're all uh we want to cash in as many as we can >> so one year I actually kissed the satire while the was holding it by day by day was less people day was less people and by night >> by night was like I remember the first time I was there trying to catch a place. I got the most dangerous place in uh was between the Russians and the Frenchies. >> Danger zone was a little closer to the Russians [laughter] in the middle night sh also in the middle of the what one of I blinked. I'm telling you, one second they were there, 200, 300 guys just one second they're there, the next second they're not there. They all jumped down again and they landed on top of one bucker had to give them oxygen. Before lad, there used to be near the in the middle where there would dance two huge bottles of oxygen the green you know whatever you call them >> metal. Yeah. Labelki standing next to them like they have to give him oxygen. in this bah like and they see one bakar standing there. The ventures are empty. You know, suddenly go they all clear cleared out went to the hakafa and they see one bar minus his hat minus his jacket minus one shoe. He bends down, picks up two titets, rolls them from a business pocket. They were wild, those guys. Anyway, the Russians had from one of the beams on the window of the vibes inside. He had a rope. So the last guy because it's a drop so they had a rope there to hold on to >> the equipment. [laughter] >> Everybody had their own at those years. I don't know why they would block the Kingston vibes. So if there's any ladies in there, they couldn't see a thing. But I was on top. I had my sweater on because the air condition was blowing right out of me. So I turned it you know the flaps it should close somewhere else. So I said, "What are you doing everybody there? Don't close it there." I'm not closing. I'm just turning it like freezing. >> It's good. I mean, night comes in. It was quiet and turns around. And then remember the roar of the crowd like began. Uh um what should I say before hakafus I sat there for the first time my father whatever I sat down with my father on first table nish opposite the reba came we didn't go to I didn't even I don't know if I knew about it or not doesn't make difference I was there it's the only time I saw the make kdesh by night came in he made kdesh so I suddenly realized I see the Reb like sitting or holding the kais and suddenly I see the going lower. So I guess there was like sort of on his knees. He wasn't sitting. >> He didn't want to stand. No, the whole kesh. >> He didn't want to make the whole stand. >> You thought that was sitting. >> I thought he was sitting. So you see they were going lower. >> [laughter] >> made very frail of explaining that usually they explain and um in middle fab says to honor all detang says uh should sing a niggan of Medina with words from Medina. So they started singing from seven 70 marching out there didn't move as if they're not singing. So they realize doesn't want that niggan. So the quiet voice I guess the discussing what niggan to sing. So the looks to barsman. So he sung a song. I don't know the words for sure though. I always sang in Russian and there was a little bit and after you finish singing in Russian they have to sing something in English. So there was no finally start singing just one just one sing I knew the words from a different song from England. I didn't know the tune. It's American tune Yankee Doodle. >> Okay. I I didn't know the song and so uh I'm trying to catch the tune as [laughter] opposite me is old old on the other side of the table zing zing [laughter] I'm saying the word I don't know the I knew the words I didn't know the name was clapping was wow mish clapping and then um said to sing a song in French a French song with French words was the Hatir the Reb always used to show him to whistle. So to him, he had a huge hat. Then he was like sort of a leader of a group of uh Frenchies next to him on the Reb's right. They sung the national anthem with an extra piece which I hadn't heard before. It wasn't in the right >> they added it later. So they saying that they sang the >> sung the whole anthem French words and there was looking there was he did them like that. Then there was the but not as much as the first. Not [snorts] as much as the English one. >> The English one. >> Yeah. Not as much as the English one. Well, there was says of his aim. So I figured there before he said so the mother of all languages. So kale did to his head and it came the end of announced that everybody should leave the should leave the sh to be able to set up for hakus. >> At that [snorts] time was no kdes yet. I think that started mandala something like that. camel maybe >> was a kdish after >> kdesh between fabangan and >> okay >> and office which still does it till today you know >> oh outside >> so um anyway the so he got up the old tvski to announce >> I guess it's a a tradition in labav before you make an announcement sha I don't know exactly what happened at that moment I didn't notice but I see label grown telling him to get up onto the table like he's okay he got up on the table he starts again. He starts again. >> Say three times. >> Okay. >> Just like he was the cousin for always. Say the call say three time each time this is a raise your voice really sh [laughter] and the reb is smiling the whole time. So while all this is going on there was beautiful smile. Then he announced every go and then you know that's the only time I heard the reb sing this again is no recording but today I left it's the only time I ever heard the singing this without words. It was just >> you heard the reb singing it. >> I heard they were singing it without without words. >> They sing in front of in front of the >> Yeah. Those times here I heard the Reb sing it himself. M >> and that there became tacus hakus I mean I get into some of them but one of the uh um okay at the end of so instead of the going out the way came in from the sides of the tables they went in the middle of the tables towards the where he danced. So he comes to end there's a table in the way which seem there would do that every year until ladas. So I I I don't know. I was dreaming for a second and one of my friends says look look and I see the was like climbing up onto the table seemingly the pulled a box from under the table stood on the box stood on the table. So suddenly the tables are quite high but stepped up onto the table and as the rebbit jumped down and as he jumped down they went like this. to the I don't know what niggan it was but >> it was blocking the rabbit >> the table cuz the reb walked to the middle so the table was blocking the >> so stepped up they say other years the rebel like swung himself over but the heroes box >> stood on the table and jumped off but I remember as he's jumping off went like that and then they have to slap rashag and label rashag over the table whatever Anyway, that was llama 12. Um [snorts] I noticed something interesting lad during the day fabbran and um it's long fabangan they're wash say around 7 7:30 something like that and uh I remember 25 to 1 cuz I was standing behind there but then came a little later so I didn't have a place I stood behind and so I seen the clock the whole time like 25 to one bar there started the mimemer It was like it's a long fang six hour fang in the middle of fang was um one year there his name is is from they say he was very very active in ms film so the reba told him see quite a number of times at one point I see the rebba I don't know how the cup got to the reba plastic cup the opens the water the pitch of water which was for the Reb. The Reb poured a little bit of water inside the cup and the Reb handed it to label fill up with wine and he gave it to Label handed it to I guess this was the last cup. He was quite uh whatever. So he stands up and there with a big smile like sit down. It was like it's very uh at the middle of I noticed something there again I don't want to be but there was a whole mess that Rabbi Sudak once told us against me of um how the the reb once sort of explained that the rabban >> no no in general in general if you could look it up and Uh he said then they realized the first time there was straighten his tie would raise himself up they realized that same the are coming. So having heard that here I see something interesting like at one point the reb is like clapping to an middle rib goes very fast it's like almost you should notice like a half a minute or minute later there was raises himself up I mean I saw many there were many times passing from one side to the other he didn't raise himself up >> but here like half a minute after he straighten his tie they raised himself up so it tells you something Mhm. >> Different and like that >> among is brought to you by we live in a chaotic world. 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Basically the Reb said all should go to the hakaf to show that belongs to belongs to us belongs to Eden in a sense I would say one of my friends was saying it looked like the was paying back for what he didn't do by the march there was the march was so short he there was like he did mom but the biggest surprise was after there was finished to see took his sitter there started saying the so high pitched I don't know how they're able to reach so high so high like mommy very very high and there was scream lips and there was saying lips quietly you know the small and some people started to sing and some people shy you So as soon as I finished the mara they started singing he did so much there was actually a not a beard right in front of and he was going to the like this the whole time with his hand. So they're made to him also very strong a lot but it was very strong hakafa again even there was a before before hakus but in the middle hakus again before so again the start and this time the said that all those who are um when the army the all different types of maybe all those are different types of the Israeli army should all go to the hakaf then the reb said again in other words he was kaz for that hakafa but the reb didn't go to the middle was on his ding place they didn't know what niggan to sing so after the finished sob started singing hash Um wasn't here whatever I mean was I think they were the special ones. >> I think your hakama I think your hakama was very important give the context. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um I should I say Mandalad was a very interesting um Shminyataris Knight. Usually is like a little contained is not all the way as big as usual night there was like so there was almost bent over double ah there. Yeah. Yeah. His hands stretched out for bending and his hands stretched all the way forward like so afraid of the the hakus. And the next night the spoke about it and the Reb said that with the alterb when there was a who should win the war alter if um Napoleon or or um And uh it was the S shine whoever blows KS first and told the story didn't say the name who was the other just wanted to stress he was a person a person. So it's given there was says like stressing and he says um so the other this he told his people right away to get there the dam fast and when he got to he picked the in his hand and he said I remember there was saying this like loud I the like the he did it first did it already it was called the litw and he he blew for what did alter the the chaer should be before ding just like lulv is before ding then later you take ding again. So same thing should be right in the way in then you blow again in Mos but they stopped there was because um the Romans or whoever it was was getting nervous >> I think I was reading I think it says you're not supposed to do it that early >> not supposed to do that okay the main reason >> right >> not whatever you do it later yeah >> yeah but the main reason is the said not to because the the go were afraid of making an uprising Right. >> But once you do it in the middle of domining, you see it's part of a ceremony. It's not an uprising. It's not a rebellion. Anyway, that was the main reason. But went back to the original thing and he blew first. So you see from this says there but sometimes you have to be before the actual time. So here we will mock them before the actual time of the so the end of this says because the time before hakus so every yeid is able to to bench another ye so everyone should bench and then at the end says to to be um to to said's And then he said and said didn't say Hashem's name said the next day they don't explain why he didn't say the whole only said has to do more of the benches everybody it was after between hakus between and coffus everybody's going around benching each other it was like and this kiddish outside you know everybody's eating there but people going to each other and everybody's benching benching each other was at se I mean they were just benching they were hugging each other also >> it was like that's one thing >> it's an interesting thing that I'm noticing from your te And everyone talks about the rabba but but I two things you mentioned I mean the story of the and also the way you started that everyone felt like one >> so it's like the type of the feeling of brought out you know the like it's it's altogether had this feeling which is Yeah, >> you're saying a mif that you saw. >> I saw a mus. It was the night of >> and it was before around time you know the the the reb would be moved out >> for place. There was two benches in there >> and I saw somebody suddenly screaming from the river wasn't there yet. So the the space for the skin was in the front on Miz. >> Um no um the right side say Dam. >> Mhm. >> And it's called the we labor of the head of T he was um cuz he had something maybe a heart attack whatever it was something something was going on. I remember as they were taking him out to the kids all came and they took him on a stretcher and as he passed by them I was standing like towards the front of the sh o I would say opposite I was ding in a sense to the left side of ardesh but near the first beam so came out opposite and as as they took him out and I see Robert Lio's face he was on the stretcher face white like a what should I say like a white tablecloth like a white shirt is white get oxygen on you know any next part I didn't see obviously but they say that they took him into the ambulance and they that he's not well and they have to take him to the hospital said don't take him to hospital cuz I won't be able to take care of him leave him here should be by every ding every office everything that night they didn't see him I don't think he they brought him to office that But from the next day, Davening Fabangan everything he was there by the Fabangan before hakus they pushed aside two benches where the scaling would sit behind the reba and he was on there on a wheelchair behind the rebus. He's on the Reb's bimma on a wheelchair. Now the reba would be I say wasn't packed. It was full of people. know anybody who felt he had a excuse to be there would be on the rabbis bimma they would bend down so not to block everyone it' be full like whatever and he's on a wheelchair a little past the reba not to block the is on a wheelchair in the middle one of the nigunim and I see there was like looking through the people catch his eyes and there starts clapping towards him and suddenly he was likewah is his hands were hanging over the edges of the of the arms of the wheelchair, you know, it's like on his face is white and there was looking forward to there was like clapping towards him and somebody pokes him like look there was looking at you so he looks up and there was no so he starts clapping I remember my eyes popping out I see part of his face which is white start to get red he starts to come back to himself a day after some I saw him walking around very >> people should saw this with your own eyes. >> Yeah, I saw only I'd say the only time I saw a mifus with my own eyes like there was making in front of everybody. Most people I talked to don't remember it. >> Yeah, I never had this. >> There's if you look in there's a of >> that whole story >> and they don't have the whole story. They just mentioned he was the reference asked about him. Yeah. There's one thing anyway. Um MH is actually the first time I saw the Reb showing to whistle on Yamiff. There was somebody the whole coffers was whistling on the on the left side of our you know >> it happened before >> the bleachers. See the first time I saw the rabb >> but here at the end after it was after lane already mish the end I said yet they returned to the wall they were show to whistle that was like on yontiff I remember I was talking to somebody on the phone after yontiff and I told them they were said to whistle said wow because in this famous says not so here it's said there whistling okay So it was a big >> the same thing as clamping. >> Yeah. I don't know. It happened even more than that. Based there was one time they were said to whist on chabasades. It wasn't here then. Anyway, um was there told turned over the cup was also scene middle of a coffus and that's also the mishb of the was like looming in the background you know >> I can't say thinking of it the whole time but middle of the middle of fangan there was suddenly turned over his cup I can't say mish noticed this somebody told me he sw like that to take out every cup but the Reb turned over the cup and there starts showing to both sides like what does the Reb want? They say Yan was the first to and he turned over whatever was next to him. Then the Reb said something about to empty the ca not to pour out not to waste it. >> Then there's the the m the rabbit afterwards. >> Yeah. But then the reb um the reb held the kama for like an hour a nigen everything and I think also they sung and there were there was holding the in his hand >> upside down >> upside down and there was waving the making there was explaining there was what's a cup upside down so just like on the se the ra puts all the cups upside down. What's it upside down? Just like the windows of the bign. So the light goes from outside. So the same way the hashb comes from the bis migr to everywhere. That's why the cups upside down. So mela is the Indian of holding a cup upside down. It's like next to me is next to me as said he goes wow like [laughter] what a beer explanation. I remember in the middle I'm I'm stay on my place where was more on to the reb's left closer to the back of the sh and I see on the bleacher on the the other side the arm side I suddenly happened to notice a kid the bak whatever maybe he's 15 years old something 15 16 around that age stop he's he's holding a cup with something in the nashka wine inside his standing and holding and smiling from the situation. And I think to myself, you're supposed to turn your cup over. What are you doing? There's no way I can get a message to him. The split second I thought that there were like turned to him when like an emergency showing his cup showing the showing his bakar to him like supposed to be upside down and the bak by the way from where I'm standing I'm standing on top of a high bench that there was no mus by um so hak office was especially there was no musk and uh I saw from down there people are bringing in bottles and bottles I figure they said to empty the bottles. It's maybe like off whatever. I saw bottles all different kind of whiskey and drum buui and bent tea and s like bottles flying in. >> So there wasn't a lot of uh drinking >> generally not from the you know cuz you want to see you want to know what's going on. >> Yeah. But here I think it was a little more because >> Samus was quite I say the I mean they always was always fail and but meas was the last time I was here some there's nothing like me >> everybody talks about >> everybody one of my wife's uncles tanam film al tanam he said to me, I remember hakafas from tshin dal. I said, I remember the old years. There never was hakafas like never. I mean, it's remembering enough from never was like some say that the reb I couldn't notice from where I was standing. Some say they brought down an old kapat which the threads were coming out like ready for work. All I remember is the first night I don't remember too much of the first night but the um Rashag was complaining is was cold always gave him the second so this I was told later he was like whatever uncomfortable aspic what does he want go upstairs I remember they're taking him out during a niggan between races And I felt bad for him as they're slapping him out and the reb starts to be the the crowd was going like wow. And um and this is the first time usually a would be five, seven minutes. Every was 10 15 minutes. The could not keep up with the person felt it. There was no kas and there was eyes were burning. He was like looking to everybody and like slapping out of you the kas which you never knew you had. It's like it was it's unexplainable. Now the place where I was standing in later years I couldn't see the when he danced in the middle and most I'd seen the a few times dancing with Rashad. Rashad he did have kayak later years you know dance for a minute. >> Yeah. Yeah, I read in one of the Z that the Reb basically cut it short. >> The Reb cut it short. >> Yeah, it says like the like >> the didn't want to be m whatever. It was hard for it was very hard, very hard for him. >> And even the first time I remember I saw Lamat Vavv his Rashag is dancing his face is white and like almost like catching his breath, you know. >> Actually I heard from Rabbi Sodak he said joining Kipper war they um by day so the threw his talents over his face and it was like fake. You see the rebels is not in this world. It was like and and could he tried to stop the reb but there wasn't in this world. So this two guys went and held Rashak to help him go around but generally it was very so the later years it didn't bother me to I so I had a place in the front so I would be able to see the reb there. So I was standing as a whole bleacher and I was at the bottom of a bleacher but it was like and the whole bleacher could all the way in the front on the left side. We couldn't see the reb in the middle. There was no chance. So we're singing we're not see you know don't see the suddenly one of look looks what so I see over there on the one side and everybody's screaming the faces are red scream all the >> that's how it works the people that saw >> and then >> and then I suddenly see they all [panting and laughter] catching their breath and the other side they're red in the face they're screaming >> as it turns around >> a minute minute and a half and then they're turning around and see the was holding in his hand his father's I don't remember exactly but the officer there made us work hard eyes like burning you know everybody says there has blue eyes I never noticed it but I mean there was like I remember black I don't know there was eyes burning but not sharp like I [snorts] don't know pulling pulling a kayak was like looking at everybody But the most which I can't forget is after the seventh and the came back instead of giving back the I remember Kogan was telling everybody tells me I'm wrong but I remember uh Kogan you know from Lenigrad >> which you just had feature article on him this so um so I remember he was standing there to take the terra from the reba and put it back in but the reba came back to his place. Instead of giving the cifhater, he went up with the cifhater in his hand and he went up on his bimma and the rebas waited for the mashbakim whatever all the guys on the reba to go down bend down and the reb started. I have never ever seen a dance like that. And there was jumping. point I saw the reb's shoes in the air. He was jumping so much jump. Okay. It was a long time. I didn't look at the clock but a long time this niggan and there was just jumping and jumping and jumping and sa to all sides and people then after the niggan was over so Kogan reaches forward he wants to get the label run get away get away cuz he saw there wants to sing another niggan started yet wasn't as much as but still um Fre and then there would take there and he gives such a kiss. I never seen they were kissing anything. I mean they were kissed film you don't see it that much. It was such a a I mean everybody who saw it >> you saw so you never seen a kiss in your life. He kissed the tear >> before with his mouth before he gave it over to Kogan. >> I I've never seen a kiss like that. It brought tears to my eyes. I've never seen anything like it. G such a kiss. It was like you see the it was unbelievable and it was guys told me later I was in I wasn't able to be here the guys told me if you had to choose to be the last one that was a good choice you know whatever anyway again amen and this year. >> Amen.