Ep. 39: The Process of Documenting the Rebbe's Words with Rabbi Hirshel Notik

The last telegram of the Rebbe, I don't know why, have I got a call to me with the middle of the day. I should come and prepare. I didn't want to ask him why the guy is not doing it, whatever it is. I came back. I was working at time in Williamsburg. I came back and I prepared based on whatever I had spoken at time. A normal type top without the Rebbe having to cross it. We know already from from from from different uh michtavim. From that telegram, the Rebbe was makia added tons of stuff. I'm Yossi Chaim Ein. Welcome to Among Chassidim by Their Hair, an ongoing fabrengen about life as a Chassid, our vibrant connection with the Rebbe, and inspired living shaped by the way he teaches us each and every day. Shalom Aleichem. Reb Hershel, how are you? Baruch Hashem. Thank you very much for being here. Welcome. So, there's a lot that I want to discuss with you with the hanachos, with mymorim, michtavim klalim. There's a lot of involvement that you had. I guess a little bit behind the scenes. I don't know if how many people know about it. So, therefore uh I'm glad that you're here. My first question for you is where were you coming from? When did you get to the Rebbe? How did that happen? Yes, uh I was born in uh Paris. I lived in Aubervilliers. At the age of 5, I moved to a little shtetl called Yerres, walking 25 minutes from the Yeshiva in Brunoy. >> [clears throat] >> In um the end of uh taf shin lamed aleph, 1971, I went to the Rebbe was officially was I was going for cheder shlishi, taf shin lamed beis. I came here chof av. Elul, uh it was shnas hashivim. I stayed here. Uh lamed beis, lamed gimmel. I was in Morristown. About Kislev Tavshin lamed daled I was already in Crown Heights. And that's when I um started getting involved a little bit in the sichos. I >> [clears throat] >> I in the building of 784-788, the buildings next to 770. Uh upstairs there was uh an office. I think later was uh used by uh Yossi Kasan al alav hashalom. And uh this was the office of the sichos, and I would type up here and there the Chavrei Havod lanachas tamim the old one would bring a sicha that they finally got ready to type and to publicize it. They'd ask me to type it. So, what what was the seder? So, the rebbe would bring them Shabbos, let's say. So, in this chazara When is this all happening? No, this In those years, Shabbos farbrengens were about for instance lamed bais, just Shabbos Mevorchim. Maybe one more, Yud Tes Tammuz lamed bais, day of the Bris Fred Karava. Mostly, there weren't so many farbrengens in the year. Officially, each year had someone who would write down off of that year. Uh when I finally came to the rebbe, I was in Morristown. I was so happy waiting to um to come into New York. Once in four weeks, we came in for Shabbos Mevorchim. I was sure I'm coming in here. I'll get the anacha. >> [cough and clears throat] >> Uh I'll be able to learn the farbrengen. And when I would come in here, or they nothing came out yet. Uh the same thing I guess was lamed gimmel. And those were the guys writing the Shabbos farbrengen. The week of farbrengen, they had someone You You saying they weren't producing it properly. >> Right. Right. There was this in those years there was a Yeah, a weak a weakness in the hanachas. Yes. Um And um the the weekly fabrengens, I guess someone would write it uh In those years there were no uh cassette recorders. It was a just a big reel-to-reel. Uh wasn't easy to write it down and after you wrote it down, you couldn't listen over cuz it would ruin again the the reel-to-reel tape. Uh and then someone else not from the ones who wrote the Shabbos fabrengens would um would look over the sicha. Um fix it. It was called making trains, like turning around the words that they have said here to there in order something that was spoken with a nigun should be able to be readable a little bit when it's on text. And then they would type it up. Before it used to be on stencil. Um stencil is something that uh you typed in it You had to type strong enough so it made holes in the stencil. And then that stencil you were able to fix it behind a kind of a little liquid that you could fix. It wasn't so easy. That you'd put on a machine and print it. The ink would go through the holes. Um Sounds like the camping device. That's Yeah. Wasn't What I mean to say wasn't offset. Mhm. Uh when I came was about as I said Kislev uh Tavshinal Madaled. Uh At that time I still remember uh Alec Friedman of Alter Eliyahu Cain Friedman, which is a shliach in Tzfas now. Uh was sitting together with uh Mendel Rivkin, which was for years a shliach the loader of in Eretz Yisrael in Lod. And they were sitting at that time this was Kislev uh trying to write the hanacha of Shabbos Noach from that year. Uh I started typing a little bit of Reb Velvel Shapiro would give me a sicha that it's ready. Could you please type it? Of course. Was I going to say the these people that are writing the hanachas would write write it down by hand? The some of them by hand and some with a typewriter. Those sichas, of course, were all mostly by hand or depends if the guy who typed from the tape was a Israeli guy that knew how to type so maybe it was typed, but a lot of them were by hand. Um So you started typing the these hanachas? He would ask me, "Here's a farbrengen, it's ready. If you type it up, it will come out." If I wouldn't type it, it would go to what you call gniza and that sicha would never come out. Uh And now by the end >> [clears throat] >> I'm sorry. The that same year tav shin lamed daled um I believe Reb Berl Levin got married tav shin lamed daled. Sorry. You don't have to go into all the details, but basically till the chofs Reb Berl write it regular hanachas and then there was the chofs and the early lameds there's like this chidushim, right? It's not No, that's that's not my my line. I wasn't there. Uh if you want to know more about the history of the previous years uh that you would have to ask someone else who has it written down. I came here end of lamed daled. I uh After all, Reb Velvel wrote the hanachas for at least 10 years. I believe of Gimel when he started doing um safer Achim he got more busy. Also Likkutei Sichos. So, I was doing less. The story goes that Reb Eliyahu Eichel and old man Rabbi Simpson uh walked over to Reb Yair like being upset why he was the official choizer why you not giving out writing the maamorim. So, Reb Yair told them uh how many years did you write for the Rebbe Rashab? He wrote hanachos I think tav tav reish samech vov. You only wrote one or two years. I already did 10 years. You know, it's uh people don't understand throughout the years of the bochurim every year or so was a different group of bochurim that were making the hanachos. And even then >> [clears throat] >> not much came out of course just in the beginning after the revolution of the bochurim tav shin chof vov I guess chof vov chof zayin chof reish came out but then later I guess the group of Shvacha um the maamorim at that time already uh when Reb Berel Levin I think got married lamed alef to Reb Tzvi Yechiel Greenblatt Tzvi Greenblatt from Argentina started writing the maamorim. Uh by at that same year Dovid Feldman used to write hanachos uh taken kotzer of ever forbrengen. I think he only made like six copies. He said six people how big was the whole the byuvet? Six people that took from him um a copy. One of them got a copy was uh was the Rebbe. I think Reb Berel Groner used to call it or maybe the Rebbe the kolyor hanachos cuz practically sometimes was on different color paper whatever you were able to get for cheap paper. Paper couldn't get just uh it was expensive. Sometimes maybe even I don't know in the same sicha was a um every page a different color of paper at a at so by the end of by the beginning of hey the meaning the original meaning I think Shapiro asked Feldman in addition to write a which wouldn't take that much time was a short run. He should also write in Yiddish with all the details a lengthy so they could use for there was nobody else at that time that was making us. Feldman agreed they um They of course it wasn't going to do it himself so they had three people of David Feldman and both of them were shaking at later and now he's in Paris and David may show the dot. The the block up the ring and I think by all the dot would write the Russia >> [clears throat] >> and like this they were doing all the of course they all the for bringing us. Also in Yiddish everything was written like a for bringing would be 40 50 written pages. They knew the also they were not they knew the there's all people that know but most probably they said by the bringing and took the but they knew the also of course. Feldman knew the whole for bringing and David all the dot has a very good head of course. But he was based on the road. And um The road was the same same level of but this we're not talking about that like this they started writing for brings of Lamid Hey. And Rebbe Elkan of course came and said should work in cooperation. Cuz he wanted to rewrite the farbrengen. His style of writing is much higher than anybody. Uh But it takes some longer. Uh the pale that throughout the year Lamid Hey most of farbrengens did not come out. They wrote the whole year all the Shabbos farbrengens and Yom Tov. I believe most of them didn't come out. What you see now that there's in Sicha Kodesh a book of Lamid Hey a lot of them were nishlam after Lamid Vov when we started the new Vada Noch Memim. We every time did a farbrengen from the year before. So why did they write them and not put them out? Why didn't they come out? Uh Whatever people uh for sure it wasn't the fault of the three people that were at the office at the time. >> members of the colel. Just Rebbe Elkan wanted to work on them. Rebbe Elkan takes longer. But there is a Vada Noch Memim which was supposed to take care of it. It's not so simple said. Uh By the end of Lamid Hey beginning of Lamid Vov uh And at that time also since we had hoped maybe the farbrengens will come out. So we prepared also some makemes. I remember me and Rebbe Dovid Feldman being in Chever Tehillim which had a nice library. This is before the library in Tzach. There was a second good library kind of that opened up. We had no s'forim so we'd be in the library in Chever Tehillim uh to make a little bit more makemes. And now it seems after working uh a whole year it took a lot of time from from David Feldman. By the beginning of 1972, he notified the Vad and the Sat Maim that he's not going to continue to make any more Anoches. He doesn't want to waste his time. He doesn't have time. He's a brocha set and learn Sedoris Nigla. Uh that's it. That means that in a in a in a certain sense, um Anoches Sat Maim is over. At that time also, the same period of time, the beginning of 1972, I think was Shvat. The Rebbe announced he's sending Shluchim to Eretz Yisrael. I think the first group of Shluchim in Yod Shvat the Rebbe announced. And one of them that was picked was Aaron Boruch Pewzner. In other words, that meant that that's it, there is nobody anymore here that is going to write Anoches. Um This was a Friday night, I think it was 14 14 14 18, I don't remember which building exactly my apartment was. It was the Friday night of Shabbos Mishpatim, Mevorchim Chodesh Shvat Rishon 1972, 1976. Um And on the same floor in the apartment in the build in the apartment, there was another room where my good friend Rabbi Yisrael Yitzchak Pewzner, they called him Itchy Pewzner. I think he's in Chicago, Illinois today, a Shliach. Um Kalman Shore was also someone a good friend of mine still from before, someone else was there. And somehow when I came at night whatever, uh a smooze, I don't say another word, we started talking and they all being very upset, what's going on? Why a sicha is not coming out? And when I gave him a report uh the truth what's going on, they were shocked, they were very upset. On on the spot, a decision was made that we're starting to give out the sichas from this Shabbos. This is Friday night, late at night. From this Shabbos. The fact we don't have who's going to write the sichos. Dovid is not writing anymore in Yiddish. So, we said we'll take Dovid Feldman's s'anoche in loshon kodesh. And we'll take a few guys and they'll write >> he was still writing loshon kodesh even though he wasn't >> No, of course a taken is is he continued. Yeah, sure. Yeah, whatever it's called a taken whatever it was. More than a taken, but uh And then kacha have it right motzei Shabbos we um we took As soon as Dovid Feldman had one page or two pages ready, we sat down. I think Reb Sholom Charitonow, which was a chossid himself, uh my good friend Reb Yankel Meishur Walberg, uh also I knew him from Worcester, had a very good head. And I I think also Reb Mendel Matzkin, even though he was very young. He's today in Paris in Lishka. And uh they started writing down noche in Yiddish. You all know the farbrengen very well also. But here they have a taken already. It's much more than having a good as some chazara. And you write it out in the language you write down noche. And I um had a typewriter there. It was the Not only Hermes was called Hermes Ambassador. The regular good Hermes typewriter was Hermes 3000. The old typewriters were Olivetti. There's a stussin. Olivetti didn't have nice A's and S's, but the Hermes was the one that we used to use. And I had Hermes Ambassador. Uh at that time already by tav shin lamed hey around already was invented uh the new ribbon. It's a one-time ribbon, unlike the old ribbons that were cotton that they keep finishing going back, so the A's and S's are not sharp. Those were uh a kind of a ribbon that every letter you type, it uses one time and the ribbon continues. Once it's finished, you have to change the ribbon. And then you're able to print from it offset cuz it's very sharp. The original is very sharp. And I also I typed the sicha. I used the office that happened to be beginning of 1972. I went upstairs in the building and I found a office, a big storage room. It belonged to Rabbi Krinsky, to Lubavitch. It was had no door on it even and it was all packed on the wall from the storage with stuff that belonged to Lubavitch. I made myself a little space and a desk without permission. And I sat down there to do some work. I even gave out on my own without asking anybody a sicha of I think 1972. Then when we decided to start the new sichas, they all went up to my quote-unquote office. They wrote, it was a little space and I typed it. If I'm not mistaken, by Tuesday we finished and I went to give it a knock head to the person in charge of the printing of the sichas, which was Rabbi Yisrael Tenenbaum from the Matzah Bakery, my good friend. And he sent it to print. At that time the printing was Manhattan, right uh uh right where you cross the first stop when you come to Manhattan was a offset place. And they came back, they were selling it in 770 upstairs. As if it's not maybe till now in the beam of Krias HaTorah because he used to be the one for years selling the sichas. It was a a good lucker here on the underneath the beam in the slant beam of Krias HaTorah. He was selling the oilum jumped on the sicha. It was have a history that three, four days after a farbrengen uh there is and I think the sicha altogether cost like 25 cents or whatever it was. Um after he finished selling, there was some um exchange of words um uh there was no choice and uh uh he was notified that uh that there is no more the old vad. There is a new vad and anoch sat mem. The one that you guys were doing? Yes. So what did the question was on [clears throat] also I have a question there was no is there any sichos from the Rebbe about the anoch is coming out not coming out like what the Rebbe didn't involve in in in that? Just I'll say it now that in the time when we started new anoch sat memim uh till then So I'm saying I'm saying I'm asking before then. >> Yeah. So the Rebbe would complain a lot of times of farbrengen the expression was kind of modgeret um it niche verschrieben the Rebbe said it he spoke something and it's not written down. The Rebbe was upset. I could say that um that from when our sichos started the Rebbe changed the tone the tone used to be modgeret verschrieben orgedruckt was I spoke it was written printed bound in a book put on the shelf and nobody paid attention to whatever I said there. They should have asked a question. Usually there was no question on the Rebbe obviously but that's what the Rebbe said that he what he said is uh there's a question that um but at that time so there there we go we we told them that um there's going to be a new anoch sat mem but who's going to write the sichos? Between shabbos mishpotim to next shabbos farbrengen uh I was walking with uh Reb Dovid Feldman to his apartment he was a bochur of course. Uh I think on Crown Street and uh suddenly I knew he was very very upset there was no way to talk to him about coming back to write the sichos. But at that point suddenly he told me says Hirshel since already um this thing broke out so I'm joining you. I I can't say over how my heart was jumping dancing from joy that Baruch Hashem and takah from Shabbos Vayakhel Vayakhel Shkalim Shkalim he came upstairs and then we started working. He would write down anochas mostly. Uh Reb Dovid Olidort was supposed to do the Rashi for a short time. He did the Rashi sichos. Uh and I together with uh Yankel Shlimer uh Yankel Meisha Wolberg I mix up Yankel Meisha and Reb Goldberg. Uh Yankel Meisha Wolberg uh would do the maram kaimus and later on uh it was mostly me. Uh the same thing uh I did the maram kaimus and the sichos also and the maram. We're talking about simple maram kaimus. Uh when you write the maram, obviously the sichos which the Rebbi is basing the maram that I the person writes the maram is supposed to know but all others citing that I mentioned. Now, making the maram kaimus How do you make maram kaimus? Yeah, how does that work? Making the maram kaimus um Today we know how to make maram kaimus. Yeah, you Google it. AI Forget about Hey, today we have eitzah chachmah. We have many books. In our time there was for maram kaimus and psukim there was a book it still exists called concordancia. Um how do you say it in English? I I know concordancia. Well, I I I think actually I don't believe even was made by a yid. I think it was made by a by an Andru. But the whole I have one. I have one. is based on uh It's interesting. I still keep that book. It's an interesting books from the olden times. The mile of that book is that you could found every word based on the sheresh. As we all know the Rebbe usually did not repeat p'sukim the way they are in the Chumash or Nach. The Rebbe even said once explanation for it. Maybe because of val peh, he doesn't want to say. >> and say what the Rebbe said. Did the Rebbe say it himself? I think the Rebbe said that's what I heard. I don't remember if it was in my time. So we able to find just for drug besides one possuk that simply we had no clue uh there was there was a possuk that says le nikar shua lifnei dal. But it's a possuk that today I'm sure you know that possuk. Uh but uh we didn't know that possuk and when you hear the tape or whatever it is, it sounded to me at least maybe le nikar shual lifnei dog. And therefore uh there was no way to find it. I remember a story I always test bochurim. I tell them what's the first half possuk um vayam of meve asrim shana. I ask them what's the first half possuk of that possuk. I'm not going to test you. Yeah. Anyhow, so over there it says beshagom hu bosso. Vayam of meve asrim shana. On the tape there was someone once wrote a shtikel sicha from the tape and not being able to understand what the Rebbe says, he thought the Rebbe is saying and he put a question mark be shargon. He put a question mark. That could happen of course. Who knew p'sukim? The Rebbe once said about Rebbe Chover that the way he would know where a possuk is is because he would spot Gemaras in Sanhedrin. Yeah. Anyhow, so this was p'sukim. This was baruch Hashem we had a concordance. When it comes to my moreh chazal there was a three volume book called Michlal Amore Vapiskomim that already existed before my time. We also bought those three s'forim. The only problem is that in this volume you uh you have to know the lotion of the hazal. It's alphabetically ordered, but you have to know the sentence. And since the Rebbe usually would not say over hazal The whole thing. The whole thing of the sentence. So, it's quite hard. Later on we found out was another book ates of his government hazal I think in downstairs in the hater shame in the library of hater shame library of downstairs in 770, but we did we at that time didn't know about it. So, we had a lot of them. Then we had another book called ates of his government hazal I think it was called. Um It was called ates of that one was set up according also three volumes according to topics. So, you would go through the whole topic this era or another era. Maybe you were able to find it wasn't easy. Obviously the encyclopedia you have the past 30 years or so or more and say it didn't exist. At least we didn't know. I do remember that what you call today ates of was shouts of by by university, but it was something people didn't have. Only I think you should university here had that program. I remember that may show winner of the had a spawn in second would go to them to get stuff on for them. It was a lot of money, but you needed one word. They would print out 50 pages you had to pay cuz that word would mans was mentioned even though not necessarily needed everything. And I saw my hazal was much harder. Um Just rarely when it was a very hard hazal I would go up to the library upstairs in the cable in the back of 770. They had a very good library which was donated by the bulk area make a slavic little niche misses father that passed away I think base in an accident. And there was a lot of good swarm but we didn't really have access there but only from time to time there was also not time Everything was done under pressure of time to finish. Also the man became weren't done like momish everything. Now what whatever we knew. Yeah, I'm saying that >> Obviously things that the rabbit didn't say this is state or the classic We didn't even try to learn The rabbit sometimes helped you. Cuz in the rabbit will say state and say free Like a very often in the in the when the in the rabbit says where it is, right? Yeah but if the rabbit would say in say free First of all You have to have a say free. Yeah to scan them which say free say free How do you find it there? It's not always on the classic. Mhm. Um Uh concerning the here I have um We talked we talked before about the the so much here in the here It's kiss love the rabbit quoted the the way the rabbit said it on the tape the rabbit the rabbit told her According to the we found expression the rabbit the rabbit the rabbit told her and he He marks to the the where where it says is In the middle of the rabbit Happened to be that for bringing and after it was printed the rabbit Looked around and made a few corrections not my give it to me there and there. That happened often? Uh Sometimes not so many not so many times, no. Throughout all these years um It could be I don't know a few times we were so happy and the rabbit fixed simply I and I am base this really have a good morning. The rabbit says come out the rabbit told her so So, the expression was different. That's why I couldn't find it in the mirror. And now, so this is how we Now, we have to remind all other came is Um where do we look for them? The first of the year and the good seekers was given out by Munshine and the end of 11, which is the end of a year already doing seekers. The second volume came out Ershtein 1980 toff shimen. Um concerning uh So, there was no way to look. Like this, you could find where the rabbit seekers there is a stick of the year. In the back of a good seekers but it's not a good holiday. Could be considered a good year. It's like Now, um when you came to see this I think the only my friend I know is before your time. It's also my friend came is Yeah, they had Did you see the same thing I did? You will write my friend came is or you give it to someone else? You talking about I know it's at me me whoever worked that time would maybe was Gabriel Shapiro would look up and in the middle of the storm. The same thing again, you know. >> [snorts] >> Uh the the thing was also that besides looking at my friend came is you have to make sure that what you write in the seeker says in the book. The rabbit wants to remind you that he was screaming about all of Alice. Uh we learned from the rabbit. We never take my friend came is without looking inside. The rabbit always would look inside and never take even though he take my friend came is he knew all of them. But, he asked to check them out. Unless he would ask for a good take out a book from the shelf. The rabbit was there. The rabbit we learned from the rabbit. Uh obviously we knew most of my friend came is of the rabbit said I was actually all of the rabbit said we knew them already. We had that in the Humish from so many times saying it, but never did I, at least, say from uh Maran Mekan without looking uh inside. When it came to Sefiras, there was actually um much harder. I think there was one Maftecha, I read big book was printed that the Rebbe had of there the Maftechas he gave out of them based on whatever Sefiras he had in the time when he made that Maftecha. Uh maybe Tofshin Yud and another few of the Sefarim about Maftechas, Maftecha Yanim. Of course, we would ask someone like Rebbe Yael. It wasn't so easy uh to bother for things like this. Shaun Chaiton of maybe. Um Now, concerning asking the Rebbe uh I'll finish one case and go back to the technical. Uh Maran Mekan is, in general, of course, you didn't ask the Rebbe Maran Mekan. Not only Maran Mekan you didn't ask the Rebbe. Most, if you had a question, if you were able to get away without asking the Rebbe, we, of course, did not. The people that I don't know who did not ask. Of course, not Maran Mekan. It doesn't come into consideration. There were really times that uh either we asked the Rebbe, which means we didn't ask where this says. We gave in that page where that thing it says there with a question like on the side, asking Rebbe I want to show to the Rebbe, and you know, and uh important things. And sometimes it happened after the thing was printed, and something was saying there, and uh Maran Mekan middle was wrong or missing, and the Rebbe wrote on the side. For instance, um there are certain Maran Mekans where we had no choice, like it's not just a Rebbe says a um a Posik or something, a Posik Chazal, and by the way, like in the brocha, what the famous Rebbe's instruction that if you don't find take it out. This was for instance Rebbe said in the sicha of Shabbos Matzos Maseros Kodesh Matzos Matzain. The Rebbe said to state before that he spoke about because of His kindness of Moshiach the famous Gemara. And then then the Rebbe said, he continued finishing the sicha before that it says Don't let Hiskia Moshiach Hiskia Shemaya is another name for Moshiach is Moshiach that it says Dvei Hiskia that Moshiach is named Hiskia that Moshiach's name is Hiskia. Of course in the Gemara Sanhedrin we didn't find anything. We asked something the Rebbe. But that page we had to give in just that page itself the way it was ready to be printed and connection beginning and and the Rebbe added a bunch of lines. It's all most probably these everything is publicized. A whole thing just to leave what he said. Mhm. But he added that in Kisvei Arizal with the whole uh explanation to bring out that that there is why he said Don't let Hiskia that it should be like this. Basically the Rebbe said Huh? There is a makaf there. No, it says he's using the expression is based on the Kisvei Arizal but he's using it doesn't say in Gemara Sanhedrin famous Sugya. He's using the loshon of Sanhedrin. Uh for instance um in the Maimer this very interesting this already a Mar Makim that that they wrote in the Maimer uh Meshech Chochma I think Shabbos Nachsei Tof Shin Lamed Ches so the Rebbe says that Shisha Sidrei Mishna is um they come out from Shisha Midos the six series of Lemaylo. as the altar Rebbe brings in the Hagoyim Tanya. And they simply asked the Rebbe which Hagoy, you know. Not everyone was working Tanya. And the Rebbe said Huh? >> No Hagoyis of Tanya. >> No, I I could tell you one thing today most people uh the people who worked in the Rebbe's six of course know the Tanya upside down. Uh and then the Rebbe but it couldn't maybe maybe doesn't say exactly, I don't know. I didn't look it up. Now, the Rebbe answered Hashniya of the safe per mem. I'm referring to the second Hagoy in the end of per mem. There's a lot of Hagoyis there. Like there's a Mimer of Vayakhel Amekhres. And then interestingly enough, this was a weekly farbrengen as same like that one the whole shalom Amekhres. The Rebbe mentioned about something. He said, "Kiyodu the Biur Zeir in Biur Zeir." As known the explanation in Biur Zeir means the book Biur Zeir. Uh writing the Hanokha, the master found that it was easier in the Biur Zeir of the Tzemach Tzedek. And that's what it say from the rotten Mimer Kimuvor Biur Zeir let Tzemach Tzedek. And they put a footnote which page. But the Rebbe answered, "B'khiven leskarti let Tzemach Tzedek kinim tzu Biur Zeir stam be so fish nitzol the Adam Rebbe said, "I Rebbe says, 'On purpose I did not say that I'm referring to the Biur Zeir of Tzemach Tzedek but this inyan already exists in an earlier source in Biur Zeir of the Mitteler Rebbe which Rebbe said the Biur Zeir of Mitteler Rebbe is called Biur Zeir stam means the Mitteler Rebbe. And that's why he said Biur Zeir. And the Biur Zeir was printed by the Mitteler Rebbe. Here is for instance um a very very interesting uh uh thing that happened this Sicha also weekly from the tape. Um In Sicha of Purim Tof Shin Lamed Khes when they prepared the nocha in the sicha the Rebbe mentioned about uh something uh the way the way we printed the the the way we prepared the nocha we wrote machshirin mitzvah There's a sugia in Gemara Shabbos about bris milah machshirin mitzvah knife the things that prepared to the mitzvah. Uh anyhow and the Rebbe says uh vibavust the Rashi has known what Rashi says. I mean who is supposed to know what Rashi says which Rashi? And we asked the Rebbe and this surprisingly enough the Rebbe asked lehatik mehat tape shuras hakodesh shana al benson please copy and send me in the few lines from the tape the way I spoke which this thing is in the middle of those few lines. I without thinking twice I ran fast I took my uh reshumah of the tape that I typed. I typed over those 10 lines gave it to the Rebbe without I guess the people had to look didn't look and didn't realize there was any difference. And the Rebbe circled around that word-for-word transcript from the tape and he write he writes I didn't say machshirei I said hechsher mitzvah and it say it say in the the the Rashi is in your vomis vov dalet kuf mem kuf >> hechsher. No we by mistake wrote machshirei. We had no clue cuz obviously we looked in mesachet Shabbos. No I'm saying in the in the nocha of the in the in the transcript of the tape you wrote hechsher? On the tape the Rebbe said but we did we didn't pay attention. There's a machshirei mitzvah in mesachet to say the maratzes hechsher mitzvah is a mistake. But the Rebbe was kind of of must have been surprised. I got to see what did I say? And uh we gave it in the Rebbe says here around. I said not machshirim. >> in the in the transcript it did say hashka. He said properly and then the Rebbe and the Rebbe said this is the rash where it felt the rash and vomit, you know. Um A few of the interesting things >> Who is writing all of this? Rabbi Feldman? Um Yes. This is those years everything is throughout all the years besides a short time that the rash were written by David Olidort. And so who's writing to the Rebbe all these things? Uh yes yes. In the mymorn would it would be Tzvi Greenwald or Tzvi Greenblatt. In the sichos would be of David Feldman. Of course sometimes he would talk it over with uh with Rabbi Yair or with other people. Uh again we only he would only ask questions that you you you can't write. It's basic things that's negate to the bill. Uh Talking about the Rebbe's corrections uh there's also very interesting uh asach heiliker zach. The Rebbe is a heiliker mensch besides everything. The main thing is the Rebbe is a heiliker yid. And for instance here was a mymer shuva Yisrael taf shin mem. Uh the mymer the Rebbe was magiah was not even given in double space was given in single space. Like kind of anacha protis without mym and kaimis was written by Rabbi Elkan. And the Rebbe mentioned you know the posik anochi anochi yomech avshai'cho l'mani. Uh the Ribono shel Olam wipes off the sins and then says it says twice anochi and then goes l'mani. And there's explanation in sichos what's the anochi anochi and what's l'mani. Uh you know when you copy a posik all together two words why would you take them out for two words to write a gamer? So the way it was written anochi anochi anochi yomech avshai'cho l'mani. It was twice written in that page. The rabbit circle them around both and took them out. The two words make up instead we should put in a game and I wrote on the side The only a matter of purpose. I did not say those two words. If I may add simple explanation. This was Russia now. It wasn't necessary for the beer. Also was Russia now. Russia now you don't mention anything of in the diving of of a sham things like this. I don't know. Um There's a famous one also that they wrote Mogadishu mayor. This is a Mogadishu. Yeah, another one but my pastor in the garden. Yeah, that one is very famous. Which again How you supposed to write a sentence? You can't blame people right. What are you going to write? You have a double Right. What? But The whole thing is the way it is. If they never quote you know a few words from the other they'll write the whole thing. Not the whole you write minimum complete sentence something. Yeah, you wouldn't think it would make a make a difference even in Mogadishu. As as we know by the way another thing as we know Um that The rabbit we learned it from the rabbit. When you make corrections you do not erase the name. You circle the round and take it out. Also The rabbit never erased the name of a person. Even with the rabbit will take out his For other people I've seen uh Um tough all that. We mentioned names and there's that all the stories all the about Um beautiful the rabbit and the mayor of the of the Senate. The rabbit take out names. He wouldn't erase them. Here is very interesting holy one. That the mayor the rabbit wanted to take out the words at some you know this is not the name that you're not supposed to erase it's not a person's name at some what do we know what that is the rabbit did not erase it twice he just took it out circle it around and take it out to the side um concerning and there's something you say this is a concerning mama came is um so the rabbits sometimes they would say if you don't find it whatever something you got to take it out if you don't find the for instance here I have a mood of the commander this is the mind I think there's love kiss love tough show mouth came out the country of the mama over there in the mind of it says the rabbit says as as my father Freddy writes that all also woman are obligated learning this obviously there was a number there but in those years there was no way in the world to find it I think I went to Weinberg says he remembers that there was in Poland whether it was in somewhere letters to Freddy the rabbit but there was no way for us it was much years before the years came to start coming out where you going to go search for that was left empty and the rabbit wrote yes me need fast Alboni is very good at advice that I said there is a printed letter to to nice Israel in Riga the head organization we know now today everything is there there was organization nice about in Riga and Freddy and the letter was printed in those years but doesn't mean anything it still existed in our time for sure not maybe in the rabbit's library in the rabbit's library but the rabbit wrote beam the him too if you don't find the Mar'eh Makom, Yashmit to take out the whole Ha'arah, and also the number. Don't forget to take out the number. Don't leave a number inside which refers to the bottom." And then they wrote to the Rebbe, they found of some letter, similar letter, something. But the Rebbe said, "This is not what he's talking about, cuz it doesn't mention about learning Chassidus. It's a letter to the to the bonus figure about their activities, but it doesn't say that they're obligated to learn Chassidus." The Rebbe says, "No, take out the Ha'arah." I would like to um Okay, well, since we're in Mar'eh Makom, I wanted to go back to some technos. We'll continue. Uh Here's a very interesting Klalus DeKay instruction, a general instruction uh by the Rebbe concerning Mar'eh Makom. In the Sichos Motza'ei Shabbos Kisei Sorah, Tavshin Lamed Tes, again, it's from a tape. Uh the Rebbe says there, he spoke about the famous Moshel, the Rebbe calls it always the Moshel of the lever, the thing that you lift, that you want to lift a lift a building, you start from the bottom. Then you could lift the whole the top floor, also. But the Rebbe mentioned there that Moshel of of lifting a Binyan from the bottom, and he connected it with Chodesh Tishrei. But the question was whether the source what the Rebbe is referring to is the famous Maimer in Te'er in the beginning of Te'er, or in Likutei Torah itself, in which it says differently. Over there it says, doesn't say lever, it says a different word in in in jargon, something. So the Rebbe answered there as follows. He says, "In when you Tzeichel, when you make Mar'eh Makom," says the Rebbe, "there are several categories, and there several Kavanos, intentions, what the Rebbe has when he Tzeichels a Mar'eh Makom, or he says in the Farbrengen. One reason for Mar'eh Makom, Kipshutei Mekaireh but past this he wanted to take him where is the source of what you said the past this. The second one is the camera saying and I'll see in the morning. You want to expand and deepen the understanding of by taking to a place that I have says in that case not necessarily do I take him where it says like this I could be taking to a point for cat. I shoot the office opposite which from there you could take out a detail or the cloud something additional. I we all remember sometimes I have to bring the best of the bringing that the on purpose take him to the good seekers. I'm a lot more concerned that says the opposite to see if people will will catch. And uh there was something um The never said it's a very interesting thing it's concerning about uh uh the kids zoom The never said something of citizen vote in a certain explanation. And uh they asked the never that the kids zoom the Tanya in the famous letter of the Frederick printed in the safer kids zoom the Tanya it says something differently wasn't actually the only time that we asked the never that here you spoke like this and here you spoke differently so the never answered I am pouring the 70 ways to learn Torah and you people found in this case two and you're surprised there is two. I remember there's a a similar thing that the the good review it so there's a partial ache of I think it's the first time the never was spoken of good review it so it was then the never that piece was tough to have this. And learn how to learn how to learn how to learn how to learn how to um And the never said it's a beautiful Kabbalah then another year the never said differently. And we asked a question that says over there differently. 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Maybe today it is but you know definitely wasn't then to have this matter of this matter of this. Yeah, actually not only the idea of making this is much the Rebbe's way. Also the style how to say in this matter of this. Like that you make the chapter a comma and then the basic is like Bubba and people like this more modern people that made the work properly. They are the ones who did them started to say technical way they did very good books. When it comes to sources of things. So what about um What about others from the whatever? Answers from the Rebbe about but like the signal in the way that this is written and things like that. Um The Rebbe wanted that anything written it doesn't matter what he spoke. What you what you're writing is for people to read to publicize. It has to be written well in a organized way. A beginning and end. Things should make sense. And one of the things the Rebbe didn't like when it it looked to him that um what was written is kind of very close to a a word towards the transcript even though this was written in Lashon Kodesh, a few samples here, and one of them a ma'amorim that the Rebbe uh was magi'at. But the Rebbe wrote on top that the ma'amor is signon mavel. Hotokas milo bemilo mamish vechulu. That the way it was written, the the signon, the style of writing is shocking. And in parentheses, there is practically copied word for word of of the tape, I guess. Actually, that ma'amor, because of the Rebbe being so um so sharp about it, uh even though the Rebbe was magi'at thoroughly, we did not print it. We asked that time Reb Laibel Altein, he was the model for sichos, to um rewrite it. It was done, but it was given in again, but uh most probably the Rebbe doesn't have time to work twice on something. So that ma'amor was never put out with the Rebbe's hagahos? >> Uh I think later on in the Torahs Menachem, they put it in in the sofs. Uh they added all the Rebbe's corrections into the ma'amor the way it's written well. Mhm. Uh some other ma'amor, this is the ma'amor in the ma'amor Tilo'echem, Lechem Min Hashamayim from Tav Shin Lamed Zayin, the Rebbe kind of commented it wasn't prepared by Reb Yael. The Rebbe commented "Loshon Hakodesh muzar, it's written in in in a strange Loshon Kodesh." You're talking about ma'amorim that the Rebbe was magi'at. This is This is a different topic than hanachos. No, No, I'm talking Reb ma'amorim that the Rebbe was magi'at in the years of the sichos, not in the project of the ma'amorim which started in Tav Shin Mem Vov. I'm talking So sometimes >> there. >> So sometimes the Rebbe would take a hanacha of the ma'amorim and decide to to magiah on his own. The There was two ways. Yeah, it happened sometimes that hanacha was given in. And lucky enough, we didn't think to give it in my gear. We didn't have the chutzpah. In that case, we would have to type it kill double space, make it easier, make better my mom came is. Uh but most times we didn't do that. From time to time, it was a special my mother of Yale would come and decide to write up the my mother and give it in to the Rebbe. Sometimes Rebbe would magiah, sometimes not. Uh but some sometimes the Rebbe wanted to be magiah my mother were good or not good. He was magiah but he wasn't so happy. And and this my mother uh the Rebbe added the word hanacha but was obvious that Rebbe meant to be magiah. And we did give it in and the Rebbe put the date on the passel d'Ovo. Um In general, there's a lot of times that the Rebbe's expression concerning his agos Rebbe would say that when I fix, it doesn't mean that was after I fix, this is good. Like here's one expression and our explanation on Rashi that was written up based on the Rebbe's answers. And the Rebbe wrote the signum, the style of writing is musafani. Vishma tati, I took out kamucha yes, I only fix the most important, which means when the Rebbe fixes, it doesn't mean that the whole thing is completely good. I mean, it's mugadik, it's printed. Um Here's interesting of things that um And this is referring to hanachas that that had some agos. >> is hanacha. Here's even in the mugadik of my mother that were prepared and according to the Rebbe of the Rebbe beginning after Simchas Torah, Rebbe Groner given over to Rebbe Elkan, he was the maniah. The Rebbe wanted it should give him in the my mother. After the heart attack. That they should give him in uh the my mother see his and in the mind of friends of Rome talking I saw it of in English the Rebbe says as this and this get a divine way brings out the specialty of a worm the way they wrote it in Hebrew it's expressed as my love and the Rebbe said on it I mean I don't know if you would have another way to to write over those words in in in in in Yiddish in Russian K dish but the Rebbe wrote in it and named solution the doctor you ever find this expression miss body in cities uh something similar which we all know in a a lot of the my mom the beginning of the paragraph is the zero Mhm. and it's normal language but here was a minor the state should have shame came out in top of shame him that the Rebbe circled around in two paragraphs over there it says the zero gamma shy this also the the connection now mind you shy is Russian the cave up but nobody wrote in the my mom the zoo he it's like you know we're not used that with the Rebbe's say I'm not going to say >> what was zero gamma shy not the zoo he why would I have the zoo he usually see this is a zero but the Rebbe commented on the two times the zero gamma shy in two paragraphs one after the other he circled it and he writes like this so you shall lay my brain could do something with Russian Russian there's a whole so you can begin with doing about the difference something that is written in Russian of so Russian the cave up and to those people they couldn't care about it I'm sure that time they they fixed it the zoo he was very unusual to write in a Mimer of the Zui. And listen, I was going to say that you do see it. I guess it was afterwards, after the story. >> Mr. Mimer, it could be for also, but usually What happened? Do you remember what the Biel changed Misbater? I don't remember. It could be checked right away. In the Mimer, but [clears throat] I I didn't check at this moment. And one of the Sichos, now concerning the way to write a translation. And this is very important for today's day. Well, people are giving out, supposedly, a Hanacha. A transcript from tape is something else. When you make a Hanacha in Hebrew, and you write word for word, here's what the Rebbe wrote. And one of the Sichos of the of our earlier years, I'm talking about Lamed Vov, those years. I said several times that the Kavana, the intention of Hatocha, of copying something, is Sheyavinu Techan Hameduber, the people should understand the contents of what was spoken. Velay Diyuk Bahtoch Behetech There's no point in being exact, copying word for word. Which once you do that, the Mamer ain't the Klaus Sichos It creates not a normal Sicha that could be read. It's rather a Reshima Hatocha Stavis. It's a list, a Reshima where you copied words. It's not [clears throat] a Sicha anymore. It's not readable. The Muchrach the Rebbe says there's a must that you should translate Chofshis, free translation, what's called. Validay Zaid, this has to be done by someone who knows the language and the Dikduk to write it properly, and someone who knows the language of Michtavei Torah, writing things of tailor, not of newspapers. What's the lotion? Yes. What's the lotion? The lotion of the camera camera poem cover talker should you be new. Take it on the double the lady you got the hectic middle of the middle should be mellow in the class seeker the clear came regime at talker status or more should you take off shoes while you days there should you deal a hack with the Google of the signal make to the tailor the lady make to the meeting. I want to go back a little bit um to um to the technical uh part. Uh in all those years from when we started uh and all those that mean from 12 till the end of them till the end of them A good friend of mine are you vice would be the typist. Those were typewriters of course till the end of them 1987 there were no computers at least that time started them as those were a different kind but I'm talking about the regular. So it was a typewriter he would sit uh and all those were done in the day he would sit the whole night or whatever it is 12 hours non-stop not practically not getting up from his chair. He was a good typist. Um and then um later on the size of the all the years was 8 and 1/2 by 11. And you would staple it in the corner. Um one time sometimes the end of tough shin lamed zayin the shmad matzoh matzoh sometimes that time Um Reb Avraham Shem Tov had come back from Poland. He was sent by the Rebbe to get out the Friediker Rebbe's library. When he came back, he um he the library arrived later. The Rebbe went to before the Rebbe came out of 770 Kislev he went to South anybody's seeing just a few people to the library to check it. Um the Rebbe Reb Avraham Shem Tov met the Rebbe I guess by the room. The Rebbe gave him a matana the hanacha the maimer of Shabbos matzoh matzoh with the sicha and the maimer the Rebbe brought with kedish Boruch Hashem Shabbos kedish chazon tough shin lamed zayin and signed his name. And the Rebbe told him was looking at Shabbos Erev Shabbos when we heard that the sicha which we didn't consider our nochos to be anything kind of embarrassed. It was done for the people. When we heard that the hanacha is so chashuv that the Rebbe gives it and signs his name on it we decided we're going to change the size make it a more normal acceptable size not a page like this 8 and 1/2 by 11 but a pamphlet. And the Rebbe was asked like to give it out the Rebbe exactly Rebbe what size do you want to make it like the regular size of of the which is a little bit bigger than 8 and 1/2 by 11 folded something like this taking 8 and 1/2 by 11 folded. Um the Rebbe did not agree but something the Rebbe wrote something like uh It seemed the Rebbe agreed to part of it but not fully. We already had asked the Rebbe so then we decided to um to ask the Rebbe and we wrote everything the sizes everything was written to the Rebbe how it's going to look and we started making it from then which is from Shabbos to be off cuz we found out that information a little bit later, the forbringers started coming out in the size was called a 6 by 9 actually. >> [clears throat] >> Uh, 6 and 1/2 by 9 and 1/2 this so if you have not 6 kids you have the original ones that were bound in 10 days. Ma'am, from the third volume of of of 10 days a different size you were publishing also then. That's what's interesting now, but it's all by the end of the year. Practically. People that bought by us done here. Every time came out came up to us. The brothers the single seekers. And if you were missing something if we still had it we put in. And we took all the seekers put them together practically you would have the seeker the workers name written on top of each seeker. And we gave it to those cats book binding the famous book binding in Williamsburg. They did the cedar they would do everything you needed something nice with a hard cover binding was very expensive was each book was done by hand. And we bound it for the book of the same thing 10 days 10 days. After that never was there a complete year. 10 days also missing a little bit. Uh. But the came this was still done inside the seeker in in parentheses. Which disturbs the reading which as everyone knows. Also when you write the inside you can't write. A lengthy or two days you have to make it as short as possible. It doesn't let you. >> that done cuz the typewriter you can't do it in the bottom? No, first of all it wasn't easy to look when you look today they're giving out now all the seekers from the early years the the Amelia. They in base. After even the was magid they typed everything put in the inside till later start doing on the bottom. How do you make on a typewriter a guess on the bottom? Um, it's not easy. You have to calculate how much text to type on top, which means you first type up the bottom came is separately. And you keep on typing the inside and keep on putting on the bottom your page. Measuring, do I still have time to add another line inside so it should fit on the bottom. The bottom came is for inside at that time happened to be after the for bringing of Kadala Davis of Shalam at which the Rebbi spoke that time about uh about Premier Prime Minister Begin. And uh the for bringing came out of that meme. A while little bit later the Rebbi was my gear the whole for bringing. And we should give it out in a Madura Basta. I don't think maybe it was given out with us nothing print. So we redid retyped the whole for bringing. Took out the words and set meme built in the back of the cover. We added big words Madura Basta. And I if I'm not mistaken the Rebbi not see her marked off that we should put down the bottom came is you put numbers we should put them on the bottom. It was another seeker like this. I don't understand it. So why was the Madura Basta? No, the Rebbi after it was printed the Rebbi meme built in the back of the Rebbi was my gear the whole for bringing. That's Madura Basta, okay. So but we didn't give it in typesetting. I'm sorry to explain. We didn't do it typesetting like regular like could see her to count whatever. We just retyped it on a typewriter the whole for bringing. Why didn't he do like could see her? Maybe we I don't remember now if it was there off from the Rebbi or that it wasn't whatever not always were things clear or sometimes for instance there were times the Rebbe was Magia a few ago and the Mimer the Rebbe going to say no, this is not to be printed. He called it the Rebbe's Magia provisory, means just to enable move, not fully, just Sometimes we did we used the the famous saying when a person gives you a finger, you grab the whole hand. If the Rebbe made a few corrections, we took the guts and typeset and gave it in. If we're lucky, the Rebbe put his stamp on it and here you have a Maggid Shiur the Mimer. That one we retyped it and we put the hours on the bottom, but we used for each one a separate line. Shortly thereafter, we decided that we got to start doing the all the Hanachas with the Mamakim on the bottom, but of course we made the Mamakim typed consecutively like one with the Mamakim and then two. And the same thing, we type up a whole page or two with all the Mamakims and our revise, we keep on typing the Sichan measure to see how much do I have to leave to be able later to to type up on the bottom what I typed already there, it should fit in. Um and but that was also a issue. Unlike the the the what's give coming out now, the first answer to see taking lots of down taking down lots of what it means to see those green pamphlets, how did you make a number for a footnote? You have to type a number, leave the tiny bit the roll of the typewriter so that how much rule would higher, but the numbers are very big. We couldn't have this, so we went and to a printer to whatever was Empire Press or the who smile in your Mr. Goldberg and they typed us up a sheet of numbers from 1 to 200 or to 300. We took that sheet and made very sharp good photocopies of it and then we would um we had a machine called a waxer. We'd put in wax, it was plugged in, it would melt the wax. That's how the old discourses were done. How do you paste the columns on the bottom of the orders? It didn't come like this from the computer till who knows when. So, we would the same before print it would be stuck on. >> Yeah, you Yeah, sure. You figure out you The guy would have the whole roll of the sicha on his shoulder. Take a look, how much fits inside, how much the other one came is, where do I stop? And like this kept on pasting it on. So, we did the same, and we would have to cut the numbers tiny, each number took up very little place, exactly no space, there's a special knife for that, and carefully take that number with our finger with a nail and put it on there and press it down hard, it shouldn't fall off. And by typing we didn't leave a whole space empty, we would leave You go to type with a halfway back to um to uh leave enough space. If it's one number, two numbers, and like this the whole sicha. And of course, if you sometimes later after it was printed or even before, if you weren't careful, the number would fall off. And we'd end up having a sicha It It actually happened once. This was a a interesting story that um One second. The Nobody The hanacha started having them on the bottom? >> Yes, from that fabrengen on, right after the happened the story the Rebbe's magiach of the Alter Rebbe's lamid ches, so we started making small pamphlets in as I said in tav shin That's why it's printed It's like a skaydis it's printed like that? Yeah, the big pages they enlarged it, but of course it's like this. Maybe some But they already printed from a printed one, numbers couldn't fall off. The original was it was a problem. >> happened? So, the number fell off? Uh No, it happened one This Okay, happens happens. It happened once a sicha that the Rebbe suddenly chof cheshvan tav shin mem the Rebbe asked that he wants to be magiach the fabrengen. The fabrengen yet wasn't written up. It was written up the whole hanacha written up by Reb Dovid Feldman, typed, but by the typist he was only up to like the first 10-15 pages and as it is they didn't want to wait. We gave him in the part that was already a photocopy of the part that was already typed up nice and the rest was a double-spaced the way it is typed with the came inside and the Reb actually got the whole thing but we didn't realize I mean we wouldn't even think it was not so we should give him right away. That the 10-15 pages that were given to the Reb the typed ones it was the wasn't finished so there were no numbers there there were footnotes on the bottom with numbers and the Reb wrote there laying this one with me more comments to you and it's missing inside the secret where the where belongs the number. We didn't realize that all even if we would we couldn't hold it back to do it Um because you do my comments at the end. No but but before he starts typing >> are put in later. >> Yeah the last thing where you finish the whole secret you start pasting in. Yeah. Uh at the time there was That's how I do it today too. What? Today too you wait to the last version till you uh Yeah no you could make before then you take gets updated automatically everything. >> complicated. Okay whatever yeah. It depends if if you work with Word everything is automatic the one reason I still work with Word even though nobody does this cuz it updates the numbers it shouldn't be a mistake. In the other program tag I don't know what it is today tag um when you make a double number in Word it has cross-reference. Mhm. You catch the same number. In their program sometimes you see there's a double number which is the wrong one cuz later numbers were were added and all the numbers got advanced but this number stayed uh the wrong one. Okay we'll uh we'll go back um and now more of the secret is even before the Contreras of the winter what called Contreras the safer came out called here of option even before that the Rebbe would from time to time make a sicha. When the Rebbe is making a sicha the Rebbe adds mama came as a gillion or on the on the pages with mama came as well by the end. And the way you add it is with a star or with two stars or with three stars. Then later you have to straighten it out. Actually when you look at the sichas the time before computers there are mama came as with stars cuz the Rebbe added and there was no way to retype set the whole sicha cuz the numbers changed. It would cost too much money. But since you could always see in a sicha when there's a star you could figure that the one with the star is not the horror that the Rebbe added but another one. They didn't want people to know which horror the Rebbe added. They would change around a lot of a few numbers. So but you could recognize always which one is the Rebbe's, which one is not. >> So the star But the Rebbe didn't like the stars. Isn't a star like a horror on the horror? That's a shula a gillion. On the horror a shula gillion there there's no choice. Mostly it's one star, two stars, three stars. But at least the numbers inside on all the horrors should be the Rebbe insisted we should straighten out, take out the kaholvim. The Rebbe didn't like it. Yes. Um This sicha is full of stars. In what? Cuz this sicha is full of stars. In those years there was no way to do it. It was it was before computers. Mhm. Um I'm talking about before even when Word came out, when Word came out I think tofshendalt even when MS-DOS came out, but still the way the sichas were done MS-DOS was looked like a typewriter. It spread it out. It wasn't typeset. It was still done by a machine called AM Varityper. The machine costed $100,000. Uh hm. You say it's impossible It would be too much work. Right, to redo the whole to redo everything. That's But if there would be a lot of Kechovim, I guess they would redo. Um So, for instance, and the Rebbe also And as all the years, the Rebbe knew there's nobody responsible kind. He has to take care of all the technical things. Not I mean, the Rebbe could have known already the most probably, but he didn't rely on it. So, for instance, my Ma'amar Chaggah Osif Mem Gimel, which came out Muggedik Eish Tof Shin Mem Zayin, the Rebbe wrote on top, "Levatlah Kechovim." Take out the stars. Ulahachnisam Beseder. Put them in in proper order. As hard as One, two, three should be one with a star. Also, after the Rebbe's Maggid the first time, Reb Yisrael would add more things that's uh based on what the Rebbe fixed. He would have to ask at this or at that or and so on. So, it was tons of stars. Like >> Asterisk. What? >> It's called an asterisk. Asterisk, yeah. Gave it to me. Yeah, yeah, you said it. Good machine. I'm sorry I didn't go to all the Torahs. I don't speak English. I never >> [laughter] >> Um And again in that same Ma'amar which came out for Sukkos Tof Shin Mem Zayin, the Kuntres Sukkos Mem Zayin, in the Pesach Dover again, the Rebbe wrote not the stuff in the paper attached, again, "Levatlah Kechovim." Again, remind us, remember take out the Kechovim and make the numbers one after the other. There was a uh uh uh issue with the Maram Kaimis that especially >> when So when the Rebbe's my gear sichos was all done through Vad Hanacha basically. Uh yeah, but >> The Rebbe has a say to the sichos that's separate and then the Hanacha's the the farbrengens >> farbrengens >> Yes. >> doing it through >> It happened really here and there that they were busy with the sichos that happened on Rosh Hashanah sichos of Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin uh the famous sicha about the Tamchut Mim uh 80 years Chayol Tof Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin whatever it is how many years that of Tamchut Mim The Rebbe spoke a Maram Kaimis sicha in the summer uh Rosh Hashanah >> Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin was 80 years. 80 years The Rebbe spoke a sicha I think. Gadia whatever the famous and that time Rubashkin prepared it so they prepared it. >> So once in a while the Vad Hanacha did it. >> If if they would prepare it really happened they they were busy enough. Um So the Rebbe would ask to now the Maram Kaimis especially when it was Maram Kaimis that Rebbe's my gear so the Maram Kaimis were very small just every number was like a possuk a small Maram Kaimis. And especially when the Maram Kaimis is is a full column it's not two columns of sichos it looks on the bottom it's all empty. And the Rebbe didn't like it he wanted the Maram Kaimis should go b'zeh u'va'zeh one after the other. For instance um sicha yud seegel l'amitas was a a yechidus to talmidim from Bais Sefer l'havdalah going back to Eretz Yisrael. Not only did the Rebbe say the Rebbe went to himself it was the typed one before the typesetting. He went with a pen attached every end of the previous hora'ah to the next one. Every hora'ah like the 20 hora'ahs or so that were there he attached them. Uh for instance even in the later nisan tough shmim, erev shishi of pesach, so in this gimel nisan tough shmim, the rebbe wrote and the hardest zeh achal zeh, one after the other, consecutively, one next to the other. V'lay b'shuros v'natzum. And then again, shortly thereafter, since the rebbe thought might not do it, the rebbe wrote not in separate lines, if you're making it in a format cotton, which means either you're going to print uh, children's sikhs come out a little booklet, which is also wide. Uh, then they had asked the rebbe that what they're giving in is actually they're making it the regular wide format, like a regular sikhs and all could sikhs. A full width of um, 26 spikers, if you know what that is. And therefore, they asked the rebbe, could they leave the mamre kames like this? And the rebbe says, no, since you're not doing in two columns, but two columns doesn't look empty. Actually, I think tough shin nun dalet already existed uh, a program for Word, little bit later, that was called um, hamesif, for Word was a guy in Williamsburg. He would sell for them, he sells, he sells also deits achachma, a lot of these programs for years. Existed a program, but uh, we at least didn't even have all the years that program. So, the rebbe wrote that since it's in one, not in two columns, so you should still do the mamre kames was zeh achal zeh. Now, we're going to go to the so-called keta of the sikh, the part of the sikh the rebbe spoke about shlemus ha'aretz or other topics, not um, directly rashi biurim sikhs and the world the world the world leader topics. >> It started siani of tough shin lamed ches. Uh, the first time the rebbe spoke about that the Rebbe spoke about speaking about Eretz Yisrael was Motzei Shabbos Lech Lecha. I think even a Shabbos before the Rebbe started speaking about building mikvahs, but it wasn't so And you spoke before that the Rebbe never spoke about general things. >> Yeah, but it was. It was, but not so Look, in in the years of Beis Hamikdash, every farbrengen the Rebbe spoke about Me Yudi. But those things, first of the farbrengens, mostly didn't come out. And mind you I don't even think Rebbe Yoel Kamby Chazara ever chazared those sichos. Uh he didn't. He didn't, and people that said that when Rebbe Yoel didn't chazer, nobody else is going to chazer in front of Rebbe Yoel that day. That's that's obvious. Um When Rebbe Yoel says sometimes he stops, he would ask whether it was Yossi Erlich or whatever I'm talking about, even the later years. Uh Sholom Mordechai Rubashkin, Yoel Feldman. Usually Rebbe Yoel would say, "If you didn't chazer um nobody was going to say, 'Okay, now this sicha I'm going to say.' This didn't exist. He was the chazer. They wouldn't have the chutzpah to do it either. And also it started The Rebbe started speaking about the matzav in Eretz Yisrael. And that part, of course, would go in in the hanacha. By doing in in all the time later, this part could have been a half hour. Two or three times later on that the part about Shleimus Ha'aretz was 45 minutes, over an hour. And even in in the time when it was 45 minutes, sometimes it could have been that in quantity, in amount of pages, the sicha about Shleimus Ha'aretz would amount to half of the amount of a whole farbrengen. But this was part of the farbrengen. We did it. Sometimes before Purim Lamitzei Khes uh Rebbe Chodakov approached uh one of us and gave us over that the Rebbe said, I mean obviously the name of the Rebbe that what the Rebbe speaks about Eretz Yisrael, it was a does not belong in the Hanukkah. To us this was the end of the world. It's like was a Yuma, a decree uh that we're not going to put in big part of the farbrengen. So we asked him, I mean, how are the people in the world going to know what the Rebbe spoke? So he says, those that need to know will know. I I guess he was referring to someone once Shabbos calling first the way recordings that he referred to someone uh calling after Shabbos and giving over to to Berel Levov, which was the spokesman. And now we we somehow uh kind of begged for life. We and we suggested that we're not going to put it in in that part of farbrengen, but separately as a ketter. Actually this is called It's called in every farbrengen you go over the back starting from 2006 you have the whole farbrengen after that ketter and sichos. It starts from where the politics I'm starting to call it politics from where the sicha of some sort of Eretz Yisrael. And it actually with the avid it helped because um like this you could finish the farbrengen much faster. You could leave the ketter for a month later, you know, when you have time. It start didn't stop giving out the farbrengen. Interesting enough that already of dollar tables 2006 I'm sorry sorry about tables the first time the Rebbe spoke divrei kodesh and uh at that time already the Rebbe was magiah the part about Eretz Yisrael. The Rebbe but the Rebbe says not to put it in. Yeah. But we most probably thought that because it's the sicha's coming out Muga, the Rebbe doesn't want the Muga to the sicha. That should be it should be we I think we typed it up separately as without the word Hanukkah built to Muga. The Rebbe spoke about Eretz Yisrael divrei kodesh a bunch of times. Every time in in the memos it like There was sometimes by the by the 10 days the rabbit avoid like cuz I had a good talk with the stuff but every time you know it's it was rubbish. It was always like that. It was always separate. Yeah. From then on it started being separate in Hanukkah Satmar. Uh when when the rabbit would add sometimes in Soviet Kaddish uh appears like they ask the question and then they understand and the rabbit would answer kind The reason also is because I I didn't say everything and the rabbit would add a whole piece. And sometimes the rabbit would give the instruction that this piece you should put it in put it out in Yiddish. Write up as normal part because it's it's a major part of the bill. But on the other hand it happened for instance in what's the Shabbos I saw the matter. Which was a weekday for bringing. And uh a paragraph was prepared important paragraph to the understanding of the secret prepared based on the rabbit's answers in Soviet. And that time the rabbit wrote how are you actually it's the camera camera tape. Exclamation mark several people have a tape. How could you add this piece of secret here? Uh there's a tape and therefore the rabbit says call an owl all above. You should add in a whole written of course in Russian Kaddish hours. And the kids cuz it's not a horror. I have a question. Yes. All these answers you have them or other people had them? I everything written here I have photocopies. So you kept everything from then basically. What do you mean if The people in Hanukkah's got the rabbit's secret other copies from the maskers. No, they got to always like Soviet Kaddish. Here and there maybe something tiny. Um Never even got to us that the Rebbe was Magia. So someone has all these uh answers to the >> Yes. Yes, I'm sure. When you Yeah, I have mostly I have copies most not everything. I mean uh Mind you there were no copy machines. I don't have to tell you that. Uh maybe there is. Forget about mosquitoes. We when we used to print the sichos ourselves there was a plate maker. It wasn't metal plates with negatives. It was a machine like copy machine that had a roll of thermal paper it's called. But that was not the regular copies with thermal paper. It's a kind of copies that you you open it up after a few years it's gone all what what was written on it. That's one issue. But for the printing this was a plate a heavier roll that you would make a picture of the page and that you would put on another machine. But since that wasn't metal it was only able to print a few hundred before it disintegrates it falls apart. Uh but that's too much of the technical things. Um Uh Concerning the Pesach Davars of the Mugadish Sichos used to be a style we copied what was in the olden years. We'd type up whatever and the regular lotion used to be that um would be that would be the paragraph was saying that it seemed like we hereby give out this in the sicha the Rebbe said this and this farbrengen. Next paragraph would say that um that the Kodesh shlita the Rebbe added how is it came as how by mishloach which come on the on the bottom. Uh the bottom. Um in Marshall Tushin Lamid Ches Basukis Tayshu, which is the My Rebbi David that we all know that Rebbi David chill hit Tishrei. Usually the My Sukis Rebbi David Rebbi Sukis that time actually Tishrei after that was never the curtains and Simchas Torah the heart attack. Um but in that sicha The Rebbi The Rebbi give all the dates for all the Pesach Davars. You tried to get the date which here is in order to give the date you gave him the Pesach Davar when you gave him the gallus for the second time. But at a later stage uh when it was only one ago you had to remember always to give in the Pesach Davar when you're giving in the first time. And therefore uh much later sichas not from uh not from my time and also not from Lahak uh from Anach Sat Maim from the later years uh some of them I could imagine that uh I'm just guessing that the date is not even the Rebbe's. Cuz uh they never managed to give in the in the the He Magazine we we have the date in the Pesach Davar in the editorial. So we we always use uh a date that the Rebbe gave. Oh, yeah. >> I'm sure it sends me a date every month for when we got to print. That's how That's how we do it. It's very nice. It should be so heilig sh'beheilig. I'm happy to hear that. And I must be the Rebbe took out that time the whole paragraph, took it out. Uh even though the Rebbe did put Horas Mam Kaimus whatever reason he didn't want to write them from then they stopped. But we stopped it on the Kuntreisim but when suddenly the Rebbe was Magia Maimer Mishpatim Lamid Ches unusual so this already not what they send in the Kuntreisim. So we and that thing stayed again. Back then for instance by Purim cotton we realized that we took it out but then later here and there because not always the the pressure of work was that sometimes we didn't remember what happened. When the work so pressured that when you're doing next thing you forgot what happened yesterday because you can't see working This is the way it was. Um At the time later I saw a passover already much later. Mug and shimon Zion that the Rebbe corrected that paragraph. It said again the Rebbe was making the sicker and the Rebbe fixed this as follows. He said okay let's take out his name and he wrote letter Alice the limit for the benefit of the reader and learner. The moment came is come on the bottom. See nothing to do to him. Um several things about the the my morning I'm talking about before the project of the my morning. For instance the my morning bus and Zion um was prepared according to the Rebbe's instruction the Rebbe said the my morning of Shabbos and and the my morning of Shabbos and the Rebbe gave instruction that the my morning inside should be the one that was said more Everyone was able to see and hear to hear. And the Shabbos the one that things he said Shabbos should be put on the bottom. And sweet green will prepare it like this wasn't easy we had to type up name bottom and then the my morning came is on the bottom calculate everything where this number goes for here like we have my morning my morning came is going to work for the plane for the my morning bus keep track. And we didn't think the Rebbe was going to be Magid that moment. It was typed up regular in the small format, which was uh the Maimuna always like a it's called a legal, which is 8 1/2 by 14 bent in half with a small size of the books of the Maimuna. And uh we were going to print it. It was going to be printed next day. I'm sorry to say on my own, I had enough um chutzpah. I ran the copy machine as I told you. I ran upstairs in the Kalil in the back 70. I made a copy of those little pages. And without asking anybody's permission, I gave it to Rabbi Groner to give it to the Rebbe. Some kind of we're going to print it. And lucky enough, next morning the Maimuna came out and it was Magid so was Acha. To another Magid come out and not only that, the Rebbe gave out that Maimuna to the Shluchim. They were going Chassidic Shabbat. The Shluchim uh Lamed Zayin to Tsas. This was the second group of Shluchim, I think. It was Lamed Vav, Lamed Zayin from Kotel, Lamed Ches. I don't remember. Um Um Motsae Simchas Motsae Simchas Torah Lamed Ches, where the Rebbe all these weeks the Rebbe spoke from the room. So Motsae Simchas Torah there was a very obvious Maimuna in the Ovenin in Simchas Torah. Motsae Shabbos Bereishis, there was no specific part of the Sicha that the way it looks to um my eyes that was a Maimuna. But Rabbi Groner gave over a name of the Rebbe that he should the Rebbe should make a Maimuna. And the Maimuna is supposed to be based on the Torah of the Tzemach Tzedek. Um Parshas Bechukosai Lachem. And that's the Rebbe did. The Rebbe was Magid. In those years is of the Maimuna were Kuntres. I the Rebbi spoke just one thing, one long thing. There was no My Sicha it's a different whole story. I'm going to Sicha was uh What's interesting that when the Rebbi started farbrenging finally um downstairs he started again saying my ma'am lamid ches. I think with lamid ches lamid tes. Even though before that there used to be my Sicha cuz the Rebbi was proving that he's healthy. Um even the good Sichas they they weren't going to give in. For Breishis lamid ches with the Rebbi said they should give in. They thought that's it. It's going to be another break now after 2 years like times before every 2 years was was a break. Interesting thing. >> That's your That's your uh My gifeel? Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Uh ev- everyone know that that's it. Sichas are No, I'm saying about the ma'am. Why did the Rebbi switch? It's It's very interesting cuz later on the Rebbi went back to ma'am and Sicha. I don't know this is halacha zachum for for people to say hergashum it's not my line. Interesting what's lamid ches with the Rebbi spoke about shalom soros. At that night early in the morning from a skias they called Berke Wolf in that so he was the the spokesman to the newspapers. 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So, after that, we know the Rebbe's Magid, what's in the Hasidic Bereishit, Noach, Lech Lecha, Chayei Sarah, after that came the Ma'amar Vayeitzei Vayishlach Beshalach, the long Ma'amar, uh, one of the longest Ma'amarim. The Rebbe said it like a sicha, so it could be a little longer Ma'amarim in speaking. I don't think so. And but till the maamar is ready by Reb Yael, was already kind of M'Katz. The Reb was already in a different In my opinion, the Reb was starting with publishing Tanya's. That's That's when the Mugadish Sichos stopped. But then here and there was a lot of Sichos. Uh The whole period of time Reb Yael made the kuntresim. Uh that Reb Yael went back to learn. Uh he would be here and there to help out. I would sit and type for Reb Yael. So on and so forth. And then later, after the whole thing stopped, he came back and then started again. Built the Mugadish time. Time the Reb was making a new Siyum Ha'Tanya, of course. I think the Reb wanted to tell the Reb that he said we should give it in. That was first the night was night from the room was a maamar and a sicha together. Reb Yael made it and it was not a sicha, but Reb Yael was planning to make a teichen. He didn't think the Reb wanted to make the whole sicha. And suddenly the Reb started with M'Katz. So I think you could see it online here. The Reb said, "Chassidish. Chassidish." The Reb said, "Time to He just spoke yesterday. It is missing till Reb Yael or Reb Yael in Now in Central Monsey all thing. And it was a sicha was already built. Has a structure. You have to start adding seifim, seifim, everything. And then uh >> [clears throat] >> But then in that sicha, actually, as I said before, the Reb took out the part of Shleimus Ha'Aretz. Uh A very interesting uh thing which we always know. It's not I have a one dougma, but it's something the Reb said by the farbrengen. It's Shchinah Medaberes Mi'Toch Grino. Once he said it, it's holy. The Reb said it was by the farbrengen in Hungary. Came to the thing as Torah of one of the Siyumim with the with the Reb. With one of the Rebbeim. But you could see here, for instance, in the Reb had written in a sicha he put a ho'oro in Purim Katan L'Metzora. That uh it says, "V'en find any va'amcha mikol ha'am." That's where the Reb said in the sicha. And and the posuk says ha'adam. And then in maimer in ches the Rebbe made a ha'ara'a that in the maimer in ches it says uh it says ha'am. And maybe it should say ha'adam or something. And then it's already printed. And then what the Rebbe had settled that rabim he'iru them some were embarrassed that uh that it has to be ha'adam. So the Rebbe wrote a gantze ha'ara'a to explain going around and around why be'emes the pshat of the posuk is the way he wrote and so on and so forth. Feistuch once the Rebbe said wrote um Talking about the Rebbe being magi'ah, there were times the Rebbe asked to give in a maimer. Many times that many that the Rebbe asked a cheileke zach. It's completely holy. The Rebbe asked to give in a maimer. We got the instruction with the Rebbe Chodakov all. And we gave in and the Rebbe was not magi'ah. It's a cheileke zach. We'll never understand what. For instance, taf shin lamed ches Rebbe Chodakov gave a sover that the Rebbe wants to be magi'ah the three maimerim. I think it was three maimerim a yom tov of Purim and chalta machalta se'udata of motzei Shabbos tzav. And they wrote because of parsha pora of shmini. And it wasn't Rebbe Yael Zweig Rebbe Lot. We I think it was Zweig Rebbe Lot. We gave in those maimerim. And they didn't come out. After a while we didn't print it. We're waiting maybe the Rebbe will be magi'ah. After a while I walked over obviously I did the dirty work. I walked over to Rebbe Chodakov. And I asked him Uh, so he says I should write it down on the paper. My request, what I want. So, um So, we typed up a paper that according to the law we received from the Rebbe, I guess. The Rebbe said, um we should give it to my mother, and uh we asked him what to do now. You have to be very careful you write to the Rebbe. We asked the Rebbe, "What should we do now?" The Rebbe's answer was uh something like this, "After all the years to learn everything did you already ask him what to do? Did you already finish learning everything came out till now, at least part of it?" This is This is what it is. Yeah. So, it came out No, the Rebbe didn't give it out. They came out building a bigger Yeah, then that's it. We had to It's like all the times he used to ask a question uh later fast now. That's the way the regular language right there is what the Rebbe explains later fast now. The Rebbe would signal around the world later fast now. Make a comment, you don't understand ask him a Rebbe he'll explain you. It was a time they stopped even Rebbe's started writing a different language so not to get uh But this is part of part of the work. Um a few um about talking about the Rebbe the Rebbe had a day that today all the Rebbe had a total of 24 hours. Um This had nothing to do with came out of the test the the jubilee of 50 years of the Rebbe's birthday. It was I was working in the Rebbe's house but suddenly the Rebbe called me. And he tells me that the Rebbe said that if someone will prepare and give him in the Rebbe's house he'll be my gear. I was going to ask uh I ran to label all 10. I asked him to write it up. Actually, we found out years later whenever it was that the Rebbe had my gear already that Rebbe had the book in a white printed book of all the building Rebbe's house connected with the Rebbe. And the Rebbe already had my gear because because Shmuel Gurary from Montreal, Shmuel Gurary which is a relative and good close friend of the Rebbe, had asked the Rebbe, someone asked him Shmuel Gurary, the Rebbe told that person he could ask himself. He could ask me and he asked and the Rebbe practically went with my gear. Not only the Maimonides written there like a sicha, the way the Rebbe spoke in Tof Shin Gimmel, uh Tof Shin Daled, the biur Poshka says to the biur and the one friendly Rebbe. But we didn't know about it was already a ghost from the Rebbe. Nobody told us. And Walter Runab the Rebbe was magi'd. And uh gave it out that Maimon. And actually in the Pesach Dovo it says over there that the Maimon is me'usad on the Maimon of Pitas. It was a biur on the Maimon of Chodesh V'Eish Pitas of the Rebbe's Hashem. But the Rebbe fixed in the Pesach Dovo and he wrote like this. The Rebbe wrote over there K'ni'ra who me'usad. Like basically it's not the Rebbe writing this Dovo. Mareches Tzach Tzidkim. How do you know what's me'usad what not? You are writing with the Mareches Tzach Tzidkim writing that we think it's not the first time the Rebbe did the same and and some other Maimon like this. Even though in the Muga the way it was magi'd first, it said over there biur and the other part it says biur also that sicha of Shavuos Yud Gimmel. Uh because this was obvious to everyone but that the Rebbe says, how do you know what it is? This is This is my Maimon. Now um I would like to start about the Maimonim. The project. >> Project Likutei Sichos. Well, project of the Kuntreisim. Uh So basically the Rebbe says what to him show about this that over the years there were various Maimonim that were Muga. You know, the whole Chelek Alef, the whole Likutei Alef is basically those Maimonim and then all the rest is the what you're calling the project of Maimonim from Tof Shin Mem Vov, right? Sure. Even in in in that first volume I mean, what's my bagel? It's very interesting. times right before for sunset before Thomas. The other side of my mirror and reveal prepared it. It was the biggest sale by the people that Friday night. I'm saying my own It's more than a haggish. Friday night in the back of what the other brings. They were doing by Weinberg with house in the other side of the house and the other people hooked up there to him. And it was so hooked up there and standing and watching people housing that the other people came out early, came down early to go to Shabbos. He walked in and the people took time for people to realize that the other people are coming in for Shabbos. And I had a feeling that time that because of that the other people are going to get the other people actually the other people came out after that. >> What's the cause what? Cuz the other people had so much more Seeing the other people >> Seeing the people closer in the in the other people. My own kind of a kosher. Uh, my mother in the other people was to my mother and the other people was my gear. The other people wanted it to get everywhere as possible to show above. Um I was upstairs. I wasn't working those years. It was there but I was there as a great thing in that and they were printing so I took one of those my morning. Before it was yet the dirty one that he measures to see if it's folding properly printing in the proper place. I had one in my pocket a dirty my mother with ink. And I was downstairs when the other people came up from Kines. And walked came out from the elevator and he turned to the other people to the other people and he and he says, "Is the my mother here already?" I put standing there so I grabbed out of my pocket and gave it to the other people to give it to the other people. Later they gave him a good printed my mother. Just saying. And then I went uh to the airport. We tried to find someone to try to get it somewhere in Canada. And so I said not so simple. And surely so I'm involved the other people was my gear and though it wasn't given in it was like a knock given in with a real prepared it after that happened. So you're you're going to remember a few single ones. But then the point is the whole in those years only two my mom that I was my gear. I think Boston going to put a few comments but it didn't come out as a knock. It's not printed. As mugged it. The whole of it sign. It's interesting that I could assist us. The assist there was like a say that I'm obviously going to say that I'm done and stopped but there's a regular say that I have a sickness or being mugged but then I didn't have any say there really. No, but this was the say that was only after I was looking at this is to give in before to the river. I'll soon come to this whole idea. Could say this is Different idea. You're preparing from years ago for this service. My mom is after the river spoke. The whole of it sign two mugged it three mugged it in my mom. I'm talking everything that came out at the time. The whole of it test only two my mom and my mugged it one atom itself of my yell. The other one atom itself of service and it's over which was only found. I don't know where. It's none of my business. It was found after a given Thomas. Um To show me only a few my mom and my mugged it. The whole of my mom of only one mugged it in my mom. I'm talking everything before the project of the my mom. The whole of my mom base all together one my mom came out on a personal over on going to stand there was my gear the knock it and only one more my mom in in in the project. Now um we always tried this was uh tried to always scream forever to get out from the river the river should my gear something. I wasn't already working in the sickness since uh basic time I got married 711. Yeah. Since uh then on this time >> The knock is is a bachelor project. My mom love. I was still involved in things but I decided since coming up um uh same say for Taylor clothing, that's going to be finished by the Sifre and Isru Chag Shavuos. But I got a file that maybe we should take the Maimuna learning Sifre Sifre Torah that I said by the completion of Sifre Sifre Torah at Shabbos 10 Shvat. And giving it in, this was a hanacha of the style of hanachas. I I'm not I don't write for my mom. I worked through all of that much and then Sholom Hurwitz fixed it there. I typed it up and gave it in. A short while later, um I meet Rabbi Groner. And Rabbi Groner says, "Who is asking for the Maimuna?" The Rabbi just give out Maimuna. Who is requesting it? I never heard of anything like this. You know, when someone has to request, the Rabbi once gives out. What am I doing now? I went to Rabbi Leibel Groner, which is the best way. It was I mean, you didn't realize that it was an interesting thing that you on your own giving a Maimuna. The Rabbi has a choice to give out whatever he wants. But It never happened. I mean, usually there's a guf that that gives it, you know. >> That That That wasn't I don't believe that was the issue. But why is the Rabbi suddenly giving out the Maimuna? Mhm. So, I went but I couldn't tell Rabbi Leibel Groner what exactly is going on here. This is all things that uh Today you could share it. They share everything today. And I asked him I told him kind of something the most What I asked from him was I need an empty stationery of this Rivka with your signature on the bottom. I need to type up a letter there. He looked at me like suspicious. What am I trying to like something He looked at me like I know him from before. I know him well. Uh But I kind of half words and he gave me I typed up a settlement in his name that he's asking the Rabbi the Maimuna. Gave the Maimuna to the Rabbi. And my luck my mazel the Rabbi was my good Maimuna. Okay, we're preparing the Maimuna for second ago. Obviously, you write a best of all the world and best of all that says Makasha. You ever saw the best of all the world? >> Yeah. Makasha Maknos Sifre Sifre Torah whatever for this the Rebbe takes and cuts off the whole um most of it and writes simple as that because in the table I don't know whatever the rest of the table Now, what I do I said what I do I told I said we decided we going to tell you get the whole for all the is going to be the for the same table and that was good enough. After that I said to myself, look if if it's a Yom Tov for my mom why not you'd be Thomas? I had the mind of I kept copies of things that we all can would give in other years or which never came out which I kept copies uh I had the mind of which was prepared on the request of the Rebbe from the three my mom the three my mom the three my mom of Sukkot and you can do it 12 times which was prepared by the Rebbe all the time and I took it as it is my mom came in this was so bad that uh at the time the Rebbe mentioned he was basing it on a my mom we guessed and my mom came in guessed it was because my mom came in Rebbe my mom it says that the Rebbe wrote a my mom at that point the Rebbe when he passed away. But we weren't sure but I just give it in as is and I went that time in the cats cuz I came back and the Rebbe gave out the my mom of course and wrote the the my mom came in the same way I am like exclamation mark like of course I I added all the my mom came in so missing I updated everything everything was already many minutes for this is this is 10 years later. After that I decided you know if it sounds like you don't have to also and then the rest is history rush uh >> [clears throat] >> And all those Kuntresim came to Rosh Hashanah, uh because uncorrectly in the safer I'm a Bosel I got to share the caliph, you have the Maimer of the start of of of of Rosh Hashanah. The two Maimer made in Elam and Yom Shorashon and the Elam. And the Maimer of Sukkos and the Maimer of Shmini Atzeres K'seder all not with the same Kuntres. The Rebbe was shown, I gave it to the Rebbe, I have it, a Shaa Blatt, a big Shaa Blatt printed Kuntres Rosh Hashanah Tav Shin Mem Zayin. The Rebbe approved it. And actually it was printed then, but by the printing machine of Anach Vil Hak. With the name Kuntres, the same thing was the Sukkos was printed name Kuntres. And the same thing Shmini Atzeres K'seder. But when the Vad reprinted it cuz they needed to have the holy Acius, not the not the old, the Frank Hill of the regular machines, so they changed the name the way they liked. Actually, by the time they printed the Meluket Chelek Bais, they already knew that this is what the Rebbe wanted. They saw the Rebbe is continuing Kuntresim. And I think, and I spoke to him lately to one of those people, that they should put in all those Maimerim also that a safer is not normal to start from Yitzkis. It doesn't make sense. I don't know, maybe they someone reprinted even though the still relevant cuz we have the Toras Menachem. Um And then the rest is history. Rebbe started being Magia. Uh of course, the work was this was an addition to other work. I also worked for a living. Uh it was day and night sitting with with Rebbe Yael. Uh mostly at night. Uh something later, I think in the late Tav Shin Mem Ches, um uh Chaim Sholom will helped me out, but I think most of those my mom most of them I typed. I did the simple mom came as um to be able to do it and where were you doing it? >> would write. And whenever he had a place, where was he going to sit? Sometimes in his office, sometimes he came partly came to my house. >> [clears throat] >> He came to my house and sat the whole night. Not Rebbe, I was up with him just to keep him company. And the few little pieces of silver we had in our office, most probably didn't have doors with glass. In the morning everything was had to be shined again from a new. My kids had no clue in the morning to ask who is this old man with a white beard sitting here a whole night. Uh but this is what it was. They needed to be shined again from the from the smoke. From the smoke of the cigarettes. The whole house was Today it's it's unacceptable. The Rebbe needed two things to to write a mom or sicha. He would need cigarettes and something to eat which always meant sardines. Today they don't even sell them in stores. They are not so healthy. And it's interesting >> very healthy. You should take it out. I talk about cigarettes that the sardines After chossein oder, he asked who wants to buy him a pack of cigarettes. I said no, now I'm not buying you anymore. Till now I had no choice. I had to provide the cigarettes, but now I'm not buying you anymore cigarettes. Uh it is um So, and like this we worked all the time putting a a lot of time. Um >> [clears throat] >> It's it's something interesting. This was the mom of chof cheshvan of yud alef mamar chossein tov sholom tzion it came out tov sholom tzion. Um This is also in likutei sichos chelek alef vol 11 contresim. As it said over there on each one on the passover on top was typed contres chof cheshvan contres sukkos contres minchas cheres. Um And that one on the pastor Dover with the galleries the long papers that just have to give them a gift of time was 11 by 17 folded in half. Uh the Rebbe wrote that ain't no small government like you have my mind either palm Vader palm Vader over safe. There is no time to make it a mind again again and there's no end to it. And then there was another piece written there uh about something specific and the Rebbe wrote that it seems their opinion is that they have to explain in the whole of this mind every place in Humash it says you you the word you dear and the sheet of Russia and the the UK and everything could be explained. And then the Rebbe said also there's a mix of quality from a year question mark. In that letter in the whole of this is explained about the sheet there at the time I I remember uh Rebbe Yael did not exactly know if it was referring to the mind even though there is real data in that mind there. It could be there was something else that the Rebbe used this pastor Dover to write. I never went to verify to find out I wouldn't be able to either they wouldn't tell me. Um from Tuv Shevat I said Shawl helped out a lot. We ended up one time she said of some place in Montgomery I don't remember I remember the basement on Crown close to uh New York Avenue we said there for quite a while. And sometimes in the mind also is uh Yitzchak of Yitzchak he was a fast typist a very young boy who would help me out here and there sometimes a few times to type. Um Now um Now at the same time uh when I worked in the office Um I also besides making my own came as I also typed the transcripts word for word. I believe the first time was sometimes time was long and heavy, but mostly I started it from beginning of number 12. Everything till um till the last day. 99% A few of them were typed by my good friend Levi Yitzchok. He also know how to type transcripts. >> Transcripts of what? Word for word what the Rebbe said in order to make the nocha. Mhm. The point is that after the nocha was made, at least by nocha number 11 nocha number 12 from my mother of middle of my mother of till the end when you finish the nocha, you have the nocha next to you, you you rewrite, edit it properly. When you finish, you don't keep the transcript. Nobody thought it's going to come a time that people are going to want to learn Yiddish, sit to a tape, a video, and and and follow a transcript. Therefore, most of the sicha's that I typed, I typed two copies with a carbon paper, and everything went uh to the so-called shamuses. Altogether, I saved from those years like 2,000 pages half an hour a box, which means that everything after 5709 order, I started typing from 5714. But by 5722 I should have had everything, but since I don't have anything, so I have to continue all the years further. Also, some people needed today digitally. But uh tapes of all of this. Yes, but you have to redo when I sit and type. I remember that farbrengen cuz I typed it then. And when you think about the amount of farbrengens in the mems 5711 and 5712 So, I have everything finished till 5728 in general. Uh but the other ones have tons of them finished, but there's still so much work when you think how much work there's still to retype. So, you got you you've been going through all the sicha's and that. >> I I now I I didn't do it anymore by order just for interesting. >> Why are you doing it for? First of all, the stuff has to be typed word for word. I'm doing all the stuff for the hack today. Um also that I'm doing it because I think one day people would like to have the transcript to be able to Let us like the stuff that came from you also, right? The stuff that came I did for him all the years. Jam I did all the years. Uh there's a bits and pieces. Um So, you're planning on on doing all that? >> I am continuing non-stopped. Tons of work for the amount of time. On the form of them you have to have patience. It's not easy when you see a for bringing. When a for bringing is short, you could type it much faster because it prints it so much quicker. You know it's going to take short because faster. When a for bringing is 50 pages in double space, that's 25 in single space or 30 or 35. Uh the stuff I get is this one I'm just writing word for word. From the end of the stuff I get >> it once. I tried it once just for a stand and experiment. It's very difficult. Yeah. Uh from the end of the stuff I get I have to say it was already a computer, but after MS-DOS finished it went over word. I gave someone to transfer all the stuff. Not all of them were transferred. Quite a bit of them I typed and they weren't transferred. But more I have from the end of the stuff I get quite a bit. >> when is the are you going to be able to do it? I keep on asking people and I do follow like no things even though it's not my not my level of not my ball park, but I'd like to follow and I always ask people if you could do it from a tape cuz it's interesting. I remember in the early 70s that by the airport when we had the airport used to be office. Nobody sat there. And you saw a machine was called date matrix. There must be someone was typing somewhere else or speaking. I don't know if someone typing. and it was typing the message here in this office and I always said I wish uh it could be something for the tape something else. A lot of them I have on paper but you can't do it without program cuz it's not so clear and the amount of mistakes we'll make it's not worth it >> [clears throat] >> to retype. I actually it's not negated to this but since you mentioned this uh for instance all the weekday for bring ins from Yud Alef till Lamed is 1200 pages 8 and 1/2 by 11 single space. Just Lamed Vov itself is like 700 pages. Lamed Ches which you think the Rebbe spoke so little like the Rebbe expressed himself says my mom read notes 7 minutes what are we doing there in the office? The light is on the whole night. We didn't know we didn't pay attention that the Rebbe says the window to us. As soon as we found out the window sheet was by your sister by the Rashag. We never paid attention he's across the roof over there. When I heard from my brother reported the Rebbe asked him what's going on the man for bring to was 10 minutes why the sitting Were you sitting in the library? No in Hanachos Maymim in the office across the >> see 788 from the apartment right yeah. Yeah because officially the Cheder Yugud of Gan Yisroel's office is a short garage. Mhm. But we didn't pay attention of whose whose house this is. I never looked. My brother came and said that the Rebbe asked him he told the Rebbe it's my brother that's irrelevant. But the Rebbe said the man read 7 minutes they're officially the Rebbe speaking 10 minutes after we sit. So he explained the Rebbe was preparing a girl. When I heard that you know what I did I'm sorry to say next morning I went we had no shades I bought a shade. So the window should be closed that's all I need. >> [clears throat] >> The Rebbe forgot the pulling the reporting yeah. Yeah reporting. Um so after that Lamed Tes Lamed Ches itself is like 900 pages one year. Lamed Tes is my stomach >> [clears throat] >> is is over 1000 pages. So I I I took a little break I lost say there and I started working only the end of the pogus which means by now I typed up all the end of the pogus the year, all days that are connected with the Rebbeim, all the fabrengens of days connected to Rebbeim. In addition also Purim, also Assarah B'Teves, also Shivas Tammuz, also Lag B'Omer. But basically on the order of the Yom HaMevuarach, and there's a lot of other fabrengens which I did here and there. Still a lot of work that I can make up care for Hashem. I I work as much as I could to do it. Um Okay, so I I you you have more or or I have a question. I know you're also involved in the Michtavim Klalim of the Rebbe. What what was what was your involvement in that? Uh since I was working in Hanachos, at at a certain point of Shin Lamed Vov, uh my brother asked me to come help him to work on the on the letter. The seder was that uh Reb Nissan Mindel the Rebbe would dictate to Reb Nissan Mindel uh practically a sicha, what the letter should be. Actually years later when Reb Nissan Mindel, I guess couldn't hear so good, they even said there should be recordings from him. And obviously if I would ever get a hold of a recording like this, a letter is like four five four pages. If you take a sicha half hour you could make a nice beautiful sicha. Uh uh uh uh uh I guess it's a Michtav Klali written for newspaper. And Reb Nissan Mindel would I I guess type up the the letter at home. He would add the introduction like uh Shana Tova. I don't know. Uh Chayel whatever it is. >> [clears throat] >> And then >> he would do the English and the Yiddish? Uh one one second. No. So I um So Reb Groner the Rebbe would take the letter that Reb Nissan Mindel prepared, which was untyped on onion skin paper, which means there was an original plus onion skin paper. And but the Rebbe worked on the onion skin paper. And then again the Rebbe's corrections, it depends how sharp the pencil were throughout all the years. Sometimes uh some sometimes you would get a sicha, you were able >> an original stencil with the Rebbe's Haggadah. This is uh onion skin paper, which is thin paper, so you could type a few copies. >> So, this is this is a stencil or is it onion skin? This is something else. >> paper, which means put in a regular piece of paper, and then you put a carbon paper. You could still buy it in the store, maybe they still sell the carbon paper. And then another one or two of these, so you have a copy for the Rebbe and maybe even this Mendel. And the Rebbe always worked on this one kind of not to ruin the original. This is one with a few corrections. Maybe it's not the first Haggadah. But then you used to see sometimes the [clears throat] Haggadahs, you could even figure out sometimes where the Rebbe wrote the Haggadahs, where they were written on a table that was clear for the Rebbe on top of bunch of other a bunch of other things. And sometimes you see it was written from the way the pencil was. We knew it was written on the Rebbe's at home, which the maybe the the >> [clears throat] >> the table cloth was silk, and you see all the words are kind of broken according to the way we write on something underneath, which is silk, soft. >> So, you you were you were typing, that was it. >> So, after the Rebbe was magi'ah, Rabbi Mendel would would write out the dictation, prepare a letter the Rebbe would magi'ah from top to bottom. Uh you could see here tons of big full hours, there was very little space for the Rebbe. And then Rabbi Groner would type it up. And then you have to make mar'ei mekomos. Cuz the Rebbe would write certain things and leave empty, and you could see all along I have many samples here, I didn't read them. That the Rebbe said, "I already taken that at mar'ei mekomos another time. I have no time to go look for it." So, basically uh the Rebbe would leave things empty, you should put in the mar mokim where exactly the possuk is. Reb Groner asked me to help him. We went to the Rebbe's library. Reb Groner would write the mar mokims? He would type up the letter. He would have to fill in the missing mar mokims. >> he kept that job always the the like I guess he had it before also. And we did that in the library. The library was before it was end of lamed vov where Reb Berel Levin started organize good library. But also library you don't have like in a small room all the sforim. I helped him a little bit. Then I remember I think it was end of um lamed vov I don't remember I saw I was helping with an air in downstairs where the magnet in that room where the Rebbe walks out. And I see the Rebbe going home. In my calculation the Rebbe was going to write to work on a miktav klali. I see the Rebbe going home with two volumes of likut sichos in his hand. I think one of them was chelek daled which has in its office the miktavim klalim of of I guess till taf shin chof gimmel. I'm sorry. I'm going to look a little bit at the notes. In that one in chelek daled had miktavim klalim from taf shin nun chof daled. It came out taf shin chof daled had the the letter of of yemos haMoshiach chof gimmel. Chelek tes which actually printed taf shin lamed hey it had all the miktavim klalim from taf shin yud till taf shin lamed daled. Because chelek yud daled with its office with all the miktavim klalim which actually printed uh uh end of lamed ches. And then the Rebbe would come back. The Rebbe took it to make mar mokims. He took the letter with him and he took the two sforim. And then when the Rebbe would come back next day you had um the letter the Rebbe would make mar mokims. And for instance on a certain thing of like Khayel that seems gullah, the Rebbe would say in a b'sach Khuntres Khayel Tof Shin Gimmel which was printed many, many years ago cuz in that letter in Likutei Sichos the Rebbe took home which was from old year before the Sefer HaSichos Tof Shin Gimmel was printed, I think it was Tof Shin Daled. Whatever it is or different things like this which were the mamakim was uh like something that majority of people don't even have it anymore. Like the Rebbe wrote to us once uh on a certain Muggid Shiur with Sefer HaLikutei Sichos which wasn't yet uh a liquid, wasn't printed yet and the Rebbe wrote on it Nimtzo Rak Echad B'Vais Shnaim Shprakh Ha'Am expression. Who has a single uh liquid of Likutei Sichos? Uh so it was suggested that instead of the Rebbe having to to do this that we should prepare the simple mamakim is psukim Chazal, the regular things that already the Rebbe has in other places Sefer and type it up double space and give it in to the Rebbe. And the Rebbe will uh add whatever ha'aros he wants, whatever mamakim he wants. And that's how uh it started. We used to prepare um and give it in to the Rebbe and the Rebbe would add mamakim. Uh and then after the second typing which is that's when we did it we did mamakim. Um concerning uh by now everyone knows that um in special maimorim Yom Tov official maimorim >> You finished it in Michtav Klali? >> No, no, no, no, I want to mention special in Michtav Klali we knew from here and there that the Rebbe likes in every Michtav Klali should be um Shas Bavli Yerushalmi, Rashi all the Rabbeinu, Zera certain list of things that had to be there. Also, the my Ma'amorim had to be all the the Rabbeinu. >> did this list come from? Just this People knew him as the time of the Rebbe. You could see here and there and other places that people didn't think that it was Maggid. He had it in some place. In the Ma'amar Chabad of Tof Shin Daled, Sabeel. He had it in a certain place. K'mo V'or uh b' b' Drushas Ma'amar Tzemach Tzedek b'kama Without even saying where. The Tzemach Tzedek was in the Ma'amar. He has to be. >> the Rebbe wanted this? Yes. And and of course from a certain year on, also his father had to be taken. Now, when you come to take an apostil a Rashi, a a Gemara you could find it. A Yerushalmi you could also take on the same Bavli way it's in Yerushalmi. When it comes to the Rabbeinu how many forms of Rabbeinu were printed? And with no Maftechos, how do you find something? But we knew the Rebbe wants it at a certain point. Uh the letter was supposed to be given it to Rebbe night before he goes home to work on it at night. But it was missing. After hard work, it was missing a few Rabbeinu, especially the Rabbeinu that don't have Maftechos of those years. Uh the Rebbe Maharash A few Rabbeinu were missing. And uh a note was written to the Rebbe that we still missing these three Rabbeinu. And we worked on it uh at night trying to find. Uh the Rebbe, besides everything as we all know, is a gentleman. Uh by the morning when the Rebbe came, I was I was ready with a paper with the things missing to give it to Rabbi Groner to give it to the Rebbe. But the Rebbe got it. The Rebbe gave out what he had prepared. And over there I have a photocopy of it, a a little paper where the Rebbe wrote the names of all the Rebbeim. And checked off which ones he already had. And then the Rebbe himself filled in the Rebbeim that were still missing when it was prepared beforehand. Of course, the Rebbe would never tries never to erase what someone else did. Putting those also. Um And uh like this it um at the used to be typed. And the Rebbe would fix it. We had to retype it till the third time we typed it up nice, ready for for the Rebbe to sign. In those years the negatives was printed used to be printed letters to be printed either was small as we like this or later on two pages when it came more more mkames. And when the Rebbe had to sign the letter in those years the negative machines, the real negatives, I don't know why, but it wouldn't be able to pick up a blue signature. If the Rebbe would sign with his blue pen, so they would give him the Rebbe a a nice easy flowing pen, a black one. This was the hazakah of of Shalom Jacobson, alav hashalom. And together with the letter the Rebbe I would go on and give him the Rebbe would sign. But it happened that the Rebbe signed the original with his signature, but he still fixed a few corrections. What do you do? In the olden years you see letters here and there printed, and you have a correction by hand, but in those years already this wasn't acceptable. So we practically if the Rebbe would fix uh a few words in a line, you wouldn't cut the Rebbe want to get ruin the Rebbe's original. Someone wanted to keep it. Not me, but someone wanted to keep it. And um so we would cut it and type over this one line and the way to tighten the space, you go after space back. So you could add a few words. Sometimes you had no choice. From whatever the Rebbe's correction was, you had to finish typing till the end of the letter, retyping, and then put the Rebbe's last paragraph with the Rebbe's signature. >> It's copy paste. Yeah, in the negative. Not uh you wouldn't ruin it with wax the original in negative. They did that. Um then at a certain point, and later after the letter was mugged a few times, now Rabbi Nissan Mindel at the same time the Rebbe was magi'a, he already was writing the letter in English. He didn't have the Rebbe's corrections. After the Rebbe would give out the first time corrections, which were a lot of corrections, >> Cuz he wasn't there. He was in the Long Island, I think. So Rabbi Groner would ask you sometimes to go on the telephone and Rabbi Nissan Mindel didn't hear good. I would have to scream on top of scream on top of my lungs telling him the Rebbe's corrections. And then then the Rebbe made more corrections, more corrections. Therefore, when the when the English letter came to the Rebbe and the Rebbe was magi'a it. Uh this one time I see on a letter that the Rebbe writes in it on a certain word he circled around wasn't my job. He circled around the word and he's asking to whoever's working that with it's Rabbi Nissan Mindel or whoever's working. He wants to know if this English word is the proper translation for that Yiddish word. I see it. I see Rabbi Klein said, "I I don't understand. The Rebbe could write whatever he wants." He said, "You want to know the way the Rebbe works on the letters in English? He sits down with the final printed Michtav Klali in Yiddish, puts it next to him, puts the English and he compares them both. That's why this is what happened later. It's already in time of uh Rabbi Yisrael Yitzchak Oh Shalom, that the Rebbe was kind of commented he's not a proofreader, they should do it all themselves. What? To to fix the letter, it doesn't have to look it over the English letter. Mhm. Part of it then that to make a touch tomorrow chemist with other caption from the inside just with numbers. And then they would also do it in Hebrew. >> him again English or is it a I I don't know. >> He signed it. I don't know how many times it was Maggid, but he wanted someone else to do things that the Rebbe the Rebbe simple a proofreader which all the years was like this. I still remember the time when I give him on the dial they were giving things to the Rebbe that they knew they didn't even look if there was any mistakes. The Rebbe was doing all the job to fix the mistakes. In in in in the later years when we didn't have time we came right away we started doing already typesetting right typing it on a computer you could fix it so we rent Empire Press. But we didn't have time to look it over. The Rebbe was going to Dale. So we would write on the letter that this letter was not proofread yet. We're doing it now. The Rebbe should know. There were times the Rebbe took it was Maggid on the way to the Ahel. And the Rebbe Kinsky already had that time of a heavy big telephone in the car or talking about the design or I don't remember when. And he would call me with some corrections uh and >> the in the car on the way? Yeah, on the way. Um the same thing was uh they would would write to the Rebbe that it wasn't looked over that we're going to do it, you know. Um like this then started with the computers. And and then again everything was done under pressure. The Rebbe must come out uh at certain point. And there was one time that I even remember what it is. It's interesting. Uh I think the Rebbe wrote something about Chassal Seder Pesach Hilchos A the issue was whether it says Seder Pesach Hilchos A or Sidor Pesach Hilchos A. In those years where we're going to look for these things, we know it's a computer and no nothing or on the library it was would be impossible. No, but we don't say that. No vote from Frederick that the did not put in the cell. But the made a certain comment I think about that. I don't know if it's national. You tell me you know it's national. Whatever the way it says whether it's whether it's Sido Pessa or Seder Pessa. And the left that he wants to put in a a mar mokem. The letter The went to the ale that day. The was going back home soon. And mar mokem for what? I'm sorry about this way the way whether it's written Seder Pessa or Sido Pessa. I'm sorry we we don't even know how to look for this. I'm sorry to say. Um And the letter has to be printed by the morning. The is going home now and this is missing. The left two circles empty. Not having a choice, I'm sorry to say I went downstairs in the 1980 holding the long gallis hoping that the Rabbi Groner is going to come out from the room before the comes out and I'll first give him the letter and tell him to go him back and ask the to To my um muscle the walks out from the room before. I see the walking out. I move back. Of course I wasn't going to talk to the to The turns around to me. He asked me what's real still. So I said nothing. So the says Mr. And I mean the saw that I came here with something holding my hands for something. I mean obviously by that time must have really some commotion going on outside in the 1980. He pushed himself through the and I walked over. Uh I didn't talk to the the The Rebbe here going to next to him. I told Rebbe Groner, "I think you have even footnote was left empty." And the Rebbe turns around and tells to Rebbe Groner, "I already gave it to you this afternoon." I mean, things were very hectic. He didn't have a chance. There's no rush. He didn't have a chance to give it over to me. But I knew it needs to go to print. I didn't know. >> gave to to Rebbe Groner He told him in the afternoon what to write here. I think it was about that or something else. I understand the whole story cuz it's a it's a it's a marker for this besides Haggadah. I don't remember it was exactly No, if this if you write Seder or Siddur Pesach Hilchos say >> So, what's a marker for the Nusach Haggadah? No, we're starting with different Haggadahs that the way they say it has different Nakudas. So, the Rebbe gave a a marker I think it was that. I'm almost sure it was that. It could be Maybe it was already printed. Maybe I could check it up. I mean, it would be a big amount of time to put into that. Um Anyhow, so then but everything was done in pressure. Now, in the Michtovim, always the end of the Michtav Klali the Rebbe would always add the Pasuk of the Kapitel. In the if the it would be two letters, it would be a letter of a Yoder. A Shkedeish Nish and Av Nish. Later came three letters and Av Nish. In the letter closer to Pesach The Rebbe's Kapitel. The Rebbe's Kapitel. This, of course, was not in part of the dictation. Avremel couldn't write it. And the Rebbe would add this connected part of the Brocha. I remember the Bochurim I don't think those years already started the new idea of a Nigun a new Nigun a old Nigun for the Kapitel, but never decided yet which Psukim they should they should pick for the for the Nigun. And they would always wait I should tell them uh what Pasuk did the Rebbe write like this again a day earlier to have time. What did the Rebbe write? Which plastic did the Rebbe write? Um and I have it still everything is done under major pressure. I mean, I'm sorry. Mind you, I mean, I had a job to work. I got married the Shiva Mitzvah Mitzvah and all this was done on my uh partially on my free time the whole night and I wish it would be at night, but it ended up a lot of times uh uh for some reasons ended up being uh in the middle of the day when I was already at work getting a telephone call. Come back, we need to do this need to do that. But this is uh I had a big schmooze I was able to work on those all those things. >> You did it in 2008? Uh yes. Yes. Did you also work on letters that the Rebbe wrote like for dinners and things? Um Rabbi Nissan Mindel stopped writing um Taf Shin Mem Ches. Uh I think his wife wasn't well or some other reason. Uh one letter Rabbi Groner prepared. Um You told me the Michtavim Klolim. >> Yeah, I think Pesach from Ches if I'm not mistaken. Um maybe it was based on a farbrengen maybe the Rebbe told him inside the room. Later on uh the Vaad uh some of Rabbi Groner give it over to the Vaad. Sometimes the Rebbe would either by farbrengen you saw the Rebbe speaking a whole sicha like when Yaakov couldn't enough. You heard by the farbrengen already he's dictating here Mhm. a statement. It was very obvious. You felt it. Or they got paper and and the sichos to And then it's a Taf Shin Mem Ches I think at a certain point Rabbi Nissan Mindel couldn't do anymore the so-called Michtavim Klolim Protims for the dinners the all those things. So I also helped out technically. For instance, you had to um when the Rebbe writes a letter to Mesayemess to graduation you have to see which school when they're graduating and their name should be spelled properly. Uh the regular language of a letter usually is uh the minor hit awesome it is a scheme she it is a scheme she is a scheme she is kind. I say you have to change it with different cuz the same letter was sent to many different organizations. >> referring to longer letters that are written for like a dinner of a message. Um maybe I'll get to it soon. Um so basically a letter is based uh the minor hit awesome it is a scheme she is a scheme she is kind. And you look at an invitation, put in the proper date cuz the same letter was going to different schools, different places. Other hit awesome it is a scheme she one of them is she is kind of scheme she is kind of scheme she is kind of scheme she is kind whatever it is and I mean a lot of I answered your question a lot of those new stuff of the letter is already from different years and used to be the Rebbe as one gram or whatever that time the Rebbe used to cook whatever it was the time the Rebbe cook about the Yom Tov including three days with Shabbos uh different things like this. Um so I helped out there too and but then started with computers was ready computers so it looked too nice and the Rebbe didn't want to ruin it to be my gear and I of course want the Rebbe to be my gear. So I saw from I learned from him even though I don't write like such a great guy like him but I would write on top of the letter in big words had to you know had no stationary yet and the Rebbe would know but the Rebbe still was afraid I saw one time the Rebbe was afraid to fix just like so even signed one time without the stationary. So I added on top in big and every letter had to take letter go with two underlines. And uh then after the Rebbe was finishing it, we did the collection computer, now we need to print it on a stationery. So uh my client wanted to give me stationeries of the Rebbe, I refused to take. I don't want to keep the stationeries of the Rebbe. I asked him to have only three cuz if the stationery gets stuck when you put in the machine to print, it's not regular paper. It was the paper with the water watermarks, the famous fancy paper. So I only kept with me two or three pieces and then I would give it to to print. Now, how would I know if there's uh uh uh event coming? So I worked and I would come usually Shabbos uh before the farbrengen. I would see uh Rabbi Groner. And um I would hear from him what are the different things is there. Uh a dinner or some event which I didn't keep up with. Uh I couldn't keep up with the things that's going on. It was one time I came Shabbos, it was in the winter and Rabbi Groner tells me that tomorrow Sunday there's a Chanukah sub bias of the Lubavitcher Yeshiva. I don't know I think it was tough shmuel, and I don't remember. This building on Crown Street. And there has to be a letter. I didn't know what to do. I said I'll try my best. This is uh the first time a letter of of of Lubavitcher Yeshiva of this style. We have from other years. And I didn't promise anything. Um I came out to Shabbos. I boruch Hashem managed. Uh I put it on the table, just stood outside the Rebbe's door. Berke Unique, my cousin, was sitting there at that time. And I put it out, I think it was 11:30 at night. I didn't know of anything. About 2:00 in the morning uh my cousin Berke Unique he me that the letter came out. I come back to 770. I see uh the letter and there's a little piece of paper upside down and written on it a big ches, which means chashoy or charedi chof. Of course, I uh I turned it over. I'm sorry to say, I take a look and uh I see there a letter from uh from the secretary telling the Rebbe uh that and he didn't tell me that he's preparing a note relying on me. I I told him I don't know if I'm going to manage. He never told me he prepared a note to the Rebbe that later on when he left home that later on uh he told us Moshiach Buckie and he attached it to the letter that with surah of uh the letter to Chanoch So by Simchas Mimim asking the Rebbe if you could get back the letter in the same night. In order to be able to have to sign it. We have to print it for the dinner. And that paper I didn't see it when the letter came out. I see the Rebbe writes in his scabbard the chotzei salailam what's the Shabbos Kodesh. I received it midnight. Must be the Rebbe opened up the door to take stuff from the table. It was after 12:00 at night, which is a holy thing. What if the Rebbe worked all night? What's the difference with It's kind of a a chutzpah that you're giving me and the same thing was with all the sichos later in the time of Vadhanokh Mimim in the Mugdike Farbrengens. Unlike Lack, I was coming late and there were many times sometimes the Rebbe clearly didn't make it as a matter of principle after chotzei I mean, what do you mean? I You need it tomorrow morning. I have to work for you. And the Rebbe writes in his scabbard chotzei salailam what's the Shabbos Kodesh. Then the Rebbe says if someone b'mishuchidus l'eicha anusach hatarich if someone must have b'mechudash Wow, that tomorrow there's a there's a 7 up you know. Was this new you didn't know before? How would you call the actually call this question mark to exclamation mark like like you didn't know before. I mean this this is not to me. I don't mind if you get sharpened so the Rabbi doesn't matter it's it's a source. But this is talking about about Was the Rabbi was the Rabbi sign the letter? I'm sorry to say of course he did. Did they have a choice? He did. I'm sorry there's a I remember one time a letter was prepared uh also like this he was giving it to the Rabbi was properly in time. And uh the Rabbi gave it out he signed it. In the morning by dollars this was Grossman from Migdal Haemek I forgot his name this are called air whatever it's called. >> Migdal Haemek Migdal Haemek and he you know he passed by the dollars he had a dinner I think that day Sunday someone in Manhattan I don't know which dinner and the Rabbi turns around ask Rabbi Groner did you give him he tells me did you get your letter the guy says no the Rabbi turns to Rabbi Groner and Rabbi Groner says I'll give it to him later. And the Rabbi says now. Um Hey we tried our best to He went out. to work Yeah he went away for a short time by dollars and he gave them the letter we tried our best uh everyone working very hard including Rabbi Groner I mean this was uh a day and night job. It's interesting uh the telegrams of the Rabbi I didn't do them. Actually for a bunch of years Simon Jacobson did them. And there again what they did is like the good olden times with the letters they would take a telegram from a previous year change the date and telegram it says is the is the haggadah sameach whatever it is. And the Rebbe would add the possuk. I don't I never figured out what happened. The last telegram of the Rebbe which is Chanukah Tav Shin Nun Bet. I don't know [snorts] why. Reb Itche Ganel called me was the middle of the day I should come and prepare. I didn't want to ask him why the guy is not doing it whatever it is. I came back. I was working that time in Williamsburg. I came back and I prepared based on what the Rebbe had spoken that time. Uh a normal type type without the Rebbe having the possuk we know already from from from from different michtovim. And was uh normal telegram. Punkt that telegram the Rebbe was magiah added tons of stuff. Actually I have to say that that's one one thing I miss out that I feel bad till today that I don't have a copy of it because uh Reb Itche Ganel took it away right away. When I finished talking about the Rebbe's ksav yad um we had no copy machines. One time the Rebbe was magiah a shtikel sicha I think for even was maybe a tzain teives brocha to brochim. The Rebbe was magiah and when we gave him the second hagahah there was a lot of the words of the Rebbe written away that you have to figure out only only according to the teichen because it was so hard written off the the corner paper. But this was a few words that time that one word we couldn't figure out. With all the effort we couldn't so by the we gave him the galus. It was one page. Um so I suddenly get a telephone call. Uh Reb Itche Ganel tells me the Rebbe wants to see his hagahah what he wrote. I grabbed fast the original. I barely made an uh uh uh uh a wet copy very unclear copy. I wasn't going to hold back and I ran give it to our client our client called me a little lady went into the rabbit and the rabbit looked and looked and looked and he says I myself couldn't figure out what it says here but the rabbit wrote whatever he wanted like he was surprised and he wanted to see what did I write here why can't they figure out but uh this is uh Yeah that happens sometimes that people that uh writing the Rebbe's couldn't decipher what the Rebbe was writing. Uh we mostly figured out in the later years after Gimel Tammuz a lot of times things are printed um Kisvei Yad and uh the people that are from there I'm talking to people that know what they're doing can't figure out I I I had a shtikel chush in it I remember times that our client would ask me to help him figure out for himself uh what the Rebbe wrote. I don't know how but I had a shtikel chush uh it's like the one in Adam the chicken you do kaparos looks in the siddur uh Yes this this what it is. Okay. Ashkoach. Ashkoach Rebbe Nachman thank you. Not a rabbi thank you very much.