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He Compared Israel To Putin And I Had An Answer

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So, there's a lot of reports coming out, certain ministers inside the Israeli government, and I I don't even know if this is a consensus of the Israeli government, but Smotrich, Ben-Gvir, people like that are coming out saying that they want the Israeli military to annex the land that has been taken in both Gaza and southern Lebanon. Um Do you think this is going to happen? What do you think the ramifications would be for the region if that did occur? >> Well, I'll say this. I think uh it's an interesting framing of the question that there would be ramifications. Are they serious about taking this land because it it does leave out the context, right? I mean we're forgetting what prompted Israel to have to even think about or consider restoring or reclaiming land given it's the security threats that are posed to it, the acts of aggression that continually happen against Israel. Oftentimes I find that these conversations and these types of questions, you know, they start in the middle of the story. Like, what's been going on in northern in in in Lebanon in the south of Lebanon for the past 3 years? And we forget that, you know, Hezbollah launching rockets repeatedly at Israel over and over again, having to evacuate the north of Israel is going to have consequences, and it's perfectly, to me, reasonable to presume to to assume that after acts of aggression, there are going to be territorial changes to secure Israel and secure its citizens. >> a matter of international law that that sort of thing doesn't happen anymore. >> Well, isn't it a violation of international law to attack your neighbor, to fire rockets at them? >> And no doubt. And Israel absolutely should defend itself. And I, you know, I but I don't disagree with that, but I think the argument is think what where people are having problems now with Lebanese situation in particular is, you know, you've you've gone in there, that the Israeli military has, and they've they've they called the Gaza model, which has a specific, you know, meaning in the minds of many people. >> Right. >> And uh they're now saying what And originally, by the way, I believe over the summer there was discussions of a pilot program with the Lebanese army where they were going to hand over some never happened. Um but fundamentally, you're not supposed to take territory like that in the modern age. >> Oh, well, you're not supposed to just take territory take take territory you know, in the way that Vladimir Putin does it and just invading and taking it for no purpose at all. But if you're continually attacked by such a neighboring territory from a terrorist regimes in such neighboring territories, then it's a perfectly legitimate to me to see why that >> That is literally what Putin says though about Ukraine. You do know that that it's a terrorist regime that I have to go in there to defend myself. I mean, it's literally what the Russian government >> Two Two different regimes can say different two the same thing and in one case can be true and in one case it can't. Just because Putin makes that characterization of Ukraine can make it not true in that case and it very much is true. I don't think you would deny that Hezbollah is a terrorist regime. >> I'm not No, I'm not saying that and I I don't think many people would disagree with with that. >> Right. So, I'm just I'm just saying that Putin saying that doesn't disqualify what I'm saying about Hezbollah. I'm making the argument that when you attack your neighbor and you are committed to its destruction, when Hezbollah is committed to Israel's destruction and fires from Lebanon and Lebanon Lebanon's sovereignty is compromised by Hezbollah, Israel then I think you you forego those rights and protections under international law when you violate the sovereignty of your neighbor. So, like in the Gaza Strip with Hamas and in Lebanon with Hezbollah, that is the cause of why Israel has to secure this territory and I think it's perfectly legitimate that there are consequences to acts of aggression. >> [music] [music]