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So, there's a lot of reports coming out,
certain ministers inside the Israeli
government, and I I don't even know if
this is a consensus of the Israeli
government, but Smotrich, Ben-Gvir,
people like that are coming out saying
that they want the Israeli military to
annex the land that has been taken in
both Gaza and southern Lebanon.
Um
Do you think this is going to happen?
What do you think the ramifications
would be for the region if that did
occur?
>> Well, I'll say this. I think uh it's an
interesting framing of the question that
there would be ramifications. Are they
serious about taking this land because
it it does leave out the context, right?
I mean
we're forgetting what prompted Israel to
have to even think about or consider
restoring or reclaiming land given it's
the security threats that are posed to
it, the acts of aggression that
continually happen against Israel.
Oftentimes I find that these
conversations and these types of
questions, you know, they start in the
middle of the story. Like, what's been
going on in northern in in in Lebanon in
the south of Lebanon for the past 3
years? And we forget that, you know,
Hezbollah launching rockets repeatedly
at Israel over and over again, having to
evacuate the north of Israel is going to
have consequences, and it's perfectly,
to me, reasonable to presume to to
assume that after acts of aggression,
there are going to be territorial
changes to secure Israel and secure its
citizens.
>> a matter of international law that that
sort of thing doesn't happen anymore.
>> Well, isn't it a violation of
international law to attack your
neighbor, to fire rockets at them?
>> And no doubt. And Israel absolutely
should defend itself. And I, you know, I
but I don't disagree with that, but I
think the argument is think what where
people are having problems now with
Lebanese situation in particular is, you
know, you've you've gone in there, that
the Israeli military has, and they've
they've they called the Gaza model,
which has a specific, you know, meaning
in the minds of many people.
>> Right.
>> And uh they're now saying what And
originally, by the way, I believe over
the summer there was discussions of a
pilot program with the Lebanese army
where they were going to hand over some
never happened.
Um but fundamentally, you're not
supposed to take territory like that in
the modern age.
>> Oh, well, you're not supposed to just
take territory take take territory you
know, in the way that Vladimir Putin
does it and just invading and taking it
for no purpose at all. But if you're
continually attacked by such
a neighboring territory from a terrorist
regimes in such neighboring territories,
then it's a perfectly legitimate to me
to see why that
>> That is literally what Putin says though
about Ukraine. You do know that that
it's a terrorist regime that I have to
go in there to defend myself. I mean,
it's literally what the Russian
government
>> Two Two different regimes can say
different two the same thing and in one
case can be true and in one case it
can't. Just because Putin makes that
characterization of Ukraine can make it
not true in that case and it very much
is true. I don't think you would deny
that Hezbollah is a terrorist regime.
>> I'm not No, I'm not saying that and I I
don't think many people would disagree
with with that.
>> Right. So, I'm just I'm just saying that
Putin saying that doesn't disqualify
what I'm saying about Hezbollah. I'm
making the argument that when you attack
your neighbor and you are committed to
its destruction, when Hezbollah is
committed to Israel's destruction and
fires from Lebanon and Lebanon Lebanon's
sovereignty is compromised by Hezbollah,
Israel then I think you you forego those
rights and protections under
international law when you violate the
sovereignty of your neighbor. So, like
in the Gaza Strip with Hamas and in
Lebanon with Hezbollah, that is the
cause of why Israel has to
secure this territory and I think it's
perfectly legitimate that there are
consequences to acts of aggression.
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