All You Need To Do Is Do It with Mac Schlesinger On Podsitivity with Eli Weber

learn networking party I'm fasting 16 hours a day eating only 8 hours a day so food is a very interesting topic everybody was just running out for the food it was like amazing because I started in B&H v& Photo wow I see a deal I buy we we figure it out later why do people buy jeans that I just do doesn't make sense all you need to do let do [Music] it welcome to another episode of positivity thank you for watching I want to remind you to please like share and subscribe to the podcast that helps us out that helps build the community Mac you have a genuine happiness a good energy from the moment I met you is this something that you work on is it naturally within you how do you keep that positive energy and vibe that most people when they see you say I want to have that kind of energy interesting question because to be honest because you you know it because when I when I'm with you like yeah there's something happening I feed up from you but um I don't know it's just that I uh I think it's because I I don't think I don't take things too serious like to uh like personally serious it's like let me let me is that from experience like you've had certain things in your life yeah yeah I think the past certain things came and whatever so it made me feel like you know what let everything go and wow just enjoy surrender mhm wow that's that's really beautiful I've told you many times that you really look like perfect you have beautiful Pious you have uh nice dimples you look great how does it feel to be such a perfect human like some would say like God showed off when he made you something like that how does it feel to be like perfect I don't know it's good to know because for me B when I walk to I I have no idea how I look like I'm like okay I'm just another person the first time you're hearing such a nice cam so I heard like like H people hint but you like I love you man I have my good friend maxing I've known him for many years and Mac is uh is the founder and producer the arranger of many exhibits that we know now uh the brand the umbrella brand is called Power Hour events some of the shows that they do is Healthcare show and they do the obviously the the re Beach and the redeal which is very popular and is always sold out and way too many people show up and in a good sense um and they had the kosher paloa last year which was very popular among many other businesses and things that he's involved he's also a very successful and talented musician remember last year you had a kasana with mul actually in the backyard right that was a nice wedding I think that was Mitzvah so you do a lot of Mitzvah and he plays multiple instruments and maybe we'll get to see later um so I'm very happy and most of all Mac is just a happy and exciting person and I felt like it's just in time now not that you're a clown but I'm feeling like for petum when the energy in the mood is positive is uh is to bring up some somebody that has such a positive energy so I'm curious Mac um um about the shows I think that that people which is what I didn't mention yet in the intro he is also an entrepreneur that I think I did mention it so an entrepreneur which means that he's constantly busy with business ideas new events New Concepts um and in the entrepreneurial Spirit he's very well known on LinkedIn and on Instagram and on different platforms as a a hustler a creative person so um what are some of the things that you're working on now I know there's a show coming up in another three weeks I think right a r deal yeah it's interesting because at this point I'm kind of confused like what's coming because like non stop right I saw eight shows coming up eight shows that this guy I don't know how do you sleep at night by the way eight shows I know if I have one podcast coming up I can get a little bit like stressed out how do you do eight shows where every show thousands of people show up and every show is an entirely different concept uh you mentioned to me working on a show oh I saw this already I think it's public uh a show just for women owners I think that's genius cuz there's so many so talk to us a little bit about the shows and how you you sleep at night it's different it's a different path but but uh I don't because first of all um obviously uh I'm I'm not doing it by myself I have two great partners that we work together and we we each push each other right in different directions everyone has their specialty and their thing and we together we we go go fast and we move that's a that's a big help how we can like do so many things at once but uh you know I mean I'm not sure if you kind of have time to go back when it started like how it started and how people got excited and it's basically yeah when did people get excited about shows I mean it started I think with Amazon shows yeah okay so it's basically the people they keep uh pushing us like we have this we have that so it's like a yeah it started all with Amazon because the three of us we all like uh our companies I mean our services whatever is on Amazon like I mean the last 10 years I only did Amazon like I was only about Amazon I started as a seller then I went into a service I open a few service companies and then um Consulting whatever so as I got a little B knowing in Amazon people started asking how about you do an event it was actually right before Co we started doing events but for me personally I was like I don't I know that part but I was by by Nature I'm like acquired just for myself a person so it wasn't like I'm not I'm going to do events I'm not I'm going to be all over I'm going to be a public and this oh wow so it was a hard thing until um was actually that right before Co and my partner Joe wall he we used to be neighbors like right across and I think it started about uh there one like U by Co was no events no weddings so I have like a big backyard here in town Riven so we um people ask me do weddings I I did a wedding over there I did a few events so by one of the events Joel came and uh we were there together trying like making like all the status and this and then it popped up the idea how about we do the same thing for Amazon like it was I think it was a real event we do the same thing for Amazon I mean we didn't think like a Expo and the whole thing we just think like like a nice backyard chill and bring together bring people together yeah networking and some uh you know and um so we started really thinking about it and working on it like behind the scenes this and then we decided that um this is how we this is how we brought in our third partner UD ssin so he did an event I think a year or two years before Lakewood for his whatever organization hope organization and um so we we decided you know what he did it already let's reach out to him let's see what he has to say so I think he reached out to him and he said that by the way uh he didn't do it for two years yeah it was two years before he didn't do it for two years and he he wanted to do it again but he wasn't like sure like if if you can do it again it's if people interested whatever so he said that we are interested we want to do it how about we do it together yeah but he said that if he's doing it he doesn't want to do like like a party like a back he wants to do like a real event like with Expo so we were like because at that point I had a very successful um Service Company for Amazon like a bu busy with it all day I was like I couldn't see myself starting a new business now and and get busy with events and [Music] we kept talking with each other and we kept thinking about it and the more we spoke about it we got more excited and uh and uh we did the first event like 3 months after started planning in Lake wased you know what let's do it let's see what happened and we did it we put together a small event in that the eagle Rich whatever and people got excited saw the energy the the the whole vibe there plus the business part of it and get telling us and we would do it again do it bigger do it so I think the next event was in Miami already like Florida so it was nice so from from there we went on and on and on I think we did like uh probably seven or eight Amazon events and then we really then uh I don't know the whole industry shifted and then and then we got approached by other Industries to uh you you guys do amazing events how about you our industry and what made the events amazing like why did was it because what you brought the connections or the ideas that you had or the energy that you brought What defined that those amazing events in the beginning early on so uh early on it was way different than now I mean now it's like we putting like so much effort in making a quality I think like back back in that I think it was more like the like the the vibe that that we put in because we we I personally have that nature and Joel and we have that nature that we can do things like just like a um standard regular we have to do things out of the box right it has to be something more than than this so what the event I guess people felt the energy like it's when they walk in I felt like they're not about just another random Expo it's boring it makes business you know I get the business C it's like it's like a Vibe yeah wow very nice and is it is it do people come to these events you find they come for the people or they come for the food or for the music or what's the uh I mean so in the beginning it wasn't so like a strict with who we want to invite who who we let in who we don't let in so it was more less open everyone it was it was a big mixture that's why our slogan used to be like like um learn Network and party like everyone came for different reason some people came to learn some people came to network some people came to party so it was open for everyone and then we started doing the other events in different Industries Like Home Care Healthcare real estate and so these industry it needs to be more like a exclusive because the vendors they expect like a um they expect like real a real Roi like an invest they don't want people that come to body and walk the floor so right now at this point we're very strict with the attendees who we invite who we let in we don't let in it has to be like a real Target you have to know that they will see an Roi yeah and if not then you right you're just wasting the yeah wow so now you're still busy and involved with doing other companies or you still busy running some of your companies or the shows kind of took over so in in the beginning I was very busy with other companies I mean that that was my main uh thing but as I got busy with events events takes a lot of a lot of SP a lot of time and um so to bis I yeah I started shifting over from the other companies and um and got more busy with the events but um meanwhile I found Partners to be involved like other companies so they can run it and I I'm like a yeah I I found it very interesting I went to my first event around two years ago I think and I remember somebody invited me uh it was Mor longer he does some events also uh more focused on just like business networking and he invited he's like Ellie you have good energy come over and I was hesitant when I went I had no idea but I was like I got invited it it stroke my ego like okay I'm going to go I remember going there and the amount of people that walked over to me to tell me that they know me from here and there social media I was like so amazed you know um and it it that right away gave me that feeling so I ended up making the first show I went to I ended up meeting uh yasi with toys few and it became my client for a couple of months I did his social media so that was that right away showed me wow look at this like it can go places and then I met uh uh somebody else uh then I met the owner of onut and he also we did his social media for for the month of pedm um but so I started seeing that wow it has people I can meet people I can connect with people but I can also actually make real business from it so I saw that networking events is very strong and we know now that networking events can bring like crazy deals um I actually heard this story from one from B Park they used to ask him why do you go to every single show he had like a plastic company or something and I asked him why did you why do you go to every show he said because my plastic company was one of the companies that I had it was a little company that was bought off and I made like $40 million of it cuz one person came to a show saw the company and the setup and the things that we offered so they bought off the company so people don't understand that when they go to a networking event it's it yes it is a hit or miss but it kind of is like you can get very lucky at these shows you don't you don't exactly know how but you can get lucky it's not just about how many numbers you're getting and how many business cards so I I do agree shows shows are are uh super powerful yeah it's funny because I always say like it's it's not only about our events like any event that I go that I go to sometimes it's even like backyard event like small networking event you always come out with some valuable like a connection or or you hear something from someone it's like very powerful yeah right especially when you open yourself up that way when you know when you have that kind of attitude that uh that yeah I I did notice that food by events people people take that very to heart and I understand why most people most of us including myself eat for emotional reasons so they come to an event I mean now I sto that's why I can say that most of my life I ate for emotional reasons now I'm doing the intermittent fasting you heard of that yeah so I'm not eating now I'm only drinking I I don't eat from from uh after 8:00 until the next day 12:00 so I'm fasting 16 hours a day eating only 8 hours a day and I'm doing it for the discipline like my mouth is shut and and it's funny how I notice when I get home hungry what reason what comes up like I'm hungry I want to eat to fill what what do you what is but but can you talk about food at events cuz I know that that's like huge I remember the ree Beach I went to and you were serving food and everybody was just running out for the food it was like amazing because you see like older people younger people men women everybody's rushing to the food and over there you did very smart cuz people were hungry and then I remember within a few minutes you made a phone call to somebody they bought meat boards and fish there was so much food over there but what's the story with food what's uh so food is a very interesting topic are you a f by the way yeah same I'm not sure no it's my fault I'm not sure if I looked but by the intimate fasting is also something that that I I I did recently um I did it also more for the dis like like the mental discipline like you don't have to eat now you can't eat how did it work for you by the way it worked amazing like I lost like a I think 30 lb wow how long did you do it for I started after P I'm done after I started doing it and I worked out a little bit and then uh about I was like uh a way different wow it's also the mental like it makes it so so much stronger then yeah so oh so the show yeah so the food shows is it's very um it what is sensitive because it's people are like food makes the mood right but but at the same time people don't come forood like they come to make business especially the the exhibitors they come to get business but it's like a balance like a for business but has to be food so it's something that we constantly learn like when to serve food when to start serving food beginning of the day middle of the day so it's something it's a hit is but by now we we getting there especially you mentioned the Reb last year yeah I mean it sounded good for whatever I guess you didn't feel it not not everyone felt it but there was a big a big Miss with the with the food that whatever it was also with the timing it came late and um it was all at once so people you have to wait in the line so there's something also that we keep improving it's all about in my opinion the reason why the show was so successful and why it's so successful this year is because of that thing with the food because it gives us something to it's like when you go to Montreal and you have a flat tire on the way and you remember that trip forever I had a few years ago I went to Mont took us 12 hours to get there was a snowstorm I can never forget that trip if everything go more just like we we were we I spoke about this I remember you were sitting at the show over there together with Joel and and Y he said his name Yuda and and um I remember talking to you guys telling you like how perfect this is cuz I feel like Joel like I love him he gets I feel like he gets so he's so invested in the show he gets knocked out when the show comes and that's my next question I feel like when I go to events after a couple of hours their their the drainage is is unbelievable so why does that happen number one and how do you deal with it why do people get so exhausted he deals with it with the couch yeah right you always find somewhere to take a nap I love the C people don't realize it comes from I'll I'll get into it it's it's a real thing because because event I mean for us with event on day the event it's after like 3 months or working like nonstop you always there the day before usually you s that week like we work not we don't sleep like it's nonstop we prepping everything make sure everything get some time hiring people like it's a whole thing so on the day of the event we kind of like exhausted but we we uh we have to be there like fully like people should should notice that we are exhausted so so that's so for me the couch especially the it's not only the C it's also the day after event my partners know when I the day after they can't talk to me like I'm like shut like shut and I think especially me more than them because I think it has to do with the introvert extrovert like when you get your energy for me I'm I'm an introvert so when when I I'm like between people like I talk a lot people I my energy gets drained so wow after the event usually I I sleep over e either whereever somewhere next to the the venue and I'm I'm like all by myself I don't want to talk to anyone I don't want to hear any about anything wow and so so the couch is also the couch happened by accident by one of the EV that I was like in the middle of the day I was shut down and I I couldn't I I didn't I didn't realize I'm all of a sudden someone wakes me up like show a video so since then like sometimes it's a joke they were showing you what was the story they were showing you that that they were looking for you were looking for me all of a sudden they find me on a couch on a couch and for me it was like a I need like a middle of the day like like an energy like like it shows how real you are that you were like that little kid that zones off by the Mitzvah you were on the couch that's what it was yeah yeah so it's very exhausting mentally especially especially for me as you know I'm not really like like the I mean I like to talk to people but it's it drains me like that so wow but so how do you handle it I mean do you do you have like a specific procedure I can tell you how I deal with it mhm I go to shows and I don't spend over there more than 60 Minutes people don't know this they think is dark but to show no no no no I lately I go there another time another thing I changed is I don't go there to to to give I go there to get she don't bus no I'm there to get Kim very good no I can't do it because I have to be there all day and the night before and the night after so so that's why like the the day after I use it to recharge yeah and then we go right to the next event wow stop um what about um I'm curious do you does these shows give you anxiety do you like catastro um um ruminate or catastrophize like how bad it can go or not are you are you an anxious person in general would you consider yourself that yeah I'm kind of relative because on one side I Tred to have but but naturally it's always like that especially in the event because until like the the day before the EV you have no idea how it's going to be because people usually register like the last last day yeah what's up with that by the way why do I mean I can understand I registered last minute but how does it work for you guys everyone says the same thing I can't I last so why but why I mean you think that people just don't know what they're going to be doing that day or their mood I know for me it's like a mood thing because people don't don't like to to commit before you know this so it's but then the day off the fomo kicks in and they run to register and so so that's why for us it's very hard to know because first of we have to order things according to how many people we're having so we really have to do with we talking we going to have 800 people whatever people want to have you have to Mish as they say guest mate yeah because we have to order food accordingly we have to so that's why some of the events like that event we have we had to run middle of the event we have that event you was like was like limited to I think 500 people but the day of people showed up and you guys didn't know what to say even at the door like it was but we made it happen we called a few vendors and remember yeah yeah some people showed up and it was just it was mhm it was also very cool you set up a Bachi over there yeah yeah that was crazy it's crazy IDE stachi station and a smoke station and is it being in the same location this year no oh wow it's not going to be outdoors okay so many the of the people people of the listeners that we have are entrepreneurs and I'm curious if you can give them some advice or perhaps talk about how you started as an entrepreneur when did you did you have you probably worked a job once yeah what was that job and how did you get into business and how does the how do you deal with the ups and downs I don't know he remind me of some trauma and stuff it it's good uh to go to go back and remind yourself like usually you don't because you always focus on what's next what's next but then slow down go back see where where you started what happened you know how you how you go so for me I'm trying to remember so I started like in working with her in general I started in B&H B&H Photo wow like every other wow very nice I didn't know that yeah so I was still a b back then like I don't know like 50 years ago let's say and I was stting to B&H and you were B 15 years ago okay 13 whatever so uh yeah so I was staring the and then then I got married and I was working upgrading like the next job I was like I had to dream okay being H um I didn't know more so I was like okay eventually I'm going to grow I'm going to become a manager I'm going to What You Do by being H by the way so I started since I was a I was starting the lowest job in the warehouse spping the back like wow you say like B&H W that's crazy they put me in so when I got married few months after I um they they brought me up to sales like sales on the store so I came out ice vest the different this and how did that work with your nature of being an introvert so so so that's also I I needed a couch every year yeah so was interesting because I had to speak with people and actually helped me like um socially like start talking because I I was always like quiet and Sh behind behind the scenes so it pushed me like to start talking to people and get comfortable with people so so yeah so I did that eventually uh I got bored of bored of it I was like okay what's next this is what I'm going to do the rest of my life makes sense so I started dreaming and thinking I remember I used to run run out for my lunch break in Manhattan some I don't know like I searching online for um a career coach like I I was since I was a Booker I was out of out from Monro I didn't know what my specialty what my talent is no idea so I I was I was searching so I went to that that coach and I told him listen I want to become something I don't know what but I feel like I'm stuck here like I don't know what to do whenever we started asking questions think that didn't really do much but at least open me up like the idea that you want something so as I was searching things came up like I I was know that I was good with like uh phones internet and I it was no internet and finding things and selling things and this so I started playing around with some online stuff um I remember one day interesting story that uh I have one he's like old he was always believing me for somehow and he told me one day that you can do like you're very good like a online selling I think one day should go to a mall or whatever buy stuff a chief and and figure out like jump so one day I I woke up like 5:00 in the morning and I went to woodrey com Monro like w com mall and I didn't know what I'm going to do he told me go to every store and find deals and try to sell it so this is what I did I woke I went to the mall I started shopping and about jeans and shirts and hats I I had no idea back then I mean numbers wise I wasn't sure like what means a good deal profit I see a deal I buy it we fig we figure it out later but it's funny that that's that day I also started realizing that once you jump into something things start coming away because for example like I remember I was walking around the mall I was like okay the wall is there but what's uh what what else can I do to find deals like U my mind started opening oh I need to find deals so I remember I was searching online cheap clothing uh locally and whatever then I found about a uh how do you even have a smartphone then 13 years ago okay the iPhone because I I don't know if I uh yeah so searching good deals the pal centy remember the pal Cent so yeah I Wasing online and then I I I saw a store it's called Uh uh Thrift Shop okay good I don't know at it's like a a shop that has like all like secondhand clothing secondhand stuff so it was interesting to me so I was like okay you know I search the address I left the mall I went over there I came in there I saw like a big store with a lot of um clothing Nice Clothing like nice quality bags like brand name bags glasses everything but they're cheap I was like wow maybe this is like a gold M I know am I the only one that knows about the store like and um so I bought I bought a lot of things I remember I still have some stuff in my in my basement over just just as a souvenir side bottom line I took home the stuff I had a deal had some deals and I uh I bought like a camera was being AG right I bought a used camera and I took some pictures put it on on my eBay account and it started selling like people's really yeah I was so shock like why do people buy a jeans that I just we in this doesn't make sense so but it was interesting like it gave me the confidence wow it's working like a all you need to do is do it right and it works all you need to do is do it this is the name of the of the podcast all you need to do is do it yeah that's what it is W I also love that you said one good thing opens you up and leads you to so many other good things that's amazing people don't get it like just start yeah stepp they look for the logo and they look for the website they just do it just sell yeah the same with the man so sometimes we jump into industry we have no idea people I can see that you guys come up with a name and then the rest yeah like I said all see the reaction see the opportunities that come wow okay so you started selling on eBay and then I guess so funny eBay is still surviving still a platform back then was very more popular that was the only thing was still like it wasn't even I didn't even know about Amazon so um yeah so as I start I kept doing I remember I was in b& so I used to go with the bus and I had to ship out the stuff like all the stuff so by b& there's a post that was right right right next oh you literally did everything like I came to Bish with a with a shopping bag stuff iage stuff like Jeff Bezos Max Bezos yeah I used to came in the bag and then my launch B I used to go across the street to the post ship it out wow fun so that that's I think also the thing that uh I don't know if I mean I'm sure not only I have every this has it that you do something then you get bored of it like you want more like it was so that's also like I kept doing it I was like okay what's next I want something bigger something more uh so I started looking into Amazon started becoming like like a thing so uh I started getting interested in it because at that point I wanted to quit being it I was like I'm stuck here I don't see any future here yeah I'm just wasting my days here so I was looking for something but I didn't have something to push me out and give me you know let me do something so I remember that um for Amazon it started becoming like a thing so um some started doing like courses whatever so I took one of the courses just get a feel of it and I was really getting excited about it like wow you can bringing stuff from China I felt like like a real like a bus from China I'm selling it built my own brand I made my logo so I was doing like fire time from being and then um kept getting more more like I have to leave so and it was interesting that that that I felt like I can't just quit being age just to go sell on Amazon when I'm not making money and so aside I lived in mon that point I need to find some sort of like a part-time job to do it so I was looking for jobs and then I found a job in in a restaurant a steak in Lake in in Mony I had no idea about the restaurant and nothing so I came to interview he like yeah this guy okay he looks good I think he can manage restaurant so I could be an age all of a sudden and I'm going to work in a restaurant and meanwhile I'm I'm going to work like a in Amazon so by the time I was working in the restaurant I was supposed to get trained like a manag and but mean I was busy like I was s to the Amazon thing wow shine this but it it didn't took long for the restaurant to realize okay this guy this guy is not one day I came there it was actually a heavy snowstorm I came like a more I wanted to show them I'm coming like even if it's if it's the weather I'm not supposed to come but I'm here okay the guy Waits me by the door with a paper uh s you're a great guy but this place is not for you a paper with three they're actually nice to give me like some option of three options I know they're looking for for a work here maybe you can try wow and all of a sudden one day to the next WoW and um I was like wow still like think should go back what did you drive at that time I'm just curious uh I think it was still the old station weding I had like a station wow rvo then I had uh um the orange B remember the I don't know um yeah so all of a sudden out of a job so I I didn't know where to go like should I go back to be age after all I'm already married I think I had two kids at that one wow I have expenses like I can't just be without a job like randomly and what about sing Amazon like should I take it should I start taking it seriously and get it so I did that I took an office a basement in in mon think was $200 a month I was like you know what I don't have a job anyways let me try to focus on that let's see where it takes me so I was getting more into it into it and this and meanwhile I was doing like a um I signed up to all car services mon see I told them that whenever they you need a trip let me know like a long distance let me know so I remember I used to run out a trip to Manhattan trip to here and there meanwhile I was I was working as you were driving your clients on the FDR you were checking your phone and look for deal my Chinese manufacturer just as F okay all those other customers I I know you have to you have to get to the hospital yeah F and and uh yeah so I started I got into the Amazon and and I got more into it then after a few months doing it I was really like okay wait a second I'm doing Amazon here I'm not making money I was making money but for the expenses that I had like mon two kids this so it was hard so I was kind of at a stage where what am I doing here I need I need to get like a real I need to make at least $2,000 of week in order to survive I was making really like a few so um because I I reinvested like I expanded new brand so I was kind of forced to take another job I couldn't believe like I was such a high there because I I was I think uh over a year no approximately A Year Without a job without a boss I I mean from one side I felt so like Rel like my own but other side there's no money like yeah have so I had I had to take a job I was looking for searching and then I found a job since I had some experience with Amazon some people knew about it so they told me so someone had like a big amazon company and he's he know that he he needed someone for that like to run their this so I um I went for interview I showed them what I did like the pictures and the graphics and the content and the creative stuff so he told me you know what we need someone to so they were more active on eBay they wanted to get it strong on Amazon so I said I want someone to take our eBay stuff and put it onto Amazon and focus and build it up so that's what I did and I think I was doing a great job there but also after a year doing it I was like getting born I like okay what's next like uh I need I need to to grow something so I went to the guy I told him like listen at this point I feel like a I'm not sure what I'm doing I built up your business I'm still making the same amount of money $800 a week yeah and it doesn't make sense either I I get a race like you make me like I don't know make me the a partner or something you know it should be worth it yeah so he said yeah maybe is it kept pushing it pushing it and then he's like I saw I saw that it's not going anywhere so meanwhile while um I guess it was was an ex uh worker cooworker over there from that company he left and he started working a different company and he knew basically the the work that I did with that company with the listing the Amazon listings the content the pictures and building up the the the the SEO and stuff like that so he asked me on the side to do it for him for his company like on the side and I I was doing it and uh it was nice and then somehow it leaked out among amaz sell that I'm doing listings yeah I had no idea groups so WhatsApp so I L actually do listing so people started calling like I he you do listings like no Lis and I say I have a job like what and then then I saw people are interested I was like wow maybe maybe it's a sign that that this is what what it is because I wanted to leave the job because the I didn't see any potential and here I have the the the experience from listings so s ask so one day call me up if I do listing I de saidd you know what let me say yes let me see let's see what happens so I said yes yeah I'm doing listing yeah yeah how can I help you he told me listen I I have a lot I have a big company a lot of these things I'm going to give you one product to as a test and we'll see how it goes so he gave me a product um and I I did a listing like over over the weekend like Friday what sh business I was working and he was happy and he told me by the way I have okay I'm very happy with the job here's like 30 more products to work to make listings wow I was like in that point I was like okay wait a second I have 30 listings to do I have a full time job and the listing has to be done in a week like I can't tell him like it's going to be done in three months because I have a job he didn't know I have a job that this is why I'm doing for a business yeah and I pretended that I this is my business and uh so I try to figure out whatever and that kind of pushed me to you know me can qu on job start doing it yeah so this is what I did I I wanted the next I came to the office I didn't even plan I was like I'm sitting here just stood off my chair I went to this office I told him I I was so nervous I kept walking back should I go should I do it should I not I knocked in I car I I told him listen uh this is not working for me I'm leaving they asked me to stay for two weeks for know whatever to train someone so I did it and meanwhile I was doing working all night to finish the the listings yeah and I did it sence at that time I quit and the the listings the the listings were done I was like okay I qu my job I did the listing what's not like I don't I don't have more listings so I told the guy they you have more listings like uh didn't want to get stuck with nothing so he said yeah I mean first let's let's get 30 started and and at that point I I quit my job and I felt like I have to do something to get out of it like to get to tell people that I do it so that that was actually the point where I started um I got the push to to get out there like LinkedIn side of cuz I felt forced like I need to do something to tell people that I'm doing it um so yeah so I did that and and and I started posting on uh WhatsApp groups like Amazon groups I made made up made up like messages I made name quickly like I got best seller list a logo myself quickly and I I was trying to pretend that I'm doing it and it's funny because people started call me for because the Amazon sellers were like real companies and they started calling me for a meeting okay let's let's P down the listing guy yeah and let's see what it can help us I had no idea what all I know is like I made the listings and I didn't have like a real business and stuff so I had to pretend and it was working I I built up a nice business uh Amazon marketing started from the listing then I add had a picture a video that I added all these different stuff so became like a real thing and yeah so that's that that's when actually I got started getting active on LinkedIn and then social media like it's just to get a word out and all of a sudden it became a thing wow impressive story thank you for sharing I love it because it really describes the story not just of an entrepreneur but also of aish entrepreneur yeah right and yeah like and and this is you gave the story just the the the things that happened but nobody understands or will ever know the hardships the doubts the anxiety the times you needed to borrow money to pay your rent the times you didn't have money to bring home to your kids whatever it was the times that you needed that you went to the r cry over there that I need help or the times that you D obviously and ask them please please I want to see this and all these little coincidences they say you know Albert Einstein says coincidence is God's way of staying Anonymous P it's all it's all connected one to another so I think your story is is is really impressive um I'm curious a lot of people I I heard L lately that Amazon became a little bit more difficult do you still think it's an idea for people to go into Amazon if they if they can or did it become more difficult how did it change from when you started yeah I mean it's totally way different then I mean it's like two different Industries at this point from when I started to to how it's now and to be honest when people go people still call me about Amazon advice and I I will tell them if it's someone new like he just wanted to get into Amazon because he's bored from his job or he doesn't have a job I tell him not to do it like right and what can he do instead if he's wants to sell products or something like that is there is there a different platform to do it or is there a different way I mean like no cuz basically they they have to go in with a mindset that it's a real business because back in the days it wasn't a real business it was like a s thing okay I was working in the restaurant I can do Amazon and make money it was working it was working but now you can't do it you have to go into a full mindset like this is my business and you have to have the the the the money to invest and you need the time and patience to you need to have a real good product it has to be your own I guess yeah it's like a real business like like you open up any store a shoe store you know it's not like you just do it on the side whatever you have to build a store you have to invest money you have to wait you have to build marketing wait a few months to start making profit it's like a what do you think about all the small businesses that are happening now in a certain sense I see it as a little Amazon now like people are selling sourdough meat PS fish boards yeah what do you think of that industry so I mean I think the people that are doing it not doing it I mean they're doing it as a business but they're doing get out of a a it's more like a a passion or or a a talent that that anyway has and um it basically became a business the same thing with Amazon by the way if you anyway have a product if you invented a product you have to become an Amazon Seller so that that's for sure but it's not like it's not the other way around I'm going to become on Amazon seller because I don't like my job but why why am I sell people call what products can I sell I want to become rich it's not working so same thing with the all the s all this stuff usually started by either by chefs or Bakers whatever so they anyway have the product now how they make it a business so so that that's fine I mean the only question is how long the trend is going to be uh right do do you see money as a big driver for you for you personally or was it more like your freedom or yeah it's more for for me I'm I'm not I don't get motivated for money it's funny because I remember also in b& there used to be um at the workers that they sometimes being a they offered you to I mean you basically you got like a set wage if you wanted to get more money you had to um you had the option to work overtime I I never had that that that thing to work overtime to make more money I mean I was working overtime for my own own things because I wanted to build something I wanted to do something but not just to make more money because uh so money really isn't something that drives it's more like the of of you like a yeah how do you say achievement yeah achievement achievement and see people like I could really benefit from my stuff right I think that most people don't start businesses because they just don't know what they want to do so they give up right there you know what I'm saying right it's like I yeah I want to be free and I want to have my own business and I want to have my own idea but I just I'm not sure what I want to do or or they're just afraid to take the jump like you did you quit your job multiple times to just because you wanted to chase to your to your real dream to your real passion to be free yeah it's one you have to you have to be hungry like you you have to want you have to want to get you know get to the next Lev become do something right I remember for me personally it was just two years ago that I that I quit SL got fired from my job literally because so basically I was working in construction and I started just not showing up I used to show up at 12:00 leave at 3:00 you know like I wasn't really doing I made sure the work was getting done I wasn't I but like I I just started noticing then one day I get a call from my boss and he's like yeah we need to talk and I'm like yeah I know we need to talk and he's like sorry sorry I never thought I'll tell you this you know you were so good but you know there's no point in you staying here and I was I was very okay with it I was very into meditation I went in there like was all the way ready for what he's going to say mhm so I remember leaving the office I was very happy and I still had my one paycheck that I that I was going to live on I'm a Booker but so it it didn't you know it didn't bother me really but I remember it was right before P I went into p and then right after P I was like okay now shit's getting real yeah and I remember I remember I called them back I was like yeah sorry yeah I want my job back um and he he told me no problem wage I was making already at that point I was making almost $3,000 a week wow you know like for that I'm not coming back so I remember my story was and I was like and I remember I remember uh I was listening a lot to about Proctor Tony Robins about follow your dream and find out I was very motivated I had this list of 10 ideas that I wanted to do and one of the things were social media because I was doing it for mul all the years and I said uh you know so M told me you know you're good on social media help social media bus so start doing it so that that's what I did and I started reaching out to my friends family started doing sales so that's where I got introduced to the whole the zel VD like LinkedIn yeah LinkedIn inag I noticed that the more popular I am the more people will know me and trust me and you know and and the more they'll have channels to reach out to me and now we have I have a successful social media company with five six employees and we do social media for about 20 Brands now including clients Naturals clients ice cream and they love it because they don't have to be busy with social media while we do the work and they get all that exposure to to the world but the message is that you got to always take that jump but I'm saying it because I was so afraid like you know like that's how afraid I was and I remember my family was supportive but they were like you know Ellie you want a job the family they're trying to help you but at the same time they they don't bring you down they wouldn't protect you but they said I think you need a job I think you should go find a job but so you have to fight yourself no I'm not I'm not find right I heard it last week we had on the show David kbur you know David sure he's amazing he's a good coach he does branding and marketing he said a very good point that I never thought about he said if you're working a job that's okay some people are meant but work a job that will teach you something construction because I knew that construction pays you a lot it's the biggest paying job if I were really to be me I would work in a creative space I would work in a place where I can write or or do something creative so that's a message to everybody holding a job at least do something that you enjoy ex it's also interesting because uh when I when I took the job I told the Amazon job it's also when I was when I I was basically at the point icid I have to take a job I decid I'm not going to take just any job I'm going to take something that's it's going to help you in that do so at that point I was into Amazon I was like let me find something in Amazon and see how I can build this so so actually that job even though it seemed like very bad in the beginning but that that actually built me up like and and and and U made me start my own business like after that so if not their job I'm not sure have their business so it came from there so people have to be like patience and know that okay you know it's a process yeah I think patience is the key word people kind of rush you I I want to be successful yesterday right so right so M taught me one of the most important lessons and M every single day do something do something and he used to call me every day phone calls he was very good at that because I think that that's really what it comes and even somebody that has a job now and always tell them the research just make research get off of yoube whatever indry research how to make always tell this to people they ask me research that's step number one once you're confident you have that's what I used to do my business social media every day got a policy every day I had to watch at least 10 minutes of how to create content and visit vital great impressive story I'm curious in your mind I want to finish up but I'm curious in your mind do you like when CH do you come they call it compartmentalized like is in a different folder or is it like one mishmash and whenever you have patients you work towards V coming up what's happening you how do you work you have folders you have because I struggle in my business yeah it's very interesting behind the scenes because I mean obviously we have tons of groups on on WhatsApp go WhatsApp we have one General group for with you know the founders so on that group is like a whole M every every voice is like about a different V is but but but then we have separate organize groups for each event like each industry so each event has different partners so it's like and it's funny because on the computer like behind the SC I'm actually the one that organizes the company in like with folders and softw and systems oh wow so I'm actually building now some some systems behind the scenes to to make it easier like check and check and because so hard to keep track on each for example now we running four events and we have to order like small things like okay this event was ordered no this needs a different so how do you how do you so this try it's all systems is it in your nature though to be organized is like that the kind of person you are so it's interesting because it's also things that I find out now because while you do it you find out who you are yeah so it's actually what while you get pushed into something like force and it's not force like it's like okay we need to figure this out then you really shine like it comes out like you're real this so I figur that I can't do I mean although I'm over over the place like in my mind but I feel like okay things need to be organized this has to be here this has to be there so so that's why I took it on in the company I'm doing it like everything needs to have their their own folder their own file their own their own system like in that case it's very organized and and let's say if we have a phone call okay now we're talking about the healthcare show why are we doing Healthcare okay Healthcare I go over here this is all information on the H this is all so I mean it it takes time it seems like you love it though yeah I know it's funny sometimes I call myself a lazy entrepreneur like I'm just here to be an entrepreneur you seem very like passionate about it so much going on I really enjoy it I mean it's interesting go to the I don't know the inro part I like to sit in my computer by myself and just do things I mean not everyone even my partners they can do it like they have to run around certain things I I find that the same for me I love sitting after a long shower and just editing a vlog or a podcast I I can relate a little bit to that how do you deal with the ups and downs of Entrepreneurship like how many times do you ask yourself give up the show business go back to be an H I mean does that ever still creep into your mind yeah but but it's it's different if you have partners because partner I mean for me it's it's interesting because I I I never really wanted to have Partners I mean I never had Partners in my other businesses because I was like yeah I was going to ask how is it working with a I mean I'm a person by myself I like to do so that's why it's also something that I keep improving like the the communication and the things that I'm not used to it I wasn't used to it but if you have Partners one keeps motivating each other like when someone does the sales and he gets dismo because it doesn't work whatever then we come in we push and there's always exciting things especially with the events especially now we do multiple events it's always exciting there's always something new and something interesting it's not like every day the same thing that's a big thing and um yeah so so part is an interesting thing because it's it's sort of like a sh like you really have to have to find the the the right people and and also I remember when I started the the event business although I I never really wanted to work with Partners it was also something that I I mean I I never discuss it with them but I was thinking myself should I do it like should I should I CU I don't like to be committed to to anything like this I'm very free and right this so but then I realiz the I felt like the connection in the in the what do you call it like the relationship like everyone has a different different strength different things and it works fine so that's something you have to you have you have to make sure when when you look for a partner yeah some sometimes you think like okay with two guys we're chilling together we have the same personality the same it it doesn't always work um wow you really need to find some someone that has something that you don't have I mean everyone says it but but is it's so true it's like a puzzle like everyone the missing pieces like it comes together beautifully right I think the most valuable thing in life in general are people whether it's a friend sometimes a spouse children whatever it is but people underestimate people they don't understand what difference it makes every good thing in your life that happened generally speaking comes from another person so your connections to say your network is your net worth it's that kind of concept um you also love to travel right travel not I mean I love it but I I mean I I should be traveling more but is that your way of is that your outlook no not really I mean I don't travel a lot to be honest I have different things different Outlets definitely travel local sounds like you love the road so for for the events is we have to go check out venues so that's something you know for me I I usually sit in the office I told you like I like sitting in the office in my Compu do things but sometimes we have to go check venues and see and check it out whatever so that's when we take like a yeah it looks fun but it's it's a lot of hard work that uh we don't post we only post a pire right so uh yeah people know that you love instruments saxophone people see you here and there playing people know that no uh at least I know so how many instruments do you play first of all H I don't even know I don't know a number it's just when I go to the store I see a funky interesting instrument I buy it and I figing really when did you develop this Talent of of Music uh it's a good question um so I I never really I was never really really into music I mean obvious in a gr I was in Monro in South M she there was no such thing as playing so when I became like a older um old Booker this for B like I was kind of living by myself this so that's when I I started exploring myself like get to know myself wow and like I always like music but I never really had the chance and opportunity to to to really like play try an instrument I remember one day I was walking into a uh I was I was in Brooklyn somewhere it was like a rental like a instrument rental this so I used to hang out there I became friends with owners I used to go in there and and uh and test different different like play around with different instrument I felt so good because like I would see their wedding like wow now I hold it in my hand and and it's funny that I started playing I told the guy one say at first he didn't let me was like come on why do you know like you not got to touch my instruments something but I ke I kept feel feeling this the connection so I told him once I just want to try like I want to see you know I want to feel it and funny you know that I I picked it up and I I right away could play like wow so he was surprised you sitting he never told me about anything because I'm not talking lot I'm not saying what I do what I can so he didn't even know I was just smoing like randomly and all of a sudden he they I complain so uh I told him maybe you can buy it add an apartment whatever maybe I can rent it for a few weeks and and just playay around so he he he he rented me one I was sit in my apartment I was playing with I just just learned it quickly so um as I grew up you know I started more more instruments different instruments and uh I'm just just playing I never really like took it like professionally whatever but here in there it's like an outlet for me it's like a my car like when I every person was born with with a talent or whatever but they just need to figure it out I'm the kind of person that I'm I'm always searching I'm always searching like right what's the next big thing that's a secret U yeah that's also like it's funny because we feel like for example now I'm into events but I'm not I'm not going to get stuck there I'm something's going to come out of this like come even bigger so I'm not sure when but I'm open for it you know you always got to be open and accept flexible so power events over sud power events.com and people can see all the shows coming up yeah so the upcoming shows and each show is like a brand for itself like a home care Healthcare real estate Pala paloa yeah I'm excited for that one we just we just launch when is it right after Shas it's um before Shas H yeah even before Shas on May 30th the first show is a Redal real estate show that's March April May six we h wow six weeks yeah so in this six week we have April 9th is the real estate show then May 12th is the she she Expo for the ladies she Expo yeah can I get a in you can start growing this well I'll send my uh by the way maybe I should oh no it's does it have to be women-owned or just a women show cuz my entire team are women yeah yeah so can I send them yeah sure okay cool and you can sneak it on the table say I'm the owner direct get me a b and then May 30 is May I'm excited for that one you took food shows to the next level clearly I mean you took it from a show that was it was so smart in my opinion it was so genius taking it from a show that was only for food brands to a show that can be for everyone everybody's a consumer come on everybody's a conser you know we the food the koser food industry because it's so small so [Music] big milon that's that's the co of food industry right people are busy like we trade this people don't realize that the consumers are they make up for all the sales they make the decision who which which product is popular which product is the branch will buy right and food food is life cuz it's interesting last year even though it was targeted for consumers there was a lot of business deals going on between the the vendors and people because you never know it's a you never know I always tell people go to a show with zero expectations yeah let let let things fall into place when you go with an expectation you you you chase and you're just so you have the tunnel vision you're focused on one thing just go but but the expectations I'm talking about expectations think you asked me in the beginning what makes me like happy or whatever I think expectations that I don't have any expectations I try to live without expectations because that really makes a difference in a person's like a Stress and Anxiety like expect they come to a place or they go somewhere and they don't get what they expect they get all like do you ever meditate you seem like you constantly meditate like you're in a meditative State I call you're chilled relaxed I'm a I'm they call it a loner like a yeah I like to be myself a lot so that's when I automatically you're meditating this you read books like business books for some reason books I can't read I have tons of books in my office because I'm like I'm going to read books and all of a I start reading a book and then all my mind is all over the place and I keep reading and I have no idea what I'm reading because my mind is thinking about something else I can't read are you an overthinker not not an overthinker it's just I'm not sure if I if I get stuck in let's say if I read a sentence and I start thinking about that sentence but my eyes keep reading and I'm still thinking about that sentence it's like creative yeah yeah it's like always different idea so that's why I decided you know I'm not reading books yes I learn from my own experience wow very nice anything else you want to share at the CLA cuz we I started this podcast and I I thought I'll have like two 300 views I'm seriously that's that's the what I imagine two 300 people will listen and that will be expectations yeah yeah you're right by the way oh I wanted to touch on that no expectations very important Tony Robbins which is the biggest in self-help and I just like this person he helped me a lot and just from listening to his reading his books he always says the number one thing in life is expectations when your reality doesn't meet the expectation boom disappointment right engaged you're 19 or 20 21 the eler you become you you expect to have that business already by P and you don't have it expectations messes you up so I think it's beautiful that you touch that you don't have to have expectations and then you're just in the flow and it comes easy but with the podcast also I didn't have expectation I just did it because it's my hobby people say why do you have a podcast and they get shocked what I answer I answer because I have a hobby to express myself this keeps me going right but then I love what you said also because I decided to make the podcast and be consistent and it brings out for me good things I'll tell you why not because the deals and the and the people that listen but because it means that I have to take myself on a mat shabas and come out and spend time something that usually I would just sit and do nothing or a Sunday sometimes it's an extra day I don't work I have the time to do the podcast so from meeting you you never know what it brings you do a good action so I started with two 300 people expecting to watch and then I noticed that just thousands of people watch it and this is what I can track but I also noticed I started seeing I saw this week 300 people shared the podcast and then I know that people have it B have it in Yesa and then I see it it's on ielt and yish videos that like wow like this was my little baby like it was a little thing and now people are really enjoying it and I'm grateful for that and it's something special so um oh anything else you want to share to the world that was the I don't know I constantly share things there's thing that came up that comes up that's so Mac has a few instruments over here and he wants to show so we want because this is coming out now the it's a time to be wow the instrument so this is something else I don't know I found it someone posted I think on Facebook whatever this it sounded so nice that I I just bought it and I'm playing figuring it out I haven't touched it in a while so let's see if it still [Music] works interesting I need some warm up yeah okay wow yeah this is very so it's nice like you turn on music just play along same thing is with this this is like a this is like a very interesting [Music] instrument this the [Music] instrument [Music] logo may this is TR the highway music D to hey you need to need to use both hands this is just like you sit and drive H the stealing wheel like wow yeah so thank you very much Mac me for sharing all of the beautiful things you shared it's truly inspiring because was men so thank you for being vulnerable and and because it inspires so many people and please like share and subscribe it means a lot like the episode leave a comment because it it it tells me the direction of the podcast and what we can do and what we can change and subscribe like this you get every episode and uh Mitch will make bonus Clips m going to try to work it up this is now what I'm very 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