Who Divided Up The Parshiyos in our Chumash? | Rabbi Dr. Eliezer Brodt

hi there we just recorded an episode with Rabbi Dr Eleazar brat which was focused on the time of year that we're in we just began safer voracious and we completed Terror once a year where this say to come from the way we have the parties we discussed at length that there was other men hug him and it's very relevant to the Daffin we just learned because it was vinegar to throw where they finished the Tyra once every three three and a half years and that is discussed at length and the sources for the way we do it and the sources for the way it was done in other places and we go through throughout the generations and obviously he mentions many many farming sources for this topic and we just learned the stuff discusses how terrible it is to go from air to Israel to Bothell and perhaps tonight and we hope you enjoy this episode [Music] Rabbi Dr Eliezer brought it is a pleasure to be with you now after circus some of us had the opportunity to meet you on your travels to the United States thank you for that and we're here with a special episode it's being dedicated in honor of the dafyami of Rabbi Charles Greenwald he cheer his share is available on oldaf and other platforms it's a sheer which he really really explains very well the questions of the gemara how of the gemara is answering the questions he speaks out almost every ration that's relevant to the daf very many of the places I've spoken at also certainly the ones that are directly affecting chat some of the basic questions all done in a clear concise way people use it to prepare people use it to review and there are people who use it as their main dafyami so go check that out on all that and it is available on other platforms as well so this sheer is unique sheer because it's not directly related to anything gamara but it's related to the time of year that we're in we just began the new partial cycle purchase voracious and there are some interesting things that you'll find in the Hamish certain things that people wonder about who made the persius some of the small words that you find After parties at the end of kumashim these are some of the things that Rabbi Dr brought will be addressing and we're looking forward to this presentation like all others Rabbi Dr how are you today okay so you want to get right down to business and very often you like to give an introduction to what this is all about you could do that but I think the first question that you'll be discussing today is who divided the parishes right so first to begin the series of questions that was sent in by the sponsor or just follows first he wants to know is who divided up the parishes in our homish sources let's say if it's that was one question he wanted to know and were these also the divisions throughout the generations another thing he wanted to know was that um at the end of every hummus there's a list of all different types of pieces of information how many sukum there are and stuff like that and there's a word that says to Star of and and then it will tell you in each so let's say if you look at how much voracious it says star of is mem gimmel now what is memo what how many parishes do you see in your home is gracious not 43. at the at all in this list it also has the program it has um but that's a different story now then he also wanted to know I guess to um also which will hopefully come to some understanding through this discussion is that he wants to understand there's a Rashi in parishes when we get up to we'll quote what Rashi says and what the issues were and what might be the explanation so those were the questions that the sponsor wanted hopefully to be somewhat dealt with in the course of this year now before anything the truth is like this there are multiple topics about Chris attire which we do a few times a week and it's relating as as we just mentioned an introduction the reason why we're talking about this now is because we just we're right away in the beginning parishes people don't have an excuse yet not to fall out of Schneider Target yet um especially this year even had a few days to work on voracious so when you when we talk about Chris attire there are multiple questions that people wonder about at some point in their lives they hear different things um and this is one such topic the question is that people ask some people know more than others about them is who is the who made the procim who made the sukim the divisions the Alias when do we have Elias seven Alias why do they stop in those specific places who made them um you I have Tyra why do we have aftira what have many times you'll see in true there'll be a tumble about a particular after you when you're supposed to Lane it people might have come across and you learned in learning in different places in that there's a metagaman there was someone that used to say that was matagan lips and how that worked and when does that fall out of play when did it start and um also uh one other issue which also plays out and is that when you learn vishnais and the gemars you see that originally everyone who got in a Leo they had to Lane eventually changes that is about Cairo has on whatever it is when does that happen what what's behind that now all these obviously um questions that each one deserves a nice discussion um and this is some this is a related topical so curiosity and he'll increase the Torah and in um to understand that our parishes when does this division happen now that is the question I'm sure you've probably been to ashul certainly it's happened like on a Monday and a Thursday where one sitter says to stop here and the other city has to stop there you probably could tell us if it's at all um in the regular parachutes where there might be a conflict between different combustion with where to divide up dalius that's what I said that is a its own topic which yes people have devoted a lot of time even currently as we speak I recently got an advertisement of a hummus that supposedly has the correct places where one's supposed to stop um another such but it's a hot topic that everyone there's different as I coined it in other places there's junkies for different things so there are junkies for these type of things also now interesting is and we think it's a simple story someone asked the question who divided by parachutes you look it up it maybe you Google it your Wikipedia and you get your answer and then and as we'll see today that there's no real good clear answers for this question but there's an interesting discussion that of of um Concepts and things that we've learned and heard about in our lives um some more than others and hopefully we'll get some ideas about this some of these questions now the story for me particularly um in one aspect over here at least begins with his fouls about 18 years ago I was learning at night with with an old because learning the same base marriage and he said his kid got homework from the rebbe the rebbe wanted to know what is the sudarov that I mentioned earlier that's found in the end of each homage what is it referring to so pique my curiosity I started looking around this was I would say this is in before Google became such a big thing that the first place you look is right by Google this person actually didn't have internet um only email but so from then on I always was curious about it and come across different things and some of the information um will come out in the discussion today now I will also say one other point of introduction is um two other points of introduction one is that a lot of people do not know it bothered them and they did not have a good answer I'll list them out in a second and another thing is that um I'm not attempting to to explain every single aspect of this so yeah as it relates and plays out it happens to be as I'm as I was learning through preparing it I did not realize how endless it is but as we know Tyra is just endless and when you start looking into things sometimes it just never ends so whatever there's a limited amount of time and I cannot go into every practice of this tablet I usually discuss see modem that's something which you find simonim you find them out of succulent is a word that connected to the semen who wrote that word that happens to be its own it's his own sheer and smurum were written just on that particular thing and that's a Mama it's own whole whole year which is worthy of at least one share also so that was not today in other words if somebody would have any interest in that cheer please reach out to either one of us perhaps that could be further on the horizon for all Torah Network okay now so just imagine this thing it's not like you know this person when he asked this question there were big people they didn't know you see the redial for example and it's agama to um or something that he talks about by weekos and you see he's struggling to understand what it is you see also that he's struggling to try to understand that he brings people that also didn't know then he says I had a dream and looked through this dream I now was figured out shot and then he goes with a hope shot that he comes up with um Revolt find the name who's very famous for being into diktok and all these things also at the end of his Parish on hummus he uh um boracious he he also asks one second he also asks this um what's going on here he TR um what are they referring to and he tries to come up with some type of suggestion but it's not really um today we know that it's not really the right answer okay okay that that's all by way of introduction now let's get down to the topic what we're talking about over here what if any of the sources that relate to give us some insight in this story so we know that the the concept of laning is way way back we find um just the list One Source Maisha was masakin Azu xiaomi and megillah activation Lane okay very well known um Source another source it's in the same it's a it's another source which is it's brought in the same your xiaomi but it's also famous in the bakama that Ezra had made a bunch of takanas one of his takanus was that the Karim is these were amongst his his tentacana so maybe more okay so we see that there was so way way back that means they were they were laning laning was a focal point of of the a few times a week especially Shabbos they land now but now after that we're pretty much in the dark what I mean when the dark so we don't know so much from let's see my in the mid bar what happened every Sabbath do we know anything going on so we don't okay I don't know I don't even believe there's any major Russian or something like that that would shed light on this um to shed light about okay fine moving on when you learn masakis Magilla there's a few blot that talks about various aspects increase I'll tell you about intense and with the eruption middle as it brings down also as reticula and Israel Ezra was an assassin that um about leaning an important piece of information we want you to make sure that you carrying the clubs before shashana and the gumar brings the reason so we're seeing that there's giving a specific time when they want you to make sure um to Lane now besides for that is there any where else what you're supposed to Lane when you're supposed to lame so you would think if you'd open up Michelle or um at least Kamara you would find a list a straight up list every week what I'm supposed to be lightning what what do I do and there is no such list in hazao of everything now but when one learns mimara Magilla and early sources do you find certain things especially fiant is the the priest I'll tell you what one's supposed to rain and that's sometimes which after everyone's supposed to Lane but you don't find a thorough list and not only that if you look for weird the parishes itself we are the names of the parishes who said parishes the Asia is called partial okay and why is that you will not find many of the parishes even mentioned anywhere in tomorrow which is a strange thing we're talking about something that was as we said it's taking place a few times a week take one step back the actual computer those names are found that is another very good question which I'm not going into now but we do find different names than what we have most notably everyone um gracious everyone knows there's a some in some sources it's called Safra yashar and they often quote the native in Hay mcdavar where he has a whole piece in his introduction to the hummish why it's called yashar and others know that is not called him and there's other sources about the meaning of the commotion so that's also a valid question when that happens um now but but so far even it's something what I'm trying to point out is it's something we did from the beginning as far as the mid bar and we don't have an exact only as time goes on do we start seeing the lockers that play out in the various suggests that can be mostly found in the Enzo and the Miguel there's another gemara Magilla which is it says where you left off on Shabbos in the morning that's where you begin that's where you begin on Monday now that's not what we do but you see that it's it's it's doing something of the Ezra thing because you see it's talking about Chavez minha and Monday and Thursday but we know we don't do that uh this is the Verma review this says okay and now what we what we see is that already even in this time in this at the gemara it wasn't so clear and it was a machaikus where are you stopping you're you're laning but what what happened how many people were called up all the years so we know oh seven Alias but where does that happen and we know of course certain Alias uh people have a whole thing that's more more supposed to get it and help us kindly does don't come out but when does this start happen anyway obviously we're not going to be dealing with all these things now um but yeah and we also know that many places give police office right so there obviously isn't that's disgusting right that's also what if you could whatever and where you're supposed to stop now those are actually Branch outs from something to relating to this topic but as I said it's impossible to fit it into the time that we have Allied it over here now meaning the numbers that's clear in halacha right on different times Rosh Hashanah that's clear between those divisions talk about yes exactly how many you're supposed to get but how many sukum did they actually lean that does once you pass three seconds let's say you're laying 21 something technically it's it when does it come that they're laning let's say parishes they line that whole partial was that always the case um okay so and it's so the answer is it's not clear that every week they for all of time that they're reading the whole Parsha okay very good all of a sudden we have a gemara in magillo that summer days and this camera the the point of this Polaris were very well known it says that the name marava Damascus that the people of Earth Israel they would finish the Torah once in three years and as we know it's called it's assuming that the people of Babel they finish to tell you how many times they finished it once every disciple was once a year so we're seeing over here that something is unique and if that's the case that so there was a there was two at least at least two men hug him of how the Tyra was leaned there's going to be huge differences you know people always complain now especially now you know if you get stuck because America and Earth Israel for for some at certain point in time it could be a bunch of weeks that they're off on the parishes and you don't know which week to speak and if you're traveling and how to make up and whatever but in in the olden days back in the day the Heritage roll and bubble they had two different they complete they were completely off all the time it wasn't just a few weeks you know people get very nervous about it which you'll see a little bit about it later on okay lamisa a very famous rambam that's quoted over here the rambam says um that today I guess in the raman's time you say he's not denying that that was about dominicavit Israel but it was that they finished the third once a year he's talking about the Rama is here he's saying how many which is he's saying what was done prevalent in his time when do you started and then he goes on the side so he's telling you when you begin when you finish okay now we're going to get back to this the Rhino says what's going on well it's not such a Common Language to be found in the ramble in minute okay now so so far these are some of the sources about leaning and so we're already seeing from this camera Magilla that it can't be that there was such a clear cut division of the parachutes because they're completely off okay so now there's a beautiful Cipher called from a very very hash of the year he was rashiva a time in London Greenspan he wrote a bunch of sperm they're very hard to get for all the years in recent years less than 10 years ago mafangish line did a beautiful addition putting out all the stuff that they had of his into two volumes highly recommended say for alum this all different types of things can be found in the safe yes um one of the things he has a piece where he talks about the khalukas Apaches when does it happen so he brings down the rambam that we mentioned and then he says but if you look in rambam halacha base the Rama brings down Ezra teakin which we also discussed based on the gemara Magilla azrtiken and the Israel Terrace okay great then he says so you see from here that the parishes is before Ezra based on Mara that we mentioned in McGill okay great but it's clear as we're pointing out from all this he says what I just said also that it wasn't it wasn't a universal except chaluka because we see that the meaning of Benet Israel was at this time to do it once every three years okay he brings down all different things he proves that Lamesa he brings down someone that wants to say that it was very few people that had this minute even even Dominican artist talking about was very few people but he says he has a caucus that it's not true it was common in Earth Israel that this was the minute at the time okay he proves it from you xiaomi now so but what comes out bottom line What's significant from all this is that there was no minute which is what we're similar what I'm saying was The Logical conclusion of the Cities okay he goes on and he talks a little bit about it he has some suggestion based on what um when it happened and as I said already now said I'm not going to say every person's nature because I'm gonna you're gonna see what I the way I hope to say shortly many people say different features for this similar type of thing and I'm I'm not interested in boring the details just to get to the the main Crux of what's going on okay so that's number one um in the studio okay fine so now we so we mentioned the rambam and the rambam we said says eight minute Passions so what does it mean eight minute push it so interestingly enough we have in the past I've mentioned that one of the interesting sources that we have is that people used to travel and people traveled already in the times they were shining we have a travel that's called known as Masai verbena to of Toledo I think it's called and basically he travels Europe in the Years 1165 to 1173. this is mamish in the times in the truth of the rambam around the times and he describes his trip and he comes to Egypt and he says he talks about that there's a bunch of you then there and he says there's two big jewels okay great and he says um In this passage he says like this one of the shuls like finishing the Torah like the banshibado which is what we do today which is misfired that's the meaning that he from where he's coming from he's a guest in Egypt but he says the uh but there's also a shoe and Charity's role in Oregon cane and what do they do they have a certain way how they Lane and they don't finish every year the homage they finish every three years he says and this shoe so he's talking about a shoe that it would basically refer as I said we're talking about the years 11 65 1173 you could probably even figure out exactly which year he sees this they're doing this minute of that's mentioned already in the gemara Magill okay that they're not finishing it everywhere they're not finishing it every year they're finishing once every three years he says but the LA miso they Daven together these two shoes when on simplest Tyra and yay mat and Tyra I guess they didn't want to give up the kiddish because they only have The Killers once every three years so they decided that the kiddish will will join forces okay now this sort it's interesting is sometimes you know you think you have a source this Master's Revenue everyone knew about this romance has been Yemen um this particular Source literally everyone quotes it I would say I'm saying even uh the shalomativ a middle of you know he's talking about something and somebody gets into something and he quotes I saw his masses and he says this and even right away in the literally right after this thing came to print we find and thicken your sascar which we'll get to later on he also quotes this Revenue everyone quotes this so this is like everyone's quoting that that Kamara Magilla don't think it's just the gemara Magilla or that it's a zytic thing it was even there was a shoe at least one true in Egypt in the tongues of the rambam they were doing it now that could explain a little bit possibly what's going on here when you look at the rambam because the random was saying 80 minute he's referring to something turns out that that um there's more to the story like always and that is now in the past I might have said that there's sometimes a god though that he gets outshined by his father he has a great father and he could be great and then he comes forgotten remember has the bad luck of in his time he was unbelievable and all of a sudden he's forgotten about he only becomes revived different times he was a prolific writer he wrote a crazy amount only in recent years has he become famous um different problems things that he said people say he can't be that he said without getting into any of all that but one of the sparm that he wrote was a safer which called him Hebrew Hamas because now I must have lived there Hashem parts of it have even been translated in English that's the muscle part less known is that there's a halacha part and even a recent the constantly discovering more parts to this work in the Carib music um now What's significant is in this this safer is on Fila it was printed in the early um I think it was in the early 90s by Barry land University and currently it was reprinted recently we're not going to get into all the story about it because we want to get moving over here but bottom line is that he talks about the shoes that these shoe the two shoes that there was two that they had from Mahogany says they had other men hugging and it sounds like they weren't happy they had some other men hug him it sounds like his father the rambam tried to get them to stop it okay and this is a passage in this River of ramanarama but we see again he's also this is getting us a little later because he's 1186 so there's still this shul this community is being annoyed like this this nakuda of laning in a different thing okay now but it's it's more than that it seems the shoe we now discover from the kyrgymnsa documents about to show what was going on okay this as reflection deals with in others fine we have to move on okay now we we fast forward and it's really moving backwards there's a there was a Heber and it's cool it's um people have come across it and they learn and when you learn it's called um safer we'll just call it uh eitzerland okay great what is this so this is a collection of of the of numerous Mahogany it's like 50 pieces different Hagen having a bar though versus wrong okay now when is this work we now are able to establish this is early they found pieces in the chiragnesia so it's not like some height of a guy was Malachite learning based on his yeah may put this together this is early onward okay A friend of mine um discover pieces in the chiragniso was printed in his name was yasuf dubovic and he printed in Yeshua and um he printed some new pieces a new version establishing that it is even though we know that it's early work and and people had it but um establishing that how early it is okay now how has become famous how why is it quoted by anyone or does it is it ever quoted the answer is yes what happened is that what the answer is printed the person who was printing the yamshell came across that the amster had a copy of this he thought it was the Yamcha Slimer that wrote this but it turns out the obviously it was not it was just a junction it had an early source that had this work anyway so it's always quoted sometimes you'll see um people don't know that it's not the answer Schleich wrote it okay has a whole piece about this in his Wrath of and others talk about it now in later on I would say some point in the in the probably in the late late 1800s different Island where I used to kindness of shore wrote Iris about it um it was published in a journal um and there was a few additions that came out of this work well in addition in the in the 30s came out from Bam from Benjamin Levine another Edition came out from Mordechai Margolis and also an addition came out from Ezra alchuler a great lead for Chicago with Arisa dadares also on this FIBA okay now what was so significant about this Ebert because we find two passages that relate to our story one is a cryptic sentence he says that uh the um Unchained miserable the um very cryptic sentence which we hope to Enlighten um shortly then the next piece the next passage in the safe Israel what do they do ishana like us there it is so here we see that they do give us now this whole story um and the passage before which we'll get to explaining hopefully shoot soon obviously has a lot to do with and simplest Tyra as we said that was the that I'm claiming is that they didn't want to forego the Kiddush but that's what this has to do with I'm from Yari talks about the early origins of uh simplest Tyra and his classic book I'm so hysteria but the point is that you see over here simplest Tyra there was different obviously we don't even know the inaotic Israel how they did it and when exactly did they do okay is in the gamart only says three years here it seems to say three years and a half is it exact or not so it's gonna it really does play out um later on but we're not going to get into in depth with all the different due to lack of time okay now so these are the these two passages need um clarification and we'll return to that momentarily but now we go back to is to try to answer one of the questions we set out in the beginning which is siddhar of what sudarov so I mentioned that a bunch of kids it turns out that in the 1840s there was a Jew gavriel Pollock who wrote a letter to Shear Shear is known as schleima Yehuda Rappaport rev of Prague now obviously we have to ask a question we're about to quote something from shear if we're allowed to put something from sheer so when I was in so just to mention um so recently I believe there was a podcast by Rabbi geber on Shear I did not hear it yet but um he talks about shares if one wants to get the history of Shear but there's a lot to say about cheer he had Arif as yum and he wrote a lot but I when I was young in 10th Grade so they began a sheer and Flatbush from of Herschel shakhter and I attended a few times it was um when I was home from Yeshiva and he said an interesting thing he was talking about the Avenue and he said he said hasidim don't use he said why not because sheer published and even had some Horrors there so she was a Moscow so he's a master so hasidim are scared of touching the work of and I'm assuming you didn't mention this but the audience probably knows that he was the son-in-law correct that's what I'm about to say what it means is he why was he involved with the Britain let's use the silent correct of the of the of the exercise so of course some people say you know it was he was either made me married after he died he didn't know this he was good he wasn't anyway I'm not here to discuss um sheer right now we could just spend a lot of time on cheer and I'm not doing that now but at the end of the day big people did Coach here no problem especially in this story but the native quoted here openly no problem he read sheer stuff and the radar also well these two people were from the I would say the from you then that were experts in Guinea and they quote him and they have nice titles about him they they in one place I think the native does say something about him but he doesn't have a problem to quote him okay bottom line is um sheer is the comes and writes this um chuva to this fellow that asked him what's these sedara that I asked in the beginning that I found at the end of each commercial what is it talking about we what is it even referring to now again sheer over here he goes on he has literally I would say 10 pages um where he talks about with Incredible the kids incredible yada and based on the yada that we the the information that we have today we see that he was on he was on target very much from what he had to figure out what he did well is very impressive and it holds up on some level different aspects what he said and basically is that this is the sudarov was the way just like we have X amount of parishes so the banarius Israel have to have a counting of their parishes so for hope so for them the sundara would when it says let's say in homishborations let's say it's that is going according to those that finish the hummish for once every three years um and and that and so if you add up the five the five um in each hummus what it adds up to that adds up to the previous attire of three of the three-year cycle NAFTA one not the one year cycle okay this is a suggestion but obviously I'm I'm saying it in a namish in a one sentence thing this is he has ten pages and is each some of the things that he says in the passage of this nakuda um I feel it's not right but I but uh I can't go through every single prophet he says some of the things are very very interesting and maybe a different time but yeah on the most basic level what does it refer to procam numbers of proxim what is it refer to oh what is it referring to me so just like when the the let's say how many parishes do we have in homage voracious so we have 12 so if you do tie the the way they linked it would come out to be 40 it'll come out to be 43 because um because they broke it into three or three and a half depending on the exact calculations and and so it's basically their prices were much smaller if we finish the whole parachute and they're doing it over three years so it's much less in the parachute but it's it's much more complicated than that you're you're right but that's still like you know very very watered down version to say what it is okay but but I'm gonna elaborate in the course of what I'm going to say now it'll come out we'll be able to understand a little better what it is what he's getting at and that's his files for example there's a there's a medrish in Esther is it basically says some type of cryptic sentence when it's talking about the minion is 155. so what does safetyra have to do with 155. it doesn't work with what we have we have um 54 there's 54 weeks so there's either 52 parishes 53 parishes 54 passions whatever that is but we definitely do not have a 155 parishes so what shot in this message okay so there's a safer amigilus Ester on Wolf measures actually called hatirush and it's written by the marches's father it's a beautiful keyboard and over there he says he says he brings down different people are struggling to explain what's the um shot in the measure she says he wants to make a correction and it should say sidre that adds up to a hundred and 55. I mean to say it says we kind of different Hamish is you should not say that it should say what's he talking about he says is he has ashara and he brings you a bunch of different hazals and different people that um there's something called sadharam and if you look in the gemara Magilla that we mentioned although in the beginning which talks about the meaning of Leaning the safety Torah that we have that once I'm not finishing it at once here but waiting and finishing once every three years so it will come out it's 154. there's 154 parts assuming that there's going to be a leap year also somewhere in the mix and he says that this other madrasium and you find a bunch of times and it says Sidra and that's what Sidra means that's what he says as a um says this is a possibility then he says interestingly enough I was in vilna and I went to my son and he tells me my son the marches tells me also one of the great Valium of pre-war Europe says that whatever you just said to explain this Madras matasi bashem had going arav sheer is and that's what it means so what we're basically saying is is that there will for some reason even though that Chula matryan were not making a claim that that true metrium that the rambam in the ramam's time and we're running around this time and we've been told that that was a widespread all over Europe and all over Egypt and all of everywhere but it existed for some reason this remained in the list okay I'm probably jumping ahead but as you say that word Sidra just popped in my head many people call the cedra right where'd that come from correct correct so so so it sounds like it has to it does have to do with this has to do with this now La Mesa there are other sources um that seem to imply they when they're talking about how many parishes they're on the Torah so there's a there's a message there's a lotion somewhere that says something to the fact it is so that would be this 175 parachutes similarly there's a masakta cipherim that also says it has 175 parishes so what's going on here so she so already um sheer points this out and others based on the tire of Shear that it's referring to again the that counting of the con of how many times they Lane departure throughout the three years now the problem is this is a very big problem is that now we're saying one one thing we're saying was 154 or 155 and now I'm telling you 175 so sheer himself is not convinced that this that that's the shot in the usual me or that that's iframe but already early nice of Calum of the US Army before Shir did some ASP I mean sheer runs with this he explains a lot of different things that I'm not going into but already earlier than cheer there was for example um in 1710 there was a Hebrew called in an introduction there there is a passage where the person it's a drush safer but the person who published the safer says this in his piece of Tyra in his introduction about the safer when he's referring to this you shall mean that I just quoted that says it's 175 Parish in time he brings you the yamshaimer of the minig of Lane three and a half years because that's what you'll gain more because he said is that if it's 155 154 that's only going to work with three years so you'll gain some more but again yeah the the mathematical the exact numbers and the brightness of this I I leave I'm leaving now especially because it gets much more complicated when um short but the point is already in 1710 someone says it there was a parish uh a Fame of a parish from um which is called the maclas a Rio in 1732 he brings it down in short there's a Knuckles Jacob in 1793 also the second story from he also brings down this um particular Parish about this topic okay so so sheer what I'm saying is sheer he he just runs with it okay and he explains many more um things with it and I feel I feel bad because I'm saying it too um watered down but that's the you know that's life okay now we go back to um I quoted this keyboard of um but the point is one of the points that needs to be reiterated over here is is that we see that the parties it's not there was no it's um that as far if you're going way back so in the times before there was a period of time that there was an establishment and not just that one shoe that was a fringementing there was a merit Israel verse Bible there was two different things so they wasn't able to be an exact division of the parish as the way we have it today okay um adjust the fast forward very very briefly so back to this um so again how do we I told you there's a cryptic line and the cryptic line says that Merit Israel the shat siddharam what's going on what does that mean the lane departure and then the shat says what does that even mean whereas when it's talking about the bottle it says what's going on so the suggestion and this is again um subject to great debate but based on this tire that we're saying it means like this that even those that did do the minig so play artist Israel and they did um they had this concepts of saddaram so suggests Mordecai Margolis and some others that will Miser they also did the the people also LinkedIn the regular parisha that's similar to the ones that was being linked in Benet battle that's a radical thing so it comes out so yeah you want to know what they land in shoe they land and shoe differently they finished it once every three years but it comes out like this they're they're they should really be allowed to have a SIM card why because they're being the same at least similar to the Benet of Bravo anyway this is a this is a hap and it's not it's not true uh most likely based on careful reading Ezra Fleischer deals with it as a great length we're not going to go into it but the point is where it's coming from is because of the lotion because that's our parisha and as you pointed out of is this new thing is the is the 155 or whatever the musgris is and that that's what's referring to it means I have to read it very carefully but the problem is that this is um it's not clear that it's a it's a text that's very um it's not clear at all that this is the chat okay whatever I'm just throwing it out there based on to help us understand better this einfile of sheer helicoplay act but as I said it they don't they're not willing to accept it today now removing my goals also has a beautiful piece in his Saint foreign which is kadai to read and just reading these four pages with all the footnotes you'll understand now much better what he's referring to he puts it down in his unbelievable kayak of putting it down in short to the point he brings up different things he quotes many of the sources that are out there about the topic there of course there are more and he puts it down very carefully so now comes out what about Rashi on um if we go back to Rashi so what is he say so this is um this is also plays out over here says so right away the Mizrahi asks Duma what's going on here supposed to be written how much space is supposed to be between different parishes and even in the particular parishes you open it up there's not um he says and he also has another question you should start asking it earlier on the Martian why are you waking up to Precious life he so then he says fascinating Ezra loyalty controllers we say it really was supposed to be a different place and it wasn't interestingly enough the masraki didn't have this but the rajban says really the parisha of aichi was supposed to begin a passage earlier um that makes sense that's the connection when but it didn't want to because why it says there are spam fascinating thing because it wanted to be Messiah with something Horizon was wanted basically to him assignment something that we find people who like to make fun of it we see the rash bam says it's now rashbam was only printed in the 70s late 1700s so it wasn't you know but here he's saying and he's explaining it over here but now says remember my golis without using this rachio quoting them if you understand the concept of snarim it's very possible that um that that's what it's referring to it's not the sudarim it's the starim of I'm just for lack of better word the starim of the venerative straw and those we said is they had a different way how they ended the partial in this particular case I don't think it answers it up well um um but that that's just a suggestion it's kadai to look at removing in this subject okay now the Marshall just to mention I said that there's there's all different places that possibly could be rise for it someplace sometimes sheer does go for it sometimes not other people bring them a martial is a uh Ravena he says he says it's impartial what's going on here so we're back of shore in his Parish on on um so he also talks about this and he brings down this raid of this masakra and he brings down the answer Slimer and all this material about starv he knew this um he knew this rate of share he doesn't quote his name but he most likely knew it and he says um what we call parasha was sometimes called say their parishes which he pointed out do you want to know about it okay Lamesa He suggests that maybe there's a printing mistake over here and that it really should not be matai ambition parishes but based on just like we found that the xiaomi According to some and the Musa of course so that would be that's really Robin Kai wants to say okay these are just possibilities out there about now there was a traveler um and this is where we start moving we're we're getting close to just a few more quick parts to get to the conclusions already um like this the um first of all the tire of Shear really goes on to playing out and understanding in the in the medrish we find that there were different when you open up your metrics a lot of times people are lost what's going on over here why is this piece of measures relating to parisha schmeiss um not perishables but it turns out it's possible that some of these major what's called so the drushas would be according to that say they're in the parishes but I'm just saying the sentence it requires a lot of beer and it might not necessarily be true okay now there was a traveler a great concussion with Israel he traveled to a to Europe to raise funds in the late 1800s and and he ends up writing up his travels he ends up in tame uneven it's called reactive sapiro was his name the same for his very nice as comments and he saw a lot of interesting things at the end he publishes his travels to Vines called Evan sapir and towards the end he also writes up different discoveries and things he saw in his travels so in the back of volume 2 he brings down an old Hebrew that he saw and it says like this that is 53 parishes now I mentioned earlier that it's not clear if it's 53 54 this is our recost also which we're not going to go into um just one person that talks about it I've recent my friend yako style put out a safer of uh there he has a few pages devoted to collection of of numerous macarons if it's packed with 53 parishes how do we get the counting in 53 parishes but here you see also a discussion about that and then he says um then he brings down what's significant that's that's the meaning of rival the H mcclainers 154 now this is the key word because and then he goes this keyboard does that explains what is the the amount of sukum in how they broke it down because we have it asparation which in this free bird calls it safer Yasha which we earlier mentioned other sources for that we have Shameless aparsha they have it a different number so he breaks it down that participorations has Arabic what are they and this keyboard this early Hebrew this ancient Hebrew that this Rebecca sapir saw in his travels talks about um has the mama has the breakdown of what it was okay now two more points with this whole um balogun and that is a spouse all that I'm telling you this was all um known and written about starting from when sheer wrote about it then and was published right away and all different creatures and oh you know I would say throughout the years there was was discussed and people started to know about it one um reaction to this was a safer there was a safer written from a dying in Vilma in 19 he publishes it in 1906. it's called Messiah his name was um I guess finfer and he was a rather in a few different places before he became a dying in Villa and he puts out say from a serious alternative what is the safety uh in short one of the things that he does in the is he wants to understand the the prakim the said of the parshis the vision the sadharim the sukim the icy ice all different things the the history of the Capitola I'm an amazing secret and now this safer he was in contact with that there is he has his comments from some other people and and it's incredible the amount the material he has in the safe room and he talks about our discussion he talks about at the end of the day even though he saw managed everything that was up to 1906 what was out there um including cheer and everything and he saw various articles he's quoting there was a lot of articles that were building off it and well Maisie he says it's it's a it's nothing it's a mistake it's a mistake that should have been put it was a mistake someone wrote it a long time ago a wasted time wasting you see after you saw everything and a lot of different evidence and he knew about the massacre deciphons and the new xiaomis and there's other madrasium and these guys he's still he literally has the list of all the material and he just knocks it off okay I don't know why this is so but the the um La Miser there's been many discoveries after from the Kyrie Zoo which we're not going to go into but we have already discussed the tagonies and in this area the carrying these are also helped out and there's been many articles of the different pieces that they found where they are able to show that there definitely was at one point two men hug them so that means is that even when when the gamara is writing this in Magilla we're talking about it was a minute it wasn't like this far out meaning in one place that they did it so and what's significant for us is that at that time still there was no khaluka of the parishionist as we have and you go to the store and you open up whatever hummus you like to use it just didn't happen so now what happened and all the nuances and all the sugiers and suggests that was brought up by the people earlier so there's I'm just going to mention the names not to um um there's a there's a Ezra Fleischer who was a world expert of FILA from yid who wrote hundreds of Articles and books relating to three love from he's a fragments he spent a lot of time about this sugya wrote about it a bunch of times and there was a um there's a year there's still a live at academic uh also wrote a beautiful beautiful article somehow he comes up with a whole husband the whole time I keep on saying and they later on they find sources that taka proved this of 154 175 167 141 of the Seder hypershest they find lists they actually have lists of this so they see it was done somewhere not just in that true that of the rambam room but Roman rambam so my he one of these people even connects that this whole minute actually it's strange it comes out if you think about it there's a crazy balogun they're laning what's the season at least we we're leading we know yeah all the different things okay so okay you'll say that we your educated guy and you know that the the hafsakis that we stop are wrong but you know it's perspiracious you lay in the Parachute by them it's like it takes four weeks voracious and it's all it's a challenge of what's happening over there somehow he shows that the numbers are exact and it ha it has to do with they finished they start at the same time as we do sukis and they finish for hackel he he has a mother that could happen to get the hacker but there's intense blindness and all the different makaris about it this is in this not article fleisure builds to explain his theories about it he there's a there's a there's a thing in history that one has to be very careful sometimes you could read an article from someone and it's my most amazing if you read the text but then you think and you say okay now I believe you uh what you're saying sounds amazing now back it up with sources and sometimes you just like the sources don't exist it could be he's reading it beautifully maybe he's a navi but it's very hard to say these things because we don't know whatever but he builds up with an intense understanding which if it's true it's remarkable of what Phila was in times of um from the based on English from before the based on English what it meant Korea satira was originally first then it became davening and why that happened fascinating things but you have to know which parts are true and which are not anyway okay so now at this point we're stuck do we have an answer to our question so I'm so basically is um there was a fellow um Rabbi wine travel he prints a work he found from in the again in the caribniza he dates it somewhere from nine from 990 to 10 40 and from this work their taka is a haluka already then of the parshyas attire okay so we have somewhere but where was that we're getting it from was that the source likely not but but we're we're showing that that it's it's very it's much later than one would imagine okay that's one source about this another quick sources and we're we're getting closer to the end this is bring it down savior's which considered to be a true is a rush we're not going to get into it but it seems to be reliable the freedom brings down as follows um this is basically there was no set meaning this is achoover supposed to be true from The Rush so this is not taking account this guy in the material that was found um later later on but at least you see that there was no exact now you'll say does this play out so I'll tell you just um two interesting requires relating to this also and that is um the reform movement and in our time the conservative movement they have a field day with this they don't want to listen to Chris attire the whole craziest entire so they go wherever they are to throw and a ready a ready in the reform movement when it began this um elbow documents this out they wanted to say they said what do you need they want they want to have a shorter crease attire and the concert movement they have truvis written we're doing that we're preserving that minute you know whatever okay well mice up this also played out there was a there there's there's no meaning that when there's a Hassan so they Lane and purchase at the end of the Parish of the lane Silas when they landed is a part of the seven Alias Nat and this was a major controversy um at one point there was like everything else controversy true was written about it and even some written about it and seemed some were lost or rear recently someone printed a rare one of it it's called country salinian he calls it countries when you look there's a lot of different things that are happening in this shuva but one of the things that comes up in this tuba and a tuba about this topic from uh um also they bring in this rambam and they bring in what the minig was and the halucas apparishes it plays out somehow in the in this um in this story okay now so so so bottom line and this is just to be my second to sum up what it is that we're coming out with over here in this story in an event so someone can have a takeaway is like there is an excellent work if someone wants to learn all about the Messiah in all types of areas so it's from Israel yabin it's called so he talks about in his entry about caliculus Dharma parishes so he says like this the Torah there's two halucos of leaning on chaps one is artist Israel they did a three years or three and a half years which you spoke about it was either 154 167 it was called siddharam it's mentioned the gemara there's numerous sources we're as in Bothell they laned it with once a year finishing it it was 53 parishes some have a part and it's called parshy ice as you pointed out and some have 54. earlier on um and this is the haluca today and this is um and this is the the bottom line that basically the meaning of bovill wanted out one out for whatever reasons which again you have to see the the the articles that talk about it why the narrative minig which was first that's another question to ask which was first did they maybe originally they learned um the three-year cycle this all these questions we're not dealing with but but we're at least attempting to give up to give some type of answer to this question we'll be Messiah with the last thing which is that people especially I mentioned people always ask why can't you just make the double parishes make some type of conclusion make some type of mass meeting you know with internet have everyone come down and we'll have uh well cloudy Israel agree on something so to speak um is that even possible okay so this is the conclusion the conclusion is a spouse it was a very very important safer that relates silica's previous attire and that safer is called it goes by the name ebershan and technique Susan okay the safer is originally published in someone stole it from him and publishes it and he feels that it had mistakes he himself goes ahead and publishes in 1578. this is the go-to safer that the classes uses extensively actually and just throw it out there this is the source for tubishwat this is the earliest source for tuba trap okay the safer one of the reprints that came out of the safer a bunch of years back has a beautiful article from batala Landau and some of these manuscripts I think even the manuscript of this mohabbers told this isn't swapped at the same time as the base series anyway he has a passage he talks by Rico's I told you already I mentioned that he talks about he knows about the urban Yemen right when it came out or what he was talking about anyway he talks about what about tough suckers that you should um what are that suckers that you make um in the parishes so he brings that first he brings down the masses sorry he brings down I said the the and he says like this he said it came out that in 1545 and again a few years later there were people there and it came out that the bonerity Israel the visitors are are hearing Parsha one way and and in fact they're laying a different way and they wanted to make Shalom so they try to talk about it and to try to make it um and it wasn't successful he says again a few years later they tried to again and this was in one city to try to make Charlotte that there should be a universal laning and you know and that way it wouldn't it wouldn't mess up anything it just didn't work lamisa because we see and and so so you see already then that they tried to to you know I guess we want to have for the volume a lot of gabonium love to be busy with this especially in our recent Rufus with all the calendars and all the different luas you always see the certain people the junkies of the calendar they want to show off that they know which parachute it is and they they show off they know which attire it is and the and watch so we see that there was attempts already you know to try to make sure and it didn't work why it is is hard to know but that's what it is LA maiso and one learned Sim and tough Huff Zion you see that tonight come out on talk over there and over there is the halachas of when things are supposed to be it leads them in order to understand that you have to have an intense understanding of the calendar which we refer you to this year we give in Rosh Hashanah where we coined it the junkies of the calendar aquapon that's the story so we've attempted to answer the question obviously the question is much better than the answer and we don't have an exact pinpoint of when it happened but this is some type of uh exploration of the storm okay thank you very much for those still listening I hope the people who dedicated us they're listening but I really appreciate it and one last thing if you could just clarify for those he said there's a takeaway I think the takeaway was around 10 minutes ago the closing takeaway or more um you you said that um we've been calling it the mini Garrison straw but we see that they were doing that way in hot Florence also this three-year or whatever yeah Egypt right and that that gets is its own can of worms and we're not going down that path of preserving a miniature to stroll outside and how it still existed and is there other where there's a lot to talk about that in recent years but we aren't going down that path okay now we have partial we have cedra we actually call him Maverick cedra no right that's what it's called anyway for all questions comments suggestions please reach out to either myself and or Rabbi Dr Alias abroad at Eliezer brought gmail.com my email address is suede M at ou.org and we're looking forward to hearing from everybody and we'll see you all soon