The Story of Likut Seforim and Derech Emunah

[Music] welcome back Rabbi Dr alaz brat we're going back to our old I say old it's been a while since we've done an episode on harki we're already approaching the second yard site so what better time to continue talking about some of the and interesting ways that Yi was mades and wrote his for we are thankful again to our season two episode sponsor who's Anonymous and it is in memory of how are you brought take us back where were we up to and where are we headed okay so basically in season two we sat we we uh jumped into a rabbit hole that took us for a very much longer than I intended through the world of manuscripts um even manuscripts of gamar and the reason was we showed how R kki in throughout his works is is unbelievably updated in using all these materials Not only was he a tremendous Bucky in the standard bavi M he was he somehow had all the new that was a for him and he's using it everywhere so I decided to go and discuss does everyone do that is it AES and so we called it the mishna method and kki on that side whereas the velt says over who's the other side so we we try to map that we try to map out the story through a course of approximately five episodes and then we try to decipher the deep deep very very complex so many different places he says different things and we try to make heads or tals out of it and we concluded at the time promising that we're getting out of the rabbit hole and we're going to try to come up possibly in the next episode with Mahal so now we will through the course of what I'm setting up today and the next episode try to have some Mahal but we're really going back Toki um um much more in depth which is what we we've been talking about theun and theun as is very well known is his most um um he's called that maybe even on we we have pointed out on the um his in his says there's something about it and that probably will be his uh I'm not going to say it but I guess I will say it for lack of better words his what he's going to go down the B he's already called by some places the B point being that going into some aspects of that we have yet to discuss we will be able to get back to for very briefly but the point is more about and more about and that is as follows rki we we discussed at Great length mostly in season one towards the last few episodes set out to write this work on zum we discussed baros what was out there on Zam beforehand and decided to go work onam so he said we we said he wrote a nice more than two pages and he lists out everything that was happening the mat and everything and then until the conclusion was the comes was not so but by the time gets there there's much more there it's much more relevant that's why is very B about it and many don't talk about it is famous for is legendary for being in the areas of Z bring it downa but it's very complex it's not user friendly keski wanted to take that and make it user friendly and also and also there's a very important doish tons of new materials that had just come to light in the years from when the did it Toki starts doing it and he lists it all out and we documented this clearly in the first season the last few episodes so he was taking the bringing it down making it more user friendly at the same time using all different and discoveries that were being discovered in the next bunch of years from is pretty much until he sets have to do fine what does he call himself he's Mish this again and again towards the end of he's making that what you need it should be that someone wants to after the because me to say this if in 1900 someone would sit down and want it will be pretty easy again maybe the will be hard but whatever all of a sudden by the time you finish the and all these new discoveries it comes into and everyone knows we have a four or five volume set of a massive amount of material so so he was trying to make it that someone could learn now he of course and we said we're going to get to discussing this I'm not dealing with he spells that out in the at the end of the the sh of the safer he's M but the point is you have all the material encyclopedic in the sorry the of the is describing himself what is he doing calling it then I bring down all the so that what obviously his his man and's might be two different things but the point is he making a safer now when you think about that what's really ultimately happening when you're looking this over here iski is making a classic Le on H that's what he says we said numerous times in season two and in season one that one of the people that most likely had a tremendous tremendous impact on him was the the Mish Mish what is the mishna just to go back for a moment um what is one of the main points in the Mish the Mish says like this a it's very important what's one of the things that got the Mish to write his Mish was there any Works before the Mish so the Mish says he in his he points out a certain he points out various valuable some we've mentioned and one of them he says that the was of the and and okay but then as time goes on there were more that came out out such asist a bunch more he list out then he says came out the prim anyone knows you learn M how many times he there the more and more materials kept on coming out and in order to go find it what do you have to do someone has to be in order to get because basically there's different points in time someone goes ahead and makes a leid of stuff and then there's more and they're not Incorporated it so felt he says oh this the sh Chua very important safer does a incredible job which we're going to discuss shortly of materials and chuvas and that the previous didn't have but already from the prim onwards he doesn't have it so I says the went ahead and sat and collected information from and many more far okay now one other thing that says I'm being Mal is he's not just being Mal he's not just going okay I'm going to collect 10 you know this 43 new there I'm gonna put them in here I'm going what he does is and that's what makes him so special is he goes starts through scratch he learns through the he tracks and as we enumerated already in season two he he also did what kki does onam he went and tracked down the numerous that were coming out in his time and using them and starting from the garas and going through the SU with the new discoveries so and that so is doing that is doing exactly that which is he's doing the from all the material that exists out and even after the plus and then on the same side he goes through which is what has says I have something also called okay this is old um that we've mentioned a little bit in the past and being Mal so the point is that both the Mish and the as they say themselves they're so obviously the question is what does that mean they're and this is the question that I would like to discuss a little bit today and that is the origin of Le throughout the generations and what does that even mean obviously we're going to see today that there are different types of you know someone's not going to most people you might hear or might have heard from different people being M it's a leer what does he do he's not doing anything no one's really you will most people will not be M the Miss say that so obviously there's some type of and that's what we hope to discuss to bring out what it is more behind what RI and others were trying to do and that is as F we begin with the B we're going to go a little bit backwards after B and then we go forward I am not attempting to go through every aspect of this topic this would take us a lot more than eight epis episodes which we are not doing now anyway enumerates a whole bunch of different about what he's trying to do and basically one of theas he brings out is that there's tons of information and someone's got to be Mis there's tons of that became available in by by by the he's let's say the first he's Mish in the beginning of the at that point in time there's tons of material and in order for someone to go through it all on every single suya it's almost impossible so he's going to do you a favor and he's going to be mad it neatly then he says but what so someone might say what do you need me for so he says I rely on safer K which ones does he refer to says the B such as the smack the uger theboy he says no it's not GNA it's not useful and he says there's problems with all these you have to be careful which even on those which are these are we're talking about it's problematic always and you have to me say there's a get there in or sometimes it's too much Mak so I the I'm going to take a lot of information and anyone who learns B sees that a lot of times you just you're faced with a lot of information a lot of quotes of he had a beautiful library for that period of time and he publishes it he starts from the gamar rambam and many and basically which we'll see more about later on he becomes sort of a live in addition for multiple purposes the for many that was the library they didn't have they didn't have a have a unique library and this becomes a library for many people so forget about the of the becoming the P he also becomes the library for cl Isel so his Le was much more advanced because it's not as kiter as other even which he's calling out specifically by name some of them and that's what he intended to do now obviously there's much much more happening in the B we are not going through the right now that's its own story but the point is one of the many in was he looked at himself as a lier now his leer we see is he's not he's not just saying blah blah blah he brings you many times complete quotes of the gamar theim and when sometimes when people learn it they're like okay what's he bringing me down the these such long quotes is it necessary and and then obviously when you learn a be sometimes you could see that it's very important to even see how he brings it down and that's its own story okay so that was the so that's a key liid safer that makes a in CL on that alone he's taking a ton of information and making it that a person doesn't have to go technically to libraries all over and go buy himself 50,000 and even helps you all fast forward a bunch of years later and about 1650 a Prince and what is his point is he realizes it's already a long time after the and there's uh new materials that are not that are not available okay but he does a um um to um most people didn't even hear of the saer and we're not going to go into all the details of the saer comes along around that same time there was a yid and this yid was very very famous is the from man am I botching up even attempt it right now to say his full name I had it right before but I guess not right now okay anyway so the born in 16003 and dies in 1673 he's a and his safer as the wres and as you know I'm very fond according to says without the puts out this also again a massing a ton of material and it's on and we're not going to go mapping out all the different aspects again about but we just what's important for us over here for our story is in his he says like this there was the did an incredible job he gathered tons of information but from the time the B till 1650 now now we're talking about a period of less than 100 years 16 let's say when does he publish it he's prob he's working on the 1630s so we're talking about less than a 100 years there are hundreds of chuvas farm from great that are not available that are not in the B and again you're back to the same problem this Great's material in Tris Farm you have to go to a library to track down so I'm going to do you the favor and I'm going to make it easy for you then he says not only that I happen to have some manuscripts I have other materials and there's a lot to discuss about what was in the library the what wasn't in the library the it was more Library literature of at a certain point in time he also gets what I mean even chis and others he only got him later on but this is a different story in na but the point is that at the age of in his 20s he begins his massive project of collecting and this becomes again a go-to safer for one who's trying to learn that there's there's a ton of information and someone needs to take it and put it in a way that it should be usable that people don't have to do massive amounts of research okay so this is the story with the and as I said the who ends up doing something about this himself um also um is saying that the is mish a important stop in this whole story of what happens okay so now obviously the question is like this let's say someone pasin from AER even from the b or from the the brings you down a chuva that says this and this what do you do is that good enough or brings down you're learning the brings down this is what it says in the Raj book could I pass him like that or not anyway this has been this is a conversation which again also is obviously very very long conversation I'm not going to go through all the prum I'm just going to say one key that from there there's dozens of aspects to go through and that is like this there's a already a TR remash because basically you have to understand every point in time every there was always a ton of information someone comes ahead and and gathers it together such as the tour what was the tour doing up to the tour's point there was a lot of information he was making it user friendly after the Torah the next person does and the next person does that's what a lot of times were doing is they were taking the materials up to now a lot of them mention and say their own plenty of their own stuff in the course of their safer but part of it is to take material and make it all organized that you have um a One Stop place so to speak to to look at the material so the remash way earlier this is we're talking about before the rambam the re the father of the R so he was asked such a question which is like this what happens if a person he doesn't know what does he know he knows the TR mean say let's say he knows the of that day the's time if there was AER and he wants the Pas but he doesn't know the gar he doesn't know the it could be he doesn't even know where the garas are and he wants to Pas or you have a guy is Tak a very learned person but that um um he's M Lon so to speak but this Lon does not have say he didn't learn where how how to pass so to speak has this cha he says like this people a lot of people and in this phenomen that he's talking about hundreds and hundreds of years ago obviously is a problem that resurfaced dozens of times throughout history there are people that they Pas him and they don't know anything about they don't have which requires tremendous from the and it's better that they should rely on a Ty safer which is written by a of a person and and that's it it's me say the guy that thinks oh I know how to learn means I'm order to be a pis that's not who you should rely on you have to rely it's better to say there's only two choices in this case the is talking about obviously if you have a third choice a person that knows how to learn and knows how to be the is not saying that it all stops from they have to only pass like the of that period of time so to speak but the point that the rash is making is that there is an Auda of relying on a Leal safer even if you don't understand what thiser says but there's a certain nuda over here and this is this comes up time and time again um throughout history so what what the point over here is like this if let's say you have a person he could read text he could read the B he doesn't know do and he opens up his b he's living at in some Village there's no R to ask there was no telephones there's no nothing he opens up the thing and it says straight up the brings down and he wants to rely on it that's the way to go better then he should start thinking oh I learned so now I have a whole deal no no no say no no that's a dangerous person okay obviously a person that has learn properly is not referring to anyway this becomes time and time again a from through just to mention one the says that many people pass him from if they don't know theal so basically you have to know you have to have proper shim and their could be faulty mean to say the mar says that he goes different than this the remash that basically happens like this a comeand someone could say oh I don't need rabbis I don't need P I have my of the day whichever safer whichever period of time you're living and I have that I'm let's say we go the Cy I'm gonna use the C I don't need rabbis says the or or when the marsh is talking about already this is when the the the from was out there I don't need to look at the I don't need to look at the T I don't need to look at anyone I read the text I couldas I need to go to a rabbi that's the danger that and that even though so the reash is saying if I have a choice where in so there me say there's a I'm trying to say there is a there is a very big difference between the cases of the but the point is someone just to rely on without knowing the sugus and all of a sudden taking a Le safer let's say without KN and start being and making tyus that's a terrible a anyway this became a Hot Topic throughout the generations time and time again and um mapping it out is not for now it's a a some time but the point is that we have that there's a there's um Le there is an important aspect to them and on such as with the and such as with but there's also a fear that have to be careful um who's using the LI sometimes that could also get get in the way that could also cause problems okay so now I said the after the there are other we're not going to go into the whole history but we're going to just stop at one um one two more stops of in in the history of Li and that is when one opens up their let's say you're learning Mish you see on the side is who's one such liid safer who's actually two liid far there are two baras that Were Somehow combined together that's its own story we're not going to discuss that what the do but there's one known as the sh Chua who is the sh Chua so it's known as to be the author is margis the brother of R margis now um without getting into the whole discussion of the authorship of the sh Chua because a large percentage of the safer was actually written by R zman marus Who as we've mentioned numerous times is alive anyway the point is that the brothers worked on it at one point and dies at a certain point in time so a large percentage is complet completely done by is a fact that's not so well known but that's not important for us today the point is like this what is the sh so anyone opens up youra when you learn especially learning Mish you see it's very helpful what is it so basically very simple again the same idea what the Mish did just this happened much before the Mish there's a ton of literature similar says from less than 100 years from after the died there was tons of they wrote We how is someone going to access it how are you going to know if um what the Next Generation saying in Tyra so says I had a ma he ad have had a major library and he gathers tons of information fast forward a bunch of years later early 1800s marolas has this massive library of also including of that he has reare trua for people in Gala in Eastern Europe do not have most there's a ton of information Cesar Magus he wishes that someone would come at long and put it together into a handy leid similar to theak type of idea his brother decides to do it gave him a lot of this F because he didn't there weren't two copies of this of these materials floating around they're very rare from approximately a few hundred of CH mostly chuvas farm and and and one reads sh Chua you could see tons of chuvas farm that today yeah you have Hebrew books for years and years they were not available and people would handle different sh would say the sh Chua brings down a sh from this and this and I hold like this and that was the starting point of many conversations in chua's farm and including the Mish the Mish was moid to publish the Mish and leave the sh Chu on on the page so that he didn't have to chop out and have to discuss even more stuff because Chua had a very important amount of information I'm just going to throw out one this is which could um has its own story behind it but how does the make make it to the um ashkanazi world so to speak the answer is through the sh Chua what in the world am I talking about very simple the sh Chua become is published after it's published in the 1820s it's published from then on always in if you learn through you'll see one of the main had just come out just come out this including a lot of the other that brings asazi world the B didn't get to this far part of of the world even though he traveled and he was very famous even in his lifetime but what happens is once it's on the page bringing it down C this is aish that if you check into it you'll see that it's it's it's beyond true but the person who was on this was the mag of V's son who took him over he was extremely who was the mag for many years and he writes this in somewhere um he points this out but basically zis and his brother by the fact that they Incorporated so many of the they made what today in the asazi world so to speak one of the most known names of is for many reasons but this is one of theas behind anyway but the point is that the sh was being M tons of information that he had from his vast Library okay so in a beautiful explains this he also enumerates how there were other different from the times of the moving on words and cader cader this was a thing that kept on happening and um this is what even the Ra was doing on the B there was information that the B didn't have right anyway buter at one point he says interesting L over here who has all the who has the who's gonna be able to search you have to it's it's to search through truis Farm the kiter he always wanted to do it and his brother starts a project then he says one other interesting thing that has major ramifications just to throw it out there the this is a very big discussion which is as follows the sh Chua and also the earlier is they are being Mal fromis Tris in general was a r was asked a sh and the said in this case you should him like this so there is a huge discussion that is is that when you have a r that wrote a Cher and had written a Cher and there will be a Ste between his Cher and what do you do and this is by certain and certain so the answer is says um he takes the side the tras are more important so he's obviously justifying the case of the sh okay One Last Stop is the P the when one learns you find incredible safer from again what was he doing he was going as he says in hisus and he wrote he collected from a few hundred this was enumerated as a doctor written a few years ago from a fellow ofi in Baran University about the P Chua he shows what the exact library of the P Chua was and he collects hundreds of chuva and he brings it onto the page now so similar to what the sh chuva does he's bring tons of Chu he does the same thing so here we're going to go for just one or two minutes to explain a drop about the p and that is as follows what is the approach how does one look at the pis so anyone familiar when you learn you see the P brings down a bunch of Chas F but like this who yes I'm very fond of quoting he has the following um um he says the following concluder could be some people might disagree with it but I think um ran is definitely entitled to his opinion and that is as follows after the pis cha many years later came out another on which was also a collection of tons of Chu Farm that's known as the dark Chua from theat what's the difference between the pis Chua and the DAR Chua says re zit he says the does not say oh this guy's M this guy says it's us this is this is what does he do he was able to do he he took concise information and he would let's say there's a big chuva he'd say the like this because of this and he would give you a in two lines and that two lines is me to say there's there's an art in kit certain kit what they end up doing is they are just they just like say and they could have you a long list of people but you don't know what the reasons behind said the is it's a it's not pages and pages but he has a um an ability to take a and say oh there's thear over here and cut it cut and paste it into two lines and give you a so now I don't have theud I'm a that has 10 what do I do I open up my P I check it out and there I have theud and so says this is the difference between the P vers the darku darku is much more in collecting a massive amount of material I actually spoke a little bit in a different episode in a different podcast of mine about the dark chua's library and the M library but but they had a massive incredible library but the point over here is the P Chua sometimes less is better me to say he didn't have those thousands as farak had a few hundred which is also G which is similar to what R was working with in his SH now what's the now in this doctorate this fellow brings down the approach of different DM about using one interesting thing that he does not bring down the the great God the the um binefeld one of the great after World War II in is so he says when he's talking about the he says as follows that from all theid form that out there what does he say this he knew how to do it he was very careful how he was doing it and he he brought down the and um and very very useful when one learns this is what the chab said in regard to the P anyone else talk about the P cha yes obviously many other people but we're just going to keep it very short over here thees let me see if I can find the paper that I printed out as usual always gets lost over here and yes it did wow oh here it is what's the about the about to sa for pisc so says he was once talking to and he says and then he says he this is what he told he doesn't just cut and pce and and he basically the RAS and the that he brings down that's enough the Pas and he and very very important so basically what he's saying is is that the the is in the world of out there extremely extremely so much so he says doesn't say that likely okay so so here we see already um some later um the P cha what in the B Med so to speak of how important such a such a type ofer is for um for them okay so now to conclude with this nuda and then I'll just have one last nuda over here it's like this so far what I what I'm what I basically tried to lead up to in a veryit manner yes it's not like me but yes once in a while we have to on the audience and that is that kit throughout the ages there were some very important key kit that or not just to bring down the far that knew to bring down the which is found a lot of times in the sh and in the and these three they're really going after the does it on a much greater level obviously um because he's not only doing charm he's also doing whatever he had ra whatever okay anyway the point is were very important and when you get by the time to our to not our generation but after World War II not the de the and the are both crazy into the p and that is what I'm trying to say with so a could say for of that of a major proportion of copying the Mish which is his um um dma so to speak was very important for him when he was creating his lier but he was doing something else he wasn't just a lier of collecting Chas and saying the is similar to the pis cha he was going like the Mish which the Mish created a second Parish which was the where he's the going into the whereas the Mish spoke out the Mish BR did not want to just bring down every single Mar makum that he had what did he do he brought down a lot of the Tyra he had but not all as he told his son not everything needs to be printed byki every single the ra is done from beginning from going through thetive the could be felt and there's other materials so that's why the didn't put in everything he doesn't need to put in every single C of his whereas in the amount of new information that was just discovered it's K and that's why publish it okay now to one last Pro and this will conclude with today is as follows publishing all this as I said and this is what comes out part of what's going on is it requires a tremendous of to look through re research to look through ma have a massive collection so to speak and different tried to make it easier for clus that was his goal was his goal and all these and spells that also who has to go be search from all different far so now the question is is searching a and this is what I would like to conclude with is searching in a of in is this even a mean say I have opportunity I could just rely on a p i could have my I'll sit in my my uh my table I'll have my I'll have my maybe my I'll have my my sh Chua my Mish and that's it sh is do I have to is there any inan to be to look further in the newer um whatever sparm of the day Leal sparm of the day is there even any inion behind doing it but before we even get to that is it to go research let's say I want to go see if there's more materials than the and all these people okay that's the question so just to mention briefly there's a we've quoted it and discussed it in the past this is a tal writing down about the um interesting things so he has a piece in y and this was actually brought up I believe a bunch of years ago there was a whole discussion about using arar if it's good for the Jews or bad for the Jews because it takes away some level of your gear spoon feeding it for you so to speak so the same thing some might say if the shua or the P cha they spoon feeding to you all these chuvas maybe I should go do the research myself it's it's a my my but in this piece quoted from um basically they were boys at that period of time they used to have these rich boys they had a table and they didn't have to get up they would move around um theum to bring for them so let's say they needed a safer they just had to ro they had like some type of rotation on the table and they didn't need to go get up so to speak wherever the gamarra was they the table would spin around and they would have the gar on the other side as opposed to other people which had to they they didn't they didn't have such a sophisticated desk so to speak and they had to go get up go to the stor shine so to speak and get it and he and he was sort of upset about it so we um now what what in the world are we talking about this is before the printing age what's going on so without going into barus but basically if one wants to see there's a book from a yid not a yid a book called from Henry patrki the book on the bookshelf so he deals with in the Middle Ages how did the bookshelf come into existence and that we have today you have a bookshelf and bookcases it didn't just Happ all a certain one night that there's such a thing so in the Middle Ages they used to have manuscripts in the time like have manuscripts so there was such a thing it was a rotating table you needed to have room to have different manuscripts so rich people what they had on their table they had an ion that they could have a few texts open at the same time you say let's say someone learns A Mir Yesa you have a shender you have a gamar you barely have room to learn with another safer so if you're gonna have to go get up and climb out from your table I mean not your table your stender and knock down 10 people and 10 garas you're not are going to go run every time you need to look up aishan so do is this is how the K far was invented for people sitting in places like Thea you don't you can't just constantly get up even to look up a gamar so these rich people in the times of TR these rich boys they didn't have to get up they had up a rotating table okay anyway so some people said I even heard once on certain uh someone said it's a certain Rich Ain in the time of the printing press he already had a table and that's why he didn't become famous because he lacked thisa of getting up to look for this farm so we seeing there's some type of theud of getting up okay interesting and I'm just going to say three fourness about this and this is how we'll conclude number one um the he had a son who died young who ended up even though he's Hungarian he ends up in slatka obviously it's an interesting story it's own right and he writes letters to his father and he visited different people and he describes visiting the great ra zba and aave he says he has on his table a and when he's writing he doesn't have to get up to this to look for a ramb he has it all right in front of him he's saying this so you see even though he Tak in his far crazy Mount had crazy Mount Farm but he had it easy for him so he didn't he lacked this he didn't care for this nuda of having to get up um um every time out of his seat okay obviously there's a G right what does it mean okay now in which is the green monsters my was called from so they have a in a few of the volumes of different it's published a few times it's the same one from rutner rutner brings down from the searching for stuff you say that that's not what it's about but they think oh I did my research I look up 10 RS or 10 tras for that's called research that's okay um the the just to mention I'm okay the is like this there's a one time I was talking to this very I've quoted him in the past and it came up something he said um he asked me if I saw a certain thing it was basically was in the back of in the back of there's all these different so he he said oh you saw that what he says and that this in the he says I found it before there was what's called what was he referring to very simple today today most people don't even know that when today when you buy Moes the sh has there in the back they all neatly so you just turn to the back after you learned the mar you want to see if the rash or all these talk about something so someone put them all but it used to be when I was younger I'm not that old but used to be and the sh had this you would have to turn you it was hit or miss you wanted to know ifak said something you have to turn two pages of sometimes you miss it and there was and the different so there was so someone came up with and put the 30 that are in the back all the little pieces saving a lot of time okay so so Ras was just telling me ah I found it ready you know like someone tells you which I say to people you found I found it by looking at the book okay fine interestingly enough there was a once it seems there was different versions of the story but in short the story goes like this that um we have the Shas VNA so sh VNA did a bunch of things and one of the things was they put all in the back so they they said whoever comes up with a mistake on CH Vila is going to get up a surprise they said such a thing so because they were trying to encourage people to find mistakes to fix it to fix up the additions so it seems alzer had a he said that the the fact that you make me having to turn so many pages to find all that 20 different times and you should have come up with a type of thing that was a thing that should have been fixed that's whatz held on CH in our day it was fixed if you have most of already I'm not sure who did it first vak did it first or tal did it and then but today you don't have this thing so someone might say what do you mean you have to look so there's obviously some type of now RAB Cutler they quote a famous RAB Cutler based on the where there is a certain aspect that when you something comes then it has an effect on the Y that you you rem sometimes if you had to spend like you had you had to you some someone tells you that you had to actually slept to go find it it sometimes it has an effect on you and you remember it for a much longer time than if you would have just been spoonfed it but that doesn't necessar but obviously there's I'm not coming over here to try to give the this but relating Toki um would just say like this was very thankful for the ramb Frank why because he says he said it saved me a lot of research I didn't have to re search so many times far because I always wanted to know if asked a certain question I would open up my frankco rambam and there it was so we see even for there's this I it's good enough to know someone asked him about that we've said in the past people say um um there's a whole story we mentioned the different thing about it that this is what they used to test them at on on Friday nights because they had no candle they had no electricity his kids would test them on which is they would ask him all these different where they are so someone asked him is a good safer creates who could remember everything it helps it saves you time so evenki the a person who definitely understood these things he held yeah there are certain benefits for it on the other hand when one learns you have to be very careful this we're going to discuss in the next episode is you have to be very careful what it is that you're relying on you have to know who the of the said Le is the we know the we know we know the we know the so we know these were giants we have the and the what they're saying about so it's a whole different story now today there are Le Farm come out every week dozens on topics and everything and you have to know they could be there are and okay but we'll we'll tune in the M next episode and we'll be able to get closer to concluding with understanding more in what's going on the in the world of and then to just close with understanding more about the for today we're trying to keep it a little shorter than um some of the other episodes okay wonderful wow amazing background should a person get up to harv and get to very important question very important topic especially today with computers where everything's online do you even have to obviously we I'm talking for people I sit in a room that has Spar still many people they just sit they press a button and they have between I'm saying every person knows yeah I did a safari search I got this and search this and a Hebrew Book search this and a bar and then like they don't even know what a book looks like anymore and that that's very disturbing to me but that's not for him but yes we're we're um would you like to pull out something called a book or safer and show yeah yes let's talk about a book okay and this book is like this I meant to talk about it already in the past but basically there's a yid which we hope to bring on to this series of episodes we mentioned we're going to bring him on we quoted him already a bunch of times his name is RAB URI tiger if one wants to go get there's even an article interview with him in the um one of the newspapers this week had maybe inan I think it is has a whole interview with him um a very nice interview about his relationship with kki who's this rri after after when was alive but more when he was tons of videos appeared on the internet of him talking withi about different things he was to have a 20y year relationship with him as his proof reader um he read this far very carefully he had tons of AR and he developed extremely extremely close relationship with rki and one could see something like 70 videos are out there short clips very beautiful clips of rki in a whole different light anyway he's a a tremendous he's come to America in recent past few years a few times anyway one of his most recent in the in the summer time I believe it was he made a mitvah he whenever he makes a he tries to put out a saer it's called what's so basically is the r is famous that when he's M he has and so um so r hasak a few times right x amount of volumes so he is he said he sometimes has like a not your typical rambam so let's say if we're going to talk about we just finished and this is towards the this is the end of then he says says he says in throughout a few such places so what this decided to do is each one of these things he he he M has pages on each one of the r what's the in the ra what's the ra doing you say like the r is sort of like at the end of his each time he gave up so he goes in a type style which he got from his rabi which is one side a type safer on the other side kiter of the aid of what we're talking about type of thing in the B has and he's done this already already with multiple he's done ra like this he's done a thing that I've quoted numerous times called darkra and he he has a few others and this is a beautiful safer that just came out it's available for purchase in America it's less it's 170 Pages where he goes through all these rambam with tons of information and one could it's very it's very very enjoyable um safer to go through um and um highly recommend it and we hope to have rer on one of the episodes in the near future with us to discuss about who is devoted a lot of he knew him very well and we've spent a lot of time discussing him looking forward to having on I actually had the to meet him more than once M aad of a year a m such a fine person and he has a fascinating backstory which he's told some of it is in this in it's some of it's even in this article in the in the Eun whatever it's called that newspaper very good okay thank you very much looking forward to the next episode