Reb Chaim and Masechtos Mezuzah

[Music] welcome back Rabbi Dr elzar BR it's a pleasure to be with you on this ER of shabas is when we're recording my tai is not with me so elzra said that this is going to be a special ER shabas allowance so I appreciate that um it's the morning I am in the USA it's close to chabas so we're going to have that special AR of shabas kadha as Rabbi Dr BR teaches us about the safer that keski wrote on or he's going to tell us exactly what it is I'm not even sure um since it's close to chabas we're just going to mention that this episode and this whole series episode two in series three season 3 let me correct myself season 3 and episode two and the whole season has been sponsored anonymously in memory of and we thank the anonymous donor anybody who has any ideas topics that may be of interest please reach out to myself or Rabbi Dr Al BR and we will see what we can do so Rabbi doctor how are you today why don't you just take it away is it last week you spoke about the you know I didn't listen carefully enough um to know exactly what they all are so fill us in okay so last week we spoke about that kki went ahead and he wrote a systematic Parish over time starting in the 1960s on the seven M now one of those seven masas is m mza So today we're going to deal with um and with a heavy focus and his father explaining certain un hugus that might seem minor but they get to some interesting points inza and help us bring out some aspects of far in this so now like this he wrote um a work on as you asked and also on what do I mean like this um there's a in 1963 he finishes what he calls mza with a double Parish par a year earlier he had completed two other works on the other some of the other known as but this work is different already in the introduction of this work he throws out there like this he says um and Yani in there's not a lot of on not a lot of things need a big explanation not more than what I did with what I'm ever I'm able to get up to and he definitely does because this is a much larger work than other is over 100 pages but full packed with material where he goes through the sugya of Maza now but he adds something else he throws in an extra bonus at the end after now it's not clear if now he writes that he completed this in 1963 and right then he has something called M what is this with a to is theber so he has on one side a mish which is the whatever the Mish does in his Mish which is he collects the where he'll deal with sometimes something else and which will be sources and some small comments Mish modeling to what the missish does and now this is way before the is even in is even in the works okay so here we have don't worry we already spoke about says he's not passing so here he throws in in his introduction to this that it's not okay but he does stress that it's a dma of it's being it's taing the M fine he says now why is he why is he right this he says because of it's every minute whatever that alludes to which we'll get to in a different episode um fine and then he says since there's so many and there's so little perim again there's no Prim so you see again which is something which we find many other sources the primam is something unique there's no Prim in so he felt what if someone wants to know what to do you have to look in many different so he said he'll be from all from all the different and put together as I work finea he says I don't have some of the and I think over time he did get these that that he doesn't have but he does a um he does an incredible job of producing I guess what you call the first mission Brew like safer on h f now here we get to see ready it's ready before the out how he deals with complex which has a few BL and most notably has a few and it's relating to so it's very important we get to see him in action we get to see him dealing with all the issues using his incredible knowledge of kazal his his knowledge ofi well he'll throw in the that he needs or whatever else he needs of of the early sources again throwing in tons of what he saw and this is we have to keep in mind this is him at a very young age this is way before the is 35 years old he leaves no stone unturned in the Su and has something to say and add for every Prat some things he B but he he has tons of material he has stuff he has from his father he has he has stuff from which some we might see shortly basically he becomes known as an expert on this subject and because of this he receives hundreds of letters over the years okay and recently was published in Das na weighing in at something over over 800 pages of course it has a lot of foot notes but one could see there and we will see today some examples of some of the truis there um again even though he wrote very very biter they're full of information valuable information and we also mentioned already last season we spoke about and him had a big correspondence spanning years so one of the eies that they had of big correspondence was in h Maza and this those letters are published okay now since it was it Wasa but he held it's Nota but between me and you he knew that people are going to end up using it so he was concerned and had review the saer and he has comments from some of them one of them C on many pages it says who is this turns out someone who we will deal with at a later point in time okay fine now even though we're talking about in these years he's already beginning the parish in the 1960s it's it's clear that it was on his radar screen earlier as very simple way had to know this this in his K safer that he was working on earlier which was all the sources of the ram which we deal which we dealt with in season one all one of the First episodes he used this as a source for the ramb and to be to be a source for ra and one looking through K will see when you deal with over there already you see G holding I'm just being cute holding in using for the ra and others okay now last time I mentioned we do not find much use of this work say for example from when it's first published in 1851 and there's no systematic Parish on and comes around over 100 years later to write about it but I did find um in the past few days that the great his Masterpiece does use this work and there are times and he uses or and I found just looking very quickly for something else he also used it but again a systematic pish he did not write and this is is contributing to the world at the time now now um he uses many different we're not going to go listing at all the we're not going to do a a complete bibliography of all the works on on H Maza um okay but just to mention the safer that he constantly quotes is Y Yak published in the early 1800 hundreds is a very very work but even though quotes CAD over here I'm not going to discuss it um now I'm just mentioning this is a unique work which I'm working on I'm going to I will be devoting a special episode to this safer in a series which I'm currently working on producing about the Mish okay now one work I do want to point out kki does um quote cader which is not which is also under the radar screen of most people is a sa called it's from a Freedman published in 19226 and was republished in 1920 in 1972 luckily randomly I came across this work when I was a and I was man blown away from this work and basically the story about this work in brief is there was a yid in I'm not sure if he lived in but he definitely had a connection with the stier and he for for parnasa purposes he would publish a bunch of exatic different in the 1960s and 70s and he published what called the kimman the clim and he published a bunch of different I don't even think anyone ever wrote up and collected what was I once saw a list of all different swarm I I I think I own all of them or most them but he punched all different types of farm and some of these farm he gotas especially he spoke over with the stier if he should publish them and the stier certain of these Farm the styler encouraged da to publish them he held very important and all types of Exotics far out now so he gets from the yes to publish it and he writes he has a whole nice introduction about this saer and he says that now mind you this is 1972 so this is a few years after publishes dozens of times in says I spoke with about this work tells me that this God he show first shows him that this this God has many and then goes ahead and shows him different about this and encouraged him also to publish the safer and he goes ahead and publishes it had some from the B but just to show Berlin wrote to this Berlin who is Is Not only was a tremendous he had a incredible Library so and he and he didn't just collect he knew this so at one point in time he he was looking for something so he writes to this remark Freeman and he says to him you who are maybe you found Berlin is saying I looked in all these millions as far I didn't find them maybe you who are also now the truth is turns out thisan had a massive Library so what what what's happening is is Berlin who also has a m Farm library is asking him maybe you saw some information about this topic be there as a mate kki gets into the safer he quotes it all the time another you who was very into the safer is Ritz and the point is when you look at the safer you could you could see very quickly whyi falls in love with it it's a safe for using all the new at the time as I said this you had a mass Farm library and he quotes them in all different areas in in and he and he um and he goes and quotes him dozens of times throughout the parish and theik saer of his okay now that's just to throw out one safer and we move on now already in 1965 which is really right afteri publish his work in go son of puts out of work on the subject of mza what's it called so what happened is that Z was working on a a work on the so he goes ahead and he gets his son who he says is learning in pich and this Zur was also a great G um and he gets him to write about hza and he publishes a work on it's called but literally it also has he and he quotes in the work and and and it's interesting um also a similar type of yid with Incredible yed information using all the out there and everything okay so you see already after it starts and then from then on I'm not going to bother giving a a bibliography but even this week I believe I got an email about at least one new sa on that came out and if you search online in the different search engines you'll find Galore on the from people and regular people also now okay now it's found in which we in a in in something we say daily a times in we just started off with says okay you write these two in one at the entrance of your house what's the reason behind it says should always be remembering when you're leaving your house and you're coming okay so you see this thing hanging on the door it will help you with remembering about okay and he has a whole um and then he brings down all the various of of from the go to the r the ra says okay fine which is probably the source for the says this then he says says on his door he's not a andu this is the famous rambam okay earlier on we have a rambam the rambam says in also in then he says then he says but those that write inside the this a famous R quoted very often it seems that people started it became a kameha but not only a kameha that inside the muza not only did they have the they added in different and the like of this type stuff so ra says when he brings down this ra he adds similarly the many people we find today they have on their doors they put up all these types of by their Windows he says this is a fascinating obviously a approach but taking it based on he quotes the ramb earlier now so the point is that there's a there's a mitvah of of and there's a reason for it which but is there any other things behind that goes behind with the so I'm just going to throw out there in the incredible work on the Ram from B son of the which sadly a large percentage of it is still manuscript but the part on aava has been published a bunch of years ago he deals incredibly with all different aspects of this ramb with the Z with all different things going on over here and it's to look over there but it comes out showing clearly that according to the r the main is it's a mitah told you to do the Mitzvah and there's a reason behind the Mitzvah that's it nothing to do with any um other aspects of sh or Kamas or any of these other things that's not our Focus F say it's interesting because the r does throw in that there is something that they you write sh in the outside M wherever but you are writing you're you're doing this and that's not in the okay the from he throws out the for that is okay so it's as I said if you look in this say man he discusses it and we're not going to go into right now time is short okay Moving on but there's a talking about where you put the then it says says if you go on say so learns up in this gar what's going on to it's protecting the house from maikin maikin interesting it's a whole different it's another and it's based on look the he has different he also has some more emphasis in his G but if you look in another gar inar which will get to soon the famous with also it's clear there's a mus of so it's not only that told us to do the Mitzvah but there's something behind this Mitzvah that we were given it's for it's a practic aspect of Will on us not only the aspect okay so turns out that there's numerous besides the Rashi will just quote one says like this if people would know how good a mza is for them they wouldn't be it seems that people were not being so and he says like this and what's the it's based on the then he says in my house we have and he writes all the different places he he it's out there's of to protect from simar to this Rashi and there's numerous m in as Froman armor other rash and Professor collecting a lot of this material and others did it before him also so interesting over herei in this of his which we um and the m in the beginning he's talking about about mza in the Simmon where it talks about um how to write the mza he brings down that says what so and he doesn't know what this that's what asks about this means to say that it says somewhere in the RO of V tree that there not only is there that you're supposed to write the mza in a specific time frame at a certain time of the day so to speak and doesn't know turns out in some of these it's clear that the because it was and it was a aspect so there were M that said there was there's a certain there's different when you're supposed to write it and that's what the is referring to because it's going with theud of that it has something to do with mazikin okay but this is a a pratt in the Maza fine it's famous that people um um are told and there and there are for such a thing that if there's a in the house you're supp that one should check the and there are real reliable early sources and part of it has to do with it's not only maik that's protecting it's the trer incredible TR he has he was asked about like this people going to war so they go to a sadic and he gives them Aza Katana to hold on to sort of like a like a actual kameha is it good is it not good um should they do it and there's other M about in his work onal has some about it here so what does he bring down Reb lier he brings down this Ram that this is what people do they end up using the the tip that they they're you're using it for the wrong thing but he does bring and we're going to get to that there were Mak Tak yes that one could go ahead and um carry these misas okay F and and that leads us to the next nuda and that is like we be last week we ended off we discussed when when are these M from and it's a very when exactly how far back we could we Trace them and we discussed the F the famous rambam and famous question why are there noas why did re aades not have a which deals with these are that are have many manyas one just has to learn the in and the which many people do learn even people that don't learn Kum you see there's tons of for so and and you not only that if you go through I mentioned last week spent just months to learn it there's tons of material what's so last week we spoke a little bit about it so there's a Mah fascinating Mahal from in his beautiful work called so he brings down the ra what the r says and he says like this he says is that at the time when rebi was working right publishing working on whatever he was doing which was collecting the m is or collecting the existing literature not necessarily writing it as we call writing anyway the point is the Romans there was a lot of xerus going on at that time and they were anti- different aspects that theen did Lal they were xerus against at the time it's various such as in and against so now they so they couldn't do it the proper way so Cesar so they had to come up with differents how to do it just to remind them that there is still such a Mitzvah so they would have round filling like a kameha of some sort because that the Romans wouldn't stop them because the it turns out the Romans made it their business to know the of the of the of the Jews proves that earlier similarly mza they couldn't do it the proper way but they did all different type of things they put it in behind the door or in in in a ma and stuff like that just to keep the to remember that there's such a MIT they knew they weren't being M anything but he brings down makus that there is such an aspect for for and showing that even though that but it's just to remind us he brings a few nice m to such a concept and that's what ultimately is where come from it's also because it was against and he has um some other fascinating different things and he says what and the point is that they were to do these things and it shouldn't be so strange for us lash and closer to his time Nikolai harasha he made all different xas against the p and the of the because that was the concern it wasn't that they didn't let anything they picked on certain different things that they understood now another he also throws in a famous ran theer we find that they blew in a bar what's going on they're thinking all these weird different um ways had kind Mitzvah just is it St p no they were hiding they were all these types of are referring to they would try to come up with different ways how to like how to do the mitz okay so that's why in Early Times there was no such re could not there were suchas but he didn't collect them at all okay so mean to say these type ofas and everything they go far back why am I saying this this is just to give us background to what's going to come shortly over the generations were not many times were in which is getting close to the end of he writes people would say it's me and he says he says basically people would were being over and relating to mza he brings down what we quoted earlier from the ram Rutenberg that he had 24 mzas and he himself had many mzas they say on RAB there's a b Hill that says that rabam had 40 mzas and all the rooms in his hand house um and the point is the mar writes by that there's no heter to be M for the muus and people were being make um he says about himself that he had many misus in his house also far now the ra brings us down in and he says that people they have one under in front of the house this is brought down already in in the he's bringing down based on the an attempt for this and when one learns that's what you see all the different rooms and all different situations We Are One supposed to do the mza properly just to mention the ad in his writes about himself it's called that when he used to travel for the love he he was z v in the Mitzvah mza and he would bring muas with him and he would check to he and he would even bring a hammer to put it up let's say he stayed in a hotel to make sure he had a proper muza and when he traveled in different places he would he would um he would put it off for people he saw he would also check when he went into people's houses to see that they did the mza properly all this was for the of the Mitzvah and he went to different uh even let's say on vacations or when he was sick in different places he traveled a lot so he would give it away for free but the point is it was it was an area that people were weaken okay okay this is just again we um building up to to further on everyone knows when you one of the first one of the things that comes to mind with is it's on your house it's your it's on it's on the front of your house or all the rooms in your house you T you pass by you touch it other people know even more you after you touch it you kiss your hands so the sh is where does this all come from again we open up our ra brings down in the beginning of you put your hand on the we know already from other episodes what do you do when you're learning you open up the dark bottom line is brings down that's what it says there and then you say a special fine fine then we know it's not a maril it's the Mar's Rabbi the the marash and he had this on fine and what's basically happening is but we see nothing about after you touched the hand kissing your hand okay there um there's other aspects we're not going to go into all different aspects about the touching of the hand but what's interesting is is that the ra is adding in that's not only also where is it coming from it's a now when one looks in so now it sounds like from both the raama and the B that they see something in this garar very clearly he has a different his is now what does it say in the gamar so it's yua the whole story with Uncle Sager he was m and then they sent after him um the Romans sent for back whatever and he so he passes by when the soldiers are pulling him out of the house so he says the following in the in the whole famous story that everyone knows and touches the when he's being passed so the soldiers see him doing something and they say what's going on so he tells them okay so this a famous famous Kamar that people bring and this is what the raama is referring to dark and this is what the is referring to that here we see off in a marar that he touched the again nothing to do with kissing the mza but at least we have a marar for him of touching the muza when he leaves the house so now lki he's for this early which a saer which we've quoted a few times we quoted particular for this saer it's called which a tal of theum watched his rebi the maril and he watches and with all different of his and recorded them in this work which only published like 100 something years ago and says over there when when he didn't even touch it he what did he do okay I guess when he was going further away then he would touch it but but the point is sometimes he looked sometimes he touched it why we iski saying this we're going to get to shortly now but the point is we have and we have for at least part of the meing that people which is of doing this when you pass by the m so there's a fascinating saer on I mentioned many there's many many different one is a from AEL massive 800 900 page work he brings down from a CH M that specifically not to touch the mza in a r theu r is in um Sim fine now but we know not only do you touch the but you kiss the where does this come from so we know there a says and then he says you should kiss the fine then he brings down a whole from the which is not found in the first two printings of the um can it's a later maybe from his notes that he sees something from a particular Z in in fine we're not going to go into that right now one looks in early such as the both in his work and work of his published more recently we see that what do you do also another classic work to say these and why am I quoting these works because these works are before or parall time periods to the ran they're not necessarily influenced from the maril what do they say you touch the mza F but what about kissing the where do this first come from so this is mentioned in a bunch of different Works start but it comes from the Aral the Aral was when he would leave his house he would touch the mza and he would touch his finger the witch finger the and he would kiss it brings it on the page in today but we know this from these are the earliest works of the's materials published in format also brings us down and later on in the famous SCH the which we mentioned we spoke about the the episode onav they all talk about specifically kissing the m if one wants to see a collection of makus about kissing the um kissing the Maza from in all different cabalistic M so in his in his introduction to that he published from has ni material okay now we get to so the one person there a and this interesting he talks about this thing and he says like this he says that people put their hands on the mza and then they kiss it so too byra they don't even go close to the sa they see it from far and they kiss it he says bis what do you think the or the catches it from far and you're kissing it what are you even doing okay um then he says that they did because you're holding it you're kissing it that's one thing but to to do what people do he doesn't understand that's what in his work on he throws out there he talks about this Min of people kissing he says people make fun of it but a says no it's it's not a problem it's it is there is something behind it one of the aspects that he says so so now we have that the Mitzvah of one of the aspects with mza with we even have makus for the kissing okay say so now I mentioned earlier on we have he's asked dozens and dozens of questions about so first over here so he's asked about this ra where's the mar for kissing it doesn't say in the gar to kiss he says yeah the Mak is the that we mentioned then he says is it good enough do you have to kiss the or could you kiss your hand so he says the Min is you should kiss your hand but then someone asked him about that I that I just quoted it's he says no it's and the footnotes they bring down the mus and some other to be then he says where does it come from that you do kiss your hand another sh he says from here throws in a and the footnotes explain what sees from this gor then he asks what do you do if you're which hand should you kiss is it dka from the right hand so he says the minus from the right hand what about um someone's Lefty should he do from his left hand he also talks about that again all these are types of questions that he is was asked over the years and they put it beautifully all the different things about it then they asked him what about kish's meaning so he says Kish did not kiss the why it was it was hard for him um so and then was asked we see that there are the that they're not so he says it's good enough if you look at it and we saw based on what we saw up till now there are MERS for that then he asks should you do it the people ask them should you do it from every room he says yeah that is the Min he says I people think it's it's not normal he says no many people do it it's not considered strange and then he was asked a bunch more questions about this about this but the point is you see in the how he's being asked every single question about these aspects and he and he brings it to the and and he any answers and then the footnotes have a whole nice material recently a work came out fromi called this was a work that will hopefully deal with more at length but basically it's all the things that he collected from what he saw or heard from about Kish or from what he calls reliable sources so he says over here he didn't kiss the and he didn't even touch it but but what what did he do he will look at it whenever we pass by SOI wrote M on the and he says like which we mentioned um that is a mar for um similar to what to what the did that he would look just look at the muza when he would pass by what about the stier the Stiers meing so the stier in aru it says he would kiss and he would kiss even even before he went to sleep he would kiss on his of his door which also some for such a thing also so the point is we're seeing here in AA with the with with what what appears to be so far we're gonna we're we're um this minor which everyone talks about M for kissing not kissing but here is where it's going to start getting a little more levic and that is like this it says reer is a TR famous TR reer reer says he this is in TR published the first time in the 1830s they put their hands on the doesn't make a difference if the m is in is in some type of tick or not and then he brings down why it's a problem based on chabas we'll get to shortly and then he so basically he says basically that there's no such you're not supposed to kiss you're not supposed to forget about kissing the mza you're not supposed to be touching the mza what do you mean we just learned the gar the all these things all the m not only is it to touch the look at Bas and not only is it based on even then then talks about and then he ends off like this so he he know says I know you're going to tell me I'm missing a thing he says it's and he says it's so right away everyone jumps what are you talking about um the already adds on the touched when he left so in in um the rashash son in um an article in the newspaper so he publish a whole bunch of so this that he has on says what do you mean open up the saying that there's no so in my copy that I bought of the um that I got from a used bookstore one point in time of of this where where there's mention of that he writes this article someone writes the previous owner writes which sometimes you get lucky look in the look in the journal car someone talks about it whatever and then and this okay I track down this thing and what it happens like this someone says no it's not that he did it always and that there was such an hug he was doing it daa cuz he wanted to trigger the soldiers to ask him something they were told not to talk to him because they were scared that he's going to end up being me them which ends up happening so he said he did something that they're not going to be able to hold back they're ask what in the world are you doing and that's how he's going to be able to open conversation that's what happened but not that it's always an hug that one's supposed to do this is how this person this journal old wrote Such a possibility f is an incredible work called Chim from the aderas and his brother which is on one hand it's one of the most incredible works I've ever seen on the other hand it's one of the most depressing works why because basically they wrote his work when they were 13 years old Clum of col of of all different things with it's really about pulling out from of that said in all different places and being all different and they also deal with and all different types of things and they wrote this 13 pre-comp computers pre- everything you just like how in the world they do it so they talk about this Kamar somewhere in the safe over there and they bring down this and they say what's going on so they say possible is you don't bring a from and that's what some people point out knows about thear the point is it's it's it's not that we don't know it doesn't say in Theus did this always or a specific T did this always that would be Tak a problem but and to buy ice from in the story which is not that it's not a true story but that you could come up with different that's not called forgetting of okay the question really is what's going on over here what what's behind this so I was unfair because I if you look very carefully says what's going on he tells two there's a which also which relates to you're not allowed to touch um your are considered so your hands are cons sorry your hands are considered T so you're not all to touch certain things kiss are you all to touch or not this is a whole said you're not all to tou and that's what R is referring to the mza is hanging not in a tick not like we have a fancy case so you're going to touch the mza based on this it's a problem and that's what R says the whole time and and you look in the thing that's you're going against based on the in and and and this is how we pass so already it's not so P because when you learn sorry where it talks about this if you're allowed to touches let's say Mill you allow to touch the kid's doing G he's not doing it properly could you touch it or you have to touch it with a with um something to to with a Talis let's say to fix the stuff all like this it's a very big seems here okay this is a huge in this and one looks in unbelievable what's happening over there so of course looking over there and he and he knows all this rate and he deals with it in he throws the into in his when he gets okay it seems and gets to the last tunus that I want to bring here which is like this the the there's there's a from the that the had on said about that says when you're putting the when you hang the don't put it in something don't wrap it up in a plastic or put in a box because there's gonna be a between that and and the and the house so right away what's going on again so now we see over here similar to there's something up that they how they according to them they would put up interesting they put up to so now already this is a whole discussion the the has a whole piece about this um this this um piece of the gr and he he doesn't understand it says must be that there's something going on in in cabala or something that could be the only explanation says the someone whoever wrote it didn't understand what was going on says where is this brought down both in that we just talk about and his work now but the point why am I bringing this in over here not only to show some literature it's also this is some type of connection with which we have to figure out in which we'll also get to brings down that in the times of kazal and and and he has a list of different mcis they would they it's not so simple that they they put their Maus way it sounds like from the gr what in the world am I referring to okay so the story goes like this and that ties us back to um we have we have everyone looks at yza how does yza how is yza hanging so first according toer it sounds like on some level you hung without wrapping it up without putting it in a fancy case or in a case and according to the gro there's even an issue of a what's going on so when you look let saying the r the r says no you put and then you attach it to the woles the r says clearly you did put in a case f is an incredible work called from he didn't publish it on he published it he didn't want his name to be out so just was published without any name on it we already know it's very and the brings it whenever it's relative and brings it tons of times also now this work was published we don't even know exactly when it's published but between 1630 and 1650 see he has he has a whole about mza and he talks about this Su and he says that people that the um he talks about the problem that we mentioned earlier we said from the mar that people are M with M so what's so he brings down the r he brings down this about what's going on and he says people don't know how important it is to be so he he's giving which is part of this goal of the sa for giving mus on the different things that he saw people doing wrong then he brings down how do they put up to M so he he brings down Byer that they will put it into they will put it into some type of case and he brings all the literature about it starting to Cale there's a from there's a from in and he handles all this and that's how it was done now the reason why you had to do it on one hand but he said if you don't do this there's G to be a problem of touching the mza similar to what possibly Rea but he brings another thing what's going to happen is is because we said the on the mza on the outer side of it says sh it's going to end up getting M and if it gets erased that's a problem so you have to be very careful so you have to have some type of case for the so we consider this has which we're saying is also and and he's telling to a bunch of makis Andis in his work under he also um it's called he also brings down a say this was the meting in the times of K he shall Sue all the same suas he brings down up inar chabas and there's a lot of for this says in the times of that they would walk around they were scared the the muza would be stolen so they would put it in some type of thing um and it could he says interesting they were nervous it was going to get stolen that the aspect of Ras but even when it wasn't a but they were it people could steal it and stuff like that so they carried it around them thought there's other M about this we're not going to list them all out we have Rus we're coming to the we're coming close to the end and we have a whole about it also dealing with this so now like this how do they how did they hang them it's clear they put it in some type of in the times of even up to the r in his work on the brings they put in some type of case the right um they will put it in some type of glass case he says the he saw the SCH he would make some type of he also put it in some type of glass case and he was concerned about the sh hasem that shouldn't get similar to what we mentioned and the T also deals with and this is so now how's this tie back into the mar very simple people were nervous they didn't know how to deal with they're putting up a mza in plenty of places which is a problem it's kids play Mak of which is the it's they do in in the Middle Ages when they do or even even later on they're doing different things in front of the M they held it a B for the mza so therefore slowly slowly they stopped being they on the front door they had a Maza but in the in the in the house where they did all different things they got nervous so they stop doing Maza but the point is if you put it in a case then it it it possibly helps so this is all um what if you look in the T in a few places says that's the that you put in a case and this helps you put in they put in a glass case etc etc and so too has about this also Nowa and this what what ties with the um with the with also anti-Semitism over the years there was 10 tons of xerus and cl and all different periods of time so it's not that they were n sometimes it developed in why they forgot so to speak why they ended up stopping to do it and L there were times they were accused for magic and people thought the m is Magic now we already gave M magic okay now just to end off to Messiah right now is like this all these discussions also one could we and with tons of work he deals with this he deals with with Incredible and also dealing with all the various Ras being in each aspect he deals with the with the hands and everything and as I said with the gr and the he with the gr so the point that I'm trying to um emphasize and bring out over here is that kki with I'm taking this small little aspect of this mza with the kissing of them the touching to show that there's much more going on there's this there's this possibly which again people might say not but it's depends really on going back historically how did they actually hang them which which is tell you many different sugas complex different aspects one wants to learn the I highly recommend you just pull out your after you learn the materials and you'll see you'll be blown away with what he says to conclude this whole story um is with there's a incredible kavak cabala so he talks about we find what's the what when you make the what's going on over here so he it's K to learn this piece very carefully inside I'm not going to do that right now but he says like this the is a very strange what what does it even mean so he says he thinks it has to do with the has to do a lot with language also is moving movement okay so now all our movements going back to the and the ra has to be wants us to be because people are constantly moving so you don't stand in one spot so now the so um he wants us and you constantly batt withar so the mza is when you look when you pass by the mza which you're constantly moving it's to think in your head what is this mza to remind us um and that's it's at the front of the door to get us into our heads because we're constantly moving what it is which is to remember the to get the all different types of things and that's why when you go out it penetrates and he says I don't understand what he brings down about it and he and then he concludes and this is how we'll conclude there's a different reer reer says if someone goes from his hand house for a while it's possible that when you go back home you're going to have to make a on again why just like when you leave your or you take off your Talis you have to make another and then if you look in he comes up that bed but the point is this is part of the amus of of the Mitzvah of M so whether you kiss the muza whether you look at the mza whether you touch which all have M this is why wanted but there is this other aspect based on real sources that there's a aspect from and the like this is some of the aspects that we could learn fromi in his work on and his and his other far show with let's say and the other and of the