Rabbi Dr. Eliezer Brodt: Seforim and Peirushim on Maseches Rosh Hashana

here i am i have half an hour with rabbi dr elizabeth he sent me a few interesting topics that we could discuss as we begin the second round hashanah brought rabbi dr brooke how are you today okay why don't we start with rav zevin's intro to the different topics that are going to be learned from sex worship so while i was looking around what about this this afternoon i came across evan has in a book review that zeven wrote about a safer that i hope to get to um he says that everyone knows in the shiva world that there's a suvis is known as shaskatan or it's because it has so many different suggests not just relating to one or a few a few topics as multiple multiple topics he says rosh hashanah although it's not nearly as large as massachusetts it's the same thing and he and he then he goes and he lists out he says if you look carefully you'll see there's a bunch of there's a bunch of cygnus you have stuff that relates to rosh hashanah the the umptive we have house of shayfer in there but besides for all that you have seven black that relates which also goes off on in the animals edus you have other aspects of baltachor sugars that relate to mysteries carbohydrates even stuff related to schwias and he basically he lists out everything about it and that's what makes this massefter very good because you you're being exposed to a lot of different things that it's not just straight up um one or two topics of um let's say let's say in beta which was just finished is a mostly muktso or helpful here it's much there's a lot happening okay that with that introduction um that that's his introduction to his safe to the safer that he reviews which we'll hopefully get to uh later on yeah okay so you want to dive right into the resign them now ramban okay so like every so basically like this every massachusetts when you want to know what um i i've mentioned other times if you want to know which are the smara mono particularly you pull out as a safer although it's outdated but it's still very useful called surya elif from monaco from kosher famous for his tire shleima where he has a list the world are you shining there on the massachusetts when you pull out about roshana you'll see there's a lot of reassignment okay but i want to just focus on very very quickly about a few aspects of a few different um lesser-known things about relating to this first like every other sector not everything is what is that rashi was printed as we know many many times there's numerous manuscripts of stuff prepped into rashi over the years because it was printed so many times and and since it exists in some different manuscripts it's very hard sometimes sometimes even them they handle try to discuss what is did rashi really say it or stuff like that or some if you go back to manuscript sometimes you see that it's not always the way it is preserved in the print so there was a project that was started a bunch of years back different people work on it different people the difference one is a fellow dr aaron aaron from yet he's put out a few different sectors one of them where there's two goals one is the goal is to preserve what is the manuscript editions of rashi and second is also based on all this a running in-depth commentary where those two are people shout everything about rashi on the mercedes so that's one tool that's not available on sony interceptors but it is okay that's number one would you compare it at all to the rashi from a sifta totally different it's much different but he does by rosh hashanah not sure if he did because he could be the registrant before it was out but in he just recently completed sukkah and he does use he says it in the introduction he spells out that he used the article and he used um but he's focused on chat but he he uses whatever he could get to get what he feels is the shot on on okay excellent okay that's rashi what else it's an interesting tool many times people ask you know here's if there's such a thing and it's good to know that it exists on rash okay that's number one number two is unique to this massachusetts we don't have we virtually don't have this on any other sector is that in the 1860s a interesting safer came to print what was that it was the rambam 1866 to be exact rambam we don't have on too many mistakes but we don't have on any sector or whole rambam's perusam and at that time i don't think there was any perusam of the ramaman in particular we have the hazaka we have his perishable mishnah but not a parish on the gemara later on it seems it was printed a bunch of times at one point um let's say in the 1880s i believe it was it was print the new shalayan and you could see from the list of subscribers the good island were interested they subscribed to buy it through shoelace distance time zone felt many others and they were excited to have a hebro de rama now what's exciting about it is because we have the arakazaka here we see if if it's really authentic that it's the rambam how the rahman learned different circus not only the bottom line which is sometimes what you get from his yes we do have his chuvas which a lot of times he does explain how he gets his conclusions but here you have it like everything else there's always it comes discussion if it's authentic it's not pretty much it seems that it is the rambam at one point wrote a parish on it discussing it at length and i would say that most people seem to hold that it really is authentic today something that um available today yeah i'm saying hebrew books has a bunch of different editions of it so it's free downloadable online okay amazing yeah it does it now it does not speak about every single sugar russian shot but there is materials here um one one last point that relates to this parish is that we see the rambam that he also gave shiurim regular them in gamora and this is a in recent years there's been discoveries of manuscript material in the mesa the chirognesia and other places which shows the ramen we have shirum so to speak of the rama hashir as a matter of fact a fellow from the from pinova just mama right before sukkos it came out um a safer which has in it some shirim of the rambam so here also these are hidusham of the rambam as opposed to his holocaust okay that's number that's an interesting thing about that there's um so when you look at the list you'll see today we're very spoiled you go to any local based manager and you'll see there's arithmetic okay but it wasn't always like that for example the ramban was printed once in 1791 for the first time up till then they never had it you say no ukrainian had the ramban until 1791. now okay but when you and when you learn it it's very important but he wasn't voted right now this far and prior we have the most hummus we have more feminists but we don't have the bottom which also a lot of times this is new material and very important material no but even besides wasn't he quoted in other residents maybe they were twa and others yeah but as we're going to see we're going to see that the raja and ritzva also weren't available at the time so i'm just going in order of of them so the ramban there was another heber which is first printed in 1868 a fast name in hibern it's known as the russia of the ramban to rosh hashanah incredible incredible discovery um today it's available in multiple works um one the most critical the best addition is from of cats and ellenbergen it was i think the song over maisha herschler and the herschel rambans as it's called um it's with extensive beer and this drasha has a galata material on the sake of rashad relating to the rosh hashanah and plenty of halachic material relating to shaiva so how long is this russia and has it broken up oh it's very interesting you asked that question because this is a very long drasha how in the world so one second where did he say this russia in a nutshell is that after saif young of the ramban after he had the famous debate he left spain in the 18th it sounds like it's in the 1267 he gets started israel he dies pretty much we're we're assuming at 1270 so somewhere in those last three years in acto in artistrol there was some type of a jewish community there who otherwise shining we know about and he gave this to russia and this russia is fascinating there's unbelievable material in here however just um just uh um as time is short the the um there's been recent there's been recent fascinating discussions on every aspect of this saying a article from a fellow shalom yellow and also from a uh fellow a doctor israeli in his recent book on the ramban they deal with they deal with it it's authentic it's real and what's interesting is how did the ramban have time to say this russia this structure took hours they hired so someone i once heard someone said advice it must be that they didn't have such they didn't dive in as their diamonds weren't as long as our dominance in many ways today but others say it could be that maybe he said in a few different parts and then when he printed it he put it together okay it sounds like you said from even from the way it is it sounds like this was said on rosh hashanah okay but we don't know myself don't know historically exactly what time he said or what day he said it how he said it but that's still up to speculation anyway it's interesting thing to know because it relates to this receptor it has a very important material for the third and fourth proctor hasn't broken up it's it the question is how it's broken up is really the printers decided to break it up to make it user friendly design but it's it's a very smack a safer on rosh hashanah but it's not like it's not a light saber it's ramban so obviously there's kabbalah in there also and whatever okay next is the rajma so the rajba also the first time the raja was printed was way back in the in the um so get what was the exact year hold on 1720 oh so yeah 1720 is the first time the raj was printed on then it's not printed for a very long time turns out that even when it was printed in 1720 now we know it was a short version of the ratchet it wasn't complete so even if someone did have that 1720 version which most people did not it was not complete only about 25 35 years ago did they first discover the completer a much more completed version of the rajma and then a few years later more and more and more and if you buy the meister of cook edition of the rajma today you now will have a massive fiber on the sector with excellent footnotes it must be pointed out from around from professor or arrivedemotrovsky okay next the last reason to discuss relating in this group is the ritual the written result is first printed in 1858 so it comes out from all this that for the most part from the time of the printing press until very late they didn't have to be showing them it wasn't so accessible and even sometimes when they were they it wasn't even let's say i'm saying 1720 the rajma they didn't have it so if you want to learn the second roshan in those days it was pretty hard one last mission to mention because it's it's unique to this massacre from the from the rashbach famous in 1744 it's printed on rosh hashanah but it's pretty much not known but it's a beautiful useful hebrew but it's not as extensive let's say as the rajma but again it has valuable valuable material to know about these you shine them on them there are others i'm just mentioning some highlights because these have um interesting things about them so that's why i chose to talk about them obviously okay now let's move into um as time goes we have the regular acquaintance so like a lot of musceters you have such as the yeshua you have um the archoner you yeah yeah you have all these and many more that today in different watson that put out different things you know they find another few black from him and i'll see about it oh useful all are great um now which safer would i say was the one the first farm that was let's say acroyin and they didn't have most of the resident as you'll see in a minute as we already mentioned one afrin to worth mentioning was an african called zera israel virtually not known even until today but you could get it on hebrew books a great perish i don't know what type of theory is actually shot but interestingly a real lit fact before litvax became a thing but he's from lithuania okay anyway this safer was supposed to be reprinted many years ago and it still has not been i don't know what happened someone over 20 years ago i contacted me about it then it never happened but it's good to know today because you have hebrew books so it's easy to access those days it was a very rare station and one more time what's it called zera isro okay okay now that's printed in 1736. so until 1736 there's no real heber on the side of russia comes along 1752 the pressure prince is safe okay very good next when's the next um development is a safer which we'll get back to and then comes the turrie evan chagas aries prints it himself so towards the end of his life and this safer is a map it becomes the go to save from and of course today we have this um this massive work from a fellow in lakewood hundreds of pages with thousands of footnotes to be uh irish every tag of the safer um it's a 800 almost 800 page version from lakewood this is from rabbi weissman right yes yes yes very interesting he contacted me when he by yuma he had his terrorist humor that he sent me around he hasn't reached out about the tour anyway it's a beautiful job i think it is i bought i got this relatively recent um but what's important is it's not important what you see very interesting is how all that right now afterwards everyone was hanging with the toriel okay now i um i well i just want to point out relating to that one interesting thing there's a there's a keyboard which exists in numerous numerous manuscripts and different versions called kesa rush most recently was printed with a very catchy title but it's all the versions of the of the safety called casseroys these are conversations that rakhine belgium have with his tamid in one of the things it says um and then it says about going balshakis are you um for some reason and um without getting about reefers into it i always took it as that the guru was saying something like a little negative about that the shanghai is in the pilball whatever stuff like that now without getting into what the word pill means and what pitbull what it really means i just also like to point down that i noticed something very interesting i'm looking at the other way the shakasari's response that the guns might be not also yeah but that that that i understand would have held at the milo possibly but but my my my question was i'm looking all of a sudden at the murami sudden on on messages rosh hashanah and every piece is handling what's safe for the turrie heaven i would find it very useful in yeshiva very interesting and strange that this is the safer that he's going to be quoting the whole time the safer he there's no doubt he knew that this rakhine village ashamed to grow obviously it doesn't mean the pill the negative pill that we associate with pill pill and that's the challenge i'm just pointing this out um very interesting okay okay now all this these so become so the zarya stroll the playing show the tory evan these are the the man they pretty much especially the turian they remain for the next very long time over a hundred years i would say the main freighter okay there's an interesting safer up till now we discussed but i mentioned already earlier on there's a few blood and rosh hashanah that talk about this and kabbalah and now when you learn these blacks so pretty much for for centuries probably and even currently even when once that fiona began people learned his blood and he didn't understand it as well why because you have to have some understanding of astronomy now i'm not the player yeshua and the turian they don't really discuss the astronomical aspects of the suggests that relate to astronomy which shine them did but in 1778 it was an excellent safer written called the carbon racists on the massachusetts i guess maybe call them galaxian or whatever i don't know you travel in multiple in many different places i'm not sure if you could really call mcdonald's tiana but some people like to go mcgowan it was a tremendous gun review who delayed my bonus prolific writer now he wrote this kevalduka safer on massachusetts hashanah available again on hebrew books carbon racists he prints it in 1778 now when did i say the tori evans printed in 1781 so he only has the player and he uses the player sure he quotes the milani handles it and gives him murder coverage so you see the immediate acceptance of the pressure because it's creature was only printed right before that and the are yeah is a very important safer for him but the tourism he didn't have so he didn't quote okay but why why am i bringing him up he has a whole section where he deals with the astronomical the astronomy suggests he was very into this topic but and i would i wanted to stress that he's even quote his savior comes out in 1778 but when he he's already quoting a a key reshape in the sugiya of astronomy is the center called the asylum which if you learn the series of let's say the date lines or other aspects of it these are very important and safer atomic of the rush and for this safety when does it come printed from manuscript in 1777 and he's already using it even in his safer what what's the chat chat is that it's i quote that i call i have such favorite that in today today's day and age we have such people a lot of such people are from yiddin they're they're called astronomy junkies they're very into all the sugars that relate to astronomy anything that could do with it and there's many of them they have shirt there's this they have um um forums and they have shiram between each with each other and they're online many of them and they learned one such safer is a such one such fellow he's he's holding in many different areas but he wrote it say for recently it's called his name is raviol sheila it's a very nice safer if someone wants to get to understand astronomy and when you're learning rosh hashanah you'll see there's a there's a bunch of them small ones this is a very thorough safer and there's many many more um written all types and he and and even you've seen that scottish of the different khashoggi experts one such expert um i always like to talk about um is a because of a very harsh last comment to these type of topics and this is a useful tool to understand these blacks so already this safer carbon ratios i don't know if there's i'm not sure if how many other freedom handled those subjects he's one of the earliest uh on the block to handle these type of suggests and there's many such storms just to mention out the great doing of our generation he has a safety called shakalaka dish similar he also went to learn through the siddhis of astronomy well with different kabuses and he brings in a fascinating thing from the khasanesh that if the rambam included this material of how the calendar works and everything like that it becomes torah and if you learn it it's regular tyra even though the ramen took it from [Music] but this is a whole schmooze of its own right and whatever okay so those are some of the um those are some of the interesting things just to move a drop closer oh you're pointing out that if you would have seen terry evan evan would have been used for astronomy or not no i'm saying is that toriyama doesn't handle those sugi's too much you know i i have no idea what no idea i i i assume again i'm not assuming that true evan didn't know astronomy but some of the did not even till today some people it's very hard you have to have a more mathematical mind you have to understand it well it doesn't talk i'm not saying the truth i have no idea i would assume he did understand it he was he was one of he was one of the greatest of all afraid so i would assume he did have but whatever okay anyway i just like to talk about very fast um three more as i think time will allow to just talk very fast about three more um it's a literature safer this person wrote his safer through the mordechai let's say the mordechai has a return to the background through that he deals with most of them fascinating safer very unknown printed in 1901 he's the son of the great ramayana you know one of the great of the generation before that um who wrote a massive figure on the ether and others a fascinating statement but again today thanks to hebrew books you have access to that click of a button um until two years ago it wasn't available but it's i think even though if it's available at the click of a button i think it's virtually unknown okay now one more safer which is very well known for the london of the massachusetts the safer called 2s okay so i would like to just speak very briefly about the tourist mallet the author his name was rubios of zusmanovitz manovitz was killed in the holocaust by the nazis who was he so um again in recent years there's been more discussion about him especially um there's been a there's been more recent history uh academic history and not only academic history more interest in the history of the yeshiva world before world war ii um two recent books that deal with it one is a book from benzene kalibansky another book from a shleiman to kaczynski schlemmer texinski wrote about slobotka and talabanski wrote more about the shiva world before world war ii this review he was the son-in-law of the rosh shiva of slovakia he was born in yerushalayim he ends up coming to little he becomes a talmud amongst others over her emotional works epstein epstein's is fascinated by him he takes him as his son-in-law and he and he's any and he has a following in yeshiva slovakia um he wanted him to become his successor but that didn't go over well politics dealt with in these books not getting into all the aspects of it but it seems it was it was levitic like many other politics in in in different fights of these types he ends up he marijuana kept him was also the russia shiva besides lucky it was the wrath of slovakia so at least he wanted when he was leaving third circle and he should be the rob so he was actively the rav of slovakia for a period of time but it seems that also didn't work out eventually he goes and becomes a rob in a different nearby sadly he's killed by the nazis with his family now this safer is an incredible incredible safer um londis but it's written in a monument type style 76 simone and this is the when i began in the beginning with verb seven that he has a book review on a safer relationship it's this safer zeven writes how the safer is unbelievable it's unbelievable when you read when you learn it it handles again a lot of um terry evan but it's not written in a chat type say for focusing on the kajbanus in the particular suggest simultaneously or the touri evan it's written in simone style like so one could find different suggests that you want to learn more b and then you can pull out and learn a similar two from him let's say you want to learn he has a to someone about fasting rosh hashanah so it's not there's not so much gemara about it but it comes up he has some suman about but it's an excellent station where zeven already points out just to mention very one um zeitgeist thing side point which is safer somehow in the safer he starts talking about if you're allowed to go back to spain um there's a famous thing if there's a harem to go back to spain after the gersh somehow comes up in a in the in a in a piece of rev and um [Music] about it and there are zeven rights interesting thing he says historically is there really a such a hair he says if you look in sephirah and the truth there's no zeker for this theorem that we all know then it's a mysterious about pair and i mean it requires clarification this um just to mention to throw it out there a friend of mine um got very fascinated by this topic and he ended up researching it wrote it wrote a few series of articles about it and you know you shall be uh ashamed a friend of mine named rabbi hill goldwater and he ended up putting we ended up publishing a whole safer of his on the topic about going back to spain if there's such a harem interesting name obviously when you see the name kunda time story you're not necessarily going to pick it up because what what in the world does that say for every but it happens to have two historical so yes one of them is the story of going back to spain okay um hold on one more second to grab this three day h who knew him who was a talmud move up by ramasham epstein writes about him also amazing things and he was it seems a great great going okay now just to be messian with one last safer because today there's many hind tickets for him on the second i'm just going many other works so one of the swami put out is a eu in 10 safer seven eight hundred pages on the third paragraph of the massachusetts to end with an anecdote relating to this he says that he was learning this he was working on the safe in the 70s and he had a he was trying very hard to understand and he would at that time i'm not sure if he was a shiva or islam he was time learning and he came across the hazonation and hilfest shaifer that he could understand so he went down he slept down to benebrac those days it wasn't like today he's so easy to go he went down to iraq and for him it's a different world he's a different person from the he's from the mizrahi world to go to benibrak in the 70s and he went to the famous letterman and he asked he wants to know who could he speak to about we told him one of the great is the safer after with the safer it's while he was working on the scene very interesting has been recommended a few times it's called the country hey okay that's to sum up the in a nutshell yeah thank you very much for this we'll have to do this again i'm sure there's plenty more to talk about so maybe the next section they're coming up they're coming up quickly maybe stop appearing now for the next one uh oh okay let's say they got more