Rabbi Dr. Eliezer Brodt On The Haggadah

[Music] welcome back rabbi dr eliezer brooke so nice to have you again for this special edition on the haggada show pesach rebellion you've shared with me that you've been obsessed addicted hyper focused and i got this for close to 35 years now anybody who walks into a farm store could see that every single year there's just piles and piles tables worth of nuha goddess i opened the jewish publications i just saw art scroll tiny tiny had got lines along the lines of her goddess that are available just in english so just from arts girl and it's it's there's it's infinite the amount of our goddess that are available so who better than rabbi brock to give us a little bit maybe straighten out for us what's available how we can find what we're looking for perhaps maybe the best way to go about it is just open a haggadah and prepare the haggadah and see what you come up with yourself however many people enjoy looking through our goddess all the different purusha and russian machine in different styles different paths to follow so rabbi brock we figured it'll be a let's spend a few minutes going through some of it and i know you could spend hours and hours and hours and days and weeks talking about this so let's see how much you could cram into 45 minutes okay yes we'll definitely try our hardest cramaden so where do you want to start what's the goal what are you trying to get at what are you trying to get out of this presentation what should people get out of this presentation okay so we the the first thing is um is that in general there's a one point to mention is that there's a safer hasidum that's how it's known but it's really called sepharamasco from a nephew of the rush that he says that it's proper before yamtavin before the parsha to learn through prepare the parasha that's that one says on the on the um taivum and he also mentions that so it's important we're about to begin and it's up for some of us it's too saddam oh there's only one say there but it's a it's a nice long amount of nice amount of time to spend some time to what to what they're out there that could help us get through the say there properly that's number one um and the maril actually later on also brings us down as for young taivan to spend time to do it that's that's so my first intention over here is that um it should make it a little possibly a little easier um to know what's out there okay that's number one okay and number two now another thing i i also like is that to just to say at the outset is um number is two small points one is that i'm sure i'm people are going to complain that i'm missing this important work or that or that important work as you mentioned it's only 45 minutes when we hear the numbers that goddess that are out there understand why it's not physically possible to talk about all them um it's just there's not an attempt to accomplish everything it's just a smorgasbord as i like to call it some of the material out there number two there's a shaver muscle which is very important to remember which is basically he says something to the fact that each person's taste of a safer could be different and the reason has to do with some sometimes people are connected to a certain safer or certain so some people might like drush some people might like aloha some people might like shots some people might like remember some people like kabbalah and there's definitely all that available out there with the peso so keep that in mind also um before listening or as you listen to this presentation okay so hopefully after a person listens to this presentation he'll have maybe a little bit of clarity some more clarity and what talks to him what's available for for purchase and and to peruse as he prepares for pesach like you explained it's a very important night people like to be prepared somewhat as they sit down to their say there okay so um as we mentioned there's a lot out there so what's what's your first tip what should a person do what's the first thing a person should do before he starts looking for his latest haggadah and i have to mention somebody sent me an email and said that he's i don't know the words he used but he said adafomo fear of missing out for those who don't know what that stands for he said he bought 21 new hot goddesses this year is that even possible there are 21 goddesses this year supposedly there's more much more than 21 new i got this but i won't be get i don't know about those about this at this point but yeah okay everyone should have as much time to look through a few pages of 21 i got us okay so anyway okay so the first tip just to keep in mind is that there's a fascinating native worth looking at carefully but the native basically says in it comes out from the native that there's an indian to do secret season time all seven days of pesach so when you look at the amount of literature your children might bring home or all the books that are out there how can do it in one night or two nights so there's at least a native that you have all of pace have to discuss it and that that's part of what this pesach is all about so it's kadai to divide up a little bit over the many meals to discuss a little bit about um utilizing okay that's just a small little tip okay now the the first before anything is the first question is how many haggadahs are there out there this is a question that i'm always asked is there even a way to know so basically it seems i'm not i'm not able to say this but some bibliographers have said this the topic that perhaps has been written about the most in jewish literature is that there are in many languages with all kinds of perusian pictures whatever style one could possibly think of there and like everything else people specialize in collecting our goddess even though they don't collect regular farm every once in a while you'll see in a newspaper magazine um they'll have an interview with one of these types of collectors i once a few years back was that a guy that he had over four thousand haggadahs which is an incredible amount that he collected for over 50 60 years anyway um the point is that there's many types of agaves and why do you think hagar is something that people have an affinity to specifically why i don't know this is a good question what's special about it i don't know i guess the excuse is that it's it's partially it has to do with the mitzvah people are you know it relates a lot about commission so your season trium is one of the most fundamental things in yadushkai and the way the haggadah actually is set up but delaila say there so i guess some of those are some of the factors about it um but each person i mean i don't know because different each collector they have different reasons what struck them to start collecting um their had other collections i don't know exactly why it's a good it's a very good person are you the person who has four thousand it can't be you because you're not around 50 60 years but how many of you have no no we i believe in you don't you don't count them because it's in horror um but uh but uh some people do count them and they whatever okay and then it also has a question how you count them is a per if let's say you have a god that has 10 perusma of 10 different people is that 10 perusian 10 anyway bottom line is getting moving right along is in 1901 there was a bibliographer named shmuel wiener he started collect he started making a bibliography of the jewish to to list them out there as late as the great bibliographer of ramyari he wrote a book called bibliography he started the list this is how it looks people people like to see show and tell so and he came to a list of two thousand seven hundred hybrids okay um this list after he after he completed his list the different bibliographers wrote into all different ghosts that he missed and it's not everything was his fault because they're found all over the world different collections as it predates the internet that we have today where everything is a click of a button anyway later on in 1997 from hebrew university it's printed his version of a bibliography a incredible job he has um his final number only up top of this including toe printed in 1960 is and fifteen now when they include a haggadah it's any type of a god it does not necessarily mean it has a parish of course since nineteen sixty there's many more habers have been printed just this year alone there's thirty forty i have got this and again if you're just gonna if you can include every type of font forget about it that's animals anyway bottom line is it's become a minute for many people is when you go to this farm store what is that before pesach you have to have a new algorithm okay so that that's the first thing the number out there there's a it's a very large number and the number just keeps on getting bigger as we speak probably there's another being printed anyway yeah you you got away pretty easy on that one without giving a number how many others are out there um any recommendations for somebody wants to understand when was the haggadah written who wrote it when was it set up and how has it progressed over the years i mean the ram has a different haggadah what's the classic and what different goddess are out there i guess throughout the generations okay so this is the there's a lot uh my regulators just to mention a few of them one is a classic it's printed in the early 50s maracan cusher basically um famous for the teresh leima he began working on a project to do a similar to what he did with the terrorist and he basically towards the beginning already he commissioned rabbi shmuel ashkenazi um someone that i was there to get to know very well over many years was nifter in the beginning of corona and he did most of the work um and basically what this haggadah has in the beginning is it has a series of many chapters where it discusses all different anything you you might have wanted to know about the layla sader it's approximately 40 chapters you want to know um a collection of the rishai nim and and some important earlier in what happened in a very systematic organized manner this was the place to look not only and it and it's part of the point is that it's not it's not 20 volumes it's one volume it's not so thick you could see it's available even today and as the case with many of rabbi ashkenazi's writings it's well written very well organized it's based on a very wide range of sources including manuscripts ganesha fragments and it's formed the basis for many virtually all good haggadah since from the 1950s and onwards when they we talked about delaila say there in different aspects they're using the sagada many quoted and some do not um the second part is also an important work because it's it's based on shot collecting from something like 50 our goddess with um very clear written through the layla there brings you on the top the nursery of the haggadah on the bottom will have the purusham of people so someone's sitting at the say there and you have this agatha this is very useful a lot of times people ask a positive track question here you have it in the bottom okay till today this is sort of like a classic um both in the entire world and that could end in the academic world okay i'm actually working on putting out updates of his from the past 50 years that he wrote on the sides and he put in papers inside his hagadosh depending on if i find the time and funding for it it will happen faster anyway this is one haggadah that's very much quoted and very useful and available till today another report in haggadah was written around the same time which is from daniel goldschmidt famous for his marxian which is more academic with the manuscripts also very useful until today one could get it easily um it's not as expensive as as the the ashkenazi slash kasha goddess leima but it's also extremely extremely useful another another more recent useful haggadah i'm a work on that others from pesachtoyas from professor joseph barillan he he he it's not he talks about a lot of the aspects that in general are also niger then again either how lacha mishna plays out matilda diamond vegetables yay and all different things but a lot of things related to say they're also also very useful and available today one last work in this section that i'd like to mention is from professor david henshka called manustana a beautiful beautiful haggadah this book only came out a few years ago it came out in um unusual i am immediately it sold out 2016 it sold out literally in two weeks it was reprinted in time for pesach today you could get it um relatively easily from the magnus website now what's the significance of this hagado so like this prophet i'm just going to say very bakitzer it's professor henshka there's a nickel from the from the the hershes the brewers he's a tremendous tamil he learned in the yeshiva world under the fisheries of close tower of guzman and after a while he was a regular magazine in israel yeshiva he has a tremendous command in even kachim and tyrus like unbelievable his works show in general and this work particularly shows an incredible command of faisal and almonds but he also shows this the same time impressive breath in academic literature has a deeper understanding and how to use it with all the new methods he's also a very big machadish and he has a lot a lot of times he has a fresh look on the materials of the leila sader it's done with tremendous years shamayim with tremendous respect for acharya he talks about in general um professor henchka was i did hear i heard manish here from also it's very shot it's attempt to be shot it discusses etc etc um and if one wants to have some samples not necessarily a material that's in the book but chapters that parts of it did form into the book later on you say they're not identical chapters of the book but material that could be found in the book we're more than happy to send you some samples and they'll say but it's very eondic it's one requires um to sit down and learn it's like learning in the kitchen but it will help you change and understand from the many people that have gotten feedback about it after i recommend it to a lot of people and varied to freedom with this book um you can email me at aliases gmail.com and i could send you some um some chapters of his material about it okay excellent as you mentioned your email address and if anybody wants to get lists of availables forum and articles every young tiff oh you guys just send that you didn't say that you have a pesach why are you still sending so if they want they could send eliezer brought an email at eliezer elizabeth gmail.com to get added to that list as well okay so the many people who want to know where they can find relevant halacha they'll say what do you recommend for that so already from the times of the resharing them and onwards did russia's before shabbat sagada or and they also brought in they dealt with the say they're very specific as and there's constantly new discoveries being printed um just last week uh or two weeks ago uh professor yakuza spiegel printed a talmud of the rush droshas which also has in the safe of joshua salatara has at least one or two russians relate the pace up with many halachus so it's constantly being changing so one could always find to go to this farm store that year there's usually going to be some new region with al-aqsa russia's from acharam it's also the same type of story just to mention one as it wasn't available for for many years and in recent years it's become again available is he gave it to russia in 1587 he's the raven prague and it was very rare very important russia with a lot of halakhas it was but interestingly enough it was written in the form of a shirt there's a lot of cabal in it also and um you authored other works in in the form of of song um there's other people didn't say some such thing marshall did it martial we know that if specifically it was easier to remember to keep people interested maybe that's why he did it bottom line is that these are there's a lot of aquarium are constantly being discovered or rediscovered or new manuscripts or things that work that weren't available for hundreds of years because of being rare now they're people always looking for something new but fast forward to more contemporaries the first one of the first contemporary works that's written on the leila say their world allah's going from beginning to end is called the yagi maisha from a rev i think of cats it's printed by his brother um he dies in the holocaust somehow the work survives as the the katz's nephew worked on putting out the work properly and i think even this year a new edition of this viagra malaysia came out it's full of valuable information about talila and it's quoted in a lot of the liquidum on the layla satan but um and every year literally many many swarm come out on in in my humble opinion one of the till today one of the best works that's written even with even though it was written before the various search engines such as google books is the seder it's a three volume set from weingarten and this is a um here just to see one of the volumes um is this i think it's still i'm pretty sure it's still available on the layla say there's over 600 pages volume one is the halachus volume two is agada which he sets up very well dealing with mashava and agada going through the say they're also reorganized based on a wealth of sources and volume three is the haggadah and he sets it up very shallow oriented a lot of the questions that everyone has when you're learning when you have a um you have a say that people ask basic questions quickly you don't have time to pull out all the millions of books that exist there could be stuff api there's cabala reshiner everything could be in there and it's very easy because sometimes there's people don't have time to prepare so much easy well written straight to the point and if someone wants to have material to say over a boy wants to impress his uh future schwerer or his schwer it's also a great cheating saver anyway bottom line is these three volumes are to die to get two last um works in the thing even though as i mentioned many more values f has a hazard many years ago which was summoning of different specific union on different parts of the seder with impressive ascamis it was two massive volumes and later on in his set value which he ended up doing on a lot of um the mayadam and shabbos he has one piece of also incredible kedarka bakay dish of many different mama combinations one last item to mention or it's a command in the recent years where mazuz um has a two volume work so far high nissi i believe it's called um very useful interesting not the typical type of material in the laser halacha minig his own type of tyrus and one could find very interesting stuff to say over to say upon him that's some of a small amount of the aspects of the hussein that's after okay so after someone has time to go through all that he does a little bit more time and he's looking for something maybe he didn't find the vart you know to impress his family in the previous swarm what kind of like kutima are there out there i got this that a malacca from different i guess we're shining them yeah so so first we'll start with the actual texts of the russian and then we'll go through acrylic and then we'll get to the if you really want to just have a good cheating safer out there so first we shine them some people like to ever shine them they like to learn through the rush items so um in 1998 racer of cook printed a beautiful edition of zagato in their set tyrus iam and it instantly became a classic bestseller it sold out already that first year i think was printed two or three times already this haggadah has twelve different purushima vishainen based on manuscripts and has very useful footnotes it's very worthwhile for one to spend time learning this not obviously during the seder but to get the push-up shot in what's going on in the various parts of the haggadah it takes a lot of time and patience and it's not easy might be to die to spend a year each year to go through one or two such purushim and make notes but in general many of the push up shack questions could be found in these rashinum um and it's a very beautifully done haggadah um but there are numerous works of ishainan council being sometimes the new ones are being discovered and ain't no diversify i'm not going to mention all of them that are out there i have rahmanis on everyone um one i got that meister cook ended up putting out little um more recently was from ravage aurelie's brother um in his set called terrorist recitals he has a terrorist atrocity manga where he collects a lot of russian among that god let's say rabbi has a piece on that he puts it in there and we show up and sure but all these types of pieces relate to that god that are not and he doesn't play around with it he just puts you to text so if you like recite him it's also useful one last thing for roshanim is um as i said it's constantly there's constantly new things happening so just last week a new leaker came out of the rambam and who based madrusha from reference available than others from iraq should be available in america already maybe even already today or any day now basically uh work which he collects the rambam other people did it also but he seems to have more material the rambam and his son anything connecting to the lil has said there um and that's some on um you know some very very bukitzer of the roshan that are out there on the layla okay wow it's only 21 minutes so far something like that uh oh okay so contemporary goddess you're up to there a contemporary not yet no no yeah okay so so first we'll go through okay um a lot of times not because we're on a high madriga necessarily but sometimes it talks there's more it's closer to our kufa so we like and enjoy the the um lush and the longer lush and so it speaks to us more so one of the first haggadahs printed is the abarbanel zavaja pesa it's first printed in 1505. the first tagalog that has a parish that's printed and it's printed numerous times so i think somewhere i saw over 100 times it's printed in english art school has it i think some other people have translated it i do not know the differences but meister of cook recently in recent years has also put out a nice addition of it now like this what is this what is the about else everyone's famous it's famous that asks many questions there's a famous joke that uh many people went off to derek because on shabbos they used to after the suda they would start learning the cassius of da barbanel and then they will fall asleep before they got to the answers so they whatever okay but anyway by the haggadah he has approximately a hundred questions and he proceeds to answer them in a very clear manner i'll be shot and it's considered till today one of the classics it's beautiful it's very very kiday to go through one year or maybe two years however long it takes the mom lawyers i got is heavily based on it and it sets the tone actually for a lot of her goddess later on what i got to talk about is the mice hashem hashem didn't write a haggadah but he wrote a work out of ashkenazi the bandar of the rama and the ace of cairo one of the delegates of that also was very shadow oriented so he has a um in his perishable attire tower called this on a running perishable today like everything else they made a beautiful addition just of this agatha more than one edition of it worthwhile to buy very shadow oriented and he also deals a lot with that barbano anyway moving moving right along as as the clock ticks we have the gra the gra um this was actually one of the first writings of the graph printed um and there's numerous editions of this there's a lot of shot stuff there's also kabal stuff in there one edition of this hagado that i would recommend is from a um noble i believe his name is he did a very nice job the footnotes are very useful and understand the gra a lot of times if you you we take for granted a certain certain pieces and we think uh you understand them and then people ask them and people ask questions on them and like they kill they caught him on different things but if you learn it very very carefully you see there's a lot happening there and it's very well worth one time to go through some of those pieces some of them have become some pieces have become classics moving right along the same thought around the same time zagato called marble sapper marble sapper the author was ruby did you tell vile son of the carbon assanil on the rush this ago was printed in 1791 and until 2002 was not reprinted it's interesting is it doesn't say the author's name in it um but we know that it is him um as early as in the saint goofer with as reflectless which we'll discuss as i go shortly he talked he quotes something from it and he says that this is he's the author anyway we know for sure it's the author we know um we have the his we have other kiss fey out of his and we have the saviata this agatha actually exists in hebrew university today anyway this haggadah it's not limited to shot it's it includes rush and ram is also he has interesting explanation stuff that one could say over at the table he has material from his father he even has some stuff from old manuscripts that he seemed to have had from china anyway it's a worthwhile um a version of that that will be found on hebrew books which agga of hebrew books has well over a thousand i got this this is how the marble of sapphire god looks in the in the new edition worthwhile i'm checking out um another haggadah myself rebellizer israelis are fleckless he was born in 1754 dies in 1826. he's a he's a he's from the mishpacha of the cliaka famous darshan from prague but he was now he's a talmud mother by the name he eventually takes him over and besides her being a guy in illumina isaac he was also unbelievable darshan he we have a few valiants of his drush which have been very hard to find until recently in bara park has taken upon themselves and printed a few of these volumes they also recently printed izagada a beautiful beautiful edition of ragada a lot of drush and a lot of good stuff to stay over um not the typical type of material out there okay moving along another haggadah in ukraine that also gets very much quoted is the nasiva's sagada now just to stress the nasivis even though in the shiva world um everyone knows he sort of gets the he's he's always the machine and uh people don't necessarily realize how hush of denisemas was they know he's kasha but they don't understand how she is so a friend of mine um ellie markin from lakewood he actually mentioned to me once he was looking at something and he came across a fascinating thing in the so he writes in his introduction on which is on your daya that he that he met he was zaika to meet the messiest now you have to understand that adam was a dying and vulnerable he knew the and he knew many dilemmas the talmud of the nineteen yehudah so he saw the big the big giants out there he right when he talks about the um the sivas he says and it's interesting to note the title how he refers to the sims alcohol is considered a special agatha there's new editions of it and um and that is very well known okay another famous agatha worth mentioning is from the native also available in new additions with urim and here it's kadai just we mentioned all the way in the beginning i said that native says you could do it all seven days so it's a famous legend at this point i don't i'm not able to find sources for it but there's a famous yeshiva lore so to speak which they say i recently heard my rav rabbi david um david he said this over he heard numerous times your salvation saying over the contrast between dalai la say by the native and the basal and they say they say that basically the basal levy the layla say that they were all nervous they were nervous if there was comet's still in the house if the mata was not comets was burnt charcoal if they're gonna makes man every possible thing they were nervous about is they're going to make hazards if the if the if the mar if they ate the right amount and tell me them that eight by the by the basal levy they they did it they walked out they felt pasha that were they even yay to the mitzvahs whereas they they talk about how they they say there was unbelievable and we do have accounts of people that were by the native by the say there and they heard all the tyrus of his this torah ends up being in their mercy is perish some of it is found in his workout it's very kadai to learn the parasites of shamoys very body from the native one year wars perish on this very shot incredible stuff and and also they said that at the end of the saturday he said share share and on that also he gave us he has a say frontier shield incredible so he would expound on all those tires the contrast of the different saddam anyway moving right along just to finish up a few a few last names um just i'm just managing all different types of names because it could be one will talk to one person want a different person this is where yeshua hello another great great guy um from of luther as a parish early isharim this is a high eastern and other great guys these are beautiful beautiful to conclude with three more haggadahs three four more goddess of of this um it's been the first time it was printed was from manuscript in the early 70s then they reprinted it more recently it's available there's the arkhasho nagata from the arkhashohan and here i must say i when i first got it i couldn't put it down i was reading it for hours straight um it's unbelievable drush but drush that you could say over a lot of parts you know you always picture as a pasik you don't picture them as an unbelievable darshan with your say this and even some kabbalah in there but forget about the kabbalah the drush is beautiful and to conclude on this section is this removable sagada if you if you're a fan of removing ghost's style it's excellent there's two parts actually this one part is a liquid from different casitas very nice stuff to stay over and also back to a lot of times the development of the laser very smack of small pieces that one could say over with the river goes to sharp char verts could be found it's like other also recently redone it should be available and the last that god also was recently redone also not so well known was her true farber a great little chicago who ended up being in england um and hisagat was recently printed also very very nice stuff that one could say over akapadam this is just as i said there's thousands of others just to mention as the time runs out on me some of the haggadahs that are out there wow fascinating so since i'm talking to you i could ask you how come you didn't mention i got it that i have used in the past i found that it has a very nice structure of the whole agarda and its questions and answers is the mountain hug ah so that's a great question and i cannot and we're not going to go into it but it's been very heavily debated it is a beautiful agatha but it's been heavily debated in the past five ten years who is the author of this haggadah lots of articles have been written about it and each one has tried to make a case that it is the album the other side has made a case strong case is that it's not them album um so therefore i didn't mention in the list but i know many people love the haggadah because it's similar to the mountain style and it's a very useful agatha and as you said it does go through a lot of the parts very shallow oriented and it's a worthwhile i got to go through whoever wrote it very good okay so i rushed you before so i don't know if you're up to contemporary yet i mean you're looking temporary yeah yeah yeah so so now we're ready i i i have rahman so we'll go like this first is usefully coop them so in recent years there's endless amount of usefully cooked them so one such one is the uh when we ace of experiments line rush to get out of it similar to their styles of other collections and it's a very good haggadah it's a very nice like they tr the editors try um say that in the dhamma they emphasize they're trying to be chat oriented they use many haggadahs um and it's a very useful god until today um also good good material to say over another useful agave that's come out in recent years less than 10 years ago which has a lot of aloha a lot of shot a lot of casitas and it's a nice monstrosity i mean like everything else they do they have all types so i'm talking about the the one that's like the all in one have gathered from them but that's um and i'll just mention one because otherwise people um just to throw out there a contemporary person today so there's a very nice i got the remember viktor nevinson when the great kadailam that we have hashem still alive we will be talking about from so in his series call you shalom so he has some very nice small say over on pieces from on the last and and other schmoozing relating to the layla there could be found in his okay so this is just a as i keep on saying um some of the materials out there um to make it useful okay so we should have that whoever listens to this episode and has a hug they enjoyed that wasn't mentioned here should send it in to us either tell the broad gmail.com or to us at uldaph or pressure wherever you want to catch us either email or whatsapp we fascinate to hear from all the listeners like others today enjoy um okay you want to put a wrap on this so just we i just i'm talking about two i'm going to talk about just two more um pieces i want to talk about so one is like this sometimes people ask you is there any unique other so there's uh obviously there's many unique i got this one that i found very unique was written during the holocaust by a belzer hussein and he wrote a parish and he didn't just write up here she had that god in the middle and on the side he had something like six purusam here's a picture of how um not sure if what it does justice to see it but it's written beautifully it's completely legible somehow his young daughter survived and was able to save this he died he was killed in the holocaust and it has all types of perusan it's a beautiful beautiful agada and eventually was redone in a much more user-friendly manner and one could see it over here and it's very very useful and it's great it's great stuff but it's unique as a person during the holocaust during the crazy times he was able to sit down and he he it there's no crosshairs six perusian going on in the haggadah what's it called again it's called the base of ram base aaron and his name let me just check his name i know he was the bells of hassan i believe his name is aaron friedman okay um and that so that's one unique and now i'd just like to conclude um just to spend two um three to four minutes but with the following him laila say there everyone is we as we said everyone's always looking for our goddess and they're looking for aces how to make it interesting and uh etc etc so there is another um genre in the collection collecting of our goddess and that's called picture hagaris this began already in the time the middle ages and it still goes on until today and and the story is like this is the in the 1960s just as funny there was some the disc image the disc in orphanage began to to make when people to get people to give that some money to them every year they would find some rare exotic haggadah and they were printed in a very nice addition um here's an example some of them are legible it's called the haggadah of the chinese jews from a manuscript and it has a and has a whole fancy hagdam of three four pages some unique things that one could find in it a different god that we have the godda of the banay israel of india and they have numerous new sagas from the 1960s onwards they still i don't know if they stopped or they stopped very recently but it became a collector's item there's something like 40 50 of them and each one when you open it up there's an introduction a lot of them are written by tavia preschool and others and they're illustrated a lot of them and you can learn from these illustrations a lot of manhogen what they did in the day and also a lot of times it's also for the different parts that i got the it's a good springboard you have a kid and you show them this picture you say oh what's going on here and it triggers different things going on now this this is a huge subject one could speak about this for hours there's numerous numerous books on just even on one i got of them many different let's say in the i mentioned right in the middle ages so there's books on each manuscript already there's whole books on them there's an intro but if let's say one wants to have a crash course so there's two books two recent books about them one is from yes if you shall me called haggadah and history which he took from well many picture a goddess um five centuries worth and he and he shows all different types of interesting things one could see from from different haggadahs that are illustrated over the years just to uh another thing that some cipher had his talmud of the some cipher he made for the for a present and illustrated hagado here this is a picture in the haggadah um that's our this is um here is the the cities that with paro um another illustration so i'm safer made for the cipher this haggadah um and and he ends up giving it to his wife sometimes he gave it to his wife this german translation on the side one could see i think the original is color here one could see is that this is german and there's different editions of it and and so you see it was given as matanas even by the time cypher another such a brother just to mention is the um korean put out a god it's called signs and wonders which they started they they actually joseph ishami does it more from the printing they took even from uh man manuscript i got this famous manuscript i got this okay but i'm i'm not going to go into listing all them there's a lot to learn from me i'm just going to be messing with two with uh two three last points related to this in 1526 there was a goddamn it's the prague edition of ragada it's considered by one of the most important illustrator brothers ever to be published and um there's something like 60 pictures inside it anyway one could learn from it i've written articles in both hebrew and english about it you can learn a lot of different interesting from it and what's significant is it's written before the shoghnar so it's very interesting to see certain things how they were knowing okay but the question is in general who are all these picture hagadis and and that's why i'm bringing it up who are they meant for so it would seem and this already i see in the ramyari writes in the introduction to his volume it was probably and a good chance was for to get the who's the leila say the devoted who's it for it's geared for the children and um the special audience of the layla say there's the children and the best tool is to get them to be able to um get into it to be able to mekaim vega at one time i was i wrote an article which relates to various manhunt that we do throughout to say they're very well known we do different types of things also to get them um into it so pictures was a way through visual aid to get them to show um you're not just saying the haggadah some for some especially younger kids it becomes very boring so here all of a sudden you stop and you show them a picture from a haggadah and you say uh what's going on here and a lot of times the pictures are based on madrashim and it helps lighten up the mood for the adults too now what's the significance of this to be messiah with this practice is raised the issue that it might be a problem to look at illustrated because it's not partial one to look at captions of captions of images on shabbos but if the shot is it's to educate children it might be that this is a limited hus to for looking at these agaves and it's clear from some of these goddess for example there's a 1590 i got from prague who had in it the rabbits who i mentioned earlier who gave the russia he was involved with the haggadah so if he's authorizing a picture of and as i said let's say the sam cipher he's giving his wife and there's a caption underneath but obviously it's muther why because this is a way and i'm sorry for also we see we we know that he was very into the the the children for the last either his wife is everyone should be able to participate and that's a very important point in the last even though there's so much so much material out there um it still could die to remember them who's the main audience for the layla say they're for in many homes it's the children and and one has to be very careful to make it god um for their age age appropriate as they say and that and this is just some of the materials out there and on as i said on the topic of the images there's a lot to talk about but this is just to me i feel that you just we got to cram in as much as we could in this short amount of time um today okay wow we should have done this like three months ago but okay so mr shem everyone can pick up a couple of our goddess and enjoy themselves preparing for their little seder and together wish everybody they should have a sader where they're able to grow and have an aliyah and rohnius and feel and feel them becoming part of the jewish nation as we become once again every year there's a new it's yes mitzrayim once again i just want to mention if anybody wants to be part of the email list that rabbi brought sends out with all his original hidushim of swarm and articles and all the things like that just 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