LIVE SHIUR: Rabbi Yeshayah Berlin (Pick) and the Beis Medrash of the Gra

foreign [Music] broadcasts online and I figured he's in Lakewood at least tonight obviously going the outside we could have something that has some Shadows to the guy Tom he's not really about the going but they could rely on him that he'll make some kind of connection to this message was only going and uh so okay so first I'm just gonna say briefly just a few introductions number one is thank you for hosting it thank you for arranging it okay that's number one number two is that this year is the year of the um not only have they printed the last form of the hida but they also there's been three different versions of the travels of the that have come out this year one of the most remarkable things that you see about besides for that he was such a tremendous Goddess that he was traveling always for a large amount of his career and he still was able to be Beyond prolific and holding and learning when one's traveling it's very hard to be holding in any in anything and you see a lot of it was very hard for them but let's say that you couldn't even tell that he was traveling um that's an excuse that's number two number three is that I'm not comparing myself from The Godly aspect I'm just gonna clear myself in the excuse of the travel number three is this is um all uh um it's a theory it could be it's completely wrong some of the things are right but some but as the whole picture it could still be wrong um it's part of a much bigger picture that um that's definitely not going to be boring you with all the details right now therefore I'm not going to bring all the proofs for everything just to give some ideas of different things to connect them even though it's not um straight up learning that maybe parts of it you can't make but it's still some it's based on tyrannium um it's also relates because of the garage yard site we'll see some insight into the gross-based measures that was never um that was not noticed before um and just two other three other short things is one is that mits Hashem in a little more than a week is going to be a convention you shall I am from the base of that the fourth base of that which is a bunch of from um people talking about swarm and all different types of things one person one of the sessions of that convention is going to be actually devoted to gaining so this is actually a relates to something over there that they will not be saying but um so you'll get some of Heritage I don't know if it's going to be online so you get something beforehand that will be related not that I'm speaking there but it relates to some of the things that are going to be said there two other things this one is I'm not a professional speaker I only speak online it's just me and someone talking watching me on a camera so I apologize and the last thing is like this the based on all what I will try to say as I'll be able to say it as fast as possible um is that the it's we also show the significance of bibliography um dates when things will happen when swarm are printed reading even the hagdamas and the shower of a safer how important it is in order to understand the broader picture of what I hope to attempt to say tonight okay now the title that we gave it is Berlin some people know him as a wish I pick um we're friends on Margolis and the basement and there's going to be a dogish on the world of that the influence of rubyshire Berlin and I'm going to claim how it has to do with somehow to get Turbo Farmers almond and it gets to the base measures of the group okay so first is the first person to introduce Israel performance my friends are my goal is is born in 1760 dies in 1828 suddenly and he's one of the dailym AP interestingly enough is he was never a rough of any particular City he is a rich person who is asking in his City and but even still he was considered one of the daily Hadar of his kufa which is very uncommon means say there are many cases of people that were Rich that were famous that were learned but to be a godaddar in that period of time especially because he was in close contact already from a young age with an idea Berlin remember fall hamburger later on with Tom the Michigan State because I'm safe here and many others now because he was rich he was able to sit most of his time he was able to learn and write and he published many Farm in his lifetime and some of his farm came in afterwards and he's famous that his farm are a different genre you say it comes with different styles different types of writings he has truvis and he had a Locker's farm and all different types of things okay um today I want to focus on a safer of his that's less um it's it's well known but it's not really been focused on what the significance of the safer is and that is his purse that he wrote on the sikto rabassi now why did he write this Parish so he says that he was he he basically fell into depression after his oldest daughter died in 1809 she was very sick he wasn't able to learn he writes he wasn't able to learn halacha so he basically says that he went and wrote a parish on sukta and he Lamesa he only finished the parish in 1825 but he doesn't print it it's printed afterwards and the manuscript still exists today in Hip University now the question is okay so he wrote it and he says why he wrote it what's unique over here is that no one in that generation was really writing perushim on majors no one was really being Isaac in measures to write some perusian at least in galicio so um the so one of the people that are that um is very involved with with the world of Agatha um his name is kanano Mack So He suggests that it really has to do with there was in let's say in 1806 which is right before buffon's almond there was some perish under sukta which we don't know much about but it existed and the people from the basement but the problem is that that's good for vilna but reforms is far away in galicio how does it how do they connect and who um at all okay now when you look in the parish it's um zaraphrayim of his you you'll be you'll see that there's various interesting things in this Parish and that and that is like this it's not just that someone sometimes you have a safer and a goggle has tairua and he attaches it to a said safer um and a lot of times the claim is you know he just he looked for a safer that he could find and he put his own type his own let's say a darshan would sometimes take a Madras and put it there but he's not really concerned as much with the actual safer over here this safer the the major sector so Robert frames Alma goes he was completely concerned with the text to the Metro she went through the safer carefully closely reading it and he's very concerned with to understand the actual measures um and what that means is he's also concerned with the of the text um in order to do that he also uses uh incredible bikias and all of hazal you xiaomi mcgillus Tinus and um what's his name is that just came at the time in sector he uses all these madrasan to help understand this magic not only that he had a incredible that were around at that period of time he uses that also for the Sometimes He suggests that there's mistakes in the in the text of the of the magician he fixes them sometimes it's based on the other um that he finds in other places sometimes it's himself but basically is that if I'm not going to go into all the details to show all these things but this is um what you see in this Parish now one of the things you see in this Hebrew also is that he uses the safer we know as the safer which quotes numerous numerous times and for two reasons one is to explain the words of the madrish and two also to explain the of the sector and I will return to explain what what these two things would are shortly okay so basically here you have a person who's being Isaac in madrush agada intense is not really even though we know the Quran his base marriage are crazy and um and everything he is not necessarily as far as we know he didn't go to villanue or anything like that and he's doing this in Galicia and the question is how um how is there any way that we could figure out that maybe something happened that triggered him to be so executed with this style or something like that it could be he just did it's that not the question could be that there's no it's not really a question and he just did but based on what I saw I'm going to suggest the possibility and there's this false libraries he had the most extensive Library probably of anyone in the city or anywhere around it including rare books and manuscripts and um and truvis that were only published inspiredly places he imported it in and that's how the Sherry chuva was written it was written from his extensive Library so that even though he did so I'm not going into it he did does have a connection to vilna but has nothing to do with this and only starts a little later at this time in 1809 he doesn't have a strong connection with his own language yeah but there's no one else doing this so it wouldn't help he does have he does have a connection to big people in Krakow and everyone else I'm saying at 15 which is in the 1780s he's already has a connection with the Knight Buda so that's the pro he has connections with people anyway my suggestion is the files I'm looking through his shoes you see and this in order to get to this we have to we moved to Germany in bresler what happened is like this Robert frame Zalman going through his truvis we find that one of the people that he wrote a lot to was a yield name or bishari Berlin it's now the story shifts for a few minutes and that is his spouse we wish I pick is very famous today everyone heard of him but that's about what they heard we existed who is he what was he what was his significance very little it was once a lecture many years ago set over when when Berliner professor of Berliner got a award I think on based on the Berlin Foundation or the pick foundation so he gave a lecture a query collected all the history that was known about about um really shy later on Chicago Abramson he did not like that article but he also wrote some articles about Riverside Berlin um why we'll get too soon now Vishay Berlin who is he so he basically he seems to be born around 1725 he dies in 1799. he's wondering people don't realize um to learn most of his life and he was a prolific writer only the last few years has become the rubber breast level now he wrote on all areas of Tyra when I say that I mean and truvis he had with all different and and and more now he has interesting safer known about the when gumar says Kasha he talks about that and he has the Messiah also and more now eventually some of us are guys are published on the side of the gemara his brother was a printer they put it on the side and through this he was in the second times or he throws you out and sometimes and also he always he knew since he was he was he had a crazy bikiest and called and all different types of things as I said he wrote it intense even safer antisepter which it seems to be lost now the 2K cipherm writes that he that his Union that he wrote opened up at that time when it came out they everyone understood it was unbelievable how it opened up different areas of of of learning it made it easier because it made it more accessible yeah what's well known is that he had most some of his stuff was printed even as very recently um but there exists even in public libraries today various manuscripts of him that would be very worthwhile to be printed but but they haven't been published okay maiso it's well known is that he wrote a lot to the name behuda and these truvis it could be he was even the person who wrote the most um rights in one place another time is not someone that was famous for exaggerating and if you decided at that time you know it was done is probably already at least in the 1780s was probably for sure it was from so it's a pretty nice uh statement to have written about you but I knew that was Tom movick was the realizer fleckless in a hesper that he gave on rabi Shire Berlin and from here you also see again how they looked at him at that time to make everything accessible and everything and also he was also he was honor of all these types of things okay anyway this is rubbish now one of the things that Shire Berlin did that he was famous for was he wrote a parish um okay so so we take that for granted that there's a fever called shelters and then he wrote a parish on it but what's the story behind it so here we see the significance of reading introductions of a safer and in the introduction we find um a fascinating story that the kids are there was a guy he was a tutor for um kids in the in the in the city and he wasn't making enough money he was also harusoever beshire Berlin's um brother-in-law who was a printer so he wanted to make more money he asked them for an idea so the idea was which was a common idea in those days they'll reprint an old safer so they do he what's what's safe they do they decide the printer shoulders now when was the shelters first printed in 1548 now since 1548 till this is we're holding 1786 it's not printed that's a few hundred years had a famous library for that was known of having larva doesn't either have the shoulders and don't really have the shelters so this um person his name was Isaac he got from the rub of breslauge of two men who seems to have had a very nice Library he had an original um shelters and he gave it to him but he said you know I don't give you a good idea you just print the shortest no one cares about it it wasn't available for a few hundred years because there was no demand go over to abhishaya Berlin ask him maybe he'll write you how good you sounded safer so we'll help sales he goes and gives attempt three months later he gives him this work called Chila Shalom and that helped and you see that it's a race start as we'll see actually that that seems to have helped sales and it's printed in 1786. well my service continues to write her artist and it's only printed the last batch of ours are printed much later on anyway what does he do he uses the shelters which is an early which is a guy in a quirk and he used it for the the Tama badly the gear size that could help and and he also adds in a lot of interesting tire for it that relates to the focus on the shoulders wasn't a guy that just took his Tyra on National Music and he said oh I have a great opportunity to put it into the shelters over here no he's concerned with the shoulders but we'll get to that shortly and the native who ends up writing a Monumental work on the shelter says that the Parish of Riverside balloon mamish opened up the safer for for anyone before yeah now that is the next step the next step is but what does it have to do with reference on my goals the original questions the answer is that they as I said they had a chirus balance a close correspondence were able to tell from various letters that we have that we have of them and and we see um one of the things that happens is he tells them right away shortly after the Showplace comes out and set basically in 1787 was printed in 1786 and 1787 he says I got you Parish I have a few hours and he sends them some hearts now it seems that he might have been alluding that he doesn't have a copy um maybe you could send me a copy and it seems that Richard and he sends him a copy afterwards with ribiakova it might be that this is rebiakov Orlando the son of the name behuda who was a a very close friend the river finds on but I'm not 100 sure yet anyway they have letters back and forth many letters some are printed in the base of frame and other places and you see from here in these letters what's very interesting is an intense in-depth discussion of all different things called Terry cooler plays out over here but a lot of times it's about the Shire Berlin starts talking about not not only it starts with these horoson arrows but it gets into all different things and gets into his he starts telling about a safer quote have flushed everything foreign and he tells them different things and he quote some big pieces says them oh thank you so much just help me I was and they deal back and forth now it's very passable now we see also from elsewhere profanzan was very into the not only in his era frying but other places for other reasons some of them will get to shortly now could be that because of this here at this time these early letters or foreign so it could be this triggered the the his to make his interest even greater in the arrow and with the shortest but it seems also there's a concept called the Republic of letters that a lot of times certainly they didn't even meet but they they they used to talk and learning through letters so they had this um connection anyway the the what's the hashivas of the art of the Safar so a lot of people think the Earth is just a dictionary you'd see you know it has words you don't know you know uh it's early gesture let's say you stuck with a word and you just look it up but the answer is it's not true an intense um looking into the safer let's say by one of the great Experts of the safe articles was Professor shraga Abramson a great lutfish and he was an expert amongst many other things in the safer so he writes that if someone learns to say carefully you'll see it's not just the dictionary it's a it's like a sort of Encyclopedia basically not only when he's talking about the word he'll bring you the whole gear so because he wants he knows that that's also going to be useful and he adds a lot of things that sometimes you know he could have just said it with two words this word means this but he brings you the whole text and and what people have is a lot of times could help playing out to understand you have a new nusok in let's say a magic because he's saying the word means this like a means in this magician it brings you the whole line also he preserves a lot of sources so so to speak this will be one of the this is one of the earliest makairs that we have before the kairagens and stuff like that of of material doesn't say far right is also that's how they proved it because he was oh oh right it's right right right right right right right correct anyway right right right exactly that right so no they they hold her he really meant it it can't be he did if he did it 10 times it'll be one thing but he does it through throughout the safer so they hold that it must be that he knew he was conscious of what he was doing and this is what he meant anyway um okay so this is step two now what is that what but how is it now could I use this somehow to answer my question with the zero fry and the answer is like this I'm when I'm when you I said yeah one of the things that significant is looking at the shower of a safer so I was randomly looking at the shower of the first print of the shoulders with a very shy Berlin prince in 18 in 1786. and then and he and there's five things in the beginning of the of the safer where he says this is what I'm about to do in the safe one of them is he says I'm gonna um that needs to be changed or maybe we see a new Nursery based on these gear stars then he says is only very rarely I'm gonna look if it's a Rashid or the safer which anyway I said that which I was already had a massive Purge that he had he didn't print at the time but he had already under our ready to go um another thing is I'll deal with is stuff that he could be mefarish in the sugya based on the shelters now and you look at these four or five things this is the blue it's clear is we're friends on my goal this is filing this blueprint when he's doing his Parish Zara frying he's also concerned with to be mefarish to safer based on the battle you xiaomi Safra free image Russia he's also concerned about The Shining us and the text of it to look at it very carefully sometimes he will point out that there's a nunus from the text and he'll play around with it also he uses as I said rashidises to explain the words to say for ARA and also then he has his Pirates he puts in here which is similar to what he does so it could be consciously subconsciously after he got it before since anyway they were on the same wavelength and the same type of thing that that there was some type of influence of maybe shayar Berlin his Parish on the shelters with the zarifying okay but it's really much this the story is much much um deeper than this and that it's his fouls up till now um we're taking for granted is that everyone knew about going in that period of time we're talking the 1780s so everyone knew okay this guy Nick works and everything like that and and that couldn't be further from the truth no one at that time knows anything about God you know and and so much so there's literally nothing printed from at that period of time someone is is in 1780 and he decides he wants to go buy he wants to start building a library and he has all the regime now he wants to go back to Dynam he will not be able to find anything maybe he'll be able to get some rear book dealer at the time and tell him okay I'll give you a short test from we quoted that when the shoulders is printed first in the 1500s but that's it pretty much all right one second oh now what but what does exist so so first of all like this the um cheer who eventually he becomes the first big historian that starts writing the history of the guy named he says and he's writing this a little later he's writing this in the 1830s so basically if someone wanted to get something it's very hard now well there really is there is a few things there is a there's a safer called shade of a Troopers which is printed in 1575 but it's a very unclear how much it's really got you know looking at it people have pointed out that there's even stuff from the same I got in there so it's not clear how much is going is equal there's a early work called but I spent in 1516 and no one really knows about it or has it there is once you get a little later on into the time of abusive Berlin after Prince of this is the Shari sadek all of a sudden around that time there is the mishpate they were printed earlier but from 1602 and armors they're not available and no one has them no one's using them there is it's printed in 1548 but then it's not printed till 1811 so there's a few hundred years that maybe maybe as I said when they wanted to print the schultes the regressive tumor who's the revo breast out he happened to have a shelters in his library but I don't know how much he ever used it and and they didn't have it or use it so much what about to say for Arrow safaric also wasn't used until the 16th and the 1600s it was printed a few times but then it's not printed pretty much in the 1700s one time and then 1819 which is later than what we're talking about it's printed Again by Maisha Landell the grandson of November later on right that's later on um yeah but but before you even get some concerns the the early masculoma before them they also were very interested in it and they start writing about it and they start printing whatever they find but was definitely interested in that now so basically my claim is that one this poor guy that didn't have paranasa and then he ends up getting the shoulders printed was a trigger because for everything because all of a sudden now he's sharably right so be Indica parish and as I said rubber Farms on my goals here is about it but not only does it referring song goes here about it and other guiding works are coming out let's get now we have to get to vilnu vilna the die in a villain on the time of the Wunderground the author of The River hazov who dies in 1797. he wrote this incredible work called the river this is he brings tons of his and even some good some of the guy in him that he had which as I said was was come out nothing but it's usually through situ Timo of quotes from your shame but he brings the shelters which shelters is he using the shock this overshire Berlin and he even and he brings the Sheila Shalom Berlin another Greek the great Adam brings shulcus which Edition does he use in his he says so so we see that all of a sudden now starts and around this time all of a sudden not a lot of works but a few Works do come out and a few other gudalem are starting to be Isaac in going so the Sheila shalim was the first Hebrew that understood the significance that what lies in the shoulders the gearsalis how can help play out with the bavly and this opened up the world of going yeah the the academics that were oystick in the in the city of geinim so they write out and they map out the whole history they are not aware that all this was happening much where they say it starts from this is much earlier from them they they are not aware even some of them that are aware of some of the people but they're not aware of all this um that all this that was happening really about 50 years earlier okay let's say that now um but one one last which again goes further into the excuse for the to the to the base to tie to the base managers of the guy that's his fouls one of the great questions that's asked with relating to the vulner going is that when does his impact happen and how does this impact happen and what's his impact on his generation and the generation immediately afterwards um and how does it happen when you say how does it become so famous was he famous in his lifetime was he what was what was he if he was famous in his lifetime what exactly was he famous for who was the proper who was the mamshikh of him which people who are they and all these things and people have been icic with this for well over um from literally after he died until alien people are constantly coming up with different theories one of the things that people point out is if you're trying to pinpoint the um what came out that had an impact is the the world of um agada the madrasium and to learn it intensely is a generation after the Wilma going people such as the radau the Russia and men and many others of Landau who all these people wrote purush besides for what else they wrote um so there now they didn't see the vulner going so but they linked them there's a fellow who wrote a very interesting doctorate and then book called Gil Pearl where he links it that we see these people and they were in Vilma many of them and they were Isaac in midrasham and it's clearly that there was some type of influence on the film we're going from okay He suggests that where does this influence come from one of the people He suggests is the author of the famous work told us but he doesn't say how I I think he means this because he was a darshaner and they all heard him speak and everything and they quote him rashage quotes from a dial quote some other people quote him so he heard him give drushas and adversions usually into measures so maybe that triggered it more and then they themselves went ahead and wrote intense Persian on madrish okay but that could be I I don't know I I was not in contact with him no but he doesn't explain it but it seems that there's more to the story and that is a spouse a mom is not well known is that besides for writing this best-selling book called Talus Adam he wrote a parish on major shrabah that exists today it's printed I'm voracious and this Parish similar to rubber Margolis is Isaac in bringing much below to comparisons from a ton of usage of Safra to explain hard words and bringing different gear solids in the actual Majors this is what he does throughout the parish in these three volumes that we have and these three and the three halaka Muhammed that it was printed now okay it's in the measures it's a Biore it doesn't have a full name even but okay now favor amongst the many people that he knew well it's interesting is he knew rabishai Berlin personally well his son robsev was the darshan villain afterwards recently to have his drushas printed from manuscript which is an incredible has incredible information but the drush itself is excellent and also there's a lot of information about London kufa says that my father was okay and we have actually some things that he says over from him and elsewhere now there's a safer called nachos avas he says I saw the safer sheilaim of Berlin pick that was given to Matana from abhishai Berlin to ruble and I had and it says it said in the in the inscription so now as a side it happens to be the reframe's alma goes also was a great friend of rugby fesco fivo but we don't have to come on today I'm able to link him directly to be shy Berlin so just like rabi shayam um had an influence as I'm claiming on some level with calitzia before I'm Zaman who ends up having influence on all of Galicia um so too he has this ashba on Ruby classical Fievel and that is also how Robert who did have a connection who all end up writing position on on the um madrasia agada so it's some type of connection and it will link Germany Galicia and villain altogether now there is something that I'm omitting over here and it's on purpose because it's still completely unclear there was a tremendous tremendous person um who sadly the way it works is sometimes if someone has a famous father so even though they're very big they sort of get lost incredible but it's it's still I I have to be you have to be able to show that he actually had an influence let's say on these people um and that is still a work in progress but he was are you sick in madrasia Agatha he was around the time he was a big Talmer of his father but that's not for now anyway but that's the um in short ly yeah yeah but it's not only there but it's also the method I'm concerned about the method not the library the library they could be they had um yeah the interest is also interest is not enough he picked that one he picked that one that doesn't have to that that actually cast The Terror doesn't have to be exact they have to be able to explain the method he's doing where does it come from no one's writing there's no one beforehand writing such a parish like that only maybe maybe you could say um people in vilna but it's very interesting and the side of the village he very often brings them right not outskirts with Rashi on a circle right he says it's also because he wants you to know the perishable medium of the thing he's very concerned both in his the safer which today we have which is called it's an intense Parish on Arrow it's concerned with rash entices how they learn the words and and dealing with it it's not just dictionary exactly it's extremely important for him and yeah 100 writing on measures and I make materials all the same no no it's two things but they're using the same method in both that's what's interesting that they're using that is no it's simple very simple it's it's an excellent way of marketing to sell a manager to sell the measures much later on it's not it's these years we're talking the early 1800s that's the 1870s you know the The Madras rather I'm talking about but it was an amazing work for that period of time because they went and tracked down everything we say there was still there were masses learning Majors but you know and people were learning Majors now makes it that you can learn magic amazing with x amount of pollution foreign [Music] but it's not necessarily an evil thing it's more convenience they want you to build the one to have two volumes of everything he stuck some things in man it could be that but the main goal was not it was money right they don't like him at all basically the stipler doesn't like him at all and his Malu in his um because of what he wrote in the maluma but it's interesting is that if you read an account of him in a account you would think he was a regular he was actually a regular from Orthodox Jew he and one of the things that he was lost is he wrote a book on the hayadam for example he was from Sherman he might have had interesting cheetahs but if you read an entry about him by someone that knew him personally from that time that was only printed a few years ago you wouldn't be again it doesn't mean that all the problems inside you are not problems they probably are but that's what's interesting right biography they sound like regular from people then you have to start going through this stuff and all of a sudden you start seeing interesting things which which is most well not at all in the 50s so that's when the start of it is just a continuation no there's nothing to do it has nothing to do with it we see it's impossible to read is you look at most people today when you look at it no one's looking at a regularly issue of People if they pull it out it's only caused the native it's a convenient place right right people putting many law Yeshiva libraries have in the hummus section on the civil rights on a parish on the shelters was that in order to write a pairs on the shelter yes yes or is it please get his name out no no nothing to do that no the native is a huge the native is it's incredible imagine if I told you the middle of this man finds out that there's a manuscript in Russia of a reason on mustafa's world bastard he's giving share about bastard and you hear he's getting on a plane and he's going to get he wants to see that manuscript you tell me I'm crazy but that's what the native did with the showstas really yeah he found out that there is a manuscript of the shelters he got on the train it took him I can't I try to ask someone that would know but he didn't want to do the calculations there's a way to calculate exactly how long it took him but it took him a lot longer than getting on a plane and going he does the guy told me exactly how to figure it out but it took him easily a week to get there to see it and he did to go see the shoulders now anyone knows anything he didn't waste a second of his time that's what he writes um he signs every tube of his that he's so I was a avoider so I'm saying it was also so rude say there but he took off time I'm saying to go travel and everything he could have said um he he had people in all different places you're gonna say you know send me uh yeah whatever a draft whatever he didn't he went to go see so and the two is completely out of the box when it comes to this and the shelters was beyond that that was he's the whole time right but it doesn't come out right that's a different one right right correct with me oh no Captain two bags in the car once we're here all right I spoke about it we spoke to that right right right right I I the reason okay I have the first time I spoke to Liaison is because I was I was I I saw a smart device bring a totally saw them but I don't know too much about the hospital and he has a it was a it was a stuffy news had to do with uh and he says a very sharper lotion something right and he said very let me try and I have some things up over here so say something on one of these she really gave about and sounds like he's very into it so what did you want to tell tell me what you you I don't remember I remember the whole uh you said you did a lot of research right right right I don't remember there's no way in the world I'm keeping spending no I am too long the question what is [Music] so so at this point I I still can't say um um with confidence one way or the other well I could say is that definitely definitely he has to do with her reference on my goals or her friends on my goals quotes the question that he asked from him more than once and it's clear that he had influence on him but the claim is for sure before for example did not have a base Madras with a Yeshiva and stuff like that and tell me them he maybe had three or four times everything is very upsetting right yeah because but right because but Rush Lima cooker was good with the Martz and then he gets upset at him at a certain one time so you can't always have to be able to it's that posture exactly what's going on we say a certain point in time he would say he was the greatest guy imagine a 16 year old rights to uh this type of shylist no way right that that's a different question I'm not going into because right I'm not talking about it I'm talking that's a whole different Focus right now for this year no I'm talking about friends I'm going to perish or something yeah so what he's writing on if they knew the if they knew what the what the work exactly was that all these things that this is it took years it took them years till they knew exactly better off what it is it's a short early what early early before it means before yeah but after that okay some of Russia must be very late they have this Russian they called on the dressers McGillis and right yeah yeah he's awesome yeah for sure I mentioned that because he brings a lot of money he also Rings like going with a lottery shame a a credible amount for that period of time to do it and it's usually he must he also it's clear he 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