Gittin Throughout The Ages

[Music] foreign [Music] welcome back Rabbi Dr Eleazar brat it's a pleasure to be with you again and today we're back to our original idea previewing safarim Anonymous could be a little different than other masectus this episode we're going to focus on the shinim and like we've done in the past but we hope to get to other episodes which will focus on the halakas of getting how I get is written there are many is far and written on that and hopefully perhaps we'll get to another couple episodes on what we call pulmerson controversies known controversies unknown controversies on getting that have transpired throughout the generations um we have recorded a wonderful episode I hope you've enjoyed it already please comment on this episode other episodes comments suggestions feedback to myself ou.org the rabbi brought eliezerbroth gmail.com and I would like to say that this episode has been generously sponsored by the show Greenwald daf Series this staff Series this staff Yami sheer is unique that it quickly goes through the daf but not just reading and saying the translation of the words really speaking out anything that comes up as a question on the deaf in a quick very thorough way if there's a obvious question that types of this covers he discusses that as well very clear very concise usually done in under a half an hour please check that out it's available on oldaf it is also available in other places available on podcast if you haven't checked that out please check it out it's a unique sheer something different something different than the other shoe room that we have on Old off and that's the point of all that to provide shirim that each one provides something a little bit different than the other so without further Ado Rabbi broth how are you today excellent okay so as I mentioned in my brief introduction perhaps I spoke too long already people want to hear you I don't want to hear me ploppel today's episode is about mastectus get in and we shine him other topics will leave for another time and we're always available any time we have a someone who's sponsoring we really really appreciate it this provides an opportunity for everybody to get his work out there he has so much in his brain that he needs to share so this allows us to share it for the world to hear so what are we talking about today what specifically would you like to start off with so before before we get to how we do normally I'm just going to mention a story because it's just it's a very nice story to begin with basically um in high school one of I was introduced by hearing different schmoozen from the Russia of image Epstein is to quote author in a book about the godo miminsk the book was written by eidra mayor Halpern he wrote a book about the Minsky who's known as the minskurgado on the Greek letter who died in the early 1890s now this book The hiddish of this book where mayor Halpern was he knew the minskurgado personally very well how did he know him he was the malamide he was the higher tutor of the menstrual's children and he learned with them and some of them actually came from and you can see from this book he was a very smart person he was a very big he understood a lot about learning in general and he had incredible incredible conversations about different type of topics with the Minsky godlas he spent a lot of time with him and he recorded them in an unbelievable lotion he had a tremendous command of the Hebrew language so revzel used to always quote this book different times in different schmoozen and I read it numerous times every time I read it even to look up two pages I end up spending time looking 20 Pages it's incredible amount of different information in the in this book so one of the things that he mentions is when he first got the job so the Minsky Godzilla has him um he's talking to him he learns that he learns with the kids afterwards and basically the first week was made up that every month of Shabbos I believe they're gonna learn he's gonna he's gonna the kids are going to be tested by the men's gregado first week they they come in Mr girl starts asking them questions it was about they had no idea what's going on the second week no idea the third week finally they knew what's going on so since God will ask them what happened what's going on all of a sudden how did they start knowing it so he said very simple I I my basically he earlier he says also that his hashivas of being a melamine is he was able to get into the heads of a child what a child needs to know when he's learning so you start learning you're jumping right into it but you don't know what again is you don't know the sukum you don't know all the different things so what I do is first I teach the kids I first we open up the hummus we learn what I get is then what's what is the words get I show them how it works what's a schlier I explained to them all different concepts to give them the background and then afterwards they build this up we spend the first week or two doing this and then afterwards everything starts making much more sense and that's why they succeeded afterwards because the first two three weeks is see you shortly but it's a Yeshiva masakta that's learned in many many in yeshivas many people spend time learning it and it's a massage that one could it's easier than some others and Justice could I to know keep in mind the muscle you open up let's say you open up your article you're my sister they have these pieces of information you spend 10 15 minutes before and you're ready it's a different world okay excellent um as you mentioned I know here where I live in Lakewood there are some a3as they'll learn getting as one of the Limu so it's learned even at a young age um and what you just mentioned about getting familiar with the succulent get I believe I saw advertising you probably could check this out somebody's selling some kind of countries or even uh a get how a get look how it looks how get is written with some of the basic um explanations of why this is here and you know what goes into the background of the gets you familiar with the with the language of the get as you proceed in the message okay excellent so what do you want to begin you want to talk about the gamara the page of the gamara itself so first I'm not going to talk so much about the pages anymore just we always mentioned for two minutes just to get this out of the way is the news so we have spoken about at length already in their in the series or baruchi's farm from his project of collecting the manuscripts of the sectors to have with his collection of the various manuscripts including manuscript okay fast forward to 1926 University while working on his a book on the on on his doctors getting under his teacher at the time I've run Weiss so he um he's told and he does he puts out based on not only the Xavier mention the existing manuscripts that he was able to get a hold of and he puts out what we've called the collection on each page of gamara on the other side is the world of differences and he tries to have explanations about this this was a 19 1966. now at that time still yes just as an anecdotal is an Yeshiva University at that time he still had such a thing called academic talmud whatever that even means um pretty much after that at some point in time it stopped um and there does there is no real academic talmud for whether it's good or bad in YouTube University but it used to exist a long time ago now fast forward um let's say someone doesn't have access to this so Macomb time on Israeli are from through encyclopedia tamudis different parts of this big macron they have put out on the sectors getting through all the different manuscripts a few volumes it could be found on if you have HR ones stuff like that now just to mention there are academic works on Parts kitten one is on the parag dollar the massive work from manacha megarish is a massive work from Professor Sharma Friedman and just to mention on the schneid is a work from the Safari family but this is just to throw it out there um nothing more okay the kids are um and one last point is like this it's clear that and as we're going to see today was learned everywhere very simple it was it was very very relevant you look even as we're going to see soon this guy name this is it was in the power of the Yeshiva cycle in all different Cycles it was clear on Marshall we have the native rights in murami Saudia because they learned but it says on top not always does it say the dates when the shiram were but not in 1868 these are the on musakasguiten earlier in 1754 we have a safer Divina from Dove bear balakovar we spoke about him briefly in the episode which um about he also talks about how he learned in Yeshiva and we know from as we'll see today many many other sources that they learned in the sector okay that this is just the introduction now we what our meaning has become is basically we go from the guardian onwards so guidance very fast is we have our Hashem also a safety that we spoke a little bit more about in theorem oitzerganim from bam Levine a Talman movie of cook tremendous trans he collects tons of material from Enoch literature from all the different manuscripts which he gave a little bit about that in some of the different episodes and it's in a value in Collective argument it's the tenth volume that he put out on the famous actions has a very nice amount of material he also has a lot of materials from that he collected of if you open up your vilna you might have been used in summer Sacramento distance we're going to see trans villain didn't have Robin but they have traces rid that they print different manuscript he has Robin okay and if one wants to see um just some samples of the significance of this guy material so I've quoted the past from Sony Ace of seven and aside from the Swarm he has a review on this masecta then we can move on is in recent years this has been an explosion of more and more material of gynec literature they found the long-lost work of he wrote a massive work that was originally it seems to be 55 procam in 2000 and what year is it 2019 I believe it is no sorry 2009 basically you who the Stanford publishes earlier was his um doctor but he publishes it's called going on getting it's called Safar Garrison and he has a whole uh like all these types of work too the significance of and the different parts of the work that he was able to locate in the kyrg Niza he died in 10 13 this is a very early work that we did not have until it was published a few years back and he does not have all 55 Kraken but he has um something um 13 whole program and parts of about 20 ProCom so something like a third of the work he has something like that and that's a very very very recent addition to our library okay fine this is going and now we can move on to the reshining so we shine him is very very easy um we have our famous rishai name the ramban so ramban as we've mentioned in many different episodes 1762 only parts of the is published when does the rambanon gift and get publisher manuscript we discussed this a little bit more the hashiva's behind this from this is our Meltzer in 1928. the mice have fast forward with Maisha herschler and his Mahone they had more manuscripts of the ramban and today you go into your shoe library or your own Library whatever you'll see you'll have these different editions of works of the ramban based on the manuscripts next is the rajma rajba is actually published in 1523 again in 1715 again in 1751 a few other times but today in the standard cook Edition they had manuscripts once again here we get to a little more interesting is the ritva when you open up urethra on um git and you'll see that there's two perusian one part is it they call it the midfund the second part the color of crestress now like everything else there's a um there's always discussion is it really direct first is it really Revenue what's going on over here just to sum it up and very very briefly is as follows the the there's an excellent Marvel from the Meister of cook Edition about it it seems there were aquarium that had manuscripts and they called this work viritva it's most likely not the Ritzville how they know that iron Shaman these hagdamas they have different methods how they're able to do it now one of the things is they notice that it brings a lot of the Rama Rama is earlier than these even earlier than the ramban he's born in 1170 dies about 1244. we'll get to more in a second now so this work that's that Meister cook calls is really most likely we don't we don't it's some type of cheating better somewhere around that period of time time of the RIT for maybe a little before and what it does is we notice it has a lot of Rama okay keep that in mind it also has so we're not sure um at one point the Meister hook Edition says through different analysis that it might be three different depending on the different it's different people okay in other sectors of of Meister of cook where other not every masek was done by the same person so you'll have a different person who'll say oh what you you have a proof of Amazon's gift then it might not be anyway they discuss this from all different things what about Robina Crest gross so rate of Crash Course interestingly enough was printed on the name of the under the name of the ritual ready in 1758 but now we based on more information we know more about the surveillance he's also from the banda of the ritva same base madrish we have other masectus of his we mentioned him suvis and there's some others so they're more convinced that maybe this ritva this part is really right in Crispus but even that is not 100 okay now why is this relevant I mentioned to the name um the the Rama he's more famous than such a massage but interestingly enough the original name of the scribers called protiprotem okay now soak from Rabbi avram rally in 1985 then through 1989 put out some additions of what he calls the Rama on the Macer then in 2001 he updated it with more based on more discoveries and basically is they have discovered pieces of the Rama on this masakta and through a careful analysis he's convinced that What's called the ritva is really the Rama okay and he has more than the moisture cook Edition so anyway you can have your cooker Edition even though it's calling it but you need to buy the awful condition because they found more stuff okay with that okay the Rama is a incredible incredible important region we know from the success that we do have of his in order of RAM shashan and his beautiful introduction has a lot about this the cloud is a book from about him from Bernard Septimus excellent book just very hard to get these days published by Harvard and we have tashma Israel tashman his essay is also a very important essay where he also goes with he's he does agree with shashan about this okay we already mentioned Charles Wilner puts on the taste this rid 1955 For the First Time The Miri is published on this masecta okay um and the tysis rush is published now just one other point with the ritva people had in a manuscript who he spoke about as a guide him he uses it he had them Eerie because the person who was working in the mirror was kind enough to give him material so he's using it already new slime earlier on and Justin was saying one last reason literally came out about a year ago actually from a Macon they're based in beijemesh um they call themselves and they publish the work they call it perishable what is it it's on the river sectors get them very common a lot of works in the time of the rambam were written more on the Riff and this is printed from manuscript we don't know who he is they believe he's around the time the ram them right after so for those who like to figure out the correct pronunciation I thought we used to pronounce the survey no crash cache are we talking about the same the same one correct so we'll have to have those exactly Hebrew literature experts let us know exactly how to pronounce it right correct okay now so at Khan the story with the reshaiden name yes there's some others um here and there but that's the basic story with Russian Now we move on to Croydon so one of the early acquaint that we have tremendous so what's known is the Marshall you have in the back of gamara as you have the martial for some reason it's on the top of the page in many editions this is the maram and then there's much more abbreviated there's really more material in the first editions of the muslima which are very rare but thanks to Hebrew books I said mother no longer rare anyway these are the hagois that they took from the side of the gemara that he wrote down what gemara did he use which the edition of the Bromberg Edition this is dealt with in a doctorate from yitzhakranan um parts of this doctor was published in a recent work visarius it was up to it was an article that this ranan wrote in Ali safer where he discusses the significance of knowing the differences with the Marshall what he was using what he's correcting now what happens is once the Marshall was God does this so a lot of printers do you the favor and they make they added actions into the text already which could cause problems when you're trying to understand him and everything and this is a discussion now for now anyway um but this when is this first time the martial is published literally a few years after he's nifter in the 1580s he's Nifty in the 1570s okay now but we'll we will return to the Marshall momentarily here now another Point relating to the martial is he has a talmud and this talmud wrote a Hebrew called mgdal David we don't know much about him his son we also know published a few different things his son I think publishes this work also and he publishes a work in 1597 called migdal David this is an incredible Heber and it seems no new about it 1597 and onwards except the yidd with lighter which we'll get to this professor Spiegel points out already we're going to get there later shortly and Spiegel who deals with um the McDonough because the middle of it as a talmuda martial is also very careful to be madai in the text of the gemara to see if his mistakes that crept in but besides for that this migdal David is um many different things now 1597 okay fast forward to to 1990. it's publishes it um he also publishes the first this is and for those that don't know this is before rights before he book so at the time it was a major and you still could probably even buy in some swarm stores this edition of the migdal David unknown say virtually unknown safer talmud of the Marshall with Incredible materials and no one had it throughout the generations pretty much except it's possible in the Survivor anyway um this is with the Marsha moving onwards we always mentioned different receptors the players sure play shoe is published in 1739 1768 we have the earlier the famous Ali rabba who dies in 1712 we know more from the world of Allah he has a small Hebron of humans 1769 we have a YouTube Rappaport wrote rights a safer called rashmits normally rashmitz is referring to either a talmud of the um is referring to a swardi hashva parish late a late region okay fast forward a little further we have an 1813 then again 1820 the nasivas writes the Taurus gift in which in the Yeshiva World that that remains a murder like a classic sign Lambda sign everything else we've already devoted an episode although we have not yet released it we hope to soon of the nasivism um and that is a very unique special female his contemporary older contemporary which also deals with which we also mentioned at one point or another this is famous it's published by his famous Moscow son-in-law the sheer shlima Rapaport anyway fine we have another acronym this period of time it's called tiv get them from her of Heller um he's a around the same age as them okay then of course we have Rebecca Vega and the Sam Cipher no these are the known go-to aquarium in many of them is nothing to of course you have the Israeli edition of the of the Rebecca Vega endless materials as I like to always say two good Island that are constantly writing even from the quarum isifer as a matter of fact I'm sorry for just now in an auction that just that just was made is about to go live in a few weeks from they have some new material never published before somewhere of a talmuda looks I'm sorry for quoting a whole letter looks I'm sorry first obviously this item is going to fetch who knows how much money um that's a night okay fine now another period I did not know about the interesting way I found out about it was through an episode that I recorded we recorded an episode and we this we did release about article there so I did not know the time barclayner had a brother remayer I believe his name was so he wrote it was published a manuscript uh 30 40 years ago so fellow romapi chemish he he plans on he's working on republishing it's going to be at we're recording the episode about getting a little before I it's being published by Mahone and I spoke to the Mahone a few days ago it's gonna be out on time they and they have new materials from the Theo Naman that we spoke about in the episode where he has other materials of this brother who was a tremendous in that period of time in Germany okay so this is just so there's already you're seeing obviously that there's a lot of fast forward someone relating to the Sam Cipher um and remarkable not he's not a talmud but someone who knew them it seems the caduceus Israel his earliest his early reborn was published in 1788 as a schemas including so his second volume published by his children which has um this is this has a scammers from someifer and remark kubernet okay fast forward we just mentioned some Cipher so now here we'll discuss uh we'll get a little more information first we'll start with the sav Cipher so first I'm looking into the stuff Cipher has published on a few different sectors when you look in one of those factors that we have like stuff so if there's no sectors get them I'm reading the hakadama because I I remember a idea about something to relating to this and basically it sounds like he gave sheer on it starting from it says my father gave sheer on the sectors starting from tough race test Zion until toughration of babes that means there's a period of almost four years five years then he then it talks about another time he started giving it again so with kids are they're learning this masecta for a crazy long time imagine seeing Yeshiva for that many years learning the Messiah now yes we're going to see another person also spent Five Years Learning it there's a lot to do with masaka's gifted especially if you're learning but what's going on over here so I remembered elsewhere that again turning to my favorite one of my favorite people were showing me Ace of seven there's a review about the sav Cipher on the circus cooling where there's a similar type of thing they must have the school and they spent endless amount of time so lumai Sam safer says he heard from Abraham Cipher which we also spoke about in the episodes with willing to the Miri that he spoke who's from the mushbacha of the ciphers he says like this that um when he when he came in to learn the sav Cipher came into Yeshiva and they were learning that relates what does cipher start doing they start learning all different suggests relating to mcfoy's and ganchas and this was the one of the nakudas with example was he could end and he ended up this is what the Akiva savior says he ended up spending three months learning in yanama mcflies this is all the learning yitin so that's the answer how come they're spending five years it's not that they only were they it's not like they were this is today these famous Yeshiva today back in my day 20 years ago um they learned one whole Winter's my so this is not that even though it's five years but anyway this gives you an idea this is where was Evan brings down but we know more also some other interesting things about the basement itself so if it could be found in avram fuchs's work on the yeshivas of Hungary okay fine um now continuing with the Sam Cipher is is one of the most incredible swarmsguiten is um but it's only on the first peric it's from it's called the Palestine the Palestine he's in 1821 he's born he dies in 1886. he publishes the Palestine in 1854. now they say the Yeshiva World is of lore folklore or and from all different I've heard from all different ways I didn't bother to write them all down at one point to track it but they say he's the Hungarian that repayam even looked at his Torah you say obviously those that know the Leticia World wouldn't be caught dead looking at Hungarian tire but this this on his table I always joke they that one day I plan on writing an article about all this farm that were on Heinz table must have been a very big table but anyway that's a joke that I've said I think in the past anyway here I would like to to show to add to something I said when we began the series of hankevsky I said as an example was a mamish a big talmud by the Sam Cipher and people someone wrote into me more than one person maybe that I'm wrong it doesn't work out the years it's not true he went to the Yeshiva at the age of 11 and anyone who understands the chuva safer it's not it's not so strange he was there until somebody learned by him for seven years if the Michael heimler began for seven years trust me he got a laughing with some safer he writes himself in his Palace one of the people is giving our cars 5 he listed one of those he says the first one is so I was correct in what I was saying then now what's more interesting oh not more interesting another last point is he's a Talman of the Shari Taira who's the son of Revelation so now who's the author of The Shamara now some people like to think he's this is Hungarian Roots it turns out really it's more literature Roots this is a different discussion and that might explain how this Hungarian could have ties with literature learning which is Akash that many have asked but we're not going to deal with it right now just to mention this rebe the Shari Torah so we quoted already the Muslim catalog and we are not at this point I'm doing this is like this catalogs a lot of times people look at catalogs for different reasons I look at catalogs I don't have money to buy um rare books and stuff like that but you learn a lot of information on the catalog so here we have being it's going to go on auction in a week or two that the they have the safer Shari Torah the review of the machayem with 50 hagois I believe they were not published of the never published before it's also going to probably go for a very nice amount of money in the northern auction okay anyway fast forward um 1867 is published this is another younger talmud of some safer if anybody wants to buy you a present I'm sure you're you'll be glad to accept you know maybe make a list of the things in the northern catalog that may interest you oh yeah sure anyone that buys any artifact you'll dedicate episode just towards that artifact and give this customers of the artifact yeah exactly anyway um okay now um so that's so because I've been accused in the past of never really speaking out about Hungarian so here is already I've been we're gonna do a drop more with the with um hungarians in a moment okay one last person to talk about is is the Terrace Yankovic I believe that's how he something like that is how they say his name okay so this is a yid he's born 1815 dies in 1878. so if yamavi becomes the ravavarsha this is Professor Stamford has a whole bigger recursor article a very nice article which is available in PDF if you ask for it I'll send it to you where he deals with um the whole story of him why he took so long for him to come to Robin varsha and everything now varsha is not a small little city it's a it's a real big city a lot happening there anyway he was living there for a long time and his first so first his Rabbi muvok is who are you famous famous who also wrote a massive work on get them which is Riley since values in 1833. his first work is published in 1869 on Gittin so to speak yeah shares a yard site with Shayla karisti or I believe and last week when they were celebrating so the people who are violated since who are Machias and no you could tell us what is Savoy is about printing's father make sure to let everybody know about this what what do you write about just tell the audience what he wrote about his father um it's terrible right now what you just did because now people are going to accuse me of becoming Hungarian and I it's not possibly not right anyway but the point is Revolution was a guy in Islam and he wrote his prolific writer and he said some type of thing in Sava that it's going to be murdered disclosure if you help publish his farm and this is broke down in very reliable places even this type of talks about it in Arkansas and there's other sources about this but he wrote he was prolific every once in a while I remember when I was learning in Lakewood Marshall someone would come let's say whatever musakas and drop off a bunch on that then people always printing it you go to use bookshops in America all over you could get for a dollar all different sparmovies but but to go so far there have been there's been a fancy Mahone that went ahead and they redid all his stuff but they don't sell it so I don't know what was the point of that they published it discusses to get it out there but okay they do give I think they did give it to cuddles and stuff like that okay anyway returning back to as far as Yankovic now the the talmudum of his who published kitten okay they write um when they're talking about it that he spent Five Years Learning them um in 1858 when they publish it and this also there was a it seems there was some type of work a small work published about him um Stamford who still has not been able to solve who the author is but at one point or another this is published in the different swarm of the tracyanka if you wrote also on on Hulen and some other things and it's called sastolos doesn't even say that it came from where it came from but it was published as a small little booklet and but in none of the places do we know it is anyway the point is that this goggle he learned he learned to reshaiden him he was very into amka swarovs all different types of things in this um he was crazy in Turkey Vega he was very close to the rookie Vega at one point they had tremendous catcher talking to each other and learning and the kids who is a guy he was a guy in Islam um he also rather interesting they write he worked he was a businessman he had a Yeshiva he started giving sheer at a young age of 16. well um he's already giving sheer okay in his introduction um of to the safer he talks about how one has to learn uh yeah it's a fascinating introduction could die I'm not doing a justice but in the he does mention that he works um and that's one interesting thing and he says sometimes I go against but that's the point of learning if you learn the sugya and you learn the and you learn properly that's what was given to us tiger was given for if you're learning API Ms it's to come up with your masculos anyway incredible it's a it's not a long agama but it's worth to go through and see what is going how he talks about this happen Okay one last Akron to talk about before um World War II is revoking Vulcan managed right before World of two Publishers the base iron um and recently a book came out all about him okay now that came out um now just to conclude with a few different ideas it's like this in 1959 on getting comes out more recently first in 1999 and then more updated in 2021 where Mordechai Emanuel Prince of work Binion schleima from manuscript who is this this is who was remnassen I don't want to say his name wrong but he wrote a tremendous he was a dying in the Frankfurt bezden without flaw um Dr David kamonesky published materials of his involved in the best and some letters of his a tremendous at that time he did write works right at the young age already um that he did publish on Musa which has come us from the um and today you could get the book on Amazon actually print on demand this is the Binion schleinman another work that just came in from Recently is from he's born in 1810 dies in 1890. he also seems to be a Talman of shamrocker who we mentioned with the machines he's a RAV Marshall of different cities including Kashif some of his farm were published in his lifetime they have a scam Islam Marshall of leading them such as the division he left behind various including the kids are this work was miraculously this same from the Holocaust and the inical the person who saved it the Sun or the inical um I think the son of the person who saved it the great great grandson of this a fellow Rabbi Aaron Friedman funded this work to come out with a beautiful abdoma about his family and about the scada published it last year a massive work on the masato and one could get it and probably in most Farm Stores okay now just a minute saying with one last keyboard this is a tremendous tremendous eboard under the sector every time I use it it's Alicia said that's even not learning kitten and that is mitoy Russian shall we showing him from devil lighter lighter he's born in 1891 dies in 1974. it was a guy in Islam a new Incredible amounts of of Tyra he adding one of the things he's legendary about is he had a tremendous library with with unbelievable Manchester Farm he's a robin Pittsburgh eventually um he's from galitzi ends up in Pittsburgh he dies in 1974 I mentioned he had manuscripts of tremendous hashiva works and these are arrows on Saturday interestingly enough it seems his first work that he wrote before the age of bar mitzvah was AMU but it was not published but these notes of his is getting a very nice amount of material over 100 Pages has been published a few times by Mahon shalim is I think the most recent editions called me taras and shall we shining one could get unbelievable amounts of information stealing for sure him impressed people without them knowing even though that they won't because even some of this formula is using cannot be found incredible work that's the last um Akron now just to end off with two more points and that's it number one is so it shouldn't be accused is learned in all the yeshivas every Russia Shiva has this credushum of them just to mention was available in Hebrew books as I say for called tairus rashishivas where someone was Malachi tons and tons of tigers of Russia so let's say you don't have time to learn whichever Russia Shiva uh all the different Farms that are coming out and they're still coming out as we speak on this masecta you could download on Hebrew books you don't have to have um it's a hakma and you have a massive work hundreds of pages on them okay now we already said an introduction that we're going to talk about other aspects of this just to conclude there's a work called just to conclude just a drop of historical stuff this endless different controversies that relate Marshall in America what happened tons of Shadows and kitten from when Jews came to Americans and etc etc so there's a work a recent work from Akiva Sternberg called and in here one can find a nice amount of material to spice after the um when you learn the the kitten make it relevant sometimes with historical and stuff like that he talks about a lot of this stuff and just two other macarus to for now is one is is a rather a Firth which a book recently came out everything was last year from David Kahana Spiro he was known as the further rough so this he this book was printed by Dr Rosenfeld he was like to be very close his family is very close with this RAV one of the things this Rob was very famous for being an expert in Gibson especially after World War II um and there's a nice amount of material one whole massive chapter about with gibden and just to conclude just published a few months ago achievous called chuvis who's known as the father of agunas also this chuvra safer he's also very involved after the war with different Indiana with kitten and aguna type in Silas also a wealth of information that was not available until just recently so that but we will get much more into these type of topics um in the near future okay thank you very very much a lot of fascinating for him some interesting for him to track down that perhaps mean that I have in your library and we're really looking forward to the other episode nobody would like to be in touch again to ask for any sources PDFs email eliezerbot gmail.com once again we appreciate the sponsor in honor of Rabbi Shaw green Walls the style we mentioned is quick very very thorough very complete covers basically all the rashes and also and also the tices that are relevant to the chat in the gemara and we hope to have other episodes available if you'd like to sponsor the tremendous work of Rabbi brat please let us know yes I also one last thing I forgot this is very very important for me is like this instead we spoke about the martial one last up um thing to add to this whole thing is there's a yamchaimer on this moserto but what's interesting is that it's published when in 1761 which is almost 200 years after his Nifty as we said he's nifter in 1573 so it takes so many years for it to come out which is which is an interesting discussion but not for now but I can't go without mentioning the Marshall was on the we spoke a little bit about him but there is a tremendous important river of his available today called the amso I felt I missed from my notes I where to put it in okay thank you very much for adding that the Palace of Hungary we could get all the feedback we mentioned the Hungarian some of the hungarians farm and uh Hashem we got it all in so thank you very much and let's be in touch soon foreign [Music]