Derech Emunah: Using New Manuscripts of Rishonim Part 3 | Rav Chaim's Seforim Explored

foreign [Music] as we continue strong moving forward season two of the Spider-Man we've been focusing on new manuscripts every shining him how different could dailym have gone about using them throughout the generations we've spoken about the khazanish we've spoken about versus Zama Meltzer on their own van spoken about a lot of fascinating material we ended off last time discussing the Sam Cipher and the ramban and we're going to pick up from over here but before we start let me just mention that this season has been dedicated in memory of benign have an Aliyah and if there are requests for other episodes on other topics please reach out to myself or Rabbi Dr liezer brat any questions any comments requests on material feel free to reach out as well okay so why don't you pick up from where you left off maybe just recap a little bit and and we'll uh for John okay so basically the first two episodes of the Season we've been dealing with is is something that we see very strongly in kanyevsky in his farm how he's using everything available that he could get his hands on so to speak every reason nourish item and he's using them for his work he's using in darjamuna he's using it in his for example curious Melech and many and his others farm and the question was is that if the heinekenievsky is so um looks at himself as the way I built up in season one as one of the tamidium main tal medium of the khazanish and he goes so much with razanish it's interesting that what became known as a famous sheet of the Khazana which we will discuss at Great length um one of the future episodes is that the kazanesh is not into using new china such as Robin Canal there's some quotes and there's many other quotes and we'll see the story with that so how is it that that does such a thing so we showed that one of this foreign that had in big impact in a lot of different ways which we've mentioned the previous season and this season also is the mishna Brewer the mission Brewer was very into using this farm that was just printed is he constantly writes and it was for manuscript we even mentioned him having a manuscript of the Miri and in general the mishnaburra is was very proud he meant he stresses this how he learned all the rashadam and he has a lot of and this is where I said got it from there so in the first two episodes of this season we gave different examples we discussed about the our zarua we discussed the Miri we discussed rabbin hanano um we also discussed the Safar yashar of Rubino Tam that these were all works though printed somewhere in the 1800s and onwards and then we concluded last week an episode in the episode we started talking about we spoke about the native and the schultes which brought us to the 1860s and then we got back to the 1920s When revises Alan Meltzer Prince the ramban now ramban had been printed before but some of them sectors that he printed were never printed before and we we spoke about how this is Al Meltzer um shows that he that if people would have had the ramban it would have changed different possibly would have changed their opinions in certain situations we use book better famous and in in this topic we had a sharp remark about to grow because basically the gra wanted to follow in Hillcrest Christian which how you do to say there of laning so because I'm sorry for basically said the grok directly changes insecticipher okay now Rebecca's refers you know that both the gra and the some safer appears to not have had the ramban so the question is what about some safer let's discuss for just two three minutes what's the story did some what was the first attitude to all this the Newbie shine being printed in in his in his lifetime so last week we quoted that the Safar yashar from Rabino Tam for the first time ever comes out with a beautiful ass comma from Hulu Sam Cipher okay so as comma is one thing but do we see that because I'm sorry for using it so interestingly enough quotes a beautiful choose some safer in where he is three choos devoted to agunus in evanese now the significance is it's not like stamachuva and learning it's this is aguna Shayla and in there it plays out is a shites rabinu tam not only does it play out of shita specifically we're in Safari Asha interestingly enough the says I'm sorry for now to have this print it changes we see that the people beforehand tysus the rush the Mordechai they had different as Christ they didn't have a proper if they would have seen this Robina time says the Samson is very likely they would have passed him differently um and they would not have argued he says and he says so he wants someone else to pass now the reason is is this is very commonly found in aguna shayla's most rabbanim did not like to just pass in themselves who had no problems passing this is but what we're seeing over here is he's willing to use and to argue and recite him based on using a safer yasher that was just published from someone in pressburg that he knew well so this is one uh marama okay now another marathometrics I'm sorry for it was recently there's um one a way to get interesting information of all kinds is through is through auction Now Auctions farm auctions auctions happen um farm auctions manuscripts are auctioned off a few times a year actually these days many times a year and sometimes when you browse through these catalogs you can pick up all types of information one time in recent maybe less than a year ago I see is that they're auctioning off if some ciphers gamara and on the side basically there was a cryptic printed Hagar of the samsifer but based on the manuscript of the gemara of the samsaif which was being sold for a crazy sum of money um I did not have a chance to check up how much it was but it was sure it was some money I remember how much it was sold for lamisa but bottom line is it said clearly in this okay that's great so we see that samsifer was using manuscripts even not only public the safe ayusha was published in his lifetime by someone he knew he was using he even had some manuscripts looking in my notes I came across that one of the experts on the Sam Cipher um has a list of some other places or some sorry for about it so um recently I wanted I was curious if there's more sources for this I reached out to the one of the world's greatest experts I'm sorry for that hamburger from Bennett Brock from homericious ashkenaz he's written a lot on the Samsung Cipher and worked for years and he sent me a nice list of a few other places where we see clearly sometimes even had a manuscript or he's using the menu script okay I would say um 10 12 places okay this is with the some Cipher so here what we're seeing is some Cipher who's legendary for being a tire whatever that even means but he was using it he Embraces these these new materials uses them we've quoted other stuff from him in the past two episodes relating to this also so I've kind with some Cipher this is our number one for today so for those who really really work through these shiruman episodes well may recall that when we were learning we did an episode on the Oracle and air and in that episode there was discussion about the Oracle in there and his manuscripts so perhaps um remind those who may not remember exactly or recall exactly what you said and perhaps you have something new to add for this episode yeah so so just to recap from then and the significance of mentioning here is not to just um um promote previous materials it's also more because it really is part of the story part of the story that we're trying to see is is this is the mission of Brewer who he said it was so into doing this is this or where it was a common and more and more we're starting to see as the pictures emerging that it was more and more common than people might have thought um so now with arcloner this is a significant part of the story The Arc lenair is 1798 is when he's born he dies in 1871. he's prolific as we we discussed by Rico's on this in the sheer devoted team one of the things that we found we discussed is the journal that he that he was the head of for about 10 years from the 1840s till the late 1850s called chimezina Naman it was published in German and in English and India when you start turning through the pages besides all the halach that are happening there's tons of new things being this printed there for the first time manuscripts manuscripts have gone in manuscripts of the gamara and they're being discussed and handled and this is all under his he's was the one the main person behind this not only that we will be discussing more at length about this but the 2K site from one of the main people behind the project that which was about manuscripts of the gamara was darcene we've mentioned then that they were also certain swarm that came out from China that from manuscript that had they got heris from not only that his children his son-in-laws they were his son-in-laws they were also into this and they said you know we we mentioned this but a letter that was printed in yishun um what where he wrote actually to the Duke ciphem about is there in the libraries you go to libraries you're in libraries are there any manuscripts that are worthwhile to publish and he writes back to him a list of a few different that he knows he could get I some of them I even have I could send them to you and it's could I to put out um so we see here Dar cleaner asking him if there's something to do he's so we see it's common and it's a list of seven eight things anyway um and we said his talmud represent Heimer he ends up going all out with this and also publishing a lot about this now but that this is all showing that he's interested in it he's using it but what does he use this in his own personal writing so there's a tuba that umlife in his article on the Sugi of the manuscripts also there's a truth of the Binion scene where he writes his fouls he has a truva there's arriving which is bringing down a Reino heide and it seems that even it's it's passed but it seems everyone's not clear how to understand this from how you going and based on a new manuscript of the choose that just came out then says it's clear that it was a misunderstanding and he and through that he passed against like this new manuscript so it's brought as a proof uh here we see how strong how far it's not just the intellectual conversation in the journal the printed he's willing to go even Allah and the point is that his journal but it's not only in his truva the point with the journal is this journal was being read by all about him across Europe not only in Germany from the writers we could see he's a very popular Journal people were sending In Articles as far as from your slime so this was a much more common thing than we realized okay that's the second um for today okay fascinating so go back and listen to that share on the Oracle and air for a lot more information on the Oracle and air you discussed last time very dramatically for your style have a native traveled from his Yeshiva of a legend all the way to Saint Petersburg to track down manuscripts on the shelters and then he put out um you know his pirush we did it put out his peers on the shelters maybe get into that a little bit more and discuss why was it so important for the native to be able to track down was the only concern about was he concerned about other guy anymore was that something that was going on in that time period they fill us in and open up that sugar for us as you proceed okay so now what's interesting is like this I'm not the the as as you asked is that last week we made all dramatic so what's the what does this so see so significant in the in the should and to write a perishingly ends up devoting years on this work um it's published over a period of seven years but it's clear that he worked on it for a long time what did he see in this work that was so important so before in order to really even see the significance for our greater story also I like to just back up for a minute up till now we're discussing about we showing and and it's clear already we're starting to see a picture is emerging that a lot of restraining are coming out from the late 1780s and onwards until now until as we speak even this week stuff comes out so that's Vishal what about going on what's the story we've got in him so interestingly enough if someone was a rabbi in 1760 and he wanted to go build himself up a library he's about to build a library in a shul whatever is kylo and he wants to go gets farmer you'll be shocked to hear there's nothing there would be nothing for him to buy there were some items that were printed and the list is so small it's mind-boggling when one see here's the list I'm going to say the list not an exact order but it's very brief very important work in the world of gaining it's published in 1516 and then it takes centuries till it's published again it's so rare that even in the 1880s when um when someone else was working on the guy name Dr hakavi which we'll get to eventually Dr archavi he got a copy from his friend the Victor Cipher who had a rear library to use it and it was very important for his work in going the hill this is taking us to the 1880s it's not around but in the 1516 it exists it was printed and the shortest the printed in 1546 1548 now so you'll say okay but we see who needs them the base yasif has them interestingly enough the native points out then that the base of didn't have it for the most of his work when he's working on his work his massive work which is incorporating dozens of sources legendary has he writes and it's not dumbled the reshamed that he had he did not have a shelters for most of his work he does quote shelters most of the time it's through Shaney through other sources that we should have had to shelters but as the base of himself he says that at one point he does have it well why because basically it's printed in the middle of his work debaseif um so so even the base yasif who's a key figure in the rest of the story where many people used swarm through the base through secondary sources through the base the base is himself didn't have this work same thing with Allah seems he got it very late in his work so he didn't use it through primary sources the mecca from these are Works printed in the 1600s and then it's gone not on the market until when 1782. with amram going say the river among very important for davening and archaim and so too of sadiga and these are hiburon quarter by the tour we shouldn't have it the rosary going only comes out in 1941. with amram going for the first time it comes as 1865 and even then it's not complete what about truvis chuvist is virtually nothing there's a chuva safer printer that has some guy in them in 1575 very rare very unclear what even has to do with guy named and then there's nothing until the 1780s 1780s choosa Riff which is uh that has the print out we call it even though he's not a guy and he's right the first first Generations after the remagast is talmud also come this is 1791 and then you have 17 then you have um 1802 Chariot of the guy name and a little earlier in 1792 Shari telling so we're talking about a handful of works if someone wants to learn now but when you learn shine him you see going in my quota all the time but as if someone wants to see the prime text you don't have it now part of the story which we said came out through the ramban the significance is is when you see the context of something you could understand it much better we we showed how Justin in one simple little example Rivers as our motor shows that if you the ramban the way it's brought down the run in five lines versus the real ramban how it's brought down in the ramban's own Hebrew where it's three pages come out and all the give and take it it changes everything it makes you be able to understand everything much better so so but the point is that all these works are going to they don't have it it's only starting in 1780s now we actually have a episode where we which will be eventually put up will be put up where we deal with a little bit weird this came from the how the show this the work in the shelters in the 1780s where this came from would be shy Berlin slash pick his work on the shelters what it did but fast forward to the native 1860s and he goes and as he said he goes to go he wants to go get some of the going and stuff now what's really out there a few volumes as we just mentioned because only let's say five or six of these things are printed in before he's working on it now just to backtrack The Villa going what about the villanuev is very into also so so then so interestingly enough randomly come across this beer Agra he's talking about a MacArthur rambam and he's tell he sends you to the Makar the rambam is none other than the Mecca memka and when the mecca remember printed I just mentioned it's printed the first time it's printed is in 1602 but that's pretty weird that's pretty rare then the the the addition that it seems that he he must have been using was uh it seemed it seems that he was using this very rare Edition which is a flip but it's not one time a few times mishpat to use it for the rambam he had this rare work so the gra had at least one work of going him early on okay now but so the so we see something there's some a little connection which is clear but the with the gra and the works of guy name whatever he was able to have okay fine but now let's just jump ahead what about in all this I just gave a whole list of svarum interestingly enough we've mentioned a little bit in the past but in his one thing is we have a list of his library and a list of his Library so he throws out that he he um we're going to discuss some of the list some of the items that he has but basically in his sparm let's say carry out melach he uses you'll see him using with AMR I'm going with sadio gun he's using the shoulders all to help with the rambam he's using a pacla as a reason as another Makar he's using the natives he uses tubus riff all the time so much so that he even worked on me he had manuscripts of the true serif which we don't have from a yudra David Rochester was a huge expert in the riff and he was working on publishing a bunch of choose the Riff he did print one one volume in a pamphlet but sadly he died he was a great perfectionist so we still don't have all his work on it but hanktonevsky worked on it for him we know this how through the videos I mentioned in season one with Tigger where where Andrew quotes true is harif mixavyad so he's quoting he's quoting manuscripts even not not just that he's using stuff printed he's quoting manuscripts he told us to this teager that he worked on it for for watching he was paid for it he says and in Korea Malik a bunch of times he quotes of ramam through the through the true serif okay great now but um and we see him Crusader he he knows she was a refuge which is also very important in understanding Raman because there's also Messiah he's the time of The Refuge we are explaining has to get us back to the going but okayevsky understands the significance but what is the significance that he sees okay you want to say answering up rambams but is there more to the story that the native he was so that was his main concern that he's running to go be able to answer a rambam so the answer to this question is found in the natives the native asked this question pretty much and he explains what is going on I've already mentioned many times that a lot of times if you want to understand why someone wrote a safer or inside and behind the safer you don't have to read the safer some only you could sometimes his introductions introductions are a key to understanding what's going on in the mind in the Mahaba a lot of them at least in the olden days they gave you through their introductions insight into what their goal was specifically the native who even though he's very famous today as being the shashiva valajin for almost 50 years and he was a tremendous God but we still have not been Zach to penetrate the greatness of this person he was a direct link following in the in the footsteps of the of the Villa going clearly in all his works that he did and one of them is the guy name I already linked just a few moments ago something a little bit with the gra end and actual works of guy name there's also possibility with children in the bag the same type of story but so what's the native doing so native says I'm fascinated with the schultes and he writes three hagdamas that are it's its own keyboards called Cadmus where he explains you get inside in his whole mahalak he ends up using this material that he comes up with in this conversation unbelievable he has over here you see his how he's dancing through kalatarakula literally he's dancing through bablu xiaomi midrashim everything to create Tanakh to to basically create his world view that he ends up creating and and this he follows through with his writings his writings of him mcdover his writings on on Safra by mid bardvarum where he writes extensive parish and etc etc now so what is it what does it have to do in the cartoon saying what does he tell us about the Schultz so here he he basically says why did I why was this so important for me so first in his first his first hagadama which was called karma karishoin eventually was printed even as its own safer but it's found easily in the Himachal in the beginning so he basically lists out the greatness so in general I have to say as follows as a preface the native is very writes very cryptic even though he was an expert in the Hebrew language he writes like this on purpose and a lot of times the more you read it and the more you understand it um you'll be able to understand it more and I've been learning through this from years and years and years and literally every time I pick it up I'm able to understand a little bit more what he means not to the fullest this happens to be with translating to English but I haven't I wasn't able to pull out my copy it's buried somewhere in this room um but anyway he so he talks about this and the way he told I always feel when I say over native especially in the cabinet I'm never doing Justice to it because it's so in a few cryptic words he he really means much more so I'm saying that as akadama to to some of I'm just going to pull out a few brief lines and it's funny is is because this is really what he even holds of writing blush and kitzer that The Shining role palushing kids especially the guy in him and somehow you have to be able to pull it out but anyway he says as follows he says that um for example he's talking about the greatness of goinum so he says yashar obviously the safer yeah sure that we just got finished saying was printed and also last episode was just printed so he's also using it we see with great respect how he he learns up a particular piece in in bahag that's what he says but then he says in another place his mama argues on the bahag like nobody's business like like nothing doing similarly he says we find the um with a with the shelters at one time mamish gives it cause a racial guy in him but then in the studio muskavin he argues on it like it's nobody's business what's going on here he says I already showed that the sheets get it from the famous Ark that everyone always talks about in the studio of secretion and everything he says he got it from the shoulders but Robin Tam what's going on here at one hand you show unbelievable respect you have unbelievable titles for for this so to speak but other times not then he so then he he digresses and he says like this the rambam got from the Messiah from his father Thomas the remagash the Kabbalah of the goinim and every year so found in the dining room every Milo every word that was in schultes and bahag and the Riff even he picked up on he who the other remiss he had a messiah of everything what's going on and therefore he was able to he he writes skills that he was aimed on mamish everything and then he had a messiah from the guy in him and even though um he and he basically he'll be able to pick up from them and learn everything even from what they didn't say what they did say and how they did it okay now he says like this he says then he starts talking about the rambam in general as opposed he Compares it as opposed to other reshine him and how everyone it's known that they they spend a lot of time trying to figure out shouting the rambam but because they were they didn't have the bahag and the shelters so much so he says even the base which I quoted earlier even the base Yusuf didn't have the schultes so they're missing a key step in understanding the rambam the rambam is bringing a whole Messiah preserving from Guyana now it's known the ramam says a lot of times openly but but it's more than that it's a whole world thing that that doesn't exist because we don't have it you know he says of course the print they didn't have it they weren't um and they got plenty because there was a lot of other recite him there's Rashi and the whole Isis and all these were showing they got plenty no he's not he's not has to show them attacking anyone or saying anything but there was a certain thing that they're missing because they didn't have it now he goes on and on and and he says unbelievable things how he's miyasha of different things about it but but in short um he he then he says that he was to um to spend time working on this keeper okay great fine but I'm still not answering um why he chose to do this so he says basically like this ah he's talking about himself and he says is that I spend time learning and sifri and I saw how deep it is in helping one understand the gemara obviously also madrashim baklal um and and he spent a crazy amount of time on this and everyone knows that the shyness of these khiburum are very very hard to understand and he spent years mastering it so in order to understand this he also was fascinated with the bahag the Riff and the shortest who also wrote pekitsar and through his sensitivity that he picked up through learning the the the madrashe halacha and in baklol major show so he was able to be aimed on through the kids The Unbelievable sophisticated kitsar had lotion of the shortest what he felt he's being miramas and he held this is a source he spent years working on this now he says at this time what's interesting is like this at this time he didn't print his Parish into three and there's even a question why he didn't but the point is that and it's only came out much later in its own story but what happens is is that when you're when we're looking we're we're looking back says the native that I I wasn't even going to print my Parish on shelters because it's not I'm I'm still 20 years to go it's it's his 1860s and it's if dies in 1890s why should I be publishing this work that's that's so sophisticated basically what happened is he copied part of it for his son to look over and he sent it to him and it seems it almost got lost so then he got all nervous you know it could be this work that he spent years on working on it's going to get lost so then they rent and published it but he said of course I have to make mistakes he talks all about that it's his own discussion anyway in the next hagdama he goes on and on with where he discusses that there's different types of hiburum and this hiburum that he calls and this um this hiburum that are in in depth when he when he talks about um he talks about that the um that let's say even the riff if the basically ensure I said as I said I hate to I really hate not giving a proper um quoting every single line and every single unbelievable what he pulls out from here but basically is that he he says is that there's so much going on when you have these works well and if you're holding the sugya and you're so madactic and everything what they do say what they don't say it ends up being a pesach to understand so much more in learning so the native who was beyond sensitive to all this and as I said he spent years um years and years of learning and learning and when he it's interesting is when he published this book the the the the the Schultz when he publishes it he has asked from who the rat doll and as the famous Story Goes they say they say the story there's different parts of the story but in short his father-in-law Village the way they say it is you know he had a son-in-law he sees him sitting and learning but he didn't really know um um is he so something so special um and all different stories of of of of about alternative which I think half of them are baloney um but anyway but the point is what happens how does he find out about about his greatness of his son-in-law is through his the radial the radial doesn't give any us comments but he has a close relationship through letters they've actually I believe I'm pretty sure I was able to confirm they did meet maybe once or twice but by the radar says by the way send regards to your son what you have connection to my son-in-law and then he that he finds out whatever and then when the hammock Shayla comes out it rocks the world because as I said it's unbelievable unchartered territories here's a man who who's a Russia Shiva he's busy and he's putting out of work on him being medaican called what it says doesn't say you have to know Aramaic unbelievable sensitivity you have to be holding an ordinary shining all the gun and whatever he was able whatever he had at the time and he and he does this so the significance is is that this is a um these these Works were written once and if someone is able to penetrate so native says it could be he's wrong maybe he's even wrong but there there is a significance and and what even as he throws out the basic didn't even have it now the question you'll ask what about myself using the scriber we will get to um but he's using this work even at Allah myself okay but I I so just sorry just so just to recap you know you said you're reading the different lines there you asked what was the significance and correct me if I'm wrong is what you're saying is a submissive understood that for a schlamist and understanding collateral cooler having a schlemen's understanding the Torah both perhaps for halacha but maybe even for hashkafa and forever just to have the understanding and the completion of color terracula you need to have right that piece of the Messiah that the government brought to the table that perhaps was missing is that what they're saying yes and but and the point is if we have a specific studio and all of a sudden you have a text of a going even though it's very bekit sir but if you're if your mom is holding the suit you all of a sudden you could if you you could if anyone was familiar you learn a possible homage and you see what the native does with the Posse and he shows how Russia comes from it so he does the similar thing with the native it's sorry with the shelters he does the same thing with The Fray it's an unbelievable system that he built up in seeing the sophistication there was a method how they did it as they say method to the madness so you look at a dressing sometimes you're looking at a gemara how does how do they see it the native built a bunch of rules other people also built rules so same thing he held that in the enem in their cryptic lotion there's so much more and it helps you understand the suggest so much more but that's it in a nutshell but he says it's so obviously so much better and where he goes with it pages and pages about it and as I said he writes very short so imagine if he's devoting a bunch of pages where he takes you all over anyway but the point is there's a major significance for The Guiding um okay but but um to move on with with all this so he does use this for Allah myself will say that in short but but we're not going to go into that right now so now what happens the native does this we're going in is anyone else doing stuff with him um at this period of time the answer is there's dozens not there's a nice amount I would say a dozen or so different collections of work so Ghana coming out from all over for example um the arclonaire mentions that he's passing based on something okay we're not going to go into a complete list if one wants to see a write-up about the significance of these lists a little bit um Brody one of the world experts on guinem of today in his book on the goinum in Hebrew so he does discuss the various aspects the pros and cons of the various works that were coming in okay but but basically what's happening is from the 1860s and onwards small Works come out here and there but the problem is which is very simple is that you want to work how do you know you're learning how do you know if there's a piece in the garden you're going to remember you're going to know that there's a chuva there's a true of a guy that talks about it so obviously not so many people are running to use it okay fast forward to a yid known as we've quoted him bam movini he's referred to we've spoken about him a few times we've mentioned that he a work of his a few times in various episodes in on the masectus which is so who is he what is he and what how does this relate to continuing with our story so the answer is like this he's born in 1879 dies in 1944. and around 1898 he becomes very close with Ruth cook and he's close with him until we're cook dies now a lot has been written about him recently there's a nice article from and he also has a book because where he has a little chapter about him and he does similarly it is an excellent book on riff cook talking about her cook until 1900 from Professor Huda mersky called Torrid the mystical experience of modernity the making of cook 1865-1904 where he also has chapters where he discusses the relationship of cook and Bam Levine as he's known now what does bowel moving do so basically bomb Levine starts in 1906 working undergoing okay he starts with the Garrison you're going now we've also mentioned in one or two episodes the significance for Jewish history and the document the video showing which thanks to article now is an English translation to it just today um someone brought over to me a new addition um Rabbi Rabinowitz brought over a new edition that just came out yesterday of today from Meister cook you guys for sure you guys it's an addition of his that he put out before um but the kitzer who was the first person that really did intense work on you guys so sure you're going this was bam Levine in his doc this was his Doctorate eventually publishes a book the book when it's published is dedicated to who his you did rev cook he moves on and he moves on to start working more and more intensely on him he's grabbed a close talmud of the doors who are showing him anyway um and today it's interesting not so many people know him however interestingly enough on the other hand was just recently reprinted so someone's buying the set if they if they bought it through printed now what does he do what's so significant for our story one of the things he does besides tracking down new materials again is he takes the materials that are in all these Publications that are being printed and all these new discoveries and he puts them up the Seder of the Daphne so he's making a much more approachable so let's say you're learning that nadaram and you want to know if there's a piece in the guy named that phase and you want to see what the native saw on them so you can at least pull out it's a guy in most of the volumes of all the volumes are in Hebrew books anyway bottom line is he makes this all available he he puts out 12 I think it's 12 volumes and it's a mapeha for those that care about these types of things making it available now after he dies there was attempts to continue um someone sent me a letter a while back that uh Epstein and simcha saf wrote to show Libman to maybe help um public get funding to pop to continue this amazing worthy project okay interestingly enough I'm looking at my computer about about bomb Levine in this project I come across or destler writes a beautiful letter back in in nineteen in the early 1900s about bam Levine that he was talking in London and he went to hear him and he talks about his um his project the cloud very very in a very positive light he even talks about a lecture that he heard from him anyway um but the point is that he was a he was a as I said he was very close he was very under the influence of cook very closer of cook now what's the significance about this but before before we get to this just this will also fine tune back to what I was saying what's the significance of the guy in baklal is and what rochanievsky who's also using isagan and casader in all his writings he use it all the time what are they seeing in here so as I quote many many times I quote from cyphron versus Heaven these are three volumes of book reviews it was obseven the votes I would say 70 Pages come out he reviews one two three four five six six volumes in each one he pulls out fascinating showing how how different pieces help for Le Marshall he says Ah the viral from had a certain childhood oh if he would have opened up though it's a guide and he didn't have that again at the time whatever but viron was actually also Pro these types of stuff anyway he he goes on and on pages talking about the murder the significance um um helping understand new questions stuff that there's no that the the handled all types of things any and he gives and what significantly represent it's not just talking about oh that there's such a thing if you use this material he gives you many examples through these 70 pages of Eric now of course going back to the rambam we keep a mentioning the rambam this is a very key helpful source for the randomness so from seven points out yeah of course it's also very important for gear size there's tons of gear size it's going to be found through all this anyway as I said is using this throughout um okay now with cook continuing with the with the guinea member of so roof cook also chuva sarif comes out at that time someone asking for askama and with cook writer are receiving for it and we see also of cook showing oh the significance of the Riff backs with the rambam where this is our melter and his Iris on the on the truth or riff is the same type of thing so these are happening that there's a lot the the intensity of text of a gun is very very important now Robert cook referring to of cook in a letter um which she basically outlines the whole mahalakalimood to a Arab Israel parath he also discusses one of the many things is important to know and use the literatures of the Ghana RAF cook not only as I said was the rebbe he wrote very beautifully two essays about him and and he had different interesting he built up which is building off of his who we watched the whole connection over here very simple who's the atalameter of the Native very very could die to see is that the native um in the 1880s they wanted to publish a um they published in one of the in a journal called Canasta Cicero different write-ups of different people so they asked to have cooked they asked the native right up here's your life story so the native wasn't doing it but he said he told his talmud rev cook write up my life story and and so he does it's an incredible essay and in there he also emphasizes the Galas of the Native talking about his hiburumi talks about his work in manuscript he talks about the shelters how he how significant goinim is for him so it's clear is that the influence of valajin the Native had an impact on this yid who we know as with cook who had an impact on bam Levine who was one of the one that made one of the major major impacts on in the field but I just conclude with one last stickle one last piece that relates to all this and that is there was another person possibly that also might have influencer of cook in this in to be Pro manuscripts and go eat them also and that is his father-in-law and then tragically after his wife dies he ends up marrying this person's niece yeah nice and that is who is worthy of numerous numerous podcasts but we will have just there was a you that there is one of the Greek who ends up coming to Shalom being the ravenous line till he dies in early 1900s anyway that dares who is known for being prolific and writing's Farm of all types of all genres and all and all things so number one is that in general that there is Le Marshall the Rashmi Shan samsaken was printed from manuscript and they have a keyboard that it seems somehow the manuscript of the rashmashanth made its way to not darus and he wrote a whole Hebrew on it and it was published a bunch of years back another story that relates to nourish item is the Iran the uranium interestingly enough we the uranium most people do not have Iran what's the significance of the uranium so if you look in the ascama in the in 1804 uranium was published and it was published as a beautiful scama from who um remember frames on my goals remember frames are my goals it outlines how hush of he's one of the godalia tell medium of Rabino Tam so we have he even says that he's the closest but anyway the point is he's one of the baliatosis is going to be very important the base did not have the Iran okay so now they published the Iran gets published a bunch of years after the base of finished his work it could be even after he dies but pretty much the Z Ray amount there but it's not published a million times until 1804. turns out in the 1890s someone goes ahead and finds out that there's a massive manuscript to the uranium and the work that was published in 1804 and the in the late 1500s was a kid ceramish it's not the real work in the Raymond it's much much more so what happens like all the rest of the stories so 1890s till the early 1900s this fellow puts out and based on the manuscripts and intense being the capirish on the he puts out the text of the Iran for the first time not published and then be in the cars who does he get hires from the others that there is the scribes in that he got a hold of a copy the of the iranium and he wrote Horus on it and then tragically um it seems that parts of it were lost in a fire that he lost most of his farm which he describes is an incredible autobiography bottom line is that he wrote Horus and he gives this fellow the horse and then gives him a beautiful scam also and the significance of the Iran bottom line is this material comes out so we see just these are two small examples that give him any more that Darius isn't tanubi China One More example talking is that and this will conclude is as follows that um there was a yid Dr archavi which we'll discuss more about him soon but he started publishing in one of the journals that I think was called yag Del Tyra different pieces of going and that he was discovering so he wrote does anyone care about this this was mostly a journal about Tyra so now Darius writes a Vada every piece of information he could tell us from is could I to publish and publish so here we see this is in the 1880s so I'm all I'm showing is is that the the Rev cook who some of his greatest heroes and influences was that dares we kept up with man which even after his wife dies he becomes his nephew now through marriage because he married adarius his twin his daughter and they keep up and he even wrote a book about that there is after theirs dies and so to the native these influences him and this triggers with with the eitzer Gainer but to conclude for today is that we see here this whole thing of it ends up sparking a whole world which was just nifter and used cased there in all his farm something that you will in many yeshivas even if they do have some of the works to guide him if they have a set of eye to guide him and if you go to a base match and you pull it off the shelf you'll see the layers of dust on it they don't really appreciate it it's very hard to the truth is it is very hard to appreciate even with the new discoveries that they're doing some of them are written in Aramaic and all different reasons behind it but bottom line is these big the superstars did appreciate it the native the whole of Hulu and including who uses a casedi throughout his Works Hashem the next episode we will continue um to get somewhere closer to the end of our journey with this story okay fascinating so as you said next episode we'll continue to I guess we'll continue on the journey to complete the picture correct of this topic and um maybe we'll have to start you know figure out some kind of contest you know people could start um sending in their their guesses you know who Rabbi broughts top five heroes are um sometimes they change here and there but it's something to think about um we've got to figure out like a nice contest for this anyway till next time thank you very much