Deep Dive into Likut Seforim and R' Chaim Kanievsky

[Music] welcome back Rabbi Dr elzar Brut we are back for at least part two on this is part of our greater series season two onki but we're focused now on Li far so Rabbi br's gonna follow up with the sheer episode delivered previously on Li farum some more information some fine-tuning and we're looking forward to this we once again thank our generous sponsor who has sponsored all of season two on kki he's anonymous but the dedication is in memory of may have an alah BR what do you have for us today hopefully some nice interesting things well let's let's see let's see about what the feedback will be okay okay okay so last time just to recap in two three sentences is I spoke about Li Farm it's good to use them not to use them I showed that the Mish and they call themselves amongst other things AER which is that some form ofer that collecting a lot of information from all different places and this is one fun I also mentioned that this is one of the functions of the great safer B from Ciro it's a collection of massive amounts of material that existed up till his time then I then I just traced a little bit that afterwards there were some there were many different important but I just focused briefly about the much later on Thea and the um these are important I also showed that the and the they looked at the so important that you could that the that it wasn't just that he brought down something the way he brought it down the parts that he brought down are very important for okay there's a crazy wealth of literature out there that's published and it has to be accessed so the way to access it is through these type of leid farm okay the end I mentioned a little bit about if searching for Stuff searching for makus is y and we we'll fine tune these two points today a little bit and see some more information about it number one I came across a while ago a chud where he's talking about something in and then he talks about um it seems the person told him something from so so says as I don't look at TR of our contemporaries or even the DAR before so he does not look he did not look too often in the TR beforehand this is what the says okay is one of the great giant of all time that's what he says okay there interesting CH there's interesting letter from the nav at one point he talks about chuvas farm and he says that um they're very useful for they help open up the sh for those that are looking to pasin because you see sometimes had to do something laa in a different in a different incredible Tru of the slash letter um which has many many different fundamental issues which not for but just to mention some of them as it relates to this specific topic he talks about the importance of truist and he says it's so um um he holds that because first of all you the p is saying this is what one's supposed to do and then he brings a famous that's quoted a lot of times in this type of conversations so there is some type of thing that in a cha when the is saying to rely on that this is what you should do there's some type of importance to that we do know that certain G did not want and that's what the is dealing with also maybe certain G didn't want their tras to go get out afterwards they didn't publish them themselves this is part that's a different conversation then the says another thing there a special when a is asked to sh and he gives an answer is very into this side others also say a similar type of he says some other points and then at the end he rather throws in a fascinating piece of information we find that there are certain that are lost so he says some type of thing like this they were in that their should be in and he says even by we learned from the okay anyway it's an interesting which will actually play out possibly shortly so the um but the point is the nav is very interus that there is a very important there is a value in chuvas okay there's an interesting piece um the first discovered in a manuscript by Rua munshine in a journal called that came out from B volume giml um this this this never came out it's called the manuscript still exists in Hebrew University and in the introduction he he discovers that tal M ofner was once visiting a fellow and and he said over to him that valner his Rabbi said this what says in the name sort of a that no one got together together which will be very beneficial and all we know is the like the and the whereas for someone to go ahead and do it obviously this shua was most likely um first of the Shu was before there was the P cha and even the sh Chua um came out towards the end of's life so it's that's probably what happened because he had maros had Cas and had a Casher with I assume that that's what it's from but anyway this safer that where this manuscript is is is some type of collection of truis onar okay so you see even valner is pro not only the TR learning TR literature or someone making some type of collection of this literature to make it accessible and available okay such as has a famous to truis of his truis ra pal where he's again cting that they don't look that didn't look at truis and one of of his about this that tus on different P that they do not use um the various TR okay now an issue is if now in general to point out is like this the issue of Aer is sometimes the Leer is its own words and sometimes it's just direct quotes the where I said specifically the very into it he knew how to take out specific quotes and bring them down the problem a lot of times with is they miss quote and throughout the generations there were many learm that would be Mal they' say something and it turns out could be exactly opposite it could be very problematic just to mention and and this fear is partially a fear that people have RAB even have fears against various l to take away from the value of such a safer but there's a bestselling work out of just complete just came out finally the last volume of M it's been in the works for 20 something years um and volume on dollar M just came out a few weeks ago and this is a best-selling work when it comes out thousands of copies are sold worldwide and basically what this person did is it's a ton of information on the S of the Mish he collects it from a lot of different Farmer on the Mish one of the many different Far Ready on the M okay so some people complain is there there there's two complaints this which just to bring it out not again specifically the safer but this is a common problem that people have with leid f and that is as follows you could have a great P let's say says something is M say something is M and the these type of will bring on the footnote buter that says it's AER now most people don't necessarily have at their fingertips who's this hotson plot safer so now let's say it's thiser was really a god reer unknown reer of his generation way back okay that's a different that that's a that's a Sha but many times it could be is some young K guy who wrote a piece in some Journal that it's great to have the information but who said that that's going to change the you have whoever the big p are again such a thing so people are get very nervous from it but another greater problem which has been shown with many Le f is the quoting the quoting could be off just to mention one um um story about this is his father's a fellow under a pen name a friend of mine his name is the pen name he uses akes so he wrote an article over 10 years ago on the far blog which was he demonstrated that 16 today current people alive all quoted something in hilus bris and none of them saw the actual Source inside each person was taking from the other so we say Li exist just you see how many Li there are in there's many any more than 16 but and they they're REI a lot of times they're relying on the one before and this is a fear that people have why they're have some type of fear about Le for for centuries this is not a problem today this has been a problem discussed and pointed out by many different and even sometimes you find of today um I'll quote one shortly he says in his introduction yeah a lot of times AER there's a problem so maybe you can say not to rely on Miley could say for yes I made it my concern to check the sources and as I said even the talks about great that he calls them and he says sometimes they also make mistakes so this is a issue and fear about now just to mention um um for the uniqueness I quoted in earlier episodes which deals with um um for how it works out fascinating safer that came out many years ago and this was his Fame his claim to fame although he was a great go in his time was that he was the uncle of the and he rather brings a bunch of things from his nephew the iner okay anyway in this say from he says in his sh blot a very strange L he says what what is this he took a topic that there wasn't so much information about it and he gathered a crazy amount of information so he says and he um he's he's sort of even poking fun of it himself that he just he gathered it's a lot of work to be Mala from tons ofar and sources but there's no behind it then he says so he's like playing down what he did whatever you know interestingly enough one he gets tons ofas from the great son of says he does he says it's what you say he theer is picking on the sh already that there is now obviously there's something going on and that's what I'm going to focus on in a moment the of such a because as I said this guy this person was a great a great at the time okay now there's a fascinating there was a fascinating yid I actually I'm not sure if I mentioned him in previous episodes his name was shap he dies in 1906 in Born 1840 okay this is one of these unique um Superstar um in anyway this person he was the rebi ofap and it seems he was one of those special today unknown but a very special so after he was wrote a book about him a book about him you say here's a case of a of a of a tremendous ad God such as writing a god book about his RAB and gets reprinted by Ritz who is very into he found this also fascinating so he reprinted whatap publishes and now just understand it has ASAS from the Blazer zeld and Rook so there's a and there's a lot of fascinating things going on in the safer um uh a fascinating unique not your typical type of person he's a tremendous he was very into fasting um which was so interestingly enough in the various say this is even though yes it's good to know that he was like that but there's not something to do he was on the D to do such a thing anyway so publishes a few different letters of this tremend his Rabbi that he had that he wrote to some people anyway this beside this this Rabbi was tremen this rev Shapiro was tremendous into learning he learned the but one of the things he did was after he learned he would he was fascinated to see whatever he could see on the Su whichever he would be fascinated to look at and he writes in a letter that there's so much information out there that after got there's no such thing as a that could know so that's why there are it's to see different things because through you could sometimes find different that you would never that they got a special that you would not get so he sort of and he was writing this as a nuda to a tal of his about a nuda in learning da to look for sources to go out of your way and to try to hear what other people have to say because it because very important okay now blitzky I'm returning to him actually so he was a tremendous um God in in was only a few years ago had and one of the things is he was one of these people that had to do with all different worlds what do I mean he was a lak he was he actually knew The KES he was close to The KES and he held himself a gr Nick so to speak mean say he was to do many of them hugus of the gr but on the other he was very calaa but also into and he was in contact with all different from all different worlds and he wrote doens ofs close to 100 were published in his lifetime some of them are small all types he was also a big balm a very big sadic type of yid and he wrote one of the things is he's one of the people that like specialize in these like like take a tap per a whole and write a whole massive saer about it and he was one of the first people that did um like these unique type of topics like even like a and he could write a whole saer anyway so he was very into so volume 40 and even 41 was devoted to a lot of about him and in there there are fascinating quotes relating to this topic of liar that he was very into and he held that one should make use of liar so the and just to say bitzer he in a different place in a different article that was published he talks about um what's Han hugus for a rabbi he like he it seems he wrote this um 50 years ago or something some tips for R so one of the tips is he said like this today we have on every single you could find that there's a on that someone went ahead and was to collect all the information on the Su now basically a pis a or someone involved with these type of things a lot of times there's so many new types of topics you don't even know where to begin so a should make it his business to have these to the of these topics okay this is a very interesting thing of his but on the other hand interestingly enough he is concerned so so first of all he also wrote a bunch of these types of swarm and he's recommending rabim that they should also make use of these type of swarm to get them but on the other hand interestingly enough he's also concerned with that sometimes you have to be careful with the quotes Okay now and that's a key point that will come up shortly and that is as FS who are these Bali mean say let's say I find that PL went ahead and a topic and I'm not I'm not saying this safer I'm just because of staring right in my face I'm not saying it's it's the problem over here there a safe called someone went and wrote two massive volumes on everything about a which in is not even so but someone went and learned it and he M learned from the Su scratch and every safer and he was in contact with the bunch of the at the time so now but the problem could be is maybe the person who is learning this topic and writing about it doesn't really know he could beit in all other areas I'm not saying that about this um but anyway now the point is like this there was a thing called specialist identifies in the times the we have certain one is a famouser which will play out soon which is one of the key works on safos we don't know anything else about this m except that he has one one he's one of the main sources let's say for the for on how to write so the point was sometimes these might only be a for said topic of safas we don't know if they were anything else there's also of of people they they wrote all but that's all they knew or it's possible that's all they knew so there's some type of fear that you have to be aware that who just because PL wrote a saer on this and this topic who said um um he's a Mand so to speak if he's going up against now interestingly enough there's a I came across once scum of that to the saer to the incredible saer called and over there he talks about says and then and then brings a bunch of this that there's a that there's so much to know out there so what happens is that we find certain that they became so to speak the goto person un said topic and and he's saying you should use this in many different areas but that there is the just throws out there such a concept that that a God that there's such a thing as for specific there's a fascinating in the so this I heard from a learner many years ago like this he says that writes basically that there's such a if someone takes a specific topic and spends on that topic he could be the in now even though says it it obviously needs clarification because it you can't have a person that just that doesn't know never learned that doesn't learn and just takes a random topic without any other background and then he becomes the godar even in that topic I don't think even means that anyway recently a beautiful saer came out a few months ago called a massive almost thousand page saer old different 70 chapters on he has a whole thing about this to not with trying to be we have and then in certain topics he's the the say he's a tremendous and then he's expert more in okay anyway interestingly enough I'm just to say two three marus about this and then we'll move on um like this interest a lot of times and especially even today one could um um will find that this Tyra is just endless there are so many new topics there's explosions of topics um especially in modern medicine in in knowing mos Let's say electricity it's a brand new topic um um It's relatively it's 100 it's only 100 something years old the the shist about it and require in order for someone to understand it you m have to properly have to have the proper understanding of the sciences and the m and there's so many different topics today in Al as time goes on and new different inventions causes that one has to know incredible amounts of information so at the same so the same time someone has to know all this information understand it and to be a pis in it to know the Su from scratch and everything about it it make it's very hard um it's coin too there's too much to know so interestingly enough I came across years ago that salant seemed to already in his time was concerned that there was too much information to know and we don't have such as he his specific example was the and or so there's too much to know what could you do so so salant tried he was thinking of a program to come up with and it sounds like the people the starting point was people that were and then to create that these people should become experts in different M so they should be an expert in yet in whatever M there is you know that's the address for this Su this is address for this Su an incredible thing and it's fascinating how it's written out by not only about a great known as the if someone learn you'll see his quot very often made he made Al at that time with Frank anyway so he was a put out a bunch of different in this he brings this whole different thing for this whole it's a few pages from Reb Isel salant that he was trying to do such a thing to create such a thing and it's just incredible to see all the different quotes and the different Nas in this aspect but the point was that it sounds like to be a GLE and yet in all areas of Tyra too it's too much already it's Mish too much and and and and interestingly enough he was saying um this is R salant talking salant was was one considered one of the great Giants in his generation not just what people think to of him as a BAL he was unbelievable G and he was worried and concerned about this so the point was he was trying to come up with Ean had to fix it interestingly enough another person that was trying to fix such a thing was cook in the 1880s he tried to create a journal it didn't take off his wife died so only two issues came out but in one of the nas that he was trying to do also was the create a forum for G to be able to write in because there's too much to know so different will write up and you'll be able to hear feedback from different what they think about said issue because say m like live that have tremendous and all different things fighting it out or discussing it out okay now and interestingly enough a little later Inus in VNA that not in VNA butus in Europe we find that this came up also there was such a mus um okay now and just to conclude this with two other Nas we find interesting there's a m brought down by the this is in the times that the how is written it's interesting M um sometimes um over time I come to believe that there's there's much truth to this especially after what I just said basically the story goes like this this is the that the brings it was they sitting in they sitting in B learning so the what was given Ty in those days was mostly Bal so each one of the various were people that were experts in one M say they knew what to learn trust me G's fine not not like people today they knew what to learn but in one they were an expert and they would handle each sh and they would say how does they go to him does it does this work out yes does work no why not he bring up the gamar then the guy the next rean would say oh there's a gamar inas like that it could be answered because when you look at tus you see all of a sudden sh is being pingpong which was by rashi rashi stays anart but when you start learning tysus all of a sudden garus L come so there's a Mah brought down by the like this it's very interesting because I'm saying H that this is a necessary thing there's so much to know and you need okay anyway um but the point is the fear is that this has to be a tremendous and I think also this relates to was very into this that held very strongly it has to be a tremendous um whereas fer has a they have they had a whole discussion which was relating to a concept called Bal a if there's such a thing as a say someone could be he's an expert in a but he's not an expert in so is's no such thing you have to in order to be a you have to be a held um I'm not going into the whole discussion about it I actually once mentioned it an episode about the K but the point was there's such a thing you have to have a you have to have a cook of also it has to be a playing over here so even this m he could be a but he's a that also has a tremendous y okay but this is obviously I'm not trying to fine-tune the thing I'm just trying to point out various ideas about this okay now fast forward the stier who we've said numerous times who is one of the main influences on who kki is son they learned Chast together and they they had a lot to do with each other what's his opinion about Li so interestingly enough we have a few different quotes one is someone someone um it seems had a in they didn't know about if a was pule so um they talking about it so either this is either the stier or the they said you have to make sure to have a from the which we have an episode which we still didn't release about the of theer he says every R and L when he got a job bought a and he never never left a sh because all the sh that come up in the middle of SCH you need to have a go-to sa for to Pas now it could be afterwards the r might decide to learn the Su and might argue on theas but you have but the point is the nus was the nus as I said I I talk about in this episode he was the superstar godar in that time so there are so sear type of these f are like that okay so the styler says bring such it's very confusing because he's a tal of both and I forgot off hand it's been a long time since I used the saer what's what anyway but the styler over here brings down one of the that he would keep for p because the Stifler which didn't use so many on P because he held you have to check the famous story with they said he cleaned it for p so said no he didn't clean it for PES he knew he never used it the whole year so he was able to he didn't have to worry about it for PES but anyway this is the of great but anyway The Story Goes so here the aru says one of this F was mad why because the safe mad is a of from and the said comes up for him on P he needs to have a goto that has a of his arm now the very few peopleware what it is this is the same again not so many people know what is but if you use you'll see it's quoted dozens of times per page incredible work now on that was that springboarded off the so here we have that the stier was into thiser another place have is the stier another one last place is again about the P which we spoke about last time and he say so here brings that the same was very into the he also he rather also bring similar to what we brought from a different Source about the chab and the P another they bring down is someone asked him which safer to buy they said it's very and and he says like this um the styler lik to look at different such as he looked at always and the which we spoke about briefly and some other which is an incredible okay so we see even the stier looked at now what's this I'm trying to bring up is like this so as I said Ki writes this we mapped out based on his own list and checking his list is every thing and then some somehow ised into these four massive volumes called okay but and the new stuff and everything and he could have on on one page he could bring you the me eight times and all the and everything Glory he bringing okay but I'm learning many years ago and I'm learning which was found in and I noticed that all of a sudden I see his quoting a from before the war on then all of a sudden I see another Overlander of I see once twice a bunch of times what's going on here and eventually I discover as follows that already writes in the beginning of Al that he's really he's writing it on the r and it's a work what could you do also has and all and all these types of so what is this what is ask right these areas I didn't really learn as much um I brought say everything else he checked everything whatever anyway now if you go learn over there you'll see he's bringing G find and new stuff of his own also but he does use various Le F so as I was going through that I came across and just to point out the list is as follows on one hand you'll find that he'll use the he said yes the so he brings without even checking up theud on the other hand I I came across there TR a tremendous brings it down and then he says but this didn't check bring wasn't it properly so he relied on the but then he didn't rely on and he checked it up the M he brings down okay so I started to look to see what real contemporary leid F does he bring down discover as FS so he brings but those are mainstream he even brings a more contemporary person he brings that's published very recently you get the so so what I'm saying is that uses also Farm of different people you get it's more more he quotes a lot he quotes a say from which we we already spoke about last time and other times he was very into the saves lot time let's say so he quotes he brings the he brings a contemporary guy all the time you mention Shalom put out a massive work called he Rings a c the whole time he brings the you see over here that what that also did this nuda is that he went and he learned to suus from scratch and as I said scratch like there has never been before checking all the and everything when it came to the after so sometimes especially topics that he did rely on what does he rely on from these so to be clear not so much the the information of these are very important for him and that's what's going to play out shortly with the also me say like thisi didn't have every under the son he didn't have a his same that he's legendary for is not for he didn't know every Tru safer he didn't learn every Tru safer he didn't have every Tru safer he would rely on these type of this ask the question and now would try to answer it based on his information so he would see that brought down in the asked this in this andus you could answer that that's what he so he was using these similar to what I said about the the became the library for for they didn't have this Farm they would just use this farm so for for will rely on some different contemporary from the okay interest it's it's an interesting point I'm just trying to bring it out take it or leave it okay fine now now we get to the to the to the to to the to the end of this episode um there just the last few minutes I like to get talking about the Kish um as follows and that is like this we we spoke we began last week at the end we spoke about what what's the story about if you have to um look up doing research so so over here you see Galore he's looking at every he's making sure to have every he relies on various that he felt he could rely on four different things so I brought a bunch of different quotes about if it's a so one quote that I didn't bring at the time was that one night they found out that he walked very far to F there was a certain safer that he needed to see it wasn't in vilner so he walked very far it was freezing cold to get the safer asked him why he says what do you mean like so therefore what's the big deal I walked to a different place it's not that far it's closer than Shay to go look up they're safer so you see the great Z he went to now that doesn't necessarily mean I'm not coming to try to go the other way that oh you should be spending hours and hours researching and tracking down different but the point was there is this in okay why am I keep on saying this looking up and that is as FSE the as we've said um in the past was involved throughout his lifetime in various what's called P one famous one is that is the letter sadik how one writes the letter tadik this is a topic today in recent years is so much ink has been spilled articles in various journals very hot sensitive topic and I'm not attempting Q at talk about the actual topic but just to understand what we're talking about is how do you write a letter Tad so one Mal is it's it has the letter yud and the N together the top part has the yud the next part is the n so it's a y on top n together what about another method this is the method that b bring down is another another way of writing it we'll call it just for lack of of um um are into they have the Y is backwards okay so question is where this comes from and this is a pulus in the times there was a tremendous which is tremendous his name wasman and he for many for a bunch of he had a bunch of letters back and forth with The KES talking about tumbling in this where The KES said his opinion about it and he was trying to convince the Kish the other way okay and as they said this is this is there's booklets about it um the sa this for Freeman published all the letters the corresponden he had with the about it and all his material about it but there's tons of Articles and there's more articles being written and discoveries and different things and then people get all hot about it and then there's discoveries that possibly there's forgeries and T and with this type of topic we're not going to get into but reading through the Kish letters on this topic we start to see something emerges about the in general says then he says this topic similar to other topics is not always that there's a clear cut and that's then he says in this in this um discussion what does he do you rely on and I'm going to see who those are ah you brought me is possibly not like [Music] this it's not clear what what's G to come after so now what the is saying that I don't do the Kish says this even more um um in these letters as I said this these letters took place over a while back and forth um the guy tried to bring different manuscripts to to defend his SI then he says and then and so that's it that's where we go and then some type of about the and okay so he says all these types of this person tried to bring him R from the people that um on the other side and what you find over here um says what am I supposed to do these they don't mention it okay then the says um that these are the people they're the ones that caused the in we go according to them okay then in again in the in this conversation some type of quote another time he says so we see again and again is saying some type of that he's that's not what he felt to do he does say that there might be that people that there this is De but he it it's not his then he says to collect people that say it's maybe there's even that that that but they didn't come to us similar to what I quoted earlier on in is not to do research okay so these are um K you see time and time again the K is saying some type of thing that he's not looking okay he's not doing research so to speak okay the GU bringing him the M that's not it's not enough okay now the famous classical work on the Kish came out years ago called parador so they bring down um um a quote about the dark Chua one time he send someone to look up a he wanted to see something with it and is a of CH then then this another quote is a fascinating quote I found is something they're talking about rer and he says that is bringing down that were very reare in that period of time had a s to learn Exotics Farm daily a few a half hour hour every day we learned them and that's how come we find if you go through Gus and Sh and everywhere A lot of times he brings from no one hand says the how do he have time to look at all this okay on the other hand interestingly enough I come across a they Kish was nter so they asked her of Herzog what to write something about Kish so in the conversation he says he was once in his house he says he had but he pointed to his farm so says he says you don't have a lot of sparm so says yeah even and he he says even what I have is too much he say the Kish held there was some type of thing too much is not good he wasn't interested in it now um fine now what so what did The KES rely on so my claim is like this the Kish held that we we mentioned already a few times throughout the past two episodes that there's made there's important information on these Chas but did the work already I feel and seeing the language even in this pul the was a massive library of information it's in the okay I'll talk to you tons of learned very well he knew he didn't just like learn the G and had his there's no what was the safer the go-to safer of the mass information for the is the Mish the Mish is a c crazy amount of information again he also collected from and everything and learned it crazy and we know this from right the first safer publishes quotes dozens of times this safer was his database so to speak now we interestingly enough thiser that I've quoted a bunch of times and he quotes he quotes a bunch of here and there just not he was into his own he was into his own thing his M was I have my I have my I have my mission Brew so to speak these are my data of collection of important material that's out there that's enough for me I'm not going to look too much for more as opposed to as I said plenty of people let say the M bre what did M do the was enough for him he went to track down all the he he was somehow nervous from this now what's going on what's behind the nervousness of the Kish to decipher it so just to mention and it's like this two these are the two points that will be M with very is like this as I said on one hand the is the library has I'm going to tell you a fascinating thing this is I can't believe when I was when I made this list I didn't that such a thing happen so I said has this massive Library okay there's even an article recently of of how many times the the TR no one had TR but the had tons of TR he made sure to put TR wherever it's important thousands of Tru put them to them in all the right place article from and they try to decipher the library but it turns out interestingly enough various did not have in episodes one through six I spoke about many different I didn't know this at the time but the the the the not have so means to say like this um all these are mainstream people the doesn't have theing so says I have theing so now the the point is that the the library so to speak gets updated the of course the B have had a crazy library and people used it just like the is updating it there's update is afterwards all these are being published so of course there certain times the will say yes I could use it and we showed throughout three episodes of there were times said yeah arasa you could publish it it's real certain times he was nervous he didn't hold of this that he held and it's not necessar that he held that no one should do it I keep on asking is doing his his nephew person he did it for he had that he didn't have that to do that wasn't his to go do the research to collect all the and sit and process it he held he has the gar he has the text in front of him that's enough I came across a quote recently said I'm not even sure what that means because when the put this made I quoted about this once that that people to have a crazy it was necessary to understand didn't need it said anyway so the point is that what I'm saying is the library gets updated at a certain point in time didn't care to update his Library so this is a major says in h trus it comes up there's a whole de that what happens if there certain trus that today they live they lived past this man of being a TR so does it change so already deal to the and the r this is a comes up with some type of he starts saying it in one place later on it comes more sure of it that there's that there's a man that the T was given there there's different of T and so it doesn't make a difference if it changes at a certain point in time but if in the when the T was given this was a tra that's effects plays out for everything so so I saw um someone sent this to me actually z a good friend of mine sent me that brings down from his brother I believe I quoted once or twice before spoke about that he come from manuscript that with had this special he got what was necessary for him and stuff that was okay that wasn't important so you find all these information and as I said look at all the lists and this was in episodes the first few episodes of the season I spoke about all these AAL this was what was and this was his yeah he updated it I said for CH he RI on he does rely as a matter of fact the certain I see he brings it Howes bring it MRI knows about it so there were times he's he's willing to update it but that's not he felt that's not his thing but interestingly enough even though he holds that this that's saying it on the B that this is how the looks at the library and this is his goto safer but he's willing to argue on says there are times we argue on and there's at least a few different places and came across and some other places he says after where they have a special he doesn't say anyone could do this in one of the places he says he's you know a special person anyway this all gets into another which we're not going to discuss now which is the famous tumim um which is also heavily discussed in the sugya of manuscripts but the point that I'm trying to and I like this is what I'm concluding is like this and I'll wrap up all the points in in in one minute like in this one minute there's AI the Mish these are Li they're a type of Li they're not necess there's different they that are don't say the reason behind you look at a ofin what is it it's a it's what to do in there's no makis people don't know what we's M there's obviously different levels of Le form there are Le form that take a topic and they could put it into 900 Pages whatever the topic is someone was making fun about GNA be about a few weeks later this was in a farm store was there once literally a few weeks later someone comes in with a saer and every topic has their Leal for as I mentioned holds very important to use them for the information to process to check not you have to know if the person you could rely on him especially in cases where you don't have time to check as they said the story with okay now but then so but but out information not only is the important but for he used even of more contemporary things but then but part of this has to do with tracking down all different information so for the this he held was not his job he didn't want to do it he relied on specific such as the M the and it was more than that he held if it wasn't for them they didn't have it that's it he doesn't have to concern himself whereas as I showed many many different the basic M as far as I'm able to see was we go with these new discoveries as long as we know that these new discoveries are reliable um as best as we're able to in the topic okay I kind is the topic of of this also wraps up the Su of the manuscripts there's much much more to say about you could go down a rabbit hole for another 10 episodes I have we could talk more about the manuscripts another 10 episodes but we have to move onki has many more things to discuss on and M different time we'll get to it wow thank you so much information to comprehend how long does it take you to put this all together I'm embarrassed to say so I can't even I couldn't even say I don't have exact hband but it's it's it's a it's a lot okay so everybody out there greatly appreciate your work thank you very much for sharing we appreciate the sponsor who sponsored anonymously in memory of thank you anybody who has questions comments suggestions dedication opportunities please reach out to myself at schade m.org and or Rabbi br elazer BR gmail.com would you like to pull out a safer to share yeah we'll do very fast to safer um a new safer on the market it's called alas so it's the 40th 40 years ago was the family decided a few months ago I guess maybe even more than that to put out a volume dedicated to explain to all about him all he was a fascinating individual multi subjects all different types of things when you think about from his main which is where he's famous from he's a g his relationship with the G he a relationship with different the rck project that he was very involved with and a bunch of different of his and he was very was crazy he had a m relationship with him so they got different people to write articles um about him their relationships they had with him a very interesting thing about it they had a section of some of the history about him also fascinating um and they also have certain people um some new materials of his that were never published and I think they actually plan on working on at least another volume because it's just such a there's so much to discuss about him so this just came out famous thing about the DAT lines a huge topic that's non-stop being tumbled just this week a different safer came out on the DAT lines and a few weeks ago a different Chua safer came out mosinski family put out a safer and a mass about dat lines so also involved dat lines so they also have to have about the DAT lines but all the many of the different topics that relate that he was involved with they have different people that wrote about it a very interesting safer that just came out and should be arriving in America very soon fascinating did he have a relationship with heran he did but I don't know how um strong it was they he had a relationship but just to understand I'll say this even though maybe some people might be upset at me does not this is this this it's when you're talking about Ander it's apples and oranges if someone wants me to be more they could sponsor an episode we could explain it but rean is in a league of his own compared to Kash it's not it's a whole different thing it's a he's Manning a project so to speak but anyway I'm saying very but it's a big one day you could do probably a bunch of episodes on Revan how many I don't even know I don't even know he's probably one of you know you're talk about your heroes from one generation he's certainly one of your yes I I think basically from my from approximately 10th 11th grade um I started getting into his farm slowly buying each one of his yes incredible he had tremendous impact on me and he constantly does because as I get older I appreciate more and more a lot of different things that he did that at the time I read I didn't appreciate and as time goes on you appreciate more but he has actually nice reviews on the Kasher in his book reviews that I quote all the time but anyway yeah excellent thank you very much