Conversation with All Daf Maggidei Shiur (Part ll)

how important is it to have a connection to a live LaRussa or Magna cheer you need that accountability or it's possible to just be connected to your online share as you're primarily an online market share is just having that connection enough how do you balance those two aspects well I certainly concur that having a personal connection to a Rebbe or tour magne sheer cannot be replaced by the recorded voice or the even videoed appearance of an individual who says a sheer how great the sheer ear is or isn't there's nothing like the Talmud Rebbe connection however in the world that we live in and again you know you spoke about covered 19 so a lot of people if if they would limit their learning to where there's a live Rebbe saying this year and now unfortunately the shoes are closed and you can't have that connection does that mean you shouldn't learn or if you're traveling or if you need to review a Gemara or if you live where there isn't a deaf your miss year or at least that I feel me here at a time that's convenient so instead of using the excuse well I don't have a read be available or doesn't work out so now I'm excused from learning on the contrary no one who will ask the question would say that maybe having the Rebbe alive Rebbe is better than having a virtual Rebbe but having the virtual Rebbe is certainly better than no Rep and if we could take that place and that's fantastic and the reality is this um we give and not only they're also there for people who are reviewing the Gemara which is a wonderful opportunity had to review the Gemara it's certainly there for people who are not learning the Deaf want to go back to Gemara I just met somebody the other day who told me because his son is not in yeshiva is not obviously having the regular learning schedule that they always have so he became his son's backup Rebbe and he was learning tomorrow with his son that they're learning in yeshiva and neither he nor his son really understood the tomorrow so what do they do it was a government secretary Duchenne we're learning my sex the Shabbos but he went to the archives he opened up that - a massage the condition he and a son listened to the shear and now they were able to understand the Gemara so I'm certainly not his sons ready or his Rebbe but it became a wonderful tool haddock you the learning and all times this is there's nothing that can compare to you know in person live where you feel the energy and you can bounce off each other and it's you know it's it's a person-to-person the zoom is definitely a bhatia bad in my opinion although it's the best we have and thank God that we have it and I don't think that you could do the death you know as a as a loner you need a lot of discipline for that and the I'm sure the statistics will tell you that it's much easier the success rate is much greater when you have somebody else in it with you so people are very good motivational self motivational people so people are really good at self motivating other people not so and I found especially with this year specifically as you mentioned that people always want a personal connection no matter how good the shear is no matter how good the my good cheer is people always like a personal connection so if it's with the country stuff is with my good cheer I find it that's a struggle personally connecting with people but I exude it in my voice I try to have people get I try to get people the feeling that I care about them and then I'm always available for people you want to contact me want to call me send a message send an email I'm always available for anyone that wants so for anyone that does want that connection it's there for them the current sure that I'm giving right now is actually to a live Shearer that's was interesting the last the last cycle I gave was just to a computer screen and the joke I have is once it was giving a Sheeran - Abbott own somewhere and we had a very limited time so we had like 30 minutes times like someone saw a scratch it's like way worse I'm used to talking to screen no one has any questions because we had a limited time but actually said the live shall give me now is in Toms River and the robbed there is a caboose of mine old friend remerge to rob burg and he's on his guys he gets them to come to the nemi and that my time is bringing people in and these people are learning it's incredible what they have so definitely having a Rebbe having a kabura definitely is incredible you hear stories of connection definitely brings people in at the same time I will point out there are many people that feel connected just by learning Duffy gaming people feel like the part of the movement people even just in my sure the Delphic time they feel like they're part of something they have their Rebbe even though it's not that connection that way yeah I hear feedback from people all the time like as if you're my reverie like they have that connection it's incredible how you could have that even though it's not necessarily two-way and then you have people that they just get inspired by the words and and they don't need it but for sure it definitely could be critical for many people to have their red beans have that that abusive different people are different some people need like the actual direct pressure I think most people almost everybody needs to feel like they belong to if ever that they belong to a group that's that's doing it but there are people that manage to do that online that they feel like you're part of Italy no questions though though they'll have some some conversations with other people that listen to the same shear though ever since we started with fun with with the zoom for the Deaf because because I haven't been able to give it in person so I have 70 people come to this year in the morning on the zoom you know and sure we always had about 10 people would come and now 70 people are coming to coming from you know from Americans Easter Island from Chicago and from from all over the place so it's Gibraltar got some from from Gibraltar from England every morning on the under zoom so I think people eventually will always reach out meaning people who listen online for a while eventually they'll always want to connect to the person who's teaching this year because you need to feel like you connect to already there are a number of values and they don't always have to overlap we need the need to have a Rebbe is crucial one can't go through life without a connection to a Rebbe I say look how rough one needs to have a feeling of a cry is that something that I have to do and the more devvra that I'm part of the more that I feel that I have to do it meetings somebody's part of a document and shul that's avarice oh I know the other guys getting up at 5:30 in the morning other guys they are and I'm gonna have to be part of it and obviously connection to a mugger cheer is is crucial also that doesn't mean if somebody appreciates a rabbi elephant she Riley would cheer a cheer online and they get feedback on efforts from that well I'm not gonna listen to that because I you know need them you can have the remedy and you can have the cheer and you know if you connect to the remedy by email whatever it is that that's fine but you don't have overlap one shouldn't say I'm gonna do this or I'm gonna do that with values that we could all do I want to listen to the shear that I get the most CNF edge in connection to Torah hey you pee I won't ever Abbey sometimes the Rebbe that I connect to is the one that I had in you achieve and I still connect to him I thought guys the rub of my shul I have a different type of relationship with I answer in Shiloh's - and he's more connected to my family and my kids different leaders of different run him in our lives that that you know we should have doesn't mean it's all one person we should be able to have various different verbatim pictured on pictures in our study on our throughout our house again that's you know everybody has to do Alan the the connection to a Rebbe the connection do know I always say I wrote an article a number of years ago got the rough I never met I never met the rough he was already sick when I went to high school I quote him all the time many of my child was a global chopper to Madras let's have a lot of his his material I learned from his he still made them my herb and my Rob HF Thoreau buddy roses I go by willing it's a major part of our life and many years ago there's a funny story a humorous story that when my daughter's was five or six years old and somebody called thought this was still in Woodmere it somebody called up that is the rub home but you said the rugs on the wall but my father's home so you know that it put me in my place but it also sure you recognize that the Arab am and is the rub and there's others but again that's I never wrote is more a facial Pat Rebbe but it's also crucial to be able to to learn Torah any of them flow meter box Liepaja fakes but learned Torah from the from the people and the sources that you get most most out of it now that would be per the master Chavez and the second seven on the horizon many first-timers especially maybe feeling a bit intimidated how can we keep this up it's getting harder what's gonna be what could you share with them any unique words of inspiration to keep them going and they should strengthen themselves to stay on the dock yeah me train my first recommendation not encouragement recommendation is to be successful and learning the Deaf is you need to learn one - at a time if you're going to look at chess as one long subject that's a daunting impassable task for most people and people will always tell me that I know I'm going to have different distractions that will prevent me from being able to learn the death every day and therefore maybe I shouldn't just start learning the death my attitude and I've said this to many people who have come back to me to thank me for having told us to them don't approach the - that way actually I don't believe we should approach anything in life as using it as one large trunk because then it becomes challenging and it becomes difficult look at a task as one daffy a day if you look at it one day after day then it's much more manageable and then even if you miss a day and it's hard for you to make up that death for whatever reason that shouldn't stop you learn the next stuff if you'll be able hopefully to go back to the daffy you miss and I believe if you take this approach you'll find a way to go back to DAF you missed great and if you didn't get back to that ass it's also alright if you have a mastectomy sector like we're learning I'm stuck the Shabbos so if you only learn 90 percent of a sector you're a lot better off than the person who learn on Adam sector because he said well I won't be able to do a hundred percent so I won't do anything of course my my attitude is that besides learning one that for the day which is I think the way to approach it if you make the death an important part of your lives an important part of that gives you life but an important part of your family's life that doesn't mean that every member of the family should learn the death that's not what I mean what I mean is that this is a death for me family and everybody knows that this is a and your children are connected with your learning and your children and your staff are proud of your learning and encourage your learning and support that learning that is a the way a Jewish family should look every Jewish family should have a real connection to Torah and the fact that we're all connected and that your children are asking you so when is the next scene and when is the big scene my shots that will give you the strength to continue I'm gonna tell you at least about intervene it might be a little overrated now only because we have a lot of these picture books now and that's really the hard part of intervene is trying to get the case when they talking about and we used to have these archaic picture books with you know black lines all over the place that were hard to understand today it's full color you can get the case in one minute so I would tell you it's a lot of over exaggeration it's not as difficult as you think a few things first of all don't give up it's scary we're slo-mo fried called Oh tell us tell me then when the dot that's been particularly difficult he would say it's not harder it's just different it's different so yes yesterday was different than today's and today's gonna be different tomorrow so yeah you have to wrap your head around new concepts and sometimes the concepts would get more difficult to grasp it doesn't necessarily mean that it's so hard it's just different so have patience tomorrow is going to be something else that's first of all second of all it's very important to try to incentivize yourself sorry second of all it's very important to try to have a way to connect yourself to someone that's gonna give you encouragement so it could be a spouse am i mature or caruso like you mentioned a Rebbe a friend or even a way to incentivize yourself that you just push yourself along so when the going gets tough you have something to push yourself so that when the days when the Daath get easier along the way you'll be able to do it so I'll tell you I'll tell you be good old and to first and then I'm going to show you how you just gave me an alley-oop the good old really is like the Casa Nishal we said in this agresa said you got a plug through and you know everyone knows from the you know the social scientists they talked about today about grit perseverance consistency cosna said you come to a something at your learning you don't really understand it you gotta get in your garb plow through I noticed this myself I'm like I look at my gum I'm like wow like I was like I knew but I didn't know it now it's like yeah of course like I'm like oh I can't believe then I remember this being so hard and I was like yeah I got this so you gotta plow through you got to keep on going through clay-rich in your own learning then you have this area you continue going and you'll see that that's important so definitely the grit and perseverance is important thing for these Bloods are in Shabbos and everyone like we were just doing the blood to your DS Moustakas oh my mind blowing right that has been it's like you got to keep on going now I'll show you how you just gave me a plug for my share for the da I'm because when I was giving the shear on your DS my hogs divine olive in Shaba stuff iron based people said after the shear how could people learn this without the charge without the grafts this is impossible how am I supposed to remember Helen Ellen and then understand that after the hollow Miss Manderly Diaz macaque is in the you DS but you look at the charge which types Mills Freeman you know him incredible goodness how he introduced a visual component to learning the dog and what we're doing this cycle there's not yet on old off but we never learn talks about getting those shoe all that the visual is in this year itself so you see what we're talking about in the shared some women coming to Aaron I'm gonna be very excited to hopefully plug the seen the actual Arab in the shear itself which people joke amigo what do you have next 3d you're gonna be walking into virtual like took itself like what are you talking about but definitely that would be something that I'm very excited about for these LEDs in it to just have that visual it adds a whole new dimension to make it a little bit more more understanding and comprehensive I think people are hitting this rut right now where it's not as exciting the momentum from the CMS ass is waning a little bit but I would recommend is that try to find each day or at least at least every other day a point in the doc even getting half the hold of a point in the dot fakes take home with you I think it's up to the baggage here to really is create that moment meaning if you're giving a shear and you know that when you're looking out at the crowd that 90% of the people do not follow what's going on and they're being mostly nephesh to wake up early in the morning to be able to come to the death and it's very frustrating you have to have a story you have to have a vert something in there that everyone who's there will be able to take something off something about that Tanna that amaura where else they come up in chest what else something something that everybody and and and people who are learning it she try to look for that something if you're not following the chair to say okay I may not get this Duff but I'm gonna get something from this stuff and then you'll never walk away feeling empty um two points one thing is that I don't know if I did say there I I try to be very careful when today's of Gemara coming up I don't want I try not to say this is a heartbeat for this is a don't want to like you know get people have that to be the tih before it starts to have people you know get discouraged in that sense there's more challenging pieces this more involved pieces but again the first step whenever I prepare a cheer in I feel me or any sheer number one is clarity number one if I cry it's of the of the monkey cheer make it clear that's the first step and the clearer something is he is so dose and sometimes might be Jarrett's to go over it a few times or if I'm learning it myself have to read over the arts will if you thought cleaver it is the more I'll be comfortable with it when we see some of it power on their isin we should say we should have run away okay we have the assaut dose of some Avatara then that's it it's just like any other area we have to make sure and so the more we scared of something maybe the more we have to spend more time Kurama momotaro's is the longer than any of those economists any of the Sonoran because all the all the ABCs or the and a lot of Paris's is arch of us have an even charge Bob ministers about that but again we have to make sure that if we see a topic that we're scared of maybe we have to just overcome it we can't be psyched out by it but they're trying to say okay I'm gonna do it they were smarter marine in terms of help it so there's an English say for about number then about a Riven again hey by day step by step the first step is to make it clear the next step is to make it fun an interesting the third step is to what yolks and importing cheetahs are on this table that have to be that have to be mentioned and and go from there but again one should never be it's as part of jaws every Jew is a connection to all a chance that Johanna Rob says every do as a people a cult or Akula though they say this is part of it and we just have to look at it as an opportunity and the more we do it the easier it becomes and the more comfortable not easy the more comfortable it is that we are with the material so we shouldn't be thought about what's going to be and hard it's challenging no just doing focus on one Dolf at a time and again the more kind obviously the the more clarity that could be you know the better so the