Chagigah: Seforim and Peirushim

[Music] and picking up a new say they say we have our work cut out for us we want to add something new we're going to have a separate discussion hashem on elliot gutmacher people have been asking you know believer runs through sfarim and different mahabrasis for him they want to hear some more about the mahabraim so eliezer suggested that from a cyclist let's try something new we'll be having a separate discussion underbelly gutmacher who has a lot of hiddushim on but let's begin with the itself i know we talked a lot about katan is there any reason not to learn where katan now people are looking for segulas anything to discuss about learning in that realm and that sphere of discussion yeah so it's very interesting that this will start to drop backwards here is that there's a fikayam which later on tonight maybe we'll get into talking a drop about it but rafikiyam at the end of his safer volume two he says you should there's an indian goggle to learn every regal why because we're not zaika to be making befayao which is one of the happens to be one of the parts of massachusetts going earlier afiqah dies in the holocaust going back a little earlier it's the sheila maisha was naive on the art sites to learn it he describes such a thing now someone want there's a safer it's wants to connect it to something else which is interesting about massachusetts a lot of people might have heard this story in different versions okay so what's the story the story is um we'll say the story in one version okay there's a safer minority samar that brings down a story there was a there was a talmud that he was naive he learned again and again until he knew it he knew it incredible and he didn't know any it seems he didn't know any other massages he died he was alone in the house so um it seems a woman came and she started crying to get attention that people should be aware that this guy died and and in short they were very disgusted just the way the story goes is the khasid and he you should get a proper kuro with covet and he got uh et cetera and it's the way this story is brought down in this amar is that this was and this this woman so to speak was miserable because of this thing that he learned um all the time i mean he mastered me okay now this story um um there was a year that ripped his nifter um a year or two ago and he traced basically something like um originally 10 and 14 and it seems as he traced this to 14 or 17 different sources about it okay it seems to be was a known messiah because it's in all different types of farm that people read and heard now more recently earlier this week actually a good friend of mine uh rabia vistro style he publishes from time to time in online journal i guess you could call it where he prints an article or two called schoola and in issue number 25. if you want a copy of this you could email me and i could send you the article he wrote a 20 page article about this story where he added nine more versions to this story now in one of these stories it says that they did not that wasn't learned and that's the whole kiddish of this point that this was being mahader and he's learning it and then he was like to this thing okay but it's not clear if really that's what's really going on some people might some people seem to understand that that's what's going on okay but as in may the safe see them that we spent a lot of time on in the when we're talking about massachusetts and one of the things he says is that they didn't learn um they were nervous about learning the myself aspects which are found we're in bays so it could be that that also has what to do with it hashem throughout the presentation today we'll see if they actually did learn how if it was learned or not um but basically that is the you know in a nutshell that's the story without going through all the 25 different sources and all the differences excellent okay so your email address will say now save them at the end is eliezer brought gmail.com [Music] suggestions he loves getting emails um and he sends out fascinating material every jumptip just get on that email list um you won't have any uh regrets okay um also just to mention um many people are familiar with the portal daf yomi portal and eric cesaro he sends out different material and he sent out actually a link to a song that was made about this story by an israeli singer um i forget his name now i think a baron roselle or aaron rozelle um quite a few years ago a song about this story so interesting um okay so let's move on to the itself um the last couple times we discussed rashi time is rashim katan is rashii khaliga is that settled or what to discuss about that as well so interesting is it seems pretty much as far as i'm able to tell rashi and is rashi however i mentioned in the past that on some of the massachusetts rosh hashanah i spoke at in sukkah that there's a critical edition based on all the manuscripts of the rashi so a project was began by a rabbi pick many years ago he printed some samples where he shows through tracing the different manuscripts that it makes a difference i mean he's even in this article that he one article that he printed about it he shows that it does make a difference um depending on the manuscripts these measures of different questions that um farsham have on rashi and a few years ago um almost 10 years ago a fellow put a fellow swell green bound put out a small country's hardcover called the uk and this is he checked up a lot of the manuscripts that exist out there and early prints and he wrote he printed the ones that he felt might make a difference through miyashev he has aris about them and he also has harris from rip shawl alter the famous of in recent time with um inger so that that's a tool that exists on rashi current tool okay separate conversation shell out there of gair um okay let's move on to the reshine name so people have been learning people hey yiddin i've been learning mozart's throughout the generations what can we say about the reshare name so interesting i've quoted already in the past a few times has a list every masecto which we shown him he saw because he traveled everywhere and he saw many manuscripts that only were printed in much later on um so he doesn't have any listing okay la maisa so he said rashi there's rashi tysus you open up your tyson there's tysis in the 1880s we get on the side of the villeneus they have been a canaano rabbinical is a thorough perish on the homosexual which is a very significant thing because as about to say there's not too many other riches now in recent in recent um editions of the vakshal shaas they had a friend of mine rabbi yosef dubovic he worked on putting out uh rechecking the manuscripts with romaine canado and in the recent editions of the vaccial shasta they have on the side a better with some tikkunim of rabbinical anyway as far as other rishing so our generation this is going on much past the 1880s so we have rabbina ramana many people ask me why i don't mention the bloody rishing they're amazing obviously at the different times they'll speak about the more barricades but there is a few pages of above on the meri is printed in 1928 and then there's a rima lunil which also was only a very recent relatively recent discovery okay going backwards we mentioned on in other massachusetts there's a tysys rid and that is printed in 1861 we'll return to who prints it a little bit shortly now in our generation besides these things where i mean our generation even um very very recent there is printed numerous russian and samashreyanam also we've discussed one or two of them in the past so on what paper was found they printed a texas rush on twice this rush for is an amazing tool when one learns tysis because even a few different words could be meshana and help you understand what isis is saying and sometimes it could be a different turrets okay so they printed this with hundreds of footnotes in depth so that alone is a good tool to learn they also added in the back amongst other things amazing region on shas which it's his own discussion what the story behind the safer is but they put they put the piece they plan on putting out a better addition than what exists more complete edition so they put pulled out all the pieces of he's the rabbi they're a calf they pulled out all the pieces related to kharika and it's in the back of this safer so pretty much that's the story in a nutshell of the rashinum so it's not there's not all that many so it would sound like that they didn't really learn um [Music] not now not necessarily any stories or anything behind it they didn't learn it now why not the obvious answer is because of what the music is about they open up to me the me which i mentioned printed only 1928 but he mentions their agav he says they learned to win after magilla which is very strange we we mentioned last time this might on the end of of uh me so then that's how they'll say there goes indafiyami but what about not is there any other makira so it seems that for some people my cotton was the last massachusetts learned in the seder and if you look in different safari when you're looking for for perusian a lot of times you'll see it's going to be printed in different places might be the last parashat on my et cetera et cetera anyway the miri says they learned to write after megillah which throws off other different fashbinas and he he breaks down the massacre very very neatly um and he says the beginning of the masekta it's basically three parts the first part is about uh [Music] whatever that goes whatever that includes then there's induction which we'll discuss a little bit more about shortly about the agata section in the musafta and then and he just got he in his introduction to he discusses this a little bit more um at length okay um the bottom line is if you look in the times that we shine him that's what's going on that's the story i'm pretty simple um sweet as some people might say short and sweet okay okay so you want to head straight to the chronium what would you like to do yeah so yeah so we'll discuss very briefly the the um the cranium okay so first we've mentioned again when you go through and you're looking the maser and doesn't look too good there's not that many swarm written on the big i i would pinpoint to say that the big the big map becomes in 1781 when the tory evan from the shagasari which we've discussed already a few times when it comes to print and you could see that anyone who after that period of time every discussion is always beginning with a turi evan okay and he's the key i would say he's the go-to safer um kedarka the kaidus tons of pieces worth breaking your head on many pieces in tory evan on fragile as you learn it okay now in my sector's yuma we spoke about a a safer that made was the mapeka in yuma was the safer syrian but the sir he owned his son prince this safer so it only comes down in 1788 it's a very important shot oriented safer which we focused on in yuma but in in um he also very child oriented whereas in yuma he had we shine him we discussed here he doesn't seem to have any of those things and he also does not deal with that much in depth with that guy mars okay now just to mention and the back of the safer has a massive important countries relating to and just this week mahoney shalayam put out a new addition of the surgery okay but that's the second i guess go to akron on um on the message um okay the but if you so if we continue onwards there's not so much um there's not too many swarm on them okay so what why is this so it seems to be obvious it has to do with the limit of kacham which we focused on a little bit in when we spoke about by yuma that kachim which was not really learned for the most part in most places it's not now where was it learned so it was learned in we mentioned it right a few times in balajin how do you know this material on ganshiga dealing with tory evans in many of the pieces and he has so it seems he gave shira and this goes in line with what we mentioned already last time and just to quote one more source ali aaron valdika safer in the back of his trooper savior the talmud so in the back of his trooper safer he has a whole bunch of discussion and memoirs of relating to the legend and when he learned there and he throws in that they taka learned from the beginning from breakfast till the end and were and even though my cotton i said it's strange that there isn't hadoushim over there but we definitely have a nice amount of material but the muramisa only comes out way long time after the netsif dies okay is there anyone else that's learning this masak on the kachin aspect so first to point out the person that also was one of the people involved in making them learning was so in his he has but more than that people always ask if they want they want to see real terror from so here one could see real tired there's a nice amount of material in the location okay everyone knows that especially today uh half epic always show converse to mishna brewer what's forgotten about is that our khashoggin wrote a safe but by many not all not everyone but also was isaac in dram and kachin and he wrote a beautiful safer only printed after he dies called he also has tons of material which is very important for these for very useful for massage okay for interestingly enough it seems that he did give shiurim on at least parts of her but it's not found in the standard edition of some sort you have to use the fancier edition okay but bottom line is there's not that much happening in um of learning of haniga but there's three just three points to talk about one is that in a lot of times you always try to find the safer or a safer of some akron that he spelled the vector and he and he put a lot of kaioken to toy so there is a yidd recreation maisha reinhold in 1889 he puts out a safer called zacher it seems to be on hebrew it's available on hebrew books almost 300 pages a small print a massive work on all of hagiga more recently mccombe survivor reprinted now interestingly enough this person who is he is a galatian from the city of roy who is related to the sheila mayship he puts out the tysus rid in 1861 and he got up he's involved in it see um he got a hold of the saviad with the major has come from the show meishev to put it out so charlemage um endorsed it and even gives her aris to some of it and he was behind it and it says his name in the cover and he goes and learns more very very safer as i said is very available now i feel that it's we're learning maya and we're we're mentioning a lot of might we we keep on we always say it in like in under our breath is that there's a safer semester so samus deserves credit that he wrote a very important safer on all of um and also kacham again it's a shot oriented safer on the whole but he does not have a lot on the gothic parts okay so that we have to represent the hasidim but i feel this maserto will be able to represent another source of hasidis when i say just that means is that it's written by khasit not that he not that the safer is whatever that means okay who is this safer so there's a safer from one of the early great hasidis israel from the magami kajnuts this safers printed he dies in 1814 he's one of the first generation hasidim i believe and he the safer only comes out much after he dies 1877. what's the dish of this safer so first of all it's a shot safer you say it's not like he wrote ira on the on the second paragraph it's up heavy into shot into marsha and all and to isis and of these things and there's a nice amount of material again it's available on hebrew books very accessible but just to focus a drop about this topic as a tidbit excuse to talk about it is as follows there's discussion especially more in recent years about facili um if we have documentation of hasidim being great people in the areas of allah now what's entirely about the oral traditions that these that many of these dilemmas and everything that's not a question the issue is do they write do we have tara kiburim from them on shas chuvas and the answer is there's very there's much less than on the areas of torah and ash or these type of things now but here we have that that this early one the first generation of hasidim wrote a safer it's also another massachusetts and more than that he was he seemed to have written a lot we have a lot of his material which is also not like a lot of revis which we do not have a lot of their material but more than that which let me use that many years ago there was a convention in about hasidim in general and afterwards the the lectures were printed in a book called sephirah bashed by myself cook one of the shiramore lectures was given by the great rich lemieux of zeven and he talks about he he documented in this lecture all the different not all but a lot of the great early hasidim to show that they were bali okay now here this is a good footnote to that article here we have that he that this the kajangsa magen was also such a person but we know this already from other places especially because he was a very very big expert in the areas of agunus and so much so so so one there's there is a story there's a very thorough article written about this in the there's a bubble of a journal called the first issue of the of the of the journals that came out in the year um 2000 and hold on when does it come out hold on what year is it forget already what year is it it's 15 years ago something like that in this journal and basically the first issue has a barricade and it says in the fact of it's focusing more about agunas so one aguna that talks about is how he was mako because of which obviously that's going to be problematic but he has truvis in certain cases there was a famous dune where he was makel and he wrote a halachic chuva about it and many of the daily including river from zamagolis and a long list quote documented in this article of the daily endorsed it and he was known to be very into the shias of agunus um okay and just to mention once we're talking about it that there is a very useful book very nice book on him from a rabbi rabbinovich um it's available on hebrew books about him okay now that's for the hasidim okay and then just to conclude this section is there is the more recent is this the horus verbal yashev very useful on most of them there's a safer came out from lakewood to heal which is similar to their other ones that they have on tinus and then um two uh we mentioned earlier was a great goggle originally in baranovic he was very good to have a great connection with numerous of the good islam including including the minsk and many others and he wrote the safer which in the shiva world was is one of the i would say four or five classic ukrainian that are on they have he has a few soma and those samanin become very much learned and discussed when it gets up to those suggests i'm not sure if today they still do it but back in the day my day they did and i still remember when i got my afikiyama is very fond of it at that time i actually was learning khagigo and there are two semanim in the seifer relating to stuff in the first paragraph of hagiga and it's it's also available in hebrew books there's a dish there's different editions of it's constantly in print there's of course there's always going to be a better edition with more pieces that they find but anyway yeah just to conclude because this massage that deals with going to the base of migration and all these type of things sorry ali regal so of course there's the question of alilah regal bismarck is any indian that's a its own thing but this is safer there's many swarm but i came across a safer from three four years ago from a yosef shimon presser called tyrus hazard which deals with all these aspects and which a lot of the aspects in the safer relating to kachin but a lot of aspects help are relating from from some of the studios from um okay and rebellion we mentioned in the beginning hashem will focus more about him afterwards okay so when and why was elizabeth learning that was part of it no it wasn't it was i was in camp or shraga camp our shragga part of the one of the league from accused they learned well beautiful okay so we got rushing him across a lot of farm anything specific you want to speak about before we wrap it up yeah so one last section a short section is a galto you mentioned a few times already that mustafa has a nice amount of veganto so here i want to focus on a few things briefly number one is and there we shine him in general when you learn with chinese we see that agata is not really given much of a focus there is a in the in this section so we mentioned earlier deals with a lot of the gemaras and it turns out a friend of mine i mentioned earlier with rebecca his name is josef dubovic so he wrote an unpublished article hopefully we publish soon a massive article where he deals with rabbinachanan versus and this masekto showing different things in that specifically in the galaxy that comes out now how does one want us if one wants to learn a gothic mars and once early purusham purusha montegumara very easy place it's available on hebrew books there's a safer it's a good item it's a item is its own story but as for us today what the important part is it's a collection of a nice amount of material material on the in general a lot of it's agatha related there's pages and pages of material fascinating material if someone wants to learn the union you have some early material about tagalog mars because in the resident there's almost nothing and anyway we mentioned is very little in the reach item okay moving on hashem there is okay then i just mentioned two more sources with agato number one there's a safer current safer called madidam khadashim has written he wrote on he's still alive the author i met him a few times a very nice person lives in the mayasharam area and he put out various farm he also has a few volumes out here what's significant about is approximately 600 more than 600 pages most of it massive work for those people that learned sanhedrin and like the movement goal of style it's similar to it on some level a crazy amount of information he does give credit that barak hashem did something called helped him but he knows that he there's a lot a lot of material you could spend pic there's pages and pages of material on the galata parts and the non-against the parts but more in the galata parts with the mafia you can learn even that during a beautiful safer now just to focus on one more safer and to conclude with this safer someone recently just asked me that uh we're about the firm is about to learn he wants to know where could he find he once heard of art from um the uh of the maggot the vulcan or maggot about the end of this if i could help him find it so i sent him where the piece is that he wanted he said maybe he could speak he wants to know is there any way is there any history about the velcro magnet okay so i said you know what since it's a galaxy we'll just focus on him for for three four minutes anyway the vulcan he dies in the early 1900s he died over the age of 100. he was a maggot in vil in litter in different places in and he was a very hush of a manga very famous and then he makes aliyah at some point towards the end of his life now besides her being a famous maggid and he also wrote a lot even though he was very poor it seems from his writings in general he published a lot now the way i got to heard about the vulcan umaga the first time was a very interesting way is that there is a story brought down in the fair in the pharisee stroll about maisha abenu and this story a lot has been discussed about the story and in the story people discuss someone who made the big tumult in the story that this terrorist israel brings down basically in one sentence the story was is that someone went down and they the face that they drew of the of of maisha they knew they went and brought it back to one of these experts that could read faces and it said this guy is a russian marusha or whatever and he couldn't understand because based on what he was understanding why he was hearing that my sherbet said sadly so anyway this story is brought down by tracy srel and a lot of people wanted to take it out to edit it and a lot a lot has been written about it who was the person who made the first big tumble about it was the velcro remarket he wrote a conscious about it and he wrote to different cadilla about it and such as daddares or schulich disk and they agree with him others didn't weren't so upset about it but that's how i first learned about the welcomer market but it turns out he's very very prolific he wrote a bunch of small countries him even though he's poor somehow he managed to put these out but more than that he's a mogan so he was it's clear what you see in the when you read up about him is that he was he mamish was a mum one of the one of the great mageedam of vilna writes he had a close relationship with him and says it seems that he had uh he had and he prided it and actually vivekananda himself pride himself that he mamish was into a goddamn he understood our god so now what's that yeah the guy is that he went and he wrote a parish on all of that morrison chats and probably he gave my guess is he probably even gave shiron in yankev and it was printed with some of the inactives and it's available on hebrew books a lot of his farm are available in hebrew books some of them are seen to be very rare if one wants to read up about him in yeshua in volume 30 there's an excellent article of his i believe that's also available on on uh hebrew books and supposedly someone's supposed to be putting out all the torah and all the booklets all the rear booklets and everything with vulcan maggot in a safer but it's already a few years it didn't happen but anyway this is a on many of the galaxy mars is this heber of the vilca maga but it's not only on it's on most of shas or wolves a nice amount of material um and it's also it's down to earth material a lot of times like people could write about a guy that's too kabbalistic it's not it's not i would say it's not such kabbalistic uh material and he says about this safer one of his farm he was about to print we'll conclude with this he was very poor and he had a job and he you know he always wanted to print this stuff so that's why it's always mind-boggling some many of them they weren't able to print their stuff but he somehow pulled it off he did print many of his farm and in one of this farm he even writes that there was a great fire the sa the safe run in yank if there was a great fire in the city where he was welcome and he thought he lost it in this fire because it was a major destruction that destroyed most of the city and tons of damage and for a few days he didn't know if the safe was but hashem he didn't find it and immediately he went to print it he wasn't going to take any more chances some of the some of the tools out there for a guy obviously there's a much it's a much greater conversation to discuss i got to but that's well so what was the name of this looking at maggot what was his name his name sorry yes you're right i should say his full name i should say the full name of the savior his full name is aaron the margaret of alchemy okay now his safer is called a 99 sure it's printed in 1878 this is right after the fire and it's 99 sure it's on hebrew books so you could use it very easily excellent okay so as we mentioned we hope to get back to discuss from ellie guttmacher separately once again you can reach rabbi dr eliezer brought at eliezer brought e-l-i-e-z-e-r-b-r-o-t-t at gmail.com with any comments suggestions and just to follow his prolific output of content and um we'll get back together soon thank you very much 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