All Daf Siyum Meseches Pesachim

[Music] so [Music] welcome to the old assemblam although technically not to see him as we're not here with a minion we felt it's important to get together to appreciate and look back at the almost four months we've spent together learning it's sunday the last sunday before pesach a very busy time so we've prepared a short and compact program to share with the audience just to share a quick dra torah in the haggadah we say the haggadah brings down the passage and the question is how does vesa molino translate into bonham wasn't there real ammo limits ryan will avoid this parish why did i got to say that and i saw brought down in the name of islamic he always explained that the word amal is used for something although it's hard and although it takes effort but it's done for something that you have a heisei to we put into our children that's something that we do with joy and that's what they took away from us in mitzrayim so as we celebrate the siemens the toil that we put in whether it's getting up early in the morning or going to sleep late at night that i may lose melos which we're proud of and that's what we're celebrating today we are pleased to share with you two behind-the-scenes presentations generally people are curious what goes on behind the scenes at least i am so we had the opportunity to visit the strites machine mata factory and before the actual tour of the aries center whose rabbinical coordinator at the kafke gave a brief overview of shmura and leshma by machine matzah those are some of the halachic aspects that are relevant to machine matzah and following his presentation will share a highlight reel of our tour you can find the whole tour all six parts of the machine master tour on the oldaf admin website and perhaps for a virtual halloween trip visit the app and the website and you could bring your family on this wonderful halloween trip we'll also share with you a conversation that i had with rabbit sv nusbaam who answers the phones and the emails at the ou kosher consumer hotline thousands of calls and emails pour in before pesach what are the most common questions that he gets and where does he go to answer all these questions join us for this conversation as well when we began we launched a suffering for pay staff campaign almost two thousand people joined us to be meghazik themselves and learn the masekta together we also produced a video series with a video presentation on hagal in a commercial setting besides our visit to the strites matzah factory which you'll see in this presentation we also visited kedem in marlborough new york robert binowitz who's in charge of all wine production at the ou came and spoke about different halakhas relevant to wine at kedem stay tuned to the end of this presentation and we'll be drawing the grand prize winner for the sakim for pesach campaign and now our conversation with rabbi sveenospam okay thank you very much for joining us on thank you so much for having me on your program um we hope that with the seattle ishmael we can address the many many uh hundreds and thousands of requests uh cautious inquiries that we receive from consumers uh during the pesach season and mr shen with seattle will accomplish that so most people here who are watching have certainly embarked on sakura hopefully most of them are going to be finishing tomorrow over the next few days i thought it would be a great opportunity to look into what the ou kosher deals with specifically related to so many of the inanimate series that came up over the last four months and how it comes down practically right before pesach so i guess before we begin a little bit of your background how did you get into this business my background um and i was a magazine i had learned iridaea um in uh many years ago and then my attention was drawn to the opportunity to join the asco for a summer program i figured that would be a beautiful way to complement my limit of eurodaia and see its practical application at that time ravi grossman's attack led the asco u programs it was a beautiful program it was so interesting and so thorough and we really were exposed and able to get in to see um many many different aspects of how the ou deals with kosheros and um the way eurodaia is the guarding force behind all the ou decisions and and factories capturing everything and it was all packed into a three-week course and okay i took the course i went back to being a muggy chair i was in my chair for another few years and then um i remember she's wicked reached out to me though he was looking for someone to answer the hotline and i think the rest is history i took over the hotline um i don't know if the helpline was buzzing the way it is now when i took it over but uh my first thing in thailand was to make every caller feel very comfortable so we went first from 50 calls to 100 calls to 200 now it's canadian or 250 calls a day questions from all over the globe i i can say there's not a day that goes by they don't talk to them last week i spoke to a person a from yid who's living in kurjken or some place in in alaska you speak to people in all these uh different places of the on the globe and sometimes you meet up with a person from the alpha game or person who's in this late 90s who remembered ramay shapiro who remembered learning in in in yeshivas in europe so it's a very very nice experience and um we definitely you know we tap into the uh know how and the place came at the ou to be able to bring answers to all the consumers so you just made the data connection people all over the world including talking to ayud who have a little environment shapiro but what are some of the most common questions let's say for this year pesach 57 81 anything specific people are asking that they need to know about the the most i think number one question uh about pesach i think remains the number one question that's been the number one question for as long as i'm here is the frozen salmon at casco whether it's first time callers or people have been using it people just don't want to go ahead and use something without the oup if they don't get explicit directives from the ou that it's okay to use for peso they need that reassurance i'll even ask you the question three times i say you already have three pieces of fish um so the frozen fish at costco the o.u clears and says that that fish has no comments concern whatsoever and it's acceptable for pesos and that seems to be the number one question the follow-up questions are the nuts the raw nuts that the o.u allows uh from costco or from any other place raw nuts with no additives no preservatives are also fine and acceptable for pesach so now that you've addressed the most common questions i'm sure you you get strange questions as well you know straight the range of questions let me just go through the range for a moment you know we deal with all types of [Music] consumers you have people who are asking questions about basic uh ingredients if people live in areas where it's hard to get the hamish brands and the even the oup brands um they're desperate to get their hands on anything that's acceptable for pesach and you know we accommodate them a lot of times we have to research there may be people who for medicinal reasons need certain products now i'm going to jump ahead to one of the strangest questions i received was this year it was this ps friday a fellow calls up and he asks me if jolly ranchers are cautiously basically you have to get the picture there are about 10 people on hold and he has to know about jolly ranchers i'm saying to myself you really need jolly ranchers for pesach i mean give me a break i didn't say that to him so i said no very politely it's not certified basically i hung up the phone within two or three seconds i don't know how he got back on the phone three minutes later again a jolly rancher's caution for pesach and i said no they're not they're not do you see no ep on the container no not kosher based i hung up very quickly because i have the callers that need my attention a third time and the person he doesn't ask the question now the way he is the first two times he says can i just talk to you for a moment i said sure he says let me explain to you something i suffer from a very very strange illness i'm kind of a medical mystery my body doesn't produce sugar doesn't regulate sugar i have the opposite problem of diabetics i'm always low on sugar but my nutritionists who have been working for me with 22 years he's afflicted by this uh finally realized that whatever the makeup of this candy the jolly rancher um somehow his body absorbs it and it's able to distribute it and it's able to give him the sugar that he needs so i need to know is jolly rancher's hummus dick or just not kosher pepper so i said you're asking a good question and now i appreciate your question i'm so sorry you know for being abrupt before i quickly reached out to the rc's there have been coordinators in charge of that product and at the same time i reached out to rc's who would have parallel products so just in case jolly rancher is not good i can kind of try to guess and see what other products would be my tin would be good for this particular person that contains the same sugar levels and similar makeup etc etc um this takes time um but we reached out and jolly manchester that had flower in it so it was comments it was not acceptable but we found jelly bellies that again for a coilover we were able to work out the halachic issues where would we accept the bittle not metal etc and we were able to be mata uh jelly bellies for him for pesach to meet his medical needs now that's just one story of many um of somebody who we just like you know tried went beyond our responsibility shall we say of just telling you which pace that products or which products are facing acceptable and actually research the product you know another story comes to mind this is i think the second year i was at the ou and again answering lots of questions emails non-stop the phone is buzzing the line is blazing and a guy calls up and he wants to know for certain energy balls caution and peso i said you got to be kidding does it have an oup on it no goodbye there's nothing to talk about the guy calls back again and again and every time i tell the same thing it's not certified what's wrong with it i said look we don't have time it's beyond the scope of the hotline to explain exactly what the nuance is and what the masjid found wrong and why this product does not accept but it's clearly not acceptable i want to know is the comments not comments i said we have hundreds of products that we do except for face up you you seriously need to explain to me why you need this energy bar for pesa and the answer i received i mean i was just an awe and here's what the fellow told me he was the chief chaplain for the israeli air force for the idf chief chaplain for the for the for the uh the idf and um he said our pilots you know they have a sort of video of a pilot dropping off bombs on a mission to enemy territory and the about face they have to make as soon as they deliver the goods and the maneuvers they have to do you talk about 19 20 year olds do you know how much energy it takes for a human being to drop a bomb realizing that he may be eliminating life uh hundreds of street blocks or whatever the mission entails and has to get home safely he says that mission is so draining that immediately after delivering a bomb or whatever they do on enemy territory they have to immediately replenish themselves with some type of recharge of energy a protein bar that will deliver the protein to them that they get their energy back so they can make the flight home so he says our new we have nutritionists work in the army to find the proper products that will help these people at the moment that they most need it and and what will give them the right replenishment and these bars work like a charm so i have to know he said if the comments we'll have to find alternatives but if it's kidneys we will be mastered this even for the ashkenazi pilots because it's because so needless to say we did the research we found out that the main ingredient was like peanuts and uh you know some other kidney-stick ingredients and we were able and we allowed it and we got a very nice thank you note from them that of course was signed with you know lieutenant is lieutenant dan and whatever and they're very appreciative of the obvious work and we help them and we're very proud that we were able to help all types of people um you know this year i've been getting receiving phone calls some some of these phone calls are very very sad because a spouse will call that a husband who's in a hospital where she can't visit but they know he's on some type of feed and they ask the non-jewish nurse to take a picture of the bottle and send them a picture to see if it's cautious so you know get these medicinal questions um a lot of supplement questions and um you know we tell people you know there's no place for homelessness if you need it you have to take it um a lot of them are just kidneys and and we're able to just clear it and say that they use it because they're vital right so it seems like it's much more than just providing information from the stories you're relating it's taking taking it to the next level and really providing that service to quality for all helping people sick helping people that are flying in the air force and need all kinds of help and services to be able to make it through pesach you know the these even i want to say another thing israel we get questions forget about questions we're getting from people hamish people lakewood brooklyn who want to use a bottle fantastic but won't use it for pace after there's no oyu we receive questions from people in the midwest far far removed from the other sky but they won't use the product unless they know it's acceptable for pesach i get so many phone calls people i don't even know where you know oklahoma and alabama all over the country i want to know i'm looking for the rogue peach soap with the ou that my grandmother used to use because for passover i was taught we only use you know i want to share another another ou story once we're on the topic this is i think a beautiful story um a fellow calls up he's in florida he's retired lives in florida and you know just like a little intro i'm very familiar with the ou it's policies i said really how come he says well i was the floor manager at gold's gold swordsman's famous company was owned by the gold company by the gold family for many years now the goals were not religious he says i was the plant manager now it would come pace up time and this is the person voluntarily he's telling me this story he says pace of time though he would come in the mushrik would say okay we need you in order to prepare your factory for pesach a b and c let's say a is eliminate certain ingredients b is wash the machinery and we need to pour boiling water over it and whatever seeds and this is golden shalom would say to the floor manager i want you to do much more than what he asked you i want you to do this and he says what do you mean the oh you didn't even request that of you why are you going so overboard he says that he would say to her i mean mrs gold you're not even that religious and she would say back do you know what passover looked like by my grandparents do you know what face that was like by my grandparents if you would have seen paces by my grandparents you won't be asking me such questions now let me tell you the rest of the story i happen to be a distant cousin of the golds but her grandparents were my grandparents so i told the president of the phone do you know that the gold had a child that because kaiser but you've learned in the mirror in the coil for 15 years it was narrative i've either for the last 40 50 years he said i'm not surprised because of what i saw the way she had that feeling for basa that's just one example i happen to be close to home but we get many such questions from consumers that really really are inspirational amazing so we promised to keep this program short and compact so you just want to wrap up maybe a couple of the inaudible let's let's let's start i guess we'll start from from the current and we'll work our way backwards so first of all of course we get a lot of questions about donald choices because hey you have diabetics people who can't um drink wine they want to know if the grape juice is uh not diluted how diluted um you know the the different wines what it what's added what's not added and just as a rule of thumb everyone should know this that any kedam wine product grape juice always starts of 51 percent wine or grape juice so there's no shiloh about its you know uh uh very preoccupied um the rest is either concentrate depending on how much the sugar levels need to be brought up or loosened um you can be more than 51 so that's you know there are some people want to know reversal not reversal um all these questions you know evolve around the dolcosis so that's that's something that you know you definitely get a lot of clothes on i'll just add in regarding to shiloh that if you go to old off we have up a fascinating series we just filmed with rabbit ribbon with at kedem discussing some of these issues so that's regarding wine what else um then of course we you know moving our way back and of course you know not too many questions about the carbon pace so hopefully i'm always waiting for the you know for those questions that come with this hashem i hope that all you have to be you know buzzing then as well and we start off with people and family coffee base i've lost the common base of where can i get a carbon based like et cetera et cetera um and we move away you know uh let's go back to the earlier program with uh human snakes uh on people who are making bid not to sell comments gamma they want to know which uh flower bali uh oats what's considered hamas government it's not considered and in the oh you uh catalog that we you know our ou beautiful um edition as every year has already available it's available you call the you can get it online if you you could download it at this point um there is a link on our website to order one i don't know if the orders are still going to be processed um and it has a very beautiful um article written by authored by uh rabbi price about when the pedal went to purge uh very very informative and also in terms of capturing because everyone has capturing questions um pages of exactly all your different appliances how you can capture them for a whole nother cola all in this guide all like packed in so it's really uh a wealth of information and we used to have a non-jewish um uh housekeeper who bend us every year to take open a copy just she was just so attracted to it because of the way you know it's nice design and everything but um hundreds of people tell me this have very good use of it you'll have all the products that are acceptable without you know you p you have all the uh customer pesos products and the the nutritional supplements which are also up on our website but over here you have a quick reference to all those products okay so you're pretty much covered and then of course comments questions i'm going away i'm not going away for you if i used to go away my spares got all these different questions i'll be in different parts of the world how to sell my comments and we had one question to see a person sent the lift out show them making aliyah right after yonder but they sent a lift now but they realized that their comments things were sent along with lyft big discussion amongst the place come over here to you so again we have many of these shadows coming up um we have to schedule a special presentation on this okay thank you very much for joining us especially thank you very much for having me um and now a brief overview on shmura and la shmoop by machine maps with rabbi aary center followed by a highlight reel of our visit to the strites machine matzah factory in the 19th century there was a beige of mahleikas about the invent of machine shmur mashinshimura mata rashomo kluger was was amongst the icerim the ice of uh nathanson was among the matirum it's far beyond the scope of this discussion to be able to go what the reshun the acronym argued about but at least some of the places along the line that we spoke about you'll be able to realize what the mahlokas is one ass nuance was the aspect of le shma the rush points out nowhere in shasta does it say that mata has to be has to be baked leshma that didn't we find this dinosaur we find like come out by gittin we find that this is ma the source perhaps initial source is actually rashi the plastic surgeon which rashi says requires that it has to be sharmer both the shame mitzvah and the end from the so there's a possibility that there's a requirement of la shmoop in which then the resign and discuss can something that's been baked by a non-jew shema so the rush brings some go in him that have the opinion that since there is a requirement of the shema bathurst must be baked exclusively by eden then he brings some resigning that say that as long as the yid is watching the mat so he doesn't actually act uh actively have to do the maisa fear we can debate now in a machine are you doing the actual maison fear or are you only being shumer like this sheet of high gun and re-shining the ritual and possibly have even a lower level that it doesn't even have to be la shmoop that as long as you're being chambered the shame the clear aloha the way we pass in one should have mata le shmo that mr murray deals with but the evidence one can be soyment on the other richard but now going back to our earlier question summer from what point you know it's schumer from what point in the process the rush himself owes that it should be shaumar musha felicia he quotes that the meeting in germany and the millionaire mini in france was to be charming and then there are that we see that the rambam and the riff seem to hold that it has to be short once again there's a machete those are mahmoud to do the question is biddy average whether one could be somehow even from either masha salisha or basha he um or trino here many pisces hold that even the re-shining that hole that is um leasha now because the way flower is processed that perhaps you have to do it earlier from the stream because of the way flowers processed nowadays an interesting shot you have to go explore it the mice is this shy of the shema is what created this question fascinating when i push a button and obviously this is a description that we can have the gabriel fill in there gotta be many other things can one create a le shma by a process that one sets in motion from the initial activation of a machine the hazardous of the opinion that as long as the initial pushing of the button is done you create the shma in a motion that is a process that's set in motion by human endeavor is considered the shema as it continues that is clearly those who are for the purposes of the shay mata are being said that's here for debating as to whether or not one actually actively needs the small on the act of the asea or perhaps the machine itself is considered an act of the small by watching by activating and watching the machine [Music] this is a collection of some of the old equipment that was used at rivington some of the equipment there's actually some more inside some of these equipment actually date back to the 1930s and it's good to see the contrast of the old and what we have fortunate to work with today here's where it all begins we're standing outside straits and they have to get the flower into the factory but i right what happens over here after the mesh gear verifies the seals and the paperwork is hooked up to the lines here where it goes into one of two dedicated conventional flower silos which then feed into the bakery okay we just came in from seeing where the flour gets brought into the plant the flour goes into these silos every cent do you want to tell us how long the flour sits in the silos for we're very fortunate because we get very frequent deliveries and our flour moves very quickly so even though we sift all of our flour our flour gets milled and sifted in pennsylvania and gets shipped to us and is used within a day or two pesachmats is just two ingredients flour and water but it's not simple flour and it's not even simple water so here are our two mayamshilano tanks we actually have a third backup in another room these tanks will last us approximately 24 hours so as you can see here this is the feed line for the city water that comes into the plant the water goes through over here and then you have two lines one feeds tank number one and one's feeding tank number two it starts as flour in a bowl here from there it's a clean bowl of course from there it goes into one of our mixers our mixer mixes for about three minutes this mixer is being cleaned as this mixer is working we use a mixer for what happens first as soon as the master comes down they go through here they're cut with a knife and then it's going to go through a series of rollers where the matzah gets thinner and thinner and thinner this is the finishing roller where the matzo is now at exactly the right size so it passes through this roller which cuts it into six different sections and with the speed of the belt one belt is running a little faster than the other it's gonna pull the monster separate the matzah passes through this oven makes its way down into the other side when it exits the oven it's completely baked last part of our process is a final inspection we're looking for anything that could have been missed on the way into the oven or that could have happened in the oven has a bell which will alert the other side if everything has to go into the garbage once the matzo makes its way down here it gets sorted by the picker this is not a cautious issue this is called the schubert machine so the matzo that's not picked up because it's not exactly the right size will make its way onto the final line where it'll go into matzo meal [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] and now announcing our grand prize winner of the pesach series rabbi baruch schlesinger of salford uk you are the grand prize winner [Music] thank you so much for joining us for this serum on myself if you go to the aldaf app and website you could see all the content produced for sakhan for pesach the commercial hagala the visit to the strites machine mats a bakery and the visit to kedem with all the relevant halachas for wine wish you mashat in your learning of massachusetts and followed by misaktus yuma and mr sakta sukha as we get into a whole year of learning messages have a wonderful yanteff [Music] you