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good morning
everyone we have very interesting suya
today and that is the suya
of regarding the necessity for the
performance of
to
the
about a third of the way
down says this
is
that but that's only in the beginning
that they
were but nowadays that they're not we
say that seems to be like because
according to the what difference does it
make if people are
not
that so what difference does it make if
nowadays people are
not because of
this that the is like
because is like abash and not like
r that says that the
changed their mind and they ultimately
decided that the is not like a little
further down on the page gar says in the
beginning
there came first but now that
the comes
first says no they reverted back to
saying
asked are people better
today so said not at all
at all originally they held like they
need ultimately They concluded like the
and
thees says that someone who marries y
for beauty or for marriage or for
something else it's like you're p in
Thea itself
and says the here listen to these
words
it's as if you're living
with and it's close in my eyes to say
the
V
and say it doesn't matter what your
is so
while says no if you're
not if
you're
that
is the ra and the
like
like so now we want to examine um the
following major question on
abash let me bring up the uh Mar
here
all righty
um see what we could
do
um here we go
thean question is like this there is a
mishna you have a gamar my gamar um I'm
just getting my
gamar where where is the
gamarra there's a
mish that says that someone who is
regardless of of living with
the now what does it mean b b means
you're doing it just to because of her
beauty for nothing else as if it would
be so is you're kind her so that Mish
seems to be
like so seems to be excuse me not like
abash cuz it says uh you could marry her
whatever your your intentions are um
irrespective or don't make it don't
matter so we have
aish not
like so the ran
says someone who lives with he's coerced
or he does you should not
be
he lives with her for the
Mitzvah how could say that if you live
with a
woman it's as if you're living with Ana
and the child is a m and the toyra on
the other hand DARS that you're her
regardless
in other words there's
a that
seems that no is needed and that's
against says according
to if you live
with not only is it like living with an
you're
not and the Miss later says you are her
the
says
and therefore if we have a later on not
like basically now we have a mish that
says you're even if
you're so we so the the matter is
concluded that is like from
many that in fact you're kind to
her so is saying that in fact you are
this um the say You' be kind of the
woman the mishna says you're kind of the
woman so clearly the mishna is not like
abash in other words the ran is learning
that ab's requirement that you
your is a Biblical requirement not a
Rabin requirement because if only meant
M it's like
being and it's
if these were
only then the would not be against
because that says you're yes certainly
you're because only
requires is of the opinion that
according to this is a Biblical
requirement let's see the
rvah the RV in the beginning of um
the beginning
of he
says it seems like there's
a he said
earlier and he meant even cuz he didn't
say
he
says you did it and even the evidence no
good means for
beauty
says says the not like the ra that means
even you're
not it could be only
set
when he said it's as if
you're he meant
M and when he
said and say
no
even you're
not this is a more correct way to learn
the Su by the way the ran again learns
that abash cannot be consed with the
Mish because the Mish says that you are
and according to according to you're not
now we have to understand according to
the
ran that in that it's a that you need
to what does
mean it should be you are
being and the Vlad is a why only is it
as if meaning in
the you could say it's as if
you're or
it's but in the
that why is it
only why is it
only said but says it is more correct to
say was only
speaking this is more
correct
why doesn't the the beginning of the
sixth per say the says
that should say this is not
like the Mish could fit into AB because
abash is only
speaking
now this is another interesting thing
what about the if is only talking on a
Rabin level that
it's and
it's then do the
say
says everyone says you shouldn't do it
for Beauty
and the question just
is if you did it
is it like rically considered
your and rically the
vad mean everyone says you shouldn't do
it
even the question though is if you did
do it now so you're that everyone also
agrees with there's this very
small if you did it is there like a
rabbi
infraction then say from the beginning
of the six
par according to the according to the
yeah if some marries a woman because of
beauty what is there none but we're not
talking about marrying we're talking
about
Maring
the the only gave a on the if
you're in other words the same way she
would have children so it's not a
situation of you're not performing theah
of you're
not so why
doesn't say that hold your then it seems
like that
it's why doesn't well I mean the gar
says so so why why is that
also should be M
okay we uh we'll possibly give an
approach for that coming
up there's uh the way rski reads thear
ran and there's the Carano that I didn't
put on the sheet but maybe I'll whip it
out let's see the
M says that which we said if you live
with
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you can't do
it that's why this doesn't say that our
Mish is not
like why don't we say the mishna is not
like here when we say it's for
beauty so how does this fit
into
mean you're not allowed to here we're
talking
about and
what they agree you're not allowed to
but they argue
even in other words agree you're allowed
to everyone agrees if you did it it's
not the question
is you're
being do we say
it's and the child will be a
m so is like the
so now the shil is in the
ran like Ras was asking why if in
according to ran it's
it's why does he
say why it should
be um it it should
be so res
arue the opinion
of holds that it's
like and there's
an the answer is abash is not sure if
he's right
ab's whether you have to be M or you
don't have to
be that's all AB means AB would say if I
would be definitive that this is a I
would say
it's and the thing is I'm not
certain but according to the position
that you need
to
and that's why the ran says that that
which we learned
in that's not
like how could it be it's like you're
living with the and the says
you're and therefore the raan says is
not like
abash let's see if I copied the right
thing
here
no you hear how is learning the ran is
learning the ran that
in the the if there is a requirement
to and it's living with her would be a
and the child would be a m the only
reason AB says
and is because is not sure but if
anybody would be sure of that position
then it would
be and the Vlad would be
a now bear with me one second I'm just
getting the Cara don't go
anywhere
I am back okay the kar does not quite
learn the
ramban like rovski that abash himself is
mic whether you need
to or not mean the the way is learning
the ran it seems that if you would be
definitive about that it would be like
living with
Ana
now I want to share with you a k the
caran and then I'm going to come back to
answer it at the end of the sh the Cara
asks on the
ran according to
abash can a or
do
what's the answer is
yes
he's what
about's
not how's going to deal with that it's a
beish
mishna St
mishna that's one C of the
caran clearly you don't have to have
cavana the caranoa
says
m
the Julio
M have a
m
the way that K
learns and this is going to fit well
into uh
interesting
says that in the world of
abash is the we could do you need to
be or is it that you're not allowed to
be do you need positive mitvah
if so a cuton shouldn't be able to do it
or shouldn't be able to do it or is it
that you don't need kavana you don't
need positive it's just you're not
to you can't have a negative and in that
case we understand why
and and a because they may not have
positive but they're not having negative
kavana
and
so it
says now in the world that you have to
have positive and if
that's so I could understand that I can
understand what the potential is would
beah and if you're not you're not
getting the Mitzvah but if it's that
you're not to have negative maybe the of
is if you're having negative kav when
you're doing the Mitzvah it's a you're
doing an
a that's how the caranoa learns that
having
kavana or is a negative it's a to do
that and because of the of that
a abash says it's like you're living
with Ana and it's as if the child is a m
but you're not living with Anan it's not
the child is not a m and the is not an
it's an of
that the says we don't want you to have
improper kavas here so the also says in
his opinion you don't need positive
kavas you not have
negative okay and he says the is the
proves not like from the if you live
with a
woman you're not I mean if you live with
a woman B you're
and the ran says that doesn't fit who
would say if you live with a woman
you're
not why didn't ran bring a explicitly
that a
is so that doesn't fit into why does ran
have to bring that from you're to prove
that is not like AB why
bring her proof against from
and would agree your because you're not
having negative it's only would disagree
about he would say you're not because
that's
negative look he
says that according
to
that according to if you're he
brings from
the he doesn't prove anything
from and even though the ra
writes must be even according to it's
okay because you're not having negative
kavana now even in the
world that you don't have to have
positive kavana you don't have to have
negative kavan you could still learn two
ways you could potentially learn like
the ramban the way rski learns ran that
if you have
negative you're
not and it doesn't push off the and it's
an the and the reason why
says not sure but the K doesn't learn
that way he learns negative kavana is a
separate is it's an a to do for is not
but it's not the is removed and there's
NOA
here um I want to show you oh I I left
out an important my and that is the
B the bmu one of the
he's not happy with the
ran the ran again says that is wrong
because we have a mishna later on not
like
him the B wants to say that even if you
say that you need to
be would still say
you're the feels that it's not
irreconcilable that you could reconcile
the a Biblical requirement to
be with the Mish later on that says that
you're if you live
with
you're this is going I'm sorry this for
whatever reason didn't make it on the
sheet um if you have an Evar handy It's
s when the says if you live with
a
you're says
the even those
that like who says that if
yeah even
though
why
now is going say that he holds it
only
therefore because there's no okay so so
far we we haven't heard the
Whopper is saying that of course in the
world of you'll be because he learns
holds its only reab requirement but now
the takes it to the
extreme you could still argue
even if the requirement
to you're still kind of
her now that's a Whopper how could such
a thing
be that even though even if you have to
having you're still kind to
her so based on what we learned we
should have an answer the answer is
possibly like the
Kara
that you don't have to have positive
kavana you just can't have negative
kavana and the is of negative kavana
it's in the T there's a new is in the
Tyra
called you're not allowed to live with
the Y for ulterior motives
it the Mitzvah is not hinged on it in
other words if you did it you're going
to be the Mitzvah it's just to do to
live with her shame
or that might be a potential way to
understand the
B
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now I'm sort of taking an easy way out
here um based on the car that it seems
like the one way to learn this Su is
that AB has like a
outside superimposed requirement that
you're that not that you have to but
you're not allowed to be M for an
ulterior motive and that's a ver but
there are those who learn the ramban
that if you're M negatively you're not M
the
mitvah
and still learns you could be kind her
and that's sort of where some of the
russas go um is there room to
say that even if you're not M the
Mitzvah you're still
not
and you're still kind her meaning does
the Kenyon of the I is that hinged on
the Fulfillment of the
Mitzvah or are they sort of separate
can a Kenyon transpire without the
Fulfillment of a
Mitzvah okay RAB that's what I got for
you
today um wishing everyone a great day
thanks for
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me D me thanks for tuning in have a
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