CHAZARAH - Zevachim Daf 85 | "Nothing but the Daf" with R' Eli Stefansky

[music] GOOD MORNING says the where are we holding two lines from the bottom we had a whole list of things that go onto the if they go they shouldn't go on the misb they're all possible but if they go on they don't come off and then review the but there's a list of three things if they go on we got to take them off if so what if somebody's an animal inside the mikdash and then at night and that's something that's very very little if any because if it had some if it had some sort of connection to kim if it goes on the mak it wouldn't come off and then this guy goes and then he takes it and puts it on misb So here's the let's just see the we're talking about bring he didn't bring it into the BD you get for bringing a carbon outside of the B mikdash. So you an animal not you you but him sheed an animal inside the mdash brought the animal outside onto his he gets carus why he says as far the the act of the shouldn't be worse than somebody that outside of the md outside mdash it's also it's it's not there's no douche over there and if you put it on m outside even though you shoved it outside of so certainly if you put it inside if you shoved it inside shouldn't be worse. The problem is it seems like it is worse from the case of a bird. What's means he did a big boo boo over here instead of doing malik he did he did a bird inside mdash and then he takes it and he brings it on top of him potter. So you see you are potter even though you did the inside mdash. Now just to to to finish off the question, you see that if you did check outside of the and then you put it on what do you see that actually is less it's not it is worse than the outside because if you the bird outside you put on your but if you bring outside you potter so what's that if you an animal at And then you bring it outside by a bird. How you don't say the sh the bird inside there shouldn't be any worse than if you also inside bring it out. It's a good but says but if you really want to you can make a nice you know it's very different if you the bird inside the md and outside if you shift the bird inside you're actually killing it you're murdering it you're not shing it so says rashi cloud there's no concept of a bird inside the mdish at all. There is no such thing in the mid. So then but but at night also there's no such thing as shifting an animal in the mdish at night says there is a concept of when it's not in the mdash. So there is a concept of shing a bird when it's not in the mid. So what does Rashi say? Perhaps Rash is trying to say like a a nice nice maybe maybe a lumpish verb over here. that at night in the B mikdash is not a problem in the problem is that there's no avoid in the B mikdash it's not a it's not a bad the fact is you see works at night all over the world the the are open all night long but of a bird in it itself is a bad thing it it kills the bird it's considered of the bird the fact that there's outside doesn't help Before we start this, I just want to say a quick this. If you only walked away from the shar with this one thing, it's a massive between like a what else? Thank you. Peser. Okay. big big when you kum it's kachum on the spot you the kas it's kach kachum when you sh it none of the kachum turn into kach kachim until you do z when you do z let's go back to kach kach when you sh the kachi kachim the kas it's kach kum on the sp now if you take the blood of the kach kach the kas and you put it on the it actually removes some of the kachum so to speak. It allows the k to eat it. Until then, if the k try tried to eat it, he' be of using something from. So the the allows a human being to benefit from it. The kayach is the exact reverse. It starts off as kachum. There's no when you in other words anybody's allowed to eat from it. But when you do then the im become every kachum has kach kach in it called the imim they only become after the knowing that we go into the and this is things that we learned already so it's easier let me just show you real quickly a new here's a new very very nice here's amim. >> Hold on here because that we're getting there. That's a little bit of the sugim. This is the part of an animal that goes onto this even if it's you have the kidneys, you have the skirt steak, and you have the fat. Those are that's even though it came from a kalum animal. Now if you have a murim that you put onto the before the we said the is what makes it into nevertheless if you put on the mbah without the that's the concept of the bread of the you put it on the the grabs it don't take it off I'll bring you if you have a situation where the blood went straight from the animal onto the floor. The blood spilled on the floor or the blood in the in the went outside of the mikdash. What's the if you brought it onto the >> No, no, no. Any blood blood of of a carbon doesn't matter. Now, we're not talking about that. D of the D that has to do and went outside could be kachum also k doesn't matter. It spilled on the floor. It went outside. You put it onto the it doesn't come off. So makes you can't do with blood that spilled on the floor directly onto the floor. Nevertheless, but if you did put it onto them doesn't come off by that we're talking about you could do this afterwards. the the blood is available to that if no not such a great why maybe we're talking about and not they have before the so if you put kach on the before the of course it doesn't come off the misbeh why because it's inherently kic before the zak maybe It takes off a little bit of that of the of the I don't know what what's the word the sharpness the >> whatever >> not it doesn't take off the what yeah I don't want to say that but the point is that a can start eating it after this says what do you mean it says in our case of pes now we also decided is on the list of so you telling me that the is talking about the and if it's referring to pes is referring to all the kink No, no, no, no, no. I don't know why the says because it says in the but the point is maybe the point is we're talking about only that is after this maybe that's the now I'm thinking now to myself because the sitting before what's the over here anyways wherever we had in the Mishna or the B that brought it says so maybe it's that even so oh the over here is this happened before there was a then you put the pes but it was and we know the first mission of isma throw it in the garbage you ruined it so even though but we can't be talking about other we're only talking about alone and that happens to be a different case before the rest of the mission happened afterwards so now we learned in You bring a live animal on a live sheep onto the get them off. What could be I can infer from this seems like it's only because it's alive. But if it's dead doesn't come off and it doesn't make what kind of dead animal you have over there. Any animal that you it's dead now. Even So, so it seems like if it's alive, imagine a live animal on the Of course take it off. It has four feet, take it off. What do you have to share for? But I can infer from that if it was it already even goes, "No, no, no, no. It's a nice deal but not what you have to say is there are some that come off even some stay on which come off the kum will come off very [snorts] nice but it says before all all means all the live ones come off all the dead ones stay no that the word is referring to the live ones not to the dead ones the dead ones if it's k have to come off but why would I obviously we're talking about the dead ones and make a between k and Why would you tell me that any live animal has to come off? What kind of is that? We're talking about the live ones. Oh, we're talking about a specific type of animal that has a cataract. And if it has a cataract, we're going to be more lenient with it. Why? Because a bird that has a cataract is kosher. So therefore, an animal that has a cataract, if it's on the So, we're talking about live animals. Let's just just to fit it into the words here. We're talking about live animals that have cataracts. And the mission tells us take him off the misb. But I'm talking about a live animal has a cataract because if he has a cataract and he's dead, you don't take him off the misb. I'm talking about a category of cataracts. I'm not talking about all animals. Of course, a regular animal that's healthy, take him off the m saying even a cataract animal. Why? What's going on here? If you take a cataract animal and take him off the misbeh if he's alive, great. Well, not great because if you take him off, you can't bring him back on. Once you take him off, the whole is that if he has a cataract and he's on the bay, then you don't take him off. But don't if you remove him now, you're stuck. You can't put him back on. When it comes to cataracts, that's not a that that we take off. If it go you shouldn't put them on but if it comes if it's on you don't take them off. Very good. Yeah. Right. What do you So you telling me we're talking about an animal that has a cataract. How does it fit into the rest of the is going to answer? Okay. So one one case is like this one case like that. But meanwhile we're talking about a cataract. But what about the even that goes onto the when it's alive? Get them off. If you on top of the It's a funny thing. You're standing there 20 ft. How how tall is it? 10. Yeah. 10 20 feet above ground in front of everybody on a on a platform. Okay. If that's what happened. So you you cut it up into pieces. cut into pieces and you put it onto the and if this animal is possible, how could you cut it up into pieces? It's a meal only it do you cut up only if it's not if it's a puzzle animal. What do you do if you have a plea on top of the and you're not supposed to cut up? What do you do? You take it as is. Toss it into the fire. Hope this is why you're right. When talking about it's alive, talking about a kosher animal, not the puzzle. You're right. The first part of the we're talking about a cataract and that's but maybe we should close the window. It's a big If you were to ask me, I would say no. Why? Why? In front of the whole thousands of have to watch you skinning this animal and chopping it up to pieces. Not so nob. So I didn't I think the is so that holds there's an that holds that you're not supposed to do. Okay. So he doesn't hold like but how does he fit it into the Mishna? How would he argue? How would he say there's no such thing as doing on the if our mission says against him? He's not going to argue with the Mishna. We had a situation where they did it. It was already a kosher animal. It was already a kosher and then it became puzzle. [clears throat] So what? Now we have a big problem that if you're going to take it off, you're not going to be able to bring it back on. We learned three is theap is this carbon. It's a good carbon even for one moment. You should you should skin [snorts] it. And where do you do it? On top of the misb. Why? Because if you take it off to you can't do anything with it and you give the hide to the it says that what how do you do it? You take the kishkas out and you and you soak them and you you rinse them out from all the junk that's in them. So the word lumal is a little interesting here. They the g rashis is different. You can see the gear and rash. You can see it in the side over here if you have aim. So rashi says Once it goes down, it can't come up again. So that's the problem. If you take the kishkus off the mak to rinse, how you going to bring it back on? It's puzzle. And puzzle once it goes off, it doesn't come back on says. What do you want us to do? You should you should put it onto with the waste inside the animal when we had I just remember now when we did the it's coming up very soon in just a few months like less than a half a year we're going to basm do a live demonstration with Rabi Davidid I hope I hope he's able to do it still he's not he's a young guy the famous brown he did it unbelievable So when he opens up that animal, the smell the and he takes out the kishkas. I mean, imagine this animal's been eating grass for for the last 3 days and it's all in there. It's and imagine putting that a sack of waste onto the doesn't doesn't it's not so take it off. As the puzz says here, we got to see the puzz all the time. What? You're going to bring a blind animal as a carbon? A lame a crippled animal. If you if you're going to bring such an animal to your to your mayor of the city, to the to the guy, the ruler, is he going [clears throat] to be happy with this? You're bringing a limping animal. You wouldn't give it to a human being. Do not bring it as as a carbon. You can't bring something like that on the says tomorrow. Why do you have to Why are you rinsing it? Take it off the misb and leave it off the misb. Why are you rinsing it? Throw it in the garbage. It's not It's not good for the Why do you have to rinse it? Says, "I'm rinsing it." What if a didn't know it's flying? Does it make sense? We should rinse it so that if comes late and he doesn't what it is, he might bring it onto his and it should be at least clean. So we should don't clean it and hopefully nobody will take it on. I thought this is unbelievable. This is a carbon that doesn't belong in the it's ple yet it's still it's it has a little in it and that shouldn't be sitting on the ground with all the waste in it like an aa it sounds familiar it is you have the let's show the picture you have theseim and he put them on the before he threw the blood. We know that this is what makes it gives it if it's and we're talking about now and he put it on before now that we know this now it makes a lot of sense. Why are you asking me if they should come up from? Ask me a much better question. What if a cayenne eats from that skirt steak? You buy it benny's people buy it all the time. It's one of the best better steaks. What if you eat a steak before the perhaps I could say that you put it on the it got some it says it has so I put on it's already it's not there's no the took away the 100% it's only that does it not just by putting and placing on his not going to remove the My whole question is only do I need to remove it from the or not because there's no push it and what's the bottom line it does not come off the and you're not on says it the opposite it comes out the same thing but the opposite in other words the question was not on but the question was exactly what we asked how come he didn't ask about that's what he asked did ask that he heard asking it. You're talking about the the parts of the go that if eats it after he but he put it on before the just ask me a simple question. Do I have to take it off? Let's push it. There's the concept called this is the bread of I just want to know is the he said the same thing as we said before first of all if you put the of without it doesn't come off but at the same time there's no we're going into the cataracts said that the only type of that goes on them is doesn't come off. We're talking about a very a low level of mum called a cataract today. It's like not even a mum. No, you're just going for a small little procedure and probably a few minutes later you're already walking around with >> H. Think about it. For 4,000 years more, people walking around the world not seeing because they have cataract. And today like that goes away. Why? Because we see the concept that this is not the biggest M in the world by a bird. Time out. The R the R movement in a bird. If the wing withers away, no leg, you know how to put on the misbeh. But a m of a cataract, you could put on the misb if it's a bird. So an animal, you can't put on the but if you put it on the it doesn't come off. But he says there's one one condition. You made a then it became a balm. What would happen? What would happen if you made it if it was a balm and then you were what would happen? That's right. It becomes it's only because it can't go on the right now. It's not able to go on the mbah. So how could you make something when it's not available right this second? So but you did say it's kadesh. So it'll go towards the upkeep of the mikdash. So therefore it has to be that he made a kadesh then he got a cataract. Now look at this line. I'm going to ask you a question. So, you better know this. There's a I'm not going to say it out loud cuz my wife watches this year. There's a terrible called if because has to be. So, if the is in a it's as if the was there before you made a because it was in a cave beforehand. What does that mean is what does that what does it have to do with he says a cataract is something that goes on doesn't come off but doesn't everybody agree to this why Rika you know why because it goes by the bird says by a bird a cataract is not a problem and you know what by a bird nava is not a problem so since a nave is not a problem by a bird I would think that if oil is na you put it on mak it doesn't have come off. He's comes off. Now we could understand the question. It's beautiful. I mean I I didn't know this. I had to look it up. It says and you look it up. It doesn't have the ability to bea. So the question is could it be nearba? Perhaps an animal that could be nearba meaning a human being was rea is only when it could be rea human being but since a bird doesn't have a zakas at all and that's now we understand I never understood how come there's no community and by comes to because it's very difficult you don't really see it there's nothing to see they look identical just one produces eggs and one produces something else but it's they're they're different the inner organs are different they don't have there's no zap So now I can understand this question very well. Can it be can a human being be revealed? If the animal is not capable of reveal so you can't be reim and therefore was it's a big what if a human being was rea bird a pigeon could you put it on the but at the end of the day a disgusting thing happened to it so you can't put it on the says is a lot of we said it's a cataract it's part of the list so should say oh he's also since since everyone gives us says anything that's kosher by a bird is kosher by you don't take it off by an animal so just like a cataract by a bird is kosher you don't take it off the m so to kosher by a bird and therefore by the animal you don't take it off that is possible otherwise you would have said that you don't take it off we're just going to the a bird this is a whole list of birds Okay. So, it says in this in this here we go. That's the end of the question. It says that a bird that that's nearby and somebody set aside a bird for somebody worshiped a bird for a payment for he bartered a bird for a dog. So, this is super interesting, right? Because >> to is is a is a bird. We just said it doesn't have a zahus and necklace. So you have to understand what it means. But anyways, you can't even check the the cloia or whatever it's called. You can't see what it what's going on. Vanreos is it's both. So Rashi says it's this is an important rash. So Rashi says there's no by a bird or that we don't care about it. me. Dash is asking, "So what if he can't see if it's a Z? We don't care if it's a Za." This is the first time that I know of. And then checked it out and I think he's the one that sent me last night cuz I said I forgot to ask the guys in the >> We always say that there's a Bri, but that's by Andreos when it has both. It's a it's its own thing, but that you don't know. So So open it up and check. And why is it a over here? It says, so remember that in all we have that says not enjoying it. So it says that is possible yet it has the ability that if you eat it, it becomes you become by swallowing it. It says said, "Oh, my father used to take off the bales is no good. Take off." Why? Why is he saying, "Oh, my father did it." What do you mean by that? He's saying it's a lot stronger than when I say the rub actually passing like this that when he took it off, he did it in a way that it wasn't noticeable. He kicked it. He gave it a good kick and it flew off the misb but he didn't actually take it off with his hands the the the guy in the said the person that brought it as as as a second like this there's a concept of don't embarrass somebody if it falls off the just like when it comes on you don't take it off if it comes onto the floor it falls on the floor don't put it back in the so he says that's only when it didn't get singed by the fire. But if it already singed by the fire, you put it back on that the we're going to learn tomorrow that what it says all these things that you can't eat bones and then the the hoofs and the the horns if they're attached to the head to the to the leg, you put it on. But if you separated them, you did like a what is it called? The takes off the I forgot what it's called. He separates the senus. So don't put it under that. They said it's only because it wasn't by the fire. So the says check this out just to make it easy for everybody. [clears throat] The is talking about go on usually just happens to be puzzle. So if it's singed don't take if it's singed you can put it back on. What are you doing? But the safa is talking about things that never go in the m. So it goes like this not safe for culture narration. If it's something that never goes to yet if it's singed you're allowed to put it back. So certainly real meat that goes in the usually if it was singed it goes back up. And the one that says that if it fell off the but it was singed it goes on to was a piece of meat but they never go. So you don't put it back on. Have a wonderful day. [music] >> Merit the of spreading Torah throughout the world. Sponsor Ashir today. mdysponsor.com [music] or sponsor atmop.com.